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12:42 | eythian | cait: https://www.the-american-inter[…]mans-are-reading/ |
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12:52 | ashimema | meeting soon ladies and gents :) |
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12:53 | magnuse | ashimema: in 7 minues? |
12:53 | Slainte Charles_Quain | |
12:53 | ashimema | lol |
12:54 | yup.. | |
12:54 | * ashimema | dashes off to get tea |
12:54 | corilynn | good morning from Alaska! |
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12:55 | ashimema | mornin' cari lynn |
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12:57 | magnuse | hiya corilynn |
13:00 | ashimema | Shall we kick it off then :) |
13:00 | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 14 August 2019 | |
13:00 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 13:00:53 2019 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
13:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
13:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:00 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_14_august_2019' |
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13:01 | Charles_Quain | Hi All |
13:01 | ashimema | #chair cait |
13:01 | huginn` | Current chairs: ashimema cait |
13:01 | ashimema | #topic Introductions |
13:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:01 | ashimema | Please use #info to introduce yourselves |
13:01 | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe | |
13:02 | Charles_Quain | #info Charles Quain Interleaf Technology |
13:02 | jzairo | #info Jessica Zairo, ByWater Solutions |
13:02 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
13:02 | lisettelatah | #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District |
13:03 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
13:03 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
13:04 | ashimema | we'll give people another minute or two.. seem to be trickling in |
13:06 | #topic Announcements | |
13:06 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:06 | ashimema | Hmm, does anyone have any? |
13:06 | thd | Yes. |
13:06 | ashimema | fire away thd |
13:07 | thd | As the agenda is empty I want to announce good progress with migrating the Koha MediaWiki database from Postgres to MySQL. |
13:07 | I have updated the bug report. | |
13:07 | ashimema | oh, excellent |
13:07 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
13:08 | thd | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 |
13:08 | huginn` | Bug 23073: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version |
13:08 | ashimema | #info thd has made good progress with migrating our existing MediaWiki from Postgres to MySQL.. the first step towards upgrading. |
13:08 | thd | I do have one question. |
13:09 | ashimema | #into See bug 23073 for ongoing progress |
13:09 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version |
13:09 | thd | Does anyone know the origin of the anonymized_mwuser table in MediaWiki? |
13:10 | ashimema | not I |
13:11 | is it populated? | |
13:12 | thd | Yes, it is populated. Guessing from the database username owning the table it may have been something created in the first day of starting with MediaWiki after which we started again with a different database username. |
13:13 | ashimema | I think I wouldn't worry too much about it |
13:13 | shall we move on.. anyone else got any announcements? | |
13:14 | thd | I do not intend to worry much about it but it seems t be the only mysterious table for which I do not have a nice MySQL structure to migrate. |
13:14 | lisettelatah | The koha-US conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21. |
13:14 | tcohen | hi |
13:14 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
13:15 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi |
13:15 | ashimema | #info koha-US Conference is next month in Pueblo, CO from September 18-21 |
13:16 | #info Kohacon20 is all set to take place 19th-25th October in Wellington NZ | |
13:16 | #link https://2020.kohacon.org/ Kohacon20 | |
13:17 | They have not yet called for speakers, but should be doing so any day now I believe | |
13:18 | OK.. moving on.. | |
13:18 | #topic Update on releases | |
13:18 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:18 | ashimema | #topic Stable releases |
13:18 | Topic for #koha is now Stable releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:19 | ashimema | #info Fridolin sends his apologies for not making the meeting. 19.05.x series in in reasonable shape, he's keeping up with bugfixes well but we do have a few bugs still making their way through the SO/QA process |
13:20 | rmaints? | |
13:20 | wahanui | well, rmaints is fridolin, lucas and wizzyrea |
13:20 | tcohen | is there a list? |
13:21 | ashimema | only the bugs highlighted in the koha dashboard |
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13:21 | ashimema | 6 'Major' in NSO, 1 in NQA |
13:21 | so not huge numbers.. but there are a fair few 'New' that need looking at | |
13:22 | at least a couple in my own queue.. I best get to writing patches for those | |
13:23 | #topic Update from the RM | |
13:23 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the RM (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:24 | ashimema | #info We are 3 months into the cycle and 2 weeks into a 2 month window for adventurous pushing. |
13:25 | #info 224 Bugs pushed to date, 158 bugfixes, 65 enhancements and 1 new feature. | |
13:25 | #info 10 of the above bugs were Sponsored, thankyou sponsors :) | |
13:26 | I feel dev meetings have been going reasonably well and are a little more inclusive again now we have moved the late slot a little later again to catch the NZ croud. | |
13:27 | Katrin has been doing a great job rounding up the troops for QA as ever, thanks cait | |
13:27 | any questions for the RM ? | |
13:28 | caroline_catlady | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
13:28 | ashimema | could be a nice short meeting today |
13:28 | cait | ashimema: not sure about that... herding cats is hard :) |
13:29 | tcohen | ashimema: I will try to do more QA for the rest of the cycle |
13:29 | ashimema | thanks tcohen :) |
13:30 | he dashboard is telling.. it's the usual suspects doing SO and QA.. | |
13:30 | we certainly notice Joubu's absence too. | |
13:30 | though it's nice to have kidclamp back on QA after his stint as RM :) | |
13:30 | kidclamp | Joubu++ |
13:31 | ashimema | and wizzyrea is storming ahead on the SO stats :) |
13:31 | kidclamp | can we flatter him into returning |
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13:32 | ashimema | okies.. lets move on then |
13:33 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
13:33 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 14 August 2019) | |
13:34 | ashimema | First wednesday of the month as usual... any obvious problems? |
13:34 | ooh.. I'm not around then, heading home from anual leave | |
13:35 | thd | The first week in September is the end of customary academic holidays in many places. |
13:36 | ashimema | mm, perhaps leave it a week to try and catch people once they've actually returned |
13:36 | thd | I have no actual objection to the first week personally. |
13:36 | ashimema | 11th September then? |
13:36 | 2100 UTC | |
13:37 | thd | Is 21 UTC the time with is now catching people in NZ? |
13:37 | cait | 9 am |
13:37 | seems good | |
13:37 | ashimema | 20:30 has been the dev meeting time that we've caught NZ |
13:38 | 21:00 looks like the time we've usually alternated to for NZ for General meetings | |
13:38 | 11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC | |
13:39 | thd | I have generally been confused by directional drift as local time has changed seasonally. |
13:39 | ashimema | speak now if anyone has any problems with that proposal |
13:39 | thd | No problems. |
13:41 | ashimema | UTC 21 is UK 22, NZ 09 and US (new york) 17 |
13:41 | so seems mostly reasonable.. | |
13:41 | done | |
13:41 | #info Next meeting: 11 September 2019, 21:00 UTC | |
13:41 | #endmeeting | |
13:41 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
13:41 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 13:41:56 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
13:41 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-14-13.00.html | |
13:41 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-08-14-13.00.txt | |
13:41 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]14-13.00.log.html | |
13:42 | ashimema | thanks all |
13:44 | tcohen | ashimema++ |
13:45 | * thd | goes back to a little unavoidable screen scraping ugg |
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14:31 | reiveune | ye |
14:31 | bye | |
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14:56 | oleonard | Hi all |
15:02 | caroline_catlady | good mornin oleonard |
15:04 | * cait | waves |
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15:19 | caroline_catlady | Is there a way of making line returns in patron card text fields? I've tried with <br/> (it just prints <br/>) dans \n (the pdf doesn't open) |
15:20 | cait | hm have you checked the context help? |
15:21 | oleonard | I wonder if that's a bug in the text-escaping stuff |
15:21 | cait | it generates pdf |
15:21 | i would have be ton \n | |
15:21 | bet on | |
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15:22 | caroline_catlady | there is nothing in the help nor in the manual |
15:23 | cait | not good |
15:23 | mailing list maybe? | |
15:23 | oleonard | You could invoke the name of chris_n |
15:24 | caroline_catlady | I will check with my devs before to see if they can sport something |
15:24 | *spot | |
15:24 | god I can't type... | |
15:24 | cait | neither can we :) |
15:25 | caroline_catlady | lol, god = cait and she uses the royal we, I love it ;) |
15:25 | oleonard | Your devs could probably sport a nice tweed jacket. That might suit them. |
15:25 | cait | i emant it more globally #koha... but... hm. royal we. |
15:25 | lol | |
15:25 | caroline_catlady | I understood, but I thought it was nicer |
15:25 | cait | yeah :) |
15:25 | we think that too | |
15:26 | caroline_catlady | rofl! |
15:26 | cait | I think kilt |
15:26 | this day had way too many meetings | |
15:27 | not including the #koha one i missed : ( | |
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15:52 | * oleonard | wonders if he had to say chris_n's name 3 times |
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15:55 | cait | oleonard: haven't seen him in a long time |
15:55 | oleonard | No, but every once in a while he'll magically appear when someone mentions labels |
15:56 | cait | labels, label printing, labelling ... |
15:56 | oleonard: oh i saw your comment on one of the bug - the label printer thing on the item table is a pref | |
15:56 | to make it show up | |
15:57 | oleonard | Oh I must have completely missed it when I was looking at the template |
15:57 | * oleonard | thought he checked |
15:57 | cait | i thin it#s this one: SpineLabelShowPrintOnBibDetails |
15:59 | oleonard | Oh yeah, and it should be styled like a button |
16:12 | cait | 23462 is a bit odd too |
16:13 | bug 23462 | |
16:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to delete a patron list |
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16:19 | cait | bye all :) |
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16:44 | caroline_catlady | why does the id of an input field change in the new items form? |
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16:45 | caroline_catlady | input id="tag_952_subfield_g_330576" and when I Ctrl+F5, it becomes tag_952_subfield_g_586648 |
16:48 | oleonard | The inputs get a randomized number attached to their id so that they can be tied to cataloging plugins |
16:48 | ...if I recall correctly... | |
16:49 | caroline_catlady: Are you trying to use the id to apply some JS or CSS? | |
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17:08 | oleonard | Default focus and focus style for hold modal buttons? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15658024645569 |
17:09 | Choosing the default might be going too far. Maybe just focus on the first button on the left. | |
17:09 | (we didn't want 'print' to be the default until we got slip printers) | |
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17:42 | lisettelatah | oleonard: could you set it as a preference so people who wanted to print as default could and others could just confirm? Though with consortium like ours that would still be a problem because not all the branches have printers. |
17:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #143: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/143/ |
17:44 | caroline_catlady | oleonard: yes, I want to auto-fill the replacement cost with the price (952$v with 952$g) |
17:44 | (sorry I was out on luch) | |
17:44 | it works with cardnumber and userid so I though it would work there too | |
17:45 | oleonard | I've got some JS you can use, let me look... |
17:47 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Copy date and price data during item add" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/6878 |
17:52 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #150: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/150/ |
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18:04 | caroline_catlady | oleonard: does your code copy it immediately or just after save? |
18:05 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
18:05 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
18:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #152: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/152/ |
18:06 | caroline_catlady | ah I see it now sorry! :) |
18:09 | and thank you! | |
18:09 | oleonard++ | |
18:26 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #144: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/144/ |
18:32 | Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #151: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/151/ | |
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19:04 | caroline_catlady | TT = T_T |
19:04 | anyone good with TT around? | |
19:04 | Joubu | caroline_catlady: What's the question? :) |
19:05 | caroline_catlady | hi Joubu! I didn't know you were around :) |
19:06 | I'm trying to use conditions to show branches.address2 and branches.address3 in notices only if the library has those filled out | |
19:07 | I'm basing my template on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lkit#Make_choices | |
19:07 | pastebot | "caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "This is my footer" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/6892 |
19:08 | caroline_catlady | ^ this is what I have right now but it doesn't print even if the library has an address2 and address3 |
19:08 | Joubu | use "library" |
19:08 | not "branches" | |
19:08 | oleonard | Can you mix syntaxes like that? TT and the old style? |
19:08 | Joubu | yes you can |
19:08 | caroline_catlady | that's what khall told us |
19:08 | * oleonard | did not know that |
19:08 | Joubu | but you need to pick the right variables |
19:08 | caroline_catlady | ok thanks Joubu, I will try that |
19:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #349: ABORTED in 1 day 8 hr: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/349/ |
19:10 | Joubu | @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it |
19:10 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
19:11 | Joubu | @later tell ashimema Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however |
19:11 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
19:11 | Joubu | erk |
19:11 | @later tell tcohen Jenkin's run #349 was running forever, I aborted it. Jenkin's report may have filled the disk space however | |
19:11 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
19:11 | caroline_catlady | like this? [% IF library.branchaddress2 %] [% library.branchaddress2 %]<br/> [% END %] |
19:11 | Joubu | yes |
19:11 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #350: FAILURE in 1 min 32 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/350/ |
19:11 | caroline_catlady | it doesn't work |
19:12 | maybe it's not branchaddress? | |
19:13 | Joubu | which template are you editing? |
19:13 | caroline_catlady | CHECKOUT |
19:13 | just because it's easy to test :) | |
19:13 | Joubu | ho, it's "branch", sorry |
19:14 | [% branch.branchaddress %] | |
19:14 | caroline_catlady | ok will try that |
19:15 | Joubu | I thought we renamed the variables |
19:16 | caroline_catlady | ooh! It worked for the library with 3 lines! :D Ok trying with a library with just one |
19:17 | yass! Thank you Joubu++ | |
19:17 | so are the variables the same for all notices? | |
19:17 | Joubu | caroline_catlady: to know how to name the variables for the TT syntax you can refer to https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/Letters.pm#L1461 |
19:18 | caroline_catlady | ok thanks! |
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19:26 | oleonard | I guess $hold->set at line 939 of Reserves.pm can't accept a "reservenotes" parameter? |
19:27 | * oleonard | is taking stabs in the dark |
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19:32 | * cait | waves at Joubu, caroline_catlady and oleonard |
19:33 | caroline_catlady | hi! |
19:34 | cait | Joubu: caroline_catlady Josef started a list on the wiki |
19:34 | i will find the link | |
19:34 | Joubu | oleonard: why not? |
19:34 | cait | with the variables |
19:34 | Joubu | hi cait! |
19:34 | cait | hi :) |
19:34 | nice to see you | |
19:34 | just finished cooking - then hopefully another go at the auth_values patches :) | |
19:36 | * cait | is trying to make "Apfelstrudel" |
19:36 | oleonard | Yum |
19:36 | caroline_catlady | yum! |
19:36 | cait | caroline_catlady: the table here should help: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Template_Toolkit |
19:36 | first one ever, so we will see :) | |
19:36 | ok, back to the oven | |
19:37 | * oleonard | wonders if calire had to bake Apfelstrudel to get German citizenship |
19:38 | caroline_catlady | I didn't even know what that table was for, now I understand :) |
19:39 | cait | i still have to learn about TT notices too.. haven't really dived into it yet |
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19:40 | cait | but collecting links so far :) |
19:40 | hi andreashm! | |
19:40 | Joubu: there are some bad bugs around atm, thx for fixing some :) | |
19:40 | andreashm | hi cait |
19:41 | caroline_catlady | I think I will put my footer on the wiki as an example... I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs something like taht |
19:41 | cait | bug 23454 worries me |
19:41 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23454 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fine for the previous overdue may get overwritten by the next one |
19:41 | cait | caroline_catlady++ |
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20:01 | andreashm | cait: that one does look bad |
20:01 | * andreashm | now worries about that one since we are just upgrading to 18.11 (this week) |
20:08 | cait | sorry? |
20:09 | * ashimema | aims to look at that one tomorrow.. need to try and recreate it |
20:10 | * oleonard | was trying to add a note to an in-transit hold, that's why it wasn't working |
20:11 | doesn't even know what hold notes are used for | |
20:14 | andreashm | cait: the bug you just linked to (previous fines being overwritten) |
20:18 | cait | yes? |
20:21 | andreashm | just mentioned it looked bad. =) |
20:21 | cait | it does |
20:21 | glad to see ashimema poppe dup | |
20:21 | because it does worry me too regards our update to 18.11 | |
20:23 | ashimema | I'm struggling to find time for a few bugs at the moment 😔 |
20:23 | But that one is right at the top of the list | |
20:25 | cait | thx |
20:25 | i am trying to keep on top of the worst ones a bit. that are freshly filed | |
20:26 | but not easy right now | |
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20:47 | oleonard | Hi alexbuckley |
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20:48 | oleonard | Hi kathryn |
20:48 | alexbuckley | hi oleonard :) |
20:48 | kathryn | hi oleonard :) |
20:48 | and hi errybody else too :) | |
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20:58 | oleonard | It seems weird to have a heading for "Spine label" but it does add context to the "Print label" button... https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15658162441600 |
20:58 | "Print spine label" is so long | |
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20:59 | cait | worse in german :) |
21:03 | caroline_catlady | could you put "Spine label" on the button and the printer acts as the context "print" ? |
21:05 | maybe it's not best practices not to put a verb on a button, i don't know... | |
21:07 | cait | hm it would not fit with the rest |
21:07 | do we need spine? | |
21:07 | for translating a verb is often helpful | |
21:07 | caroline_catlady | it could be barcode label? |
21:10 | cait | isn't that even longer? |
21:10 | print label? | |
21:10 | oleonard | Yes it could be misinterpreted as barcode label |
21:10 | cait | ah |
21:10 | sorry... getting late here | |
21:15 | oleonard | Perfect: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15658173226729 |
21:16 | cait | lol |
21:16 | caroline_catlady | lol!! love it! |
21:16 | cait | ... on thefly |
21:16 | caroline_catlady | It's probably a literal translation from the german word ;) |
21:16 | cait | we should add that |
21:17 | :P | |
21:52 | oleonard | Yay I finally get to go home! See y'all later! |
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22:34 | caroline_catlady | good night everyone! |
22:38 | kathryn | good night and thanks for you email caroline_catlady :) |
22:38 | *your | |
22:38 | caroline_catlady | no problem! |
22:39 | If you need more info, let me know | |
22:39 | kathryn | I will, hopefully we hear some more school examples, we'll see |
22:40 | caroline_catlady | I know Calyx has a Koha school program, but I'm not sure how it works |
22:41 | https://kohaforschools.com.au | |
22:41 | It may be just a branding things | |
22:43 | kathryn | yes it's a koha service for schools rather than a shared service, am hoping for examples of lots of schools working together in an organised way or shared instance - we'll see! |
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