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| 06:58 | fridolin | hi |
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| 07:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:02 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
| 07:29 | calire | morning |
| 07:34 | cait | morning |
| 07:43 | magnuse | god morgen |
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| 08:28 | mtj | @later tell lukeG: perhaps add a pic to BZ 23408 |
| 08:28 | huginn` | mtj: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:45 | magnuse | bug 23408 |
| 08:45 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23408 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Relatives' checkout table columns are not configured properly |
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| 11:35 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:41 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:41 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:41 | oleonard | Hi calire how are you doing today? |
| 11:42 | calire | oleonard: alright, thanks. Just tired! :) |
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| 11:44 | calire | no longer require an ice pack glued to my face :D |
| 11:44 | oleonard | I didn't get a delivery confirmation on that emergency flan, so... I guess that was a bust. |
| 11:46 | calire | I'll keep an eye on the post ;) |
| 11:46 | kidclamp | I patched it magnuse |
| 11:56 | bug 23407 | |
| 11:57 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23407 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , XSLT Details pages don't use items, we shouldn't pass them |
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| 12:03 | oleonard | kidclamp: I'm glad I googled this issue. I like the "Fancier" solution offered here: https://css-tricks.com/hash-tag-links-padding/ |
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| 12:04 | oleonard | Oh you included that :D |
| 12:04 | Never mind XD | |
| 12:06 | kidclamp | I lnciuded the dirty one |
| 12:06 | we should try the clean one | |
| 12:07 | oleonard | I'm putting it in Bug 23388 |
| 12:07 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Make system preferences links |
| 12:07 | oleonard | Whoops, not that one |
| 12:07 | kidclamp | isn't that the one? |
| 12:07 | oleonard | Bug 23410 |
| 12:07 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23410 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add submenus to system preferences sidebar menu |
| 12:07 | kidclamp | ah putting it on yours :-) |
| 12:08 | oleonard | Or I could add it to yours. That probably makes more sense? |
| 12:09 | * oleonard | has had too much coffee already |
| 12:09 | kidclamp | if you approve of mine :-) |
| 12:09 | it was a thrown together idea | |
| 12:11 | oleonard | I resent the implication that all my thrown together ideas might not be perfect gems. |
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| 12:48 | coriA__ | too much coffee, is that really a thing, oleonard? |
| 12:49 | oleonard | When I feel this much overwhelming love for everyone around me it's definitely too much coffee |
| 12:49 | coriA__ | lol |
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| 12:57 | davidnind | Hi AndyBoze! |
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| 13:00 | cait | alex_a_: I think bug 23409 could be solve nicely with TT filets |
| 13:00 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23409 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , Show borrowernotes and opacnote's lines feeds (staff) |
| 13:00 | cait | filters |
| 13:00 | we have them in a few places now already | |
| 13:01 | davidnind | Hopefully there are enough of us here for the documentation meeting |
| 13:01 | AndyBoze | Hi davidnind. |
| 13:01 | davidnind | We'll get started... |
| 13:02 | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019 | |
| 13:02 | huginn` | Meeting started Thu Aug 1 13:02:03 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 13:02 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 13:02 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_1_august_2019' |
| 13:02 | davidnind | #topic Introductions |
| 13:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 13:02 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 13:03 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 13:03 | AndyBoze | #info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, USA |
| 13:03 | cait | caroline_catlady: ping |
| 13:04 | alex_a_ | cait, nice |
| 13:04 | Thx! | |
| 13:04 | caroline_catlady | hi just got in! |
| 13:04 | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro | |
| 13:04 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 13:04 | caroline_catlady | I always forget that the meeting is earlier now |
| 13:05 | davidnind | Hi caroline_catlady and cait! |
| 13:05 | caroline_catlady | hi davidnind! |
| 13:05 | davidnind | #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_1_August_2019 |
| 13:05 | #topic Action points | |
| 13:05 | Topic for #koha is now Action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 13:05 | davidnind | hi thd! |
| 13:05 | thd | hello |
| 13:05 | wahanui | que tal, thd |
| 13:06 | davidnind | The list seems to get longer! |
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| 13:06 | cait | fridolin: joining the docs meeting? :) |
| 13:07 | davidnind | :) |
| 13:07 | caroline_catlady | way to recruit cait! +1 |
| 13:07 | fridolin | cait: sorry im really under water |
| 13:07 | bloup | |
| 13:07 | davidnind | throws a life raft..(or maybe water wings) |
| 13:08 | Have been having fun over the last few days working through some of the action points, but nothing significant to report | |
| 13:09 | working through the installation guide is going okay, but is a little challenging, so hopefully some updates in the next few days | |
| 13:09 | cait | fridolin: don't drown please! |
| 13:09 | caroline_catlady | me either for git guide... I started a paper and pen draft, but it's just got "git" at the top ^^;; |
| 13:09 | cait | it's a start |
| 13:09 | and you got over the blank paper | |
| 13:10 | I've tried to pick up some small tasks | |
| 13:10 | fridolin | thanks ;) |
| 13:10 | davidnind | cait++ |
| 13:10 | cait | but really small stuff |
| 13:10 | davidnind | rangi always seems to beat me to the doing the merges! |
| 13:11 | AndyBoze | I was looking to work on some easy tasks like capitalization. Having a problem with GitLab, thouhg. Viewer won't start, just get an error. |
| 13:11 | cait | davidnind++ caroline_catlady++ holly++ |
| 13:11 | AndyBoze: i had that too, but clicking edit still worked | |
| 13:11 | even if the view seemed broken | |
| 13:12 | AndyBoze | Gee, didn't think to try that. :-( |
| 13:12 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:12 | caroline_catlady | going back to action points, do we know if the wiki software has been updated? |
| 13:13 | thd | Updating is non-trivial |
| 13:13 | magnuse | <meta name="generator" content="MediaWiki 1.16.2" /> |
| 13:13 | thd | We discussed the issue a little in the general meeting. |
| 13:13 | davidnind | I think I've clicked 'raw' or used the Web IDE |
| 13:14 | cait | i think the conclusion at the meeting was favoring a fresh start |
| 13:14 | with the wiki software to investigate | |
| 13:14 | caroline_catlady | really? |
| 13:14 | wahanui | i think really is good to have josef_moravec back.. always get a boost from seeing a bunch of signoffs :) |
| 13:14 | cait | Equinox still willing to host |
| 13:14 | and davidnind volunteering to do help with planning? | |
| 13:14 | thd | Suggestions were made to possibly start over. The problem is that the existing MediaWiki install uses Postgres. |
| 13:15 | I have started work again to try the following: http://www.winterrodeln.org/tr[…]PostgresqlToMysql | |
| 13:15 | http://www.winterrodeln.org/tr[…]l/pgsqltomysql.py | |
| 13:15 | davidnind | #info Wiki software update bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23073 |
| 13:15 | huginn` | Bug 23073: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmc, NEW , wiki.koha-community.org needs updating to a later version |
| 13:16 | thd | I think we should experiment with options. |
| 13:16 | davidnind | Also, I've haven;t added any notes yet from the general meeting - there was some good discussion |
| 13:17 | thd | The problems with the current WiKi stem largely from the experiment being cut short by business conflict over which the old wiki was shut down and outside community control. |
| 13:17 | * caroline_catlady | should read minutes for meetings she misses -_- |
| 13:18 | davidnind | I'm still keen on using WikiMedia, there are some really nice things in later versions |
| 13:18 | thd | The experiment with Postgres suddenly became the default with no testing. |
| 13:19 | I am setting up a new server to test migration to MySQL when I last had time disk space was less of an issue. | |
| 13:19 | Current Postgres dump size which may be a vervose dump seems to be about 100 GB. | |
| 13:20 | davidnind | that's big! |
| 13:20 | thd++ | |
| 13:20 | thd | I also intend to put up an empty test for faceted use. |
| 13:21 | I had always intended to put forward a specific proposal about transitioning to faceting tagging with SemanticMediaWiki. | |
| 13:21 | SemanticMediaWiki does not work with Postgres. | |
| 13:22 | davidnind | #info Wiki update: test server being setup and starting to work through migration options and issues |
| 13:22 | thd | gmcharlt and I did not know that Postgres did not work with SemanticMediaWiki when we put up the initial MediaWiki test which then suddenly became the default. |
| 13:23 | The big problem with simply updating without migrating to MySQL is that the only migration scripts we have are old like the version of the Wiki. | |
| 13:24 | If we update without migrating then we may be unable to migrate to MySQL for proper functionality later. | |
| 13:25 | cait | I hurt a bit for all the work a migration would mean... setting up a new installation might give us some advantage - a lot of the information on the current wiki is not really well structured and outdated |
| 13:25 | and it seems it woudl avoid a lot of painful work that might still leave us with some issues if not everything works perfectly | |
| 13:25 | thd | Sadly I was a couple of days from testing migration a few years ago when I was a couple of days away from a test. |
| 13:25 | We should test both migration and starting over. | |
| 13:26 | cait | ok |
| 13:26 | caroline_catlady | Does starting over need a test? |
| 13:26 | thd | Yes, much is outdated and everything needs appropriate labelling. |
| 13:26 | Starting over should have a test about how to approach tagging content so that it is findable. | |
| 13:27 | A plan for tagging content was a major issue of the first KohaCon. | |
| 13:28 | The trouble at the time was that almost no wiki content was ever tagged and then it became lost in Dokuwiki. | |
| 13:28 | I have a commitment to marking everything old. | |
| 13:29 | I now have three days a week at a counter with a computer in front of me with time between book buys to do a lot of marking things obsolete. | |
| 13:29 | caroline_catlady | cool! |
| 13:30 | davidnind | Excellent! |
| 13:30 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
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| 13:30 | davidnind | I started work on a structure/plan for the content but haven't got too far yet! There are some nicely organised areas (like the dev manual), but others not so much... |
| 13:30 | I think it is great that we've made a start, even though there are going to be some 'challenges' along the way | |
| 13:30 | thd | We should also not be making wood! I really do understand rangi's retort about the state of the wiki. |
| 13:30 | davidnind | wood? |
| 13:31 | thd | My elderly neighbour for whom I cared for eight years has passed on and now I do not have to devote all my time to her. |
| 13:31 | rangi meant that it was not flexible. | |
| 13:31 | davidnind | aah! |
| 13:31 | thd | Not to interpret for him. |
| 13:32 | Faceting is flexible. | |
| 13:32 | davidnind | Anything else at this stage on the wiki? It's great a start is being made |
| 13:33 | thd | The categories adopted in a hierarchical manner and other things were partly a legacy of the only way to have a browsable list of tagged content in Dokuwiki. |
| 13:33 | MediaWiki is much more flexible in that regard. | |
| 13:33 | I am very behind and very sorry about that. | |
| 13:34 | davidnind | thd++ |
| 13:34 | thd | davidnind: I may need your help or anyone else to test migration or help me with bugs in migration. |
| 13:34 | davidnind | happy to help! |
| 13:35 | cait | me too :) |
| 13:35 | thd | The python script we have to test migration has hard coded variable names. I suppose we can always try to reach out to the author to be sure we have identified the variable names. |
| 13:36 | I have created the testing server on Linode. My own host is much less flexible for scaling up memory or disc space to accommodate 100GB. | |
| 13:37 | If there are problems with current versions of Postgres, MySQL. or Python using the 7 year old migration script and the old Postgres database I intend to go backwards in versions until it works. | |
| 13:39 | While the MediaWiki version is old we have alway kept PHP and the underlying Debian version sufficiently up to date to mitigate against security issues. | |
| 13:39 | davidnind | that sounds laborious and time consuming! |
| 13:40 | #info Wiki update - have kept PHP + Debian OS up-to-date | |
| 13:40 | thd | It may work perfectly at the first attempt. |
| 13:40 | We do not know unless we try to test. | |
| 13:40 | davidnind | that would be great if it does! |
| 13:41 | Thanks thd! | |
| 13:41 | thd | Even if we ultimately choose to archive the old state, I would like to work on the old to put in a much better state than it has devolved into. |
| 13:42 | davidnind | #info Updating existing wiki content or marking as obsolete will help with migration - please help out if you can |
| 13:42 | thd | I started trying to do this two weeks ago when the issue was getting attention again and I had some time but I had lost track of the old equinox servername fo ssh access. |
| 13:44 | davidnind | Is it okay to move on to the next agenda items? I'm conscious of the time.. seems like we are starting to get some some traction on the wiki update, so that is great |
| 13:44 | thd | Looking at the server for the first time in a which gmcharlt really did a very thorough job for automated backup dumps etc. Some things are also under version control. |
| 13:44 | Yes sorry. | |
| 13:45 | gmcharlt | as an aside, my immediate plans on the hosting front are to |
| 13:45 | 1. set up an empty new VM by next week | |
| 13:45 | thd | Again, I am not sorry for helping my neighbour who had no one else but I am sorry that my personal commitments to help people who really need it take away from my other activities. |
| 13:45 | gmcharlt | 2. attempt a trial mediawiki upgrade, mostly for the sake of finding immediate gotchas |
| 13:46 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 13:46 | davidnind | gmcharlt++ |
| 13:46 | thd | gmcharlt did you see the links I posted about the migration script? |
| 13:47 | davidnind | thd++ |
| 13:47 | thd | http://www.winterrodeln.org/tr[…]PostgresqlToMysql |
| 13:47 | http://www.winterrodeln.org/tr[…]l/pgsqltomysql.py | |
| 13:47 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ |
| 13:48 | davidnind | #topic What's been done so far |
| 13:48 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 13:48 | davidnind | Sorry, probably need to cover the rest of the items:-D |
| 13:49 | I've added a quick update on the agenda of changes made to the manual, thank you everyone for the updates! | |
| 13:49 | Only other thing is that we (caroline_catlady + myself) have access to the Koha YouTube channel | |
| 13:50 | Working on getting the Kohacon19 videos up | |
| 13:50 | at some stage we could look at how we could use YouTube for the documentation - short tutorials, etc | |
| 13:51 | hehe :) | |
| 13:52 | you can never have enough cat videos! | |
| 13:52 | anyone else aware of other things being done? | |
| 13:52 | cait | #info caroline_catlady and davidnind have access to the YouTube channel now |
| 13:53 | caroline_catlady | sorry, not here for the moment |
| 13:53 | davidnind | #topic Workflow |
| 13:53 | Topic for #koha is now Workflow (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 13:54 | caroline_catlady | back! |
| 13:55 | davidnind | I've worked through the workflow a couple of times, so have some minor updates to make - may ask some questions about git and the workflow at some stage |
| 13:56 | There is a proposal for the coding guidelines from ashimema about documenting new features | |
| 13:56 | #info DOC2 coding guideline https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nes#Documentation | |
| 13:58 | I don't know enough about it, but it seems like a good idea - new features get documented (or initial draft) by those who worked on it (if I understand that right) | |
| 13:58 | caroline_catlady | I think that was his intention, yes |
| 13:58 | cait | i like it, but it might ned a little active pushing |
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| 13:58 | caroline_catlady | ashimema got his whip out |
| 13:58 | cait | heh |
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| 13:59 | cait | QA will push too of course |
| 13:59 | i think even if we got a textual draft instead of a patch it woudl be helpful | |
| 13:59 | i got a question too - is onw a good moment? | |
| 13:59 | davidnind | having some sort of template for the different types of changes may help as well |
| 14:00 | go ahead cait! | |
| 14:00 | cait | I noticed there is an 'approval' feature on gitlab |
| 14:00 | i treid it out and rangi said it was helpful for him because it helps to decide what is good to push | |
| 14:00 | we haven't made it mandatory, but maybe as a first step if people agree it's helpful we coudl encourage using it? | |
| 14:00 | there is also a thumbs up thing | |
| 14:01 | hm that said i am not sure how gets to see the approve tag, but i think the thumbs up and down are always there | |
| 14:03 | just an idea to throw out | |
| 14:03 | davidnind | It seems worth trying - if I understand it right before something is merged, someone else would have to review and approve the proposed changes? |
| 14:03 | cait | i think pushing the button won#t hurt :) |
| 14:03 | I would not propose to make ti mandatory right now | |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | I like the idea of revewing (just to get typos, for example), but it seems time consuming |
| 14:04 | cait | i mean we could, but with the still low submission rate it might make things slower |
| 14:04 | yeah | |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | We are not a lot of people |
| 14:04 | cait | yep |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | I'm not against it |
| 14:04 | cait | just wanted to see if we'd like to play with it |
| 14:05 | davidnind | seems a good idea to me |
| 14:05 | #info look at using approval process in GitLab before changes are merged, not mandatory at this stage | |
| 14:05 | cait | so people know those feature are there if they want to give a +1 to a merge request pending |
| 14:06 | that was all from me :) | |
| 14:06 | davidnind | it is always a good idea for someone else to have a look if that is possible |
| 14:06 | thanks cait! | |
| 14:07 | I take it everyone is supportive of ashimema's proposal to get some initial documentation written for new features, for teh documentation team to tidy up and incorporate? | |
| 14:08 | caroline_catlady | makes a lot of sense to me |
| 14:08 | the devs know what they code | |
| 14:09 | cait | +1 |
| 14:09 | davidnind | I know it sometimes takes me a while to work out what a bug is supposed to do, so having some initial info to work with would be great! |
| 14:10 | +1 from me as well | |
| 14:10 | #info DOC2 coding guideline: if anyone else has additional ideas or thoughts please add to the talk page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nes#Documentation | |
| 14:11 | #topic Set time for next meeting | |
| 14:11 | Topic for #koha is now Set time for next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 1 August 2019) | |
| 14:11 | davidnind | Jumping right to the end! |
| 14:12 | 6 September 2019 13:00 UTC for the next meeting? | |
| 14:12 | Does anyone know whether earlier or later would work for Kelly? | |
| 14:12 | We can change if needed | |
| 14:13 | caroline_catlady | sept 6 is a friday (here), is that what you were aiming for? |
| 14:13 | I don't mind I'm here all week | |
| 14:13 | davidnind | oops - that should have been the 5th! |
| 14:13 | caroline_catlady | ok! :) |
| 14:14 | davidnind | time zones! |
| 14:14 | #info Next meeting 5 September 2019 13:00 UTC | |
| 14:14 | AndyBoze | Sept 5 works for me. |
| 14:14 | caroline_catlady | works for me too |
| 14:14 | davidnind | Thanks AndyBoze! |
| 14:15 | Will check with Kelly and adjust if needed | |
| 14:15 | cait | btw - great picture on twitter for the meeting advertisement :) |
| 14:16 | * caroline_catlady | is so bad with twitter |
| 14:17 | caroline_catlady | ooh yeah it's nice :) |
| 14:18 | davidnind | Credit to Lisette for that! She came up with the updated banner and a picture for meetings during the Koha Community Day. |
| 14:18 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:18 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 14:18 | huginn` | Meeting ended Thu Aug 1 14:18:26 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:18 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-01-13.02.html | |
| 14:18 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-08-01-13.02.txt | |
| 14:18 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]01-13.02.log.html | |
| 14:18 | davidnind | Thanks everyone! |
| 14:18 | keep on documenting! | |
| 14:19 | AndyBoze left #koha | |
| 14:19 | caroline_catlady | Got a little bit of the git guide done while y'all were dicussing the technicalities of the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tion#Key_concepts |
| 14:20 | still very much a wip | |
| 14:20 | davidnind | nice! |
| 14:22 | Quite like this cheat sheet as a starting point (will see if I can find a licence to see if we can reuse or adapt) https://about.gitlab.com/image[…]t-cheat-sheet.pdf | |
| 14:23 | the diagrams on teh second page were giving me some ideas | |
| 14:23 | caroline_catlady | I like it |
| 14:24 | If we can't reuse it, at least we can put a link in the "other resources" section | |
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| 14:39 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha |
| 14:39 | @seen tcohen | |
| 14:39 | huginn` | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 27 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <tcohen> morning |
| 14:40 | mtompset | tcohen, I'm testing my vagrant resizer under Ubuntu host now. I was developing under Windows to make sure it would work there. |
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| 14:59 | mtompset | shoot... readonly?! |
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| 15:11 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 15:12 | oleonard | kidclamp, you're on a patching tear |
| 15:12 | kidclamp | after two releases I feel like all the bugs are my fault |
| 15:13 | gotta fix them all - the most boring pokemon series | |
| 15:13 | mtompset | tcohen, just need to solve this readonly issue, and I'm good. :) |
| 15:13 | oleonard | kidclamp: Boring to watch, maybe, but I like being in it. |
| 15:13 | mtompset | kidclamp, at least you are enslaving innocent pokemon to make them fight each other. ;) |
| 15:14 | Oops... AREN'T | |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | no no, ash has lots of friends that are pokemon |
| 15:14 | mtompset | But he keeps them in pokeballs instead of free. |
| 15:14 | Pikachu is the only non-slave, really. | |
| 15:17 | kidclamp | it is a troubling concept |
| 15:17 | oh you're 12? time to get out of my house and go it on your own | |
| 15:17 | oleonard | They're like the beast in Restaurant at the End of the Universe which was bred to want to be eaten |
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| 15:18 | caroline_catlady | would make for a nice thesis "Representation of slavery in Pokémon" |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | pokeball technology is pretty awesome. They're bigger on the inside? Or pokemon are all drug fueled figments of imagination? |
| 15:19 | oleonard | All of this is probably well-covered territory on multiple Tumblrs |
| 15:19 | mtompset | oleonard, yes, is that even ethical? There is no way it would ask to NOT be eaten, because of the environment it was raised and bred in. |
| 15:20 | oleonard, probably. | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | If we have a genetic predisposition to NOT want to be eaten, is that unethical? |
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| 15:23 | mtompset | oleonard, this starts sliding towards Paul's argumentation in Romans 9, if you bring in theology. But let's not... I'd rather get my vagrant resizer working for debian boxes properly. :) |
| 15:23 | oleonard | Maybe pokeball technology will help |
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| 15:36 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
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| 15:53 | oleonard | kidclamp still around? |
| 15:53 | * kidclamp | spins |
| 15:53 | oleonard | I've been thinking about alternative solutions to Bug 23388 |
| 15:53 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Make system preferences links |
| 15:53 | oleonard | https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15646746956636 |
| 15:55 | kidclamp | ooh, secret secret |
| 15:55 | I like it | |
| 15:56 | can you click it to go there too? | |
| 15:56 | oleonard | I think we should separate those two aspects: The navigation and the getting of the link |
| 15:57 | So I would propose a separate solution for the navigation aspect... tbd | |
| 15:57 | lukeG | does the icon disappear if the user isnt hovering? |
| 15:58 | oleonard | That's the way I did it lukeG, but it doesn't have to. I think it looks cluttered otherwise |
| 15:58 | kidclamp | The only advantage to the clicking is that it deopsits you in the tab/category so you end up near related prefs, so like you search for one and then get to the area containing, but I like this |
| 15:58 | oleonard++ | |
| 15:59 | oleonard | I'm also guessing the audience of this feature is fairly small |
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| 15:59 | oleonard | kidclamp: Yes, I'd like to come up with another way of linking the user to the related section |
| 15:59 | A more explicitly labeled link | |
| 16:00 | In particular because the link-to-section behavior is really only relevant during search | |
| 16:00 | kidclamp | true |
| 16:00 | oleonard | Sorry kidclamp you got my brain stewing on that one so here I am. |
| 16:02 | kidclamp | hehe, sorry if I burned your productivity |
| 16:02 | oleonard | Ain't I being productive? :D |
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| 17:06 | mtompset | oleonard, no? :P |
| 17:06 | oleonard | Nice |
| 17:10 | mtompset | Yes you are, and that burn wasn't. Sorry. :) |
| 17:18 | oleonard | kidclamp: This toolbar/scrolling problem is 100x harder when dealing with table cells :( |
| 17:18 | No wonder you were so angry with floating toolbars | |
| 17:27 | * mtompset | jokes, "Let's go back to HTML 2.0!" |
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| 17:53 | * mtompset | grumbles that "df -h" doesn't include the size of the superblock. |
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| 21:44 | mtompset | Wow, oleonard was so busy with that problem he didn't say bye. :( |
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