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04:02 | mtompset | kidclamp++ # MY bad, I should have read more on the wiki page for the emulator |
04:03 | kidclamp | mtompset++ |
04:04 | We should always be more verbose in test plans, that is never a bad idea | |
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06:21 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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06:27 | marcelr | and hi bag |
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07:02 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:09 | cait | good morning #koha |
07:16 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
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07:16 | fridolin | hi |
07:16 | wahanui | hello, fridolin |
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08:19 | ashimema | anyone here know where 'account_grp.total' comes from in the members/pay.tt template? |
08:19 | I can't find any reference to account_grp anywhere else | |
08:20 | accross the whole codebase.. | |
08:20 | * ashimema | is wondering if it's a leftover from the past |
08:24 | ashimema | looks like it was introduced with partial payments |
08:24 | hmm | |
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08:47 | cait | ashimema: i think it might be an older display where they grouped rentals etc. together |
08:47 | i am not sure if that still works | |
08:47 | my memory dates around the time of the harley release things | |
08:47 | ashimema | yeah.. it looks like it could be |
08:48 | I don't think it exists at all now and can be removed to clean up the template slightly | |
08:48 | cait | subtotals for different types of fines |
08:48 | the templates are due a clean up | |
08:48 | i lost ttrack... but did we kick out all the notify stuff? | |
08:49 | ashimema | ermm |
08:49 | kick out notify stuff? | |
08:49 | what notify stuff | |
08:49 | cait | sec, i am checking |
08:49 | ashimema | ta |
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08:52 | cait | there used to be a notify table and some odd columns in the payment screens |
08:52 | i think we removed that by now | |
08:52 | it was code left over from the last accoutns rewrite | |
08:53 | ashimema | lol |
08:53 | I see | |
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09:03 | magnuse | wow, i had completely forgotten harley |
09:16 | cait | heh |
09:16 | it alwaysmade me think of motorcycles | |
09:17 | ashimema | lol |
09:18 | that just makes me giggle | |
09:20 | does anyone else find it strange that we list 'credits' on the 'fines and charges' page in the opac? | |
09:21 | cait | i have a ticket open to rneame it |
09:21 | but... accounting doesn't work for patrons i think. | |
09:21 | hm not ticket, bug, my brain is confused this week | |
09:21 | ashimema | and... that even if you've not set to autoapply credits to debts the 'total' at the bottom of the page reads as though all credits are applied |
09:21 | cait | i think it's good to have it all in one table |
09:22 | i think we could show a total and a total with credits applied | |
09:22 | that's what they expect to pay | |
09:22 | ashimema | online payments will pay the first totaly.. not the one which includes credits as if they were applied |
09:23 | so it's rather misleading as it stands | |
09:23 | cait | hm |
09:24 | not sure - we don't show it for the single lines, do we? | |
09:24 | and online payments pays the oldest first? | |
09:24 | ashimema | online payments does indeed pay oldest first |
09:24 | cait | or do we show the credits as applied on the single lines? (maybe a screenshot would help) |
09:25 | ashimema | my point is.. if you've checked to pay all.. the total displayed in the table will not match the amount to pay |
09:25 | cait | woudl you expect to pay the 'rest' (total - credit) or the total and leave the credit as left |
09:26 | ashimema | https://imgur.com/UO6qjKO |
09:27 | so.. the 'Total due' in the table includes all credits as if they've been applied | |
09:27 | but they've not | |
09:27 | so when you select to pay all | |
09:27 | the 'Amount to pay' is significantly more than the 'Total due' | |
09:28 | very confusing for the patron | |
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09:48 | cait | but would you want them to overpay? |
09:50 | ashimema | how can you prevent them from doing so ;) |
09:51 | they can't apply credits to debits themselves yet | |
09:51 | and online payments doesn't allow them to partially pay either | |
09:52 | I'd like to move 'credits with outstanding balances' to the bottom and make them clearly distinct from the rest | |
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10:44 | * kidclamp | waves |
10:45 | ashimema | hi kidclamp |
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11:00 | kidclamp | hi martin! |
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11:07 | ashimema | incoming |
11:08 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 23095: Correctly display circulation rules (0 vs undef) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a90b8786996e6cfe> |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 23093: (bug 22318 follow-up) Use placeholders in query moving OpacNavRight <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]26c4efc7f3be000e0> | |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 22585: (follow-up) Fix additional occurences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b75426e6387c7b4cf> | |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 14794: (follow-up) Add tooltip to filter box <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77cf31882f168384b> | |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 14794: Display JS tooltip whenever dateofbirth is being searched <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9b5d99b714fa1fd7> | |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 22585: remove double-escape for CAS URL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64f0e6cb8038a8524> | |
11:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 16750: Redirect from selectbranchprinter.pl to additem.pl causes software error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35235c81539c333f5> | |
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11:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
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11:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #761: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/761/ |
11:45 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #256: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/256/ | |
11:46 | oleonard | y |
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11:49 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #273: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/273/ |
11:51 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 7890: Highlight required field in MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f8687c5f4c276e04> |
12:03 | News from kohagit: Bug 23065: Rename "New subscription" button when default to current serial <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c12cf0994038186e> | |
12:03 | News from kohagit: Bug 22633: Link barcodes in hold summary in patron account to moredetail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c918ce1a4d177cee0> | |
12:05 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
12:05 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
12:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #99: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/99/ |
12:13 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 21662: (RM follow-up) Final followup corrections to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cdf1d41b6772ad90a> |
12:13 | News from kohagit: Bug 22585: Add Justin Rittenhouse to contributors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75d02ec97a7b815a7> | |
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12:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #762: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/762/ |
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12:35 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #257: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/257/ |
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12:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #274: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/274/ |
12:49 | tcohen | morning all |
12:50 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
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13:03 | cait | morning tcohen :) |
13:03 | tcohen: qa? :) | |
13:10 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
13:10 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
13:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #763: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/763/ |
13:10 | oleonard | Hi tcohen, ashimema, cait |
13:11 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
13:12 | tcohen | morning cait |
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13:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #258: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/258/ |
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13:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #275: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/275/ |
13:39 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 23053: [follow-up] Same changes for UNIMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e274ede4bb883940> |
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14:16 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #764: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/764/ |
14:25 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #276: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/276/ | |
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14:34 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
14:34 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
14:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #259: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/259/ |
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15:49 | liliputech_asu | evening koha :) /me -> leaves |
15:56 | wizzyrea | hi bye |
16:07 | reiveune | bye |
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18:38 | magnuse | \o/ |
18:46 | * cait | waves |
18:53 | magnuse | ~~~ |
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19:18 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
19:18 | @seen Joubu | |
19:18 | huginn` | mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 34 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes |
19:19 | mtompset | @later tell Joubu bug 22941 has an OPAC counter part. |
19:19 | huginn` | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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19:41 | wizzyrea | hi |
19:43 | lisettelatah | hi wizazyrea |
19:43 | me/ can't type today | |
19:44 | Or do irc commands. How's everyone else doing today? | |
19:59 | cait | similar, but worse? :) |
20:00 | rhamby | I've just decided that my fingers want me to appear to be an idiot. |
20:04 | cait | it#s been kind of a long week |
20:05 | lisettelatah | indeed. I am very ready for the weekend. |
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20:09 | * inlibro | eric.begin: is testing IRC through our Mattermost server !! |
20:09 | inlibro | eric.begin: Hello #koha ! |
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20:14 | inlibro | eric.begin: test |
20:14 | cait | hi eric :) |
20:15 | inlibro | eric.begin: Yeah ! It works ;-) |
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20:15 | ashimema | Hello Eric |
20:16 | inlibro | eric.begin: Hello Ashimema ! |
20:18 | * ashimema | looks at mattermost |
20:18 | inlibro | eric.begin: :-) Mattermost replaced the communication we were having via Skype before |
20:18 | eric.begin: :-) Mattermost replaced the communications we were having via Skype before | |
20:20 | eric.begin: hmmm... can see that the IRC bridge have some problem though ! | |
20:20 | ashimema | We switched from Skype to Slack |
20:20 | But I always have Riot (the Matrix client) running to talk to irc | |
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20:26 | inlibro | eric.begin: Slack still hosted by someone else :-) We try to avoid this as much as possible |
20:28 | magnuse | anyone looked at rockat.chat? should be an alternative to slack |
20:28 | sorry, rocket.chat | |
20:29 | inlibro | eric.begin: magnuse : I heard good thing of rocket.chat |
20:29 | magnuse | yay |
20:30 | inlibro | eric.begin: magnuse : are you using it ? |
20:30 | magnuse | we plan to give it a try, but have not had the time yet |
20:32 | * magnuse | uses slack, but feels bad about it |
20:35 | inlibro | eric.begin: I too **have to** use slack too with some other groups :-( |
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20:38 | ashimema | Yeah, I'd rather not be tied to slack |
20:38 | But I also don't personally have the time to try and switch the company to rocket.chat, or mattermost or matrix or whatever... | |
20:38 | So many options.. no idea which one to choose to start with 🙃 | |
20:45 | cait | the most open? :) |
20:46 | inlibro | eric.begin: Rocket.chat and mattermost are open sourced, don't know about matrix |
20:46 | eric.begin: g'night everyone ! | |
20:47 | ashimema | Matrix is also open.. different concept though |
20:48 | cait | Heather++ |
20:48 | she just made me smile .9 | |
20:48 | :) | |
20:48 | ashimema | https://www.slant.co/versus/12[…]termost_vs_matrix |
20:48 | * ashimema | needs to go to bed.. brain is rapidly turning off for the evening. |
20:49 | cait | good night :) |
20:49 | ashimema | Have a good day/evening #koha people |
20:49 | cait | it's already Friday in NZ, we've almost made it |
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21:02 | magnuse | woohoo for having almost made it |
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21:07 | davidnind | for the record - if using koha-testing-docker and you make changes to /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml you need to do flush_memcached and restart_all to get the changes recognised |
21:08 | can now go to work happy, can then test bug 23075 and start on mana section of manual when I get home | |
21:08 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23075 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Incorrect URL should have a meaningful error message |
21:10 | davidnind | ashimema: https://www.coactivate.org/pro[…]edia/slacking-off and https://davelane.nz/why-slack-[…]s-shouldnt-use-it via Dave Lane |
21:12 | ashimema | Looks interesting, bedtime reading.. 😀 |
21:14 | cait | davidnind++ |
21:14 | for so many reasons | |
21:14 | davidnind | :-D |
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