IRC log for #koha, 2019-06-13

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04:02 mtompset kidclamp++ # MY bad, I should have read more on the wiki page for the emulator
04:03 kidclamp mtompset++
04:04 We should always be more verbose in test plans, that is never a bad idea
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06:21 marcelr hi #koha
06:26 calire morning
06:26 marcelr hi calire
06:27 bag evening!
06:27 marcelr and hi bag
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06:36 reiveune hello
06:37 marcelr bonjour reiveune
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06:49 liliputech_asu bonjour :)
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07:02 alex_a bonjour
07:09 cait good morning #koha
07:16 ashimema Mornin' #koha
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07:16 fridolin hi
07:16 wahanui hello, fridolin
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07:39 calire hi marcelr
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08:19 ashimema anyone here know where 'account_grp.total' comes from in the members/pay.tt template?
08:19 I can't find any reference to account_grp anywhere else
08:20 accross the whole codebase..
08:20 * ashimema is wondering if it's a leftover from the past
08:24 ashimema looks like it was introduced with partial payments
08:24 hmm
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08:47 cait ashimema: i think it might be an older display where they grouped rentals etc. together
08:47 i am not sure if that still works
08:47 my memory dates around the time of the harley release things
08:47 ashimema yeah.. it looks like it could be
08:48 I don't think it exists at all now and can be removed to clean up the template slightly
08:48 cait subtotals for different types of fines
08:48 the templates are due a clean up
08:48 i lost ttrack... but did we kick out all the notify stuff?
08:49 ashimema ermm
08:49 kick out notify stuff?
08:49 what notify stuff
08:49 cait sec, i am checking
08:49 ashimema ta
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08:52 cait there used to be a notify table and some odd columns in the payment screens
08:52 i think we removed that by now
08:52 it was code left over from the last accoutns rewrite
08:53 ashimema lol
08:53 I see
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09:03 magnuse wow, i had completely forgotten harley
09:16 cait heh
09:16 it alwaysmade me think of motorcycles
09:17 ashimema lol
09:18 that just makes me giggle
09:20 does anyone else find it strange that we list 'credits' on the 'fines and charges' page in the opac?
09:21 cait i have a ticket open to rneame it
09:21 but... accounting doesn't work for patrons i think.
09:21 hm not ticket, bug, my brain is confused this week
09:21 ashimema and... that even if you've not set to autoapply credits to debts the 'total' at the bottom of the page reads as though all credits are applied
09:21 cait i think it's good to have it all in one table
09:22 i think we could show a total and a total with credits applied
09:22 that's what they expect to pay
09:22 ashimema online payments will pay the first totaly.. not the one which includes credits as if they were applied
09:23 so it's rather misleading as it stands
09:23 cait hm
09:24 not sure - we don't show it for the single lines, do we?
09:24 and online payments pays the oldest first?
09:24 ashimema online payments does indeed pay oldest first
09:24 cait or do we show the credits as applied on the single lines? (maybe a screenshot would help)
09:25 ashimema my point is.. if you've checked to pay all.. the total displayed in the table will not match the amount to pay
09:25 cait woudl you expect to pay the 'rest' (total - credit) or the total and leave the credit as left
09:26 ashimema https://imgur.com/UO6qjKO
09:27 so.. the 'Total due' in the table includes all credits as if they've been applied
09:27 but they've not
09:27 so when you select to pay all
09:27 the 'Amount to pay' is significantly more than the 'Total due'
09:28 very confusing for the patron
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09:48 cait but would you want them to overpay?
09:50 ashimema how can you prevent them from doing so ;)
09:51 they can't apply credits to debits themselves yet
09:51 and online payments doesn't allow them to partially pay either
09:52 I'd like to move 'credits with outstanding balances' to the bottom and make them clearly distinct from the rest
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10:44 * kidclamp waves
10:45 ashimema hi kidclamp
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11:00 kidclamp hi martin!
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11:07 ashimema incoming
11:08 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23095: Correctly display circulation rules (0 vs undef) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a90b8786996e6cfe>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 23093: (bug 22318 follow-up) Use placeholders in query moving OpacNavRight <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]26c4efc7f3be000e0>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 22585: (follow-up) Fix additional occurences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b75426e6387c7b4cf>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 14794: (follow-up) Add tooltip to filter box <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77cf31882f168384b>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 14794: Display JS tooltip whenever dateofbirth is being searched <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9b5d99b714fa1fd7>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 22585: remove double-escape for CAS URL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64f0e6cb8038a8524>
11:08 News from kohagit: Bug 16750: Redirect from selectbranchprinter.pl to additem.pl causes software error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35235c81539c333f5>
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11:32 oleonard Hi all
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11:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #761: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/761/
11:45 Project Koha_Master_U18 build #256: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/256/
11:46 oleonard y
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11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #273: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/273/
11:51 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 7890: Highlight required field in MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f8687c5f4c276e04>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 23065: Rename "New subscription" button when default to current serial <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c12cf0994038186e>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 22633: Link barcodes in hold summary in patron account to moredetail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c918ce1a4d177cee0>
12:05 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
12:05 wahanui Congratulations!
12:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #99: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/99/
12:13 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21662: (RM follow-up) Final followup corrections to history <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cdf1d41b6772ad90a>
12:13 News from kohagit: Bug 22585: Add Justin Rittenhouse to contributors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]75d02ec97a7b815a7>
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12:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #762: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/762/
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12:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #257: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/257/
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12:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #274: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/274/
12:49 tcohen morning all
12:50 ashimema morning tcohen
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13:03 cait morning tcohen :)
13:03 tcohen: qa? :)
13:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:10 wahanui Congratulations!
13:10 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #763: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/763/
13:10 oleonard Hi tcohen, ashimema, cait
13:11 cait hi oleonard :)
13:12 tcohen morning cait
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13:32 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #258: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/258/
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13:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #275: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/275/
13:39 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23053: [follow-up] Same changes for UNIMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e274ede4bb883940>
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14:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #764: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/764/
14:25 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #276: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/276/
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14:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:34 wahanui Congratulations!
14:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #259: FIXED in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/259/
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15:49 liliputech_asu evening koha :) /me -> leaves
15:56 wizzyrea hi bye
16:07 reiveune bye
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18:38 magnuse \o/
18:46 * cait waves
18:53 magnuse ~~~
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19:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
19:18 @seen Joubu
19:18 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 34 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes
19:19 mtompset @later tell Joubu bug 22941 has an OPAC counter part.
19:19 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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19:41 wizzyrea hi
19:43 lisettelatah hi wizazyrea
19:43 me/ can't type today
19:44 Or do irc commands. How's everyone else doing today?
19:59 cait similar, but worse? :)
20:00 rhamby I've just decided that my fingers want me to appear to be an idiot.
20:04 cait it#s been kind of a long week
20:05 lisettelatah indeed. I am very ready for the weekend.
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20:09 * inlibro eric.begin: is testing IRC through our Mattermost server !!
20:09 inlibro eric.begin: Hello #koha !
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20:14 inlibro eric.begin: test
20:14 cait hi eric :)
20:15 inlibro eric.begin: Yeah !  It works ;-)
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20:15 ashimema Hello Eric
20:16 inlibro eric.begin: Hello Ashimema !
20:18 * ashimema looks at mattermost
20:18 inlibro eric.begin: :-)  Mattermost replaced the communication we were having via Skype before
20:18 eric.begin: :-)  Mattermost replaced the communications we were having via Skype before
20:20 eric.begin: hmmm... can see that the IRC bridge have some problem though !
20:20 ashimema We switched from Skype to Slack
20:20 But I always have Riot (the Matrix client) running to talk to irc
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20:26 inlibro eric.begin: Slack still hosted by someone else :-)  We try to avoid this as much as possible
20:28 magnuse anyone looked at rockat.chat? should be an alternative to slack
20:28 sorry, rocket.chat
20:29 inlibro eric.begin: magnuse : I heard good thing of rocket.chat
20:29 magnuse yay
20:30 inlibro eric.begin: magnuse : are you using it ?
20:30 magnuse we plan to give it a try, but have not had the time yet
20:32 * magnuse uses slack, but feels bad about it
20:35 inlibro eric.begin: I too **have to** use slack too with some other groups :-(
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20:38 ashimema Yeah, I'd rather not be tied to slack
20:38 But I also don't personally have the time to try and switch the company to rocket.chat, or mattermost or matrix or whatever...
20:38 So many options.. no idea which one to choose to start with 🙃
20:45 cait the most open? :)
20:46 inlibro eric.begin: Rocket.chat and mattermost are open sourced, don't know about matrix
20:46 eric.begin: g'night everyone !
20:47 ashimema Matrix is also open.. different concept though
20:48 cait Heather++
20:48 she just made me smile .9
20:48 :)
20:48 ashimema https://www.slant.co/versus/12[…]termost_vs_matrix
20:48 * ashimema needs to go to bed.. brain is rapidly turning off for the evening.
20:49 cait good night :)
20:49 ashimema Have a good day/evening #koha people
20:49 cait it's already Friday in NZ, we've almost made it
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21:02 magnuse woohoo for having almost made it
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21:07 davidnind for the record - if using koha-testing-docker and you make changes to /etc/koha/sites/kohadev/koha-conf.xml  you need to do flush_memcached and restart_all to get the changes recognised
21:08 can now go to work happy, can then test bug 23075 and start on mana section of manual when I get home
21:08 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23075 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Incorrect URL should have a meaningful error message
21:10 davidnind ashimema: https://www.coactivate.org/pro[…]edia/slacking-off and https://davelane.nz/why-slack-[…]s-shouldnt-use-it via Dave Lane
21:12 ashimema Looks interesting, bedtime reading.. 😀
21:14 cait davidnind++
21:14 for so many reasons
21:14 davidnind :-D
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