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| 06:36 | cait | @later tell wizzyrea sessions are only separate if you have different URLs, if you them only separated by port they are shared |
| 06:36 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:36 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:37 | cait | hi marcelr |
| 06:37 | marcelr | hi cait |
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| 06:42 | cait | @later tell wizzyrea i think it's related to only one cookie with the same name per domain (session cookie in this case) - has always worked like that |
| 06:42 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:42 | cait | back from conference, super tired |
| 06:42 | qa queue fulllll | |
| 06:59 | marcelr++ | |
| 07:15 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
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| 07:22 | marcelr | hi josef_moravec |
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| 07:44 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:44 | wahanui | hi, reiveune |
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| 07:46 | ashimema | @later tell Joubu you didn't fancy a quick look at my followup (and comment) on bug 20128 did you? |
| 07:46 | huginn` | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 07:54 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 09:15 | paxed | argh |
| 09:16 | i just love how the items-specific (952) fields can have value_builder plugins... but have no access to the marc fields. | |
| 09:27 | cait | paxed: can't you program the access into the plugin? |
| 09:27 | we have the one for callnumbers that pulls from the field in the record | |
| 09:38 | paxed | cait: already doing it |
| 09:39 | cait: it's just a bit strange that the same plugins can be used for "normal" marc fields and the item fields, when the page is completely different. | |
| 09:40 | cait: so can't rely on HTML (eg. by grabbing values from the editor input fields) | |
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| 10:28 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
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| 11:47 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:47 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:47 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:47 | oleonard | Welcome back calire |
| 11:48 | calire | :D |
| 11:49 | oleonard | We fixed pretty much all the bugs while you were gone, so just kick back or whatever |
| 11:49 | calire | sweet |
| 11:49 | nice one | |
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| 11:59 | oleonard | As you can see calire there's not much to talk about since all the bugs are fixed now. |
| 11:59 | calire | *tumbleweed* |
| 11:59 | guess I an go home then | |
| 12:25 | * magnuse | is finally registered for kohacon19 |
| 12:26 | magnuse | who knows what we will talk about there, when all the problems are solved? |
| 12:26 | oleonard | I'm guessing food and drink |
| 12:28 | magnuse | ah, yes there is that |
| 12:29 | and the weather | |
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| 12:50 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 12:50 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:51 | tcohen | buen día! |
| 12:53 | kidclamp | gimme a few hours guys, I'll put some bugs in, I won't let you get bored |
| 12:54 | * kidclamp | starts hardcoding variables and inserting self altering code |
| 12:54 | kidclamp | Acquisitions? never worked right, just pull that out |
| 12:55 | oleonard | kidclamp: Don't forget to sprinkle in some <font> tags, I LOVE taking those out |
| 12:55 | kidclamp | s/>/</g |
| 12:55 | that oughta cause confusion | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | LOL |
| 13:08 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 22330: Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]891e589f2ae318e78> |
| 13:12 | magnuse | nooo, don't fix the tests! |
| 13:13 | oleonard | If we don't fix the tests how will my kids get into college?! <rim-shot> |
| 13:19 | ...see, because "fix" like, cheating... It's topical! | |
| 13:28 | * kidclamp | slows claps @ oleonard |
| 13:29 | clrh | lol oleonard - I said to me, what, someone propose something about ES7 ? \o/ ^^ |
| 13:29 | hi everyone | |
| 13:29 | oleonard | Hi clrh! |
| 13:29 | (and sorry!) | |
| 13:30 | clrh | don't worry oleonard :) |
| 13:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #689: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/689/ |
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| 13:42 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:42 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #182: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/182/ | |
| 13:44 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 13:44 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #195: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/195/ | |
| 13:52 | * oleonard | got to close an omnibus bug! (19980) |
| 13:54 | oleonard | ...and Bug 20654 is getting really close |
| 13:54 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid |
| 13:59 | clrh | marc21 question.... in mappings.yaml I got 952$b in "holding library" but Idon't see it in the norm ? https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd9xx.html |
| 13:59 | Ithink I am not looking in the good place | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | 952$b isn't standard if I recall correctly. Isn't all of 952 for custom use? |
| 14:02 | OCLC says "9xx fields are not part of the standard MARC 21 format" | |
| 14:02 | ...and the second result for a search for "MARC 952" is a Koha wiki like :D | |
| 14:03 | ashimema | silly question.. is there anywhere in the UI where you can 'forgive' a charge? |
| 14:04 | aha.. it's in the 'Manual credit types'.. i see | |
| 14:04 | so it's a doesn't get associated with anything that way | |
| 14:04 | oleonard | That's what we use "writeoff" for |
| 14:04 | ashimema | indeed |
| 14:05 | but for some reason there's also 'forgiven' exposed | |
| 14:05 | (and also ffor in the background - the extra 'f' is not a typo there) | |
| 14:06 | ffor is created for 'automated forgiveness' for exempt users | |
| 14:06 | any reason you'd want both options in the UI owen | |
| 14:07 | * ashimema | thinks perhaps there is.. you might want to 'writeoff' feels like "I've given up ever getting this" whereas 'forgive' feels like "I'm being nice today and letting you off.. you were only a day late anyway" |
| 14:07 | ashimema | type uses |
| 14:07 | oleonard | yeah |
| 14:08 | Is "automated forgiveness" related to dropbox mode or something? | |
| 14:08 | ashimema | so.. do you think 'forgiven' should be a further option alongside 'Pay' and 'Writeoff' buttons rather than a 'Manual credit' |
| 14:08 | looking at the code, the automated forgive' stuff looks like it's tied to user types or something | |
| 14:08 | I've not traced it back to source yet | |
| 14:09 | "WhenLostForgiveFine" triggers it | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | Since I don't actually know what the correct use of "Write off" is I would be more comfortable having a "forgive" option |
| 14:10 | ashimema | looks like that's it |
| 14:10 | haha | |
| 14:10 | kinda makes sense | |
| 14:11 | Writeoff in accounting can mean one of two things.. either 'this things so old it's worthless to us' (in a ledger) | |
| 14:11 | and 'This things gonna cost us more than it's worth to pursue' | |
| 14:11 | I suppose in my head it's a more reluctant forgive | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | Yeah... I'm guessing somebody might want to differentiate between writeoff and forgive? |
| 14:14 | ashimema | perhaps.. but I imagine in both cases they really want to relate to what's been forgiven/written-off.. so the existing 'Forgive random amount and don't associate it with anything' is a bit wierd |
| 14:14 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:16 | ashimema | thanks :) |
| 14:16 | also.. interestingly.. the way they record is entirely different too :( | |
| 14:17 | oleonard | It's too bad we don't have a very opinionated librarian here because I know there's a lot of them out there |
| 14:17 | ashimema | the auto-forgive just changes the accounttype to 'FFOR' of the original accountlines (and updates the amountoutstanding to 0).. the manual one adds a new accountline with an amount and an accounttype of 'FOR' |
| 14:18 | both 'Pay' and 'Writeoff' are more akin to the second way of doing it.. creating a second accountline for the 'credit' | |
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| 14:18 | ashimema | wonder if we aught to really be doing that for 'forgivals' too |
| 14:19 | * oleonard | has no idea |
| 14:20 | ashimema | hehe.. AddReturn is never called with $exemptfine accross the entire codebase! |
| 14:58 | clrh | ok oleonard thanks |
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| 16:06 | tcohen | ashimema: I'm so surprised |
| 16:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:22 | oleonard | Software I didn't know libraries paid for: Incident tracking. We should make one of those. |
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| 17:27 | corilynn | oleonard, there are so many good free ones tho... |
| 17:29 | oleonard | corilynn: Are there good open source ones? I'm curious if you know one you'd recommend. Not for us but another library was asking |
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| 17:35 | corilynn | my (way back) background is in security. I've heard good things about FIDO (from Netflix) |
| 17:35 | but I haven't personally used it | |
| 17:36 | oleonard | Oh, sorry I'm talking about incidents with patrons... bad behavior, that kind of thing. |
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| 17:39 | shaffendi | hello |
| 17:39 | anyone here? | |
| 17:39 | lol | |
| 17:40 | oleonard | Yes, do you have a question about Koha shaffendi? |
| 17:40 | shaffendi | yes i do... |
| 17:41 | i have 2 koha server | |
| 17:41 | 1 production and 1 development | |
| 17:42 | my problem is on production server, im not sure which module involve but when i try to create label, it fail | |
| 17:43 | for example i edit 1 label template, when i save, it didnt save | |
| 17:43 | the same db i export and put it in development it working fine | |
| 17:44 | what i did wrong..i try to reinstall koha on development | |
| 17:44 | fyi im using koha ver 18.05.10 on debian 9 | |
| 17:44 | when i koha-remove instancename | |
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| 17:46 | shaffendi | it give me this erroe |
| 17:46 | Removing Koha instance kplh ERROR 1133 (28000) at line 1: | |
| 17:48 | Can't find any matching row in the user table | |
| 17:49 | when i check that mysql user koha created is already there | |
| 17:49 | can u help.. | |
| 17:50 | oleonard | Sorry shaffendi I don't know how to help you with that. Perhaps someone else here might |
| 17:50 | shaffendi | ok... |
| 17:51 | talljoy | sounds like a permissions issue at the db level |
| 17:51 | shaffendi | talljoy |
| 17:51 | thats what i suspect at first | |
| 17:51 | but at circulation when write off or creating manual invoice etc just working fine | |
| 17:51 | talljoy | i'm not sure how the db admin privileges relate to the koha install though. |
| 17:52 | shaffendi | same as acquisition |
| 17:52 | i can add/delete/edit fund budget | |
| 17:52 | i think if permission issues i cant do that at all | |
| 17:52 | am i right? | |
| 17:52 | talljoy | that sounds correct. |
| 17:53 | shaffendi | the problem only at cataloging part |
| 17:53 | talljoy | unable to create labels or templates? |
| 17:53 | shaffendi | is there any global setting that prevent certain user to write/update? |
| 17:53 | both talljoy | |
| 17:53 | i cant add | |
| 17:54 | cant delete | |
| 17:54 | eh | |
| 17:54 | talljoy | no. the permissions in koha are granular and relate to functions in koha, not what you can or can't do in db |
| 17:54 | shaffendi | i think i can delete |
| 17:54 | but i cant edit | |
| 17:54 | hurm..weird.. | |
| 17:54 | talljoy | i don't know the workflow in labels and templates. But if you are performing the actions correctly and still not able to add or edit, than i would suspect a problem in the database tables themselves. |
| 17:55 | wrong structure, missing data in the tables that is needed. | |
| 17:57 | shaffendi | auwww...i guess i need to look at db again.. |
| 17:57 | T_T | |
| 17:58 | tcohen | shaffendi: you're using MariaDB |
| 17:58 | corilynn | oleonard, that's a whole different "incident" isn't it?? Yeah, I don't know about those... are they expensive? What does the paid for ones get you? |
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| 17:59 | oleonard | corilynn: No idea |
| 17:59 | shaffendi | ya im using mariadb |
| 17:59 | is there any issue? | |
| 17:59 | corilynn | oleonard, do you know what the software *is*? |
| 18:00 | oleonard | http://www.quipugroup.com/PITS[…]acking-system.php, http://incident-tracker.com/ |
| 18:01 | * oleonard | wonders why anyone would name their product PITS |
| 18:01 | talljoy | cuz these patrons are the .... |
| 18:02 | better may have been PITA Patron Incident tracking application | |
| 18:02 | corilynn | true story, talljoy |
| 18:03 | oleonard | System for Patron Incident Tracking |
| 18:03 | corilynn | Patron Incident Tracking - Advanced |
| 18:08 | shaffendi | do koha a way to reinstall on the current koha? |
| 18:08 | have* | |
| 18:08 | like rewrite all the default files | |
| 18:59 | oleonard | Bye all |
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| 19:04 | shaffendi | bye all |
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| 20:35 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 22032: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]88973b824c31fd761> |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 22008: DBRev 18.12.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ed0dbb8b0a3738bc> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20478: Fix qa complaints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f848793b7218f194> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Remove dateFormat from javascript on ill requests pages. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d987dc99a9e0a73ab> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Move template to bootstrap grid <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a648d693ac4a7acf> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (QA follow-up) Rename page to "ILL requests history" for consistancy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7590f825cece9bb6d> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Fix merge problem <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0b6c01616e768edb> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Add borrowernumber test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d67b859075654bee> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Fix QA tool failures <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0c43ef583684fc42> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: (follow-up) Remove redundant-ness <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]baa278552ab936c1c> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 18589: Show ILLs as part of patron profile <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70f8a79e6db9261d3> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20478: (QA follow-up) Make test more standard <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]991e90de665063fd1> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Fixes to make unit tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50fe2300b55565d53> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Silent tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fed1e9ffb1b3488fe> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Add missing constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]659526c6fdf9195e4> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 22008: Add tests for new constraints <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fd8d84780dca2cefb> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 22032: Improve local cover image tab on detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b7353bb84af1ee1b3> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Throw exception on bad pattern <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fcdadcbc594f7217c> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21998: Add pattern parameter in Koha::Token <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]481ae1df56f674309> | |
| 20:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20478: Have the cronjob script advance_notices.pl send digest messages per branch. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]116c0bf17bb196ec1> | |
| 21:00 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #690: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/690/ |
| 21:07 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #183: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/183/ | |
| 21:14 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #196: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/196/ | |
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