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| 04:23 | * mtompset | collapses asleep. |
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| 07:04 | cait | @later tell wizzyrea could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items |
| 07:04 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:05 | cait | @later tell caroline could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items - interested in librarian opinions :) |
| 07:05 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:05 | cait | @later tell oleonard could you take a look at bug 7088 maybe? It's a circ question about handling renewal overrides of on hold items? |
| 07:05 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:10 | paxed | hm. |
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| 07:10 | paxed | select count(*) from aqorders where datecancellationprinted is not null and orderstatus!='cancelled'; => 172 |
| 07:10 | i wonder how that happens. | |
| 07:10 | fridolin | hi |
| 07:10 | cait | there were bugs with the status settings |
| 07:10 | i don't know of any unfixed | |
| 07:10 | but if they are new, probably worth investiaging | |
| 07:11 | paxed | cait: we're running a fork of 17.07 |
| 07:11 | cait | we are not that far off, 17.11 |
| 07:12 | you can't undo 'cancel order' can't you? | |
| 07:12 | and there are only 2 spots we allow to cancel from - basket and parcel | |
| 07:12 | paxed | err, 17.05, of course :D |
| 07:13 | cait | I'd start looking if both of those behave the same i guess |
| 07:28 | sorry, have to run, bbiab | |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:33 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 08:43 | ashimema | hello |
| 08:44 | * cait | waves again |
| 08:53 | magnuse | ~~~ |
| 08:56 | ashimema | @seen Joubu |
| 08:56 | huginn` | ashimema: Joubu was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 4 days, 18 hours, 34 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <Joubu> JesseM: 18.05_D8 is green! I am starting manually the runs for D9 and U18 right now |
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| 09:17 | Archie^ | Yoh Koha team! |
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| 09:51 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 12:32 | gerundio | hi everyone |
| 12:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:32 | gerundio | I'm experiencing some issues regarding mails being sent from Koha |
| 12:32 | so far I couldn't find any documentation on this topic | |
| 12:33 | is there any reference on how to properly set up a Koha installation to send emails? | |
| 12:42 | is Koha still using the Mail::Sendmail Perl library to send all its emails? | |
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| 13:10 | oleonard | No one able to advise gerundio? |
| 13:16 | cait | oleonard: which email was that? |
| 13:18 | oleonard | They were asking here, a few minutes ago |
| 13:18 | ashimema | Huh |
| 13:18 | I have no idea what module we use these days.. but I don't believe it's changed in a long time | |
| 13:19 | Basically getting the server able to send mail properly is the first step . . We just use the servers MTA to do all the real work | |
| 13:20 | * ashimema | needs to get back to his customers again now.. sorry I couldn't be more heloy |
| 13:20 | ashimema | Helo |
| 13:20 | Help .. even | |
| 13:20 | cait | ashimema: release on 22nd? |
| 13:21 | i need to catch up on translations too i just realized | |
| 13:21 | ashimema | That's the aim |
| 13:21 | fridolin is aiming for 25th for 17.11 | |
| 13:21 | I totally forgot to announce string freeze properly | |
| 13:22 | cait | i have a reminder in my calendar |
| 13:22 | there are strings | |
| 13:22 | so po files appear to have been updated | |
| 13:22 | ashimema | Bit of a challenging month 🤔 |
| 13:22 | cait | tomas is working on handover still i think? |
| 13:22 | yeah | |
| 13:22 | not sure what's up... must be something in the water or suns pots | |
| 13:23 | ashimema | Lol |
| 13:23 | cait | we also have a flu wave :( |
| 13:23 | ashimema | Yeah, Tomas did great getting things moving again |
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| 13:42 | fridolin | kidclamp: hello, any of BW using our demo ? https://intranet-demo.biblibre.com |
| 13:42 | be have code from https://staff.bedfordtx.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
| 13:43 | funny ;) | |
| 13:58 | cait | code? |
| 13:58 | wahanui | code is bad but exists, so I copied it.. really? :D |
| 13:58 | oleonard | Customizations? |
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| 14:35 | cait | hm I wonder why this didn't get replaced by %s? Can't cancel order, ([% books_loo.holds_on_order | html %]) holds are linked with this order. Cancel holds first |
| 14:35 | staff.po | |
| 14:43 | this mkes me cry: http://translate.koha-communit[…]g.po#unit=8649543 | |
| 14:46 | ashimema | ouch |
| 14:46 | blou_ | ooouuuuuuh, ouch |
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| 15:05 | cait | .... and the worst of all, it was my patch changing it |
| 15:05 | because there was a mistake somewhere | |
| 15:05 | that i noticed the last time i trasnlated that | |
| 15:07 | ashimema | lol |
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| 15:30 | cait | tcohen: strange question... isn#t recovery wrong? |
| 15:30 | recovery would be to get your lost password back, but we force a reset | |
| 15:31 | tcohen | hi |
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| 16:24 | * oleonard | hates to see "still valid" comments on a bug going on 6 years... |
| 16:24 | oleonard | In this case, Bug 10215 |
| 16:24 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10215 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Increase the size of opacnote and librariannote for table subscriptionhistory |
| 16:37 | corilynn | i mean... it's set to low priority... are librarians clammoring for it? |
| 16:38 | everyone knows SQL table changes are like chisseling WAR AND PEACE onto stone | |
| 16:54 | tuxayo | Hi, :) |
| 16:54 | Has anyone ever manually fixed (SQL) various aqorders.unitprice_tax_excluded (field "Actual price" when receiving) | |
| 16:54 | Due to bug 18723 | |
| 16:54 | I'm trying to figure all the things that must be updated as a consequence. At least there is aqorders.unitprice_tax_included | |
| 16:54 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18723 critical, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Dot not recognized as decimal separator on receive |
| 16:56 | tuxayo | oleonard: Why? Due to the bug still being there? Or due to the fact that votes (if more visible) should be the way to showing interest in a bug. |
| 16:56 | «hates to see "still valid" comments on a bug going on 6 years...» | |
| 16:57 | oleonard | tuxayo: A patch was submitted, a correction was suggested, then nothing for 6 years while people comment that they wish it could be fixed. |
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| 17:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:01 | wizzyrea | hi peeps |
| 17:02 | tuxayo | o/ |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | what's the haps |
| 17:04 | ashimema | want to resurrect the patch for it oleonard.. or would you like me to and then you can SO? |
| 17:05 | or tuxayo could if he feels like rescue duties ;) | |
| 17:05 | oleonard | ashimema: I didn't feel qualified to resurrect it myself, but I'd be happy to sign off |
| 17:05 | ashimema | it looks like a tiny patch |
| 17:05 | I'll hit it.. won't take long | |
| 17:05 | nice one to finish the day on | |
| 17:05 | tuxayo | oleonard: indeed, and there is not much left. It's a low hanging fruit (academy tag?) |
| 17:06 | (indeed it's not a pleasure to see such a situation) | |
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| 17:08 | tuxayo | ashimema: «tuxayo could if he feels like rescue duties» |
| 17:08 | I shoud probably finish stuff before beginning new one. Otherwise I will create other bugzillas like this and it will be a never ending cycle!! | |
| 17:08 | ashimema | haha |
| 17:08 | no worries | |
| 17:08 | I'm on it | |
| 17:10 | tuxayo | thanks :) |
| 17:13 | * tuxayo | wonders if it would work to have general donations that could allocaded as bounties to small/medium bugs |
| 17:13 | tuxayo | https://www.bountysource.com/i[…]bscriptionhistory |
| 17:13 | And if that would attract more individuals doing Koha support to start contributing | |
| 17:14 | ashimema | I've wondered that a few times |
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| 17:26 | ashimema | rescued.. fancy testing it oleonard |
| 17:26 | ;) | |
| 17:27 | how did you do that bounty thing tucayo? | |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | another idea is a list where libraries could ask for development bids from vendors |
| 17:29 | ashimema | we've never had any luck with croudfunding |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | not crowdfunding |
| 17:29 | ashimema | we're trying again recently, but I don't hold out a huge amount of hope myself |
| 17:29 | hmm.. suppose not | |
| 17:29 | cait | no josef... around... but he is awesome. hope he knows. |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | a library has money to solve a problem, but no developer, make a place where that library can ask vendors to bid. |
| 17:30 | i feel like they'd have to have a spec ready though | |
| 17:30 | ashimema | that would be nice |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | as part of the request for bid |
| 17:30 | ashimema | indeed |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | not vague feature requests |
| 17:30 | ashimema | totally |
| 17:31 | cait | hm would be interesting to hear how bwater's experiences are |
| 17:31 | ashimema | find-a-dev type thingy |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | yeah |
| 17:31 | ashimema | indeed |
| 17:52 | oleonard | ashimema++ |
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| 17:56 | niki | hi |
| 17:56 | wahanui | que tal, niki |
| 17:56 | niki | how can i sow the all patrons list |
| 18:01 | tuxayo | ashimema++ |
| 18:01 | in commit message: «Rescued-by: Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoizeptfs-europe.com>» |
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| 18:01 | hue hue hue | |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea: «another idea is a list where libraries could ask for development bids from vendors» | |
| 18:18 | That's pretty much how Bountysource works. Someone would fill a bug, then in Bountysource, store money on it (get it back after some time if nothing happens) | |
| 18:18 | And when the issue is solved, the dev can claim the bounty. | |
| 18:21 | I'm amazed that IBM uses that and has put 300k USD in it https://www.bountysource.com/teams/ibm | |
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| 18:23 | tuxayo | I wish EBSCO could do that to make Koha better, in case Folio doesn't end up as they expect. |
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| 18:25 | cait | feeels like i missed some interesting discussion |
| 18:28 | oleonard | cait: We were talking about the idea of "bug bounties" ... paying for patches |
| 18:28 | cait | i tihnk fixing is only hte half of it |
| 18:29 | we have tons of patches untested | |
| 18:29 | ashimema | josef_moravec about? |
| 18:30 | tuxayo | cait: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]9-02-20#i_2118978 |
| 18:31 | cait | tuxayo: i know, thx :) just betweenkitchen and laptop right now |
| 18:35 | tuxayo | «we have tons of patches untested» |
| 18:36 | I wonder if it would work if support companies would give a small discount if the libraries-customers would do a signoff from time to time :P | |
| 18:36 | Or also have bounties for signoffs. | |
| 18:38 | ashimema | We encourage our libraries to sign off.. many do |
| 18:38 | Many dont | |
| 18:38 | I don't think it often comes down to money | |
| 18:38 | More confidence and time | |
| 18:41 | cait | there is lots of patches stuck that need developers to sign off to |
| 18:41 | maybe another approach would be to add a charge for community type of work | |
| 18:41 | every patch you submit... also test 2 | |
| 18:43 | ashimema | Very hard to sell that. |
| 18:45 | cait | then name it something different? |
| 18:45 | truth is... libraries invest in folio too | |
| 18:45 | heavily so | |
| 18:45 | so it can be sold | |
| 18:45 | thinking of all the people working on interest groups etc | |
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| 18:53 | cait | sorry, I didn't wan tto kill the discussion |
| 18:53 | hi caroline1 :) | |
| 18:53 | caroline1 | hey! |
| 18:56 | cait | kidclamp: thx for the quick follow-ups :) |
| 18:56 | kidclamp | np, doing my best :-) |
| 18:56 | cait | i would probably have fixed them later - just didn't get further this morning |
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| 19:20 | cait | oleonard++ bug clean-up |
| 19:20 | kathryn | morning oleonard and cait and all :) |
| 19:20 | oleonard | Hi kathryn |
| 19:20 | kathryn | hi :) |
| 19:24 | tcohen | cait: I bet we all test more patches than those we submit already |
| 19:24 | a bag of hazelnut cookies | |
| 19:25 | =D | |
| 19:28 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 19:28 | tcohen: the dashboard shows those stats btw :) | |
| 19:29 | and you are right... but with qa and so needed 1:2 is not quite reached | |
| 19:29 | hm | |
| 19:29 | patches to signoffs: 20105412 | |
| 19:30 | 2010 5412 | |
| 19:30 | wonder what breaks the theory... multiple qa runs? | |
| 19:30 | tcohen | indeed |
| 19:30 | 205 284 | |
| 19:30 | that's not a 2x ratio | |
| 19:30 | but isn't that bad, right? | |
| 19:31 | cait: you break the media | |
| 19:32 | cait | hm? |
| 19:34 | tcohen | your ratio |
| 19:34 | 104 511 | |
| 19:34 | cait | 104 appears a bit high even... although i have been writing lots of small things |
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| 19:56 | oleonard | See y'all later! |
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| 23:30 | alexbuckley | hi all, I have a problem. I am trying to load a 17.05.06 db data into a site and then upgrade it to 18.11.01. I have dropped and re-created the db, then run koha-upgrade-schema however I end up with 224 tables rather than 205 as expected for 18.11.01. This is due to some tables not being removed during the koha-upgrade-schema, has anyone come across this before and have any suggestions? |
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