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| 05:27 | maya-dec-18 | hi --- is upgrading to koha 18.11 is safe now or do we need to wait ? |
| 05:38 | hi --- is upgrading to koha 18.11 is safe now or do we need to wait --- while DBMS Auto Increment error is fixed ? | |
| 05:40 | is anyone there? | |
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| 07:38 | magnuse | o/ |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:41 | Archie^ | good morning :) |
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| 08:42 | josef_moravec | morning #koha; |
| 08:43 | cait | morning #koha and josef_moravec |
| 08:45 | josef_moravec | hi cait |
| 08:47 | cait | um |
| 08:47 | are bug 21951 and bug 21465 duplicates? | |
| 08:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21951 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Patron import fails if matching on cardnumber and userid also matches |
| 08:47 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21465 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Cannot overlay patrons when matching by cardnumber if userid exists in file and in Koha | |
| 08:47 | ashimema | sounds like it to me |
| 08:51 | josef_moravec | it is duplicate according to me... |
| 08:51 | cait | the fix is different |
| 08:51 | and one has tests and the other not | |
| 08:51 | + and not ( $borrowernumber ? $patron->userid( $borrower{userid} )->has_valid_userid : Koha::Patron->new( { userid => $borrower{userid} } )->has_valid_userid ) | |
| 08:52 | not sure i understand that one yet | |
| 08:52 | vs. | |
| 08:52 | and ( (!$borrowernumber) || (Koha::Patrons->find($borrowernumber)->userid ne $borrower{userid}) ) | |
| 08:56 | josef_moravec | I would try to run the test from second one on top of patch from first one ;) |
| 08:58 | cait | please do ;) |
| 08:59 | josef_moravec | cait: working on it ;) |
| 08:59 | cait | thx! |
| 08:59 | I'll resume sending qa mails next monday i hope | |
| 09:06 | josef_moravec | cait: pass against first (kyle's) patch ;) |
| 09:08 | and fails without any patch ;) | |
| 09:09 | maybe some comment in code like why the conditions is here would be helpful for future ... | |
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| 09:39 | cait | josef_moravec: i agree |
| 09:58 | woking a bit on the manual today | |
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| 11:23 | cait | @wunder Upfingen |
| 11:23 | huginn | cait: Upfingen, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 41F/5C | Thursday: Generally cloudy. High 48F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 44F. Winds SW at 10 to 15 mph. |
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| 11:37 | eythian | @wunder amsterdam |
| 11:37 | huginn | eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Overcast :: 54F/12C | Thursday: Generally cloudy. High 53F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Thursday Night: Rain. Low 52F. Winds SW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch. |
| 11:38 | eythian | almost tropical, except that chance of rain. |
| 11:46 | cait | weird winter |
| 11:46 | btw... I messed up, please help me fix it: bug 21961 | |
| 11:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21961 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Typo in permission keeps Did you mean? config from showing up |
| 11:52 | josef_moravec | cait: where is problem with your patch? It looks to be working... |
| 11:53 | cait | the problem is that i cuased the bug with my patch for granular admin permissions :) |
| 11:53 | josef_moravec | cait: ah, I see ;) |
| 11:53 | cait | just noticed it while documenting the new perms |
| 11:55 | josef_moravec | cait: here you are ;) |
| 11:56 | cait | thx josef_moravec :) |
| 11:57 | josef_moravec++ | |
| 12:01 | Archie^ | Hey, has anyone migrated libraries into koha? I was wondering, do you just insert records into "issues"'table? or there is another way to do it ? |
| 12:07 | josef_moravec | Archie^: Yes, when importing checkout, we just insert it into issues table (only the active ones, the returned ones should go into old_issues) |
| 12:07 | Archie^ | ok, just double checking! Thank oyu josef_moravec ! |
| 12:08 | cait | if you migrate historiy issues too, make sure you have no doubled up ids |
| 12:09 | we usually fill old_issues first and then set the pk in issues to a higher value before importing there | |
| 12:09 | so you got the right sequence | |
| 12:09 | josef_moravec | cait: thank to clarify, yes that's the way we do it too, |
| 12:10 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 12:10 | josef_moravec | hi Joubu |
| 12:11 | Archie^ | ok, so Old_issues, then regular issues |
| 12:12 | got it, thanks ! | |
| 12:13 | josef_moravec | Archie^: and update autoincremet of issues to max(issue_id)+1 from old_issues |
| 12:16 | cait | i should start updating the faq with stuf flike this :) |
| 12:16 | but needs some major clean-up first | |
| 12:22 | kidclamp | @wunder 05001 |
| 12:22 | huginn | kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Clear :: 18F/-8C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. A few flurries or snow showers possible. High 34F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Cloudy skies. A few flurries or snow showers possible. Low near 25F. Winds light and variable. |
| 12:28 | * cait | waves at kidclamp |
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| 12:30 | kidclamp | hi cait |
| 12:31 | oleonard | Hi too |
| 12:31 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:31 | @wunder bodø, norway | |
| 12:31 | huginn | magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway |
| 12:31 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 12:31 | huginn | magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 37F/3C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Snow showers. Temps nearly steady in the mid 30s. Winds SSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulations less than one inch. Thursday Night: Snow showers this evening. Becoming partly cloudy later. Low 24F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50%. Snow accumulations less tha |
| 12:32 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 12:32 | huginn | oleonard: Athens, OH :: Clear :: 29F/-2C | Wind Chill: 24F/-4C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High near 40F. Winds SW at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Rain or snow showers this evening will give way to partly cloudy skies overnight. Low 22F. Winds light and variable. Chance of snow 60%. |
| 12:41 | * cait | waves at oleonard |
| 12:46 | * magnuse | is the king of hotness |
| 12:54 | kidclamp | magnuse needs that on a tshirt |
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| 13:20 | oleonard | I'm going to start a podcast in which, every week, I talk about one of my patches that needs signoff. You're all subscribed. |
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| 13:21 | ashimema | hehe |
| 13:22 | cait | which is on for this week? |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Bug 21751 |
| 13:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21751 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , fixFloat toolbar not displaying properly in Chrome |
| 13:25 | Archie^ | Is there a way to import marc records into koha so it compares both for 020 and 022 ? |
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| 13:44 | Joubu | kidclamp: can you confirm you do not recreate bug 21675? |
| 13:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21675 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to add to a basket with ElasticSearch enabled |
| 13:45 | Joubu | oleonard: I get a conflict - CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/staff-global.css |
| 13:45 | oleonard | I'm fixing it right now Joubu. I shouldn't have released the podcast before testing that! |
| 13:47 | kidclamp | Joubu: confirmed |
| 13:47 | podcast? | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | kidclamp: My weekly podcast about patches I'm waiting for signoffs on. |
| 13:49 | Joubu: It should work now. staff-global.css was included in the patch by accident. | |
| 13:50 | tuxayo | > I'm going to start a podcast in which, every week, I talk about one of my patches that needs signoff. You're all subscribed. |
| 13:50 | hi hi hi | |
| 13:50 | ^^ | |
| 13:52 | cait | *sighs* looks like my patch to make the acq pemission descrpitions nice was undone somehow :( |
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| 13:54 | cait | *grrrs* |
| 13:55 | caroline | hello! |
| 13:55 | cait | hi caroline |
| 13:55 | caroline | what are your roaring about cait? |
| 13:56 | cait | merge thing changed back the acq permission descriptons i had fixed in master |
| 13:56 | :( | |
| 13:56 | so now it all reads budges again when some of them are for funds | |
| 13:56 | and i have to redo my work | |
| 13:56 | *shrugs | |
| 13:56 | working on a bigger manual submission adding all the new permissions | |
| 13:56 | caroline | cait I was also working on that :) oops! |
| 13:56 | cait | oh |
| 13:57 | i am done with the administration ones | |
| 13:57 | caroline | I didn't commit because I didn't have time to finish |
| 13:57 | cait | ready to submit, i just wanted to do acq now too |
| 13:57 | i will push up the branch - you can take a look | |
| 13:57 | caroline | Do you want me to send you my text by email? You can add it |
| 13:59 | cait | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/201 |
| 13:59 | mine is her now | |
| 13:59 | did I miss the one on taiga? | |
| 13:59 | i added it earlier - i had promised a patch to documentaiton since it was me who added a ton of permissions :) | |
| 14:00 | caroline | never mind, I had just done the admin ones too |
| 14:00 | For the acq permissions, I had just copied whatever was in the interface | |
| 14:00 | In admin, I was missing the elastic search thing and the usage stats | |
| 14:01 | That's why I hadn't pushed it | |
| 14:01 | cait | yeah |
| 14:01 | the interface is wrong | |
| 14:01 | now | |
| 14:02 | i had fixed it but it got undone :( | |
| 14:02 | i will write up a fix for koha master and then a docs patch, if that'sok? | |
| 14:02 | caroline | yup |
| 14:02 | go ahead | |
| 14:02 | first push gets the worm | |
| 14:02 | cait | we might be too much in sync or something :) |
| 14:03 | I'll track everything i work on in taiga | |
| 14:03 | Joubu | you should not redo it but undo the undo instead :) |
| 14:03 | cait | Joubu: not sure how to do that, can you guide me? |
| 14:03 | it's here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e74b419bc4572b96 | |
| 14:03 | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/permissions.inc | |
| 14:04 | it shoudl have only beena new line for adding suggestions permission | |
| 14:04 | i guess there was a conflict | |
| 14:04 | ashimema | . |
| 14:06 | Joubu | cait: if it is just those 4 lines it will be quicker to c/p them and commit them again |
| 14:06 | cait | ok ;) |
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| 14:07 | Joubu | kidclamp: you should ask for a rebase when you get a conflict on PQA patches |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | what did I do instead? FQA? gets more attention :-) |
| 14:09 | cait | i think you are i fixed it falsely |
| 14:09 | but i am not tracking down if it was you or me now :) just fixing it | |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | Ah, when I think I am smart enough I do try to fix, perhaps I am not as smart as I think |
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| 14:50 | cait | caroline: the acq permission description update is in the same merge request as the other ermission changes |
| 14:50 | bbl :) | |
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| 15:20 | oleonard | Joubu: Is this the toolbar behavior you saw? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15441095881052 |
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| 15:22 | Joubu | oleonard: yep |
| 15:27 | oleonard | Yeah... I think that's better than what we have now. |
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| 15:45 | Joubu | oleonard: As a FF user it is not :) |
| 15:47 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 15:47 | caroline | Hello mtompset |
| 15:47 | mtompset | Greetings, caroline Joubu. |
| 15:47 | Couldn't duplicate now, so I just closed the bug 21857, Joubu | |
| 15:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21857 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Fresh kohadevbox fails to web install |
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| 16:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #1: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D9/1/ |
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| 16:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #1: FAILURE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_U18/1/ |
| 16:41 | Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #2: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D9/2/ | |
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| 16:44 | * CrispyBran | waves |
| 16:45 | caroline | hi CrispyBran |
| 16:45 | CrispyBran | hi caroline |
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| 16:49 | karuson | Hi CrispyBran and caroline |
| 16:49 | caroline | hi karuson |
| 16:49 | CrispyBran | hi karuson |
| 17:17 | ashimema | tcohen++ #getting Jenkins setup for 18.11 |
| 17:18 | Joubu | no D8? |
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| 17:29 | ashimema | Think he's still working on them |
| 17:30 | Could be the isik space issue on the Bywater node | |
| 17:30 | Disk | |
| 17:30 | cait | caroline: a while ago we discussed moving the faq from the website to the wiki |
| 17:30 | i'd like to start with cleaning up the faq page, but not sure where this shoudl go as a taiga task? | |
| 17:31 | maybe 18.11 - chapter clean-up? | |
| 17:32 | tcohen | ashimema: the missing D8 task was just a check to know if Joubu is back |
| 17:32 | LOL | |
| 17:34 | * cait | sends some christmas cookies |
| 17:39 | ashimema | hehe |
| 17:40 | caroline | cait: sorry, I hadn't seen your message |
| 17:40 | I thought the faq was to stay in the manual? | |
| 17:41 | Didn't we have a vote on that in one of the meetings? | |
| 17:44 | cait | yep to stay in the manual |
| 17:44 | there is also some on hte website | |
| 17:44 | my plan is to first update the manual - clean it up | |
| 17:44 | and the move the good ones from the website into the manual too | |
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| 17:44 | cait | and then link from the website to the manual maybe? but remove the faq section there |
| 17:45 | caroline | ok good plan |
| 17:45 | cait | some of the faq are not correct anymore, so trying ot figure out those |
| 17:45 | is it checkin date or check-in date? | |
| 17:45 | caroline | Maybe put them in comments and we can go over them later if you don't have time right now |
| 17:47 | In sysprefs, it is written "checkin", in homepage it is "check in" ... | |
| 17:47 | any english natives want to weigh in on "check in" vs "checkin" | |
| 17:47 | I think one is a verb and the other a noun? | |
| 17:48 | ashimema | to 'check in' is an action (verb).. 'checkin' is the name of the result of the action (noun).. |
| 17:48 | that's how I would read it. | |
| 17:50 | caroline | thx ashimema |
| 17:50 | ashimema | :) |
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| 17:56 | cait | so... checkindate? |
| 17:56 | and thx :) | |
| 17:56 | caroline: i try to make them right :) | |
| 17:57 | right now i am hopefully improving the explanation of holds to pull versus holds queue | |
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| 17:59 | multiarch | hi - is it safe to install koha on multiarch debian with i386 and amd64 enabled systems ? is it safe to practice on production server? |
| 18:01 | please help on above --- | |
| 18:01 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:01 | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #2: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_U18/2/ | |
| 18:05 | cait | multiarch: if don't know - maybe this would be better on the mailing list |
| 18:05 | multiarch | cait: Ok. |
| 18:06 | cait | caroline: do you know right away how to comment out? |
| 18:06 | haven't used that yet | |
| 18:07 | ah .. | |
| 18:08 | multiarch | hi all : if anyone have the info please share ! |
| 18:08 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #1: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D8/1/ |
| 18:09 | Joubu | tcohen: that would be interesting to have test coverage data |
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| 18:45 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:48 | caroline | @later tell cait sorry I was out on lunch... comment lines start with .. (two periods) |
| 18:48 | huginn | caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:42 | cait | is htere still an item limit on records for indexing? |
| 19:42 | or do we index xml these days andit's all good? that's what i thought | |
| 19:42 | tcohen: maybe you know? | |
| 19:43 | Joubu: maybe you know? | |
| 19:43 | looking at this FAQ http://paste.koha-community.org/437 | |
| 19:43 | i'd say it might break exporting as ISO 2709... but not indexing htese days | |
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| 19:46 | rangi | Joubu: are you about? |
| 19:46 | Joubu | yes |
| 19:46 | rangi | @later tell Joubu can you please redo your merge request to https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard instead, thanks |
| 19:46 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:46 | rangi | ahh you are there ;) |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Hi rangi, how's business? |
| 19:50 | rangi | not too bad, always a bit hectic this time of year, otherwise ok |
| 19:50 | Joubu | cait: I do not know, sorry |
| 19:51 | cait | i am pretty sure it#s no longer an issue |
| 19:51 | we just had some big records that caused export problems but were fine with indexing | |
| 19:51 | Joubu | rangi: done, it was fork from the old one |
| 19:52 | rangi | ahh right, thanks :) |
| 19:53 | * ashimema | hints that the 17.05 badges should also be remove ;) |
| 19:54 | ashimema | Joubu++ thanks for doing that.. I knew there was something I'd forgotten ;) |
| 19:55 | oleonard | Hey I never got my 17.05 badge |
| 19:55 | Joubu | ashimema: I wanted to keep them to show it's stable |
| 19:55 | ashimema | stable.. but is it still maintained ;) |
| 19:56 | Joubu | we could add a hint to show it's no longer maintained, and remove it in the next months? |
| 19:56 | I do not mind removing them :) | |
| 19:58 | oleonard | Release managers should get rings like the Super Bowl winners |
| 20:00 | ashimema | hmm |
| 20:00 | leave it for now... perhaps one to bring up at a meeting :) | |
| 20:03 | rangi | Joubu: merged and released to production |
| 20:04 | Joubu | thanks! |
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| 20:15 | cait | hmm |
| 20:15 | i don't think we limit download at 10.000 anymore either | |
| 20:15 | do we? | |
| 20:15 | i think i have downloaded reports with way more | |
| 20:15 | **Question**: When I download my report it's limited to 10,000 results, | |
| 20:15 | how do I get all of the results to download? | |
| 20:17 | rangi | hmm yeah i dont think we have a built in limit anymore |
| 20:17 | not sure though | |
| 20:17 | Joubu | looking at the code we do not |
| 20:18 | cait | just verified with testing, we don't |
| 20:18 | 12000 something downloaded and displayed | |
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| 20:20 | kidclamp | there is a limit in the csv tool we use I believe |
| 20:20 | I think more than 1million is problematic | |
| 20:23 | cait | hm |
| 20:23 | i think the explanation of relevance serach ther eis all wrong | |
| 20:24 | kidclamp | where? |
| 20:24 | cait | hm the faq |
| 20:24 | frido explained it to me once... but i can't access my notes right now (being on vacation) | |
| 20:24 | might have to leave it for later | |
| 20:25 | http://paste.koha-community.org/438 | |
| 20:26 | kidclamp | turn on zebra request logging and you can see al the searches it does and ask zebra to explain the ranking |
| 20:26 | cait | that might be a good learning experience |
| 20:27 | but... i got no idea how to do htat :) | |
| 20:27 | we hsould document that heh | |
| 20:28 | actually i think the most relevant answre here would be: Turn off QuryAutoTruncate becuase it completely breaks relevance ranking | |
| 20:28 | but i am not usre if we want ot put that in the manual | |
| 20:28 | caroline | I think it is relevant |
| 20:28 | ppl need to know | |
| 20:28 | cait | i might shorten it to the facts we know - don't be afraid to search for "the help" |
| 20:29 | koha doesn't know stop words and will use it for searching | |
| 20:29 | improve relevance by turning off the automatic truncation | |
| 20:29 | git never forgets, so canalways add back more info once verifed | |
| 20:29 | kidclamp | queryautotruncate, or ICU |
| 20:29 | both destroy relevancy | |
| 20:29 | cait | ICU too? |
| 20:29 | interesting | |
| 20:30 | kidclamp | there is no relevancy whenusing ICU chains |
| 20:30 | cait | we haven't noticed that... but probably too small libraries |
| 20:30 | kidclamp | all results are ranked 0 |
| 20:30 | cait | ok, i will add ICU too |
| 20:30 | kidclamp | there is a way to get the score, but I can't find it right now |
| 20:32 | ashimema | we've been using ICU in all cases for all customers for many years |
| 20:32 | caroline | that is good to know, that means nothing in french would be ranked |
| 20:32 | cait | only if you use icu, i think you don't strictly have to with French |
| 20:33 | you absolutely need it if your records use non-latin scripts | |
| 20:33 | hebrew, arabic, sanscrit | |
| 20:33 | caroline | ins't icu used to search for é, è, ê when you type e |
| 20:33 | cait | everything that can be mapped to a latin character is fine |
| 20:33 | caroline | ? |
| 20:33 | cait | you can also do that with standard Zebra config - without isu |
| 20:33 | icu | |
| 20:33 | make the diacritics work, that is | |
| 20:33 | caroline | ah ok |
| 20:34 | cait | but then you need a mapping for each diacritic to a base character |
| 20:34 | so ICU is easier there | |
| 20:34 | ICU also breaks exact search | |
| 20:34 | which is why we don't use it for the really big libraries we have | |
| 20:34 | ti,ext:Nature | |
| 20:35 | for finding especially that one that is just nature... if you have alot of records about the same topics that is really helpful | |
| 20:35 | caroline | yes we noticed that during a training |
| 20:35 | thankfully, that was written in the manual :) | |
| 20:35 | * ashimema | will dig into that tomorrow.. I'm pretty confident that we use ICU |
| 20:37 | cait | Note: If multiple results have the same relevancy score, they will be |
| 20:37 | sorted by biblionumber as second criteria. | |
| 20:37 | is that correct in english? | |
| 20:38 | caroline | sounds ok |
| 20:42 | ashimema | we found that with ICU the only combination of prefs that seemed to consistently work OK was |
| 20:43 | QueryAutoTruncate - only if *added | |
| 20:43 | QueryFuzzy - don't try | |
| 20:43 | QueryStemming - Try | |
| 20:43 | with the exception that that combination breaks boolean operators | |
| 20:44 | cait | hm |
| 20:44 | i think our booleans used to work | |
| 20:44 | haven't tested in a long time | |
| 20:44 | there is sooooo much we should document | |
| 20:45 | from the hive brain | |
| 20:45 | ashimema | we also have some zebra config level changes that fix apostrophe searching fairly well |
| 20:45 | caroline | I know! there is so much info lying around even just on irc |
| 20:45 | cait | i use a merged sort file |
| 20:45 | from all the existing sort files | |
| 20:45 | heh | |
| 20:45 | because... goehte libraries | |
| 20:45 | ashimema | we should kill off the koha side prefs as much as possible and let such functionality be handled at the indexing engine level.. |
| 20:46 | cait | hm? |
| 20:47 | ashimema | half the issues we have with search can be derived from the fact that we completely butcher the search terms before they get to the search engine |
| 20:47 | cait | got another hard one next htat looks wrong |
| 20:47 | $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init | |
| 20:47 | $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init | |
| 20:47 | i don't think the -g iso thing looks right | |
| 20:47 | ashimema | anywho.. I get the distinct feeling these days that's no-ones interesing in fixing zebra stuff now ;) |
| 20:47 | cait | resettiing zebra indexes |
| 20:47 | i am interested... but that doesn't help much i guess | |
| 20:47 | i still think we need to keep it working | |
| 20:47 | ashimema | hehe |
| 20:48 | cait | thinking about smaller libraries with not so good hardware |
| 20:48 | same reason we didn't want to replace with solr | |
| 20:48 | so... someone for resetting zebra indexes? :) | |
| 20:48 | rangi | yeah, elastic is going to be too heavy for 90% of koha users |
| 20:49 | we represent (for the most part) the other 10% but we cant leave the 90 behind | |
| 20:49 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/439 |
| 20:49 | exactly | |
| 20:49 | ashimema | agreed |
| 20:53 | * cait | removes FRBRizing content because XISBN is dead |
| 20:54 | ashimema | did we not find an alternative in the end? |
| 20:54 | caroline | I didn't know FRBR depended on XISBN |
| 20:54 | that is sad | |
| 20:55 | cait | the editions might still work, but it was talking about xisbn only |
| 20:55 | not sure how the editions work - something more to document - oi | |
| 20:55 | caroline | I would love to see FRBR groupings in the OPAC |
| 20:57 | cait | I am noticing some errors in the |
| 20:57 | koha-zebradaemon-output.log file... | |
| 20:57 | we aren't using that anymore.. do we? | |
| 20:58 | hm it's also written completely for non-package installs predating the indexer | |
| 20:58 | ashimema | lol |
| 20:58 | cait | still helpful or reomve? http://paste.koha-community.org/440 |
| 20:59 | this is 18.11 manual, woudl still be in the manuals for the older vresions | |
| 21:01 | * ashimema | clocks off.. knackered. |
| 21:01 | ashimema | night #koha |
| 21:02 | cait | night ashimema |
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| 21:11 | cait | am i the only one that thinks talking as 'I' in the manual doesn't make sense if it's not a real quote with source? |
| 21:11 | I know there have been a lot of questions on receipt printers... | |
| 21:11 | who is I? | |
| 21:11 | wahanui | you are really good at running into things |
| 21:11 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:11 | wahanui: i think you might be right there | |
| 21:11 | wahanui | cait: i'm not following you... |
| 21:12 | caroline | I'm guessing "I" is Nicole |
| 21:12 | but I agree with you, it doesn't make sense anymore | |
| 21:14 | cait | i've rewritten some parts |
| 21:15 | caroline | cait++ |
| 21:15 | cait | not perfect stilll... continuous improvement? |
| 21:16 | caroline | of course! like everything else in life :) |
| 21:23 | cait | merge request submitted |
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| 21:24 | caroline | should I be the one to merge? not sure if I have the rights |
| 21:25 | cait | dunno, rangi? :) |
| 21:25 | rangi | give it a go :) |
| 21:25 | cait | "I’ve just installed Koha, I haven’t touched any settings, and I can’t add patrons! Why?" recommends adding patron categories etc... i think with the onboarding this should now not happen? |
| 21:27 | rangi | caroline: i just gave you developer access so you should be able to merge |
| 21:27 | caroline | rangi: can you walk me through? I see a "Merge" button, but it is greyed out |
| 21:27 | ah ! | |
| 21:27 | rangi | so maybe refresh and it will be green :) |
| 21:27 | cait | "There is currently not a tool within Koha to batch modify bibliographic records. All things going well, Bug 11395 will be included in version 3.20." *sigh* |
| 21:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Batch modifications for records |
| 21:27 | rangi | heh |
| 21:28 | ashimema | Lol |
| 21:28 | cait | Koha uses 3 cookies : |
| 21:28 | you wish... | |
| 21:30 | caroline | rangi: still grey... I logged out and relogged in |
| 21:30 | it says "Ready to be merged automatically. Ask someone with write access to this repository to merge this request" | |
| 21:31 | rangi | ohhh lemme check |
| 21:31 | try that now please | |
| 21:32 | caroline | ooh! I saw it appear" |
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| 21:36 | caroline | rangi: is it better to "merge when the pipeline succeeds" or "merge immediately"? |
| 21:36 | and is it supposed to take a long time? | |
| 21:36 | rangi | in our case for the manual |
| 21:37 | merge immediately is fine | |
| 21:38 | caroline | I chose merge immediately and the button changed to "merge in progress", but I feel like it's taking a long time |
| 21:38 | rangi | the merge takes a little while |
| 21:38 | caroline | ok thanks! |
| 21:39 | rangi | cait: can you also check your runners? |
| 21:40 | and/or cancel the pending ones? https://gitlab.com/kfischer1/k[…]-manual/pipelines | |
| 21:40 | cait | oh |
| 21:40 | i thought i'd managed to turn them off | |
| 21:40 | rangi | i think gitlab has changed something |
| 21:41 | cait | not sur ehow to cancel hhem |
| 21:41 | looking, but not seeing it | |
| 21:41 | rangi | yeah, i dunno either |
| 21:41 | its something to do with the new autodevops or something | |
| 21:41 | maybe there is a settin gyou can turn autodevops off? | |
| 21:41 | cait | found it... it opened int he wrong browser where i was not logge din |
| 21:41 | *hides* | |
| 21:41 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:42 | caroline | happens to me all the time :) I wonder why I can't send a merge request... duh! :) |
| 21:43 | ah! Are you supposed to cancel the pipeline if I'm not done merging? | |
| 21:43 | rangi | i think its still waiting for the pipeline to finish in caits repo, and it never will |
| 21:44 | caroline | It says "Something went wrong. Please try again" and the "merge in progress" button is red |
| 21:44 | rangi | if you go back now, do you ahve yeah it was still waiting, so try the merge again |
| 21:45 | caroline | it worked! thx rangi++ |
| 21:45 | rangi | cool |
| 21:45 | cait | there shoudl be a checkbox, but i am not seeing it |
| 21:45 | https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/wor[…]ry_mirroring.html | |
| 21:45 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:48 | cait | hm eah, not spotting an option to turn off :( |
| 21:48 | I'll try this | |
| 21:48 | add and remove | |
| 21:48 | https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/[…]b-ce/issues/50407 | |
| 21:49 | rangi | right, worth a try |
| 21:50 | cait | ok |
| 21:50 | after removing it twice the option showed up | |
| 21:50 | and I DIDN'T check it | |
| 21:50 | we'll see next patch if it works | |
| 21:51 | rangi | *fingers crossed* |
| 21:52 | cait | does it still publish automatically? |
| 21:52 | rangi | yep |
| 21:53 | https://koha-community.org/manual/19.05/en/html/ <--master | |
| 21:53 | https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/ <-- manual18.11.x branch | |
| 21:53 | caroline: do you want to learn how to cherry pick that merge back to the 18.11 manual too? | |
| 21:54 | caroline | yes! |
| 21:54 | I saw a cherry pick button | |
| 21:54 | rangi | thats exactly what you click on |
| 21:54 | cait | caroline++ :) |
| 21:54 | rangi | if it has gone |
| 21:54 | you can find the commit | |
| 21:54 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cb438cdcd77c5df67 | |
| 21:55 | caroline | Do I check "Start a new merge request with these changes"? |
| 21:55 | rangi | then in the options menu, choose cherry-pick |
| 21:55 | i dont | |
| 21:55 | but you can | |
| 21:55 | its up to you | |
| 21:55 | if you choose that, it makes a new merge request that you can go merge | |
| 21:55 | caroline | "The merge request has been successfully cherry-picked into manual18.11.x." :D |
| 21:55 | rangi | if you dont, it does that :) |
| 21:56 | caroline | What's the difference? |
| 21:56 | rangi | if its something you are unsure of, then checking it will mean someone else can go look and decide to merge or not |
| 21:56 | caroline | ah ok! |
| 21:57 | cait | guess most workflows involve more people heh |
| 21:57 | rangi | heh yeah |
| 21:57 | im happy to leave stuff for you caroline | |
| 21:57 | and if you want me to look, just do a comment, or a new merge request on the cherry pick or whatever | |
| 21:58 | and ill be a second pair of eyes | |
| 21:58 | caroline | ok! |
| 21:58 | I'm sure this one was easy... I'm probably going to need your help in the future | |
| 21:58 | rangi | they are mostly like that |
| 21:58 | cait | i'd not move that one: Can Koha globally edit authority records or any elements in the bib. record? |
| 21:58 | rangi | its only when someone submits one and they havent updated their version in ages |
| 21:58 | cait | it seems too general |
| 21:59 | can Koha... | |
| 22:18 | question | |
| 22:18 | wahanui | question is probably a bit general |
| 22:18 | cait | should we just remove the faq link form the website when i am done? |
| 22:19 | I'd like to link to the manual page.. but then we'd have to update for each version | |
| 22:20 | caroline | You're right |
| 22:21 | cait | there is a post release check list page in the wiki |
| 22:21 | we could add it as a note there at least... if we link to the most recent manual | |
| 22:21 | caroline | I think as long as there are links to all the resources (wiki, manual, etc), there's no need to have a link specific to the faq |
| 22:21 | cait | agree |
| 22:21 | os i am going to finish moving this and then take a look how to disable on the website | |
| 22:43 | caroline | good night everyone! |
| 22:52 | cait | night caroline! |
| 22:52 | oh... | |
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| 23:13 | * CrispyBran | looks over at the IRC |
| 23:15 | rangi | https://twitter.com/SaraMG/sta[…]70713633812951040 we should do this |
| 23:15 | the dates of initial release, active support etc | |
| 23:15 | so people can see, stop using 3.22 | |
| 23:17 | cait | ok, for the logs: I removed the FAQ from the website by archiving the page, that removes it from the navigation. For the people having booksmarks, I added a hint that things have been moved: https://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 23:17 | entries are still in wordpress, so nothing is lost yet | |
| 23:18 | where should we put it? | |
| 23:18 | rangi | maybe have a What Version should I install page |
| 23:18 | linked off the front | |
| 23:18 | then we can just send the url to people :) | |
| 23:18 | "should I upgrade?" | |
| 23:18 | cait | rangi: bad news... it's still starting a pipeline :( |
| 23:19 | rangi | how annoying |
| 23:19 | cait | yeah |
| 23:19 | rangi | you'll just have to cancel it, ill see if i can figure out how to make it only do the deploy on the main one |
| 23:19 | cait | i have canceled it |
| 23:19 | rangi | but do syntax checks for everyone else |
| 23:19 | cait | ok |
| 23:19 | rangi | then having it run wont be so bad |
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| 23:36 | Joubu | rangi: I thought about that few months ago, we could have an admin page that would hit a koha community webservice serving such info |
| 23:36 | Or simply a wiki/website page :) | |
| 23:38 | rangi | yeah |
| 23:39 | a website page would be nice, we get so many im running koha from 1932 why doesn't it work type emails :) | |
| 23:39 | so a page that lists versions and how old they are is a nice thing to be able to point people at | |
| 23:42 | Joubu | I wish we had a kanban (or stuff) to add such new task ;) |
| 23:42 | * Joubu | is running away |
| 23:42 | rangi | hehe |
| 23:42 | Joubu | bye #koha! |
| 23:42 | cait | bye Joubu |
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| 23:48 | cait joined #koha | |
| 23:59 | rangi | man proprietary vendors are clowns |
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