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| 03:14 | mtompset | I hate nested hash structures in perl! |
| 03:14 | dcook | Only in Perl? :p |
| 03:14 | mtompset | Well, right now items.itemnumber is 9,9 |
| 03:14 | because somewhere, somehow 952,9 is getting corrupted. | |
| 03:14 | and I can't find it. | |
| 03:15 | Added a bunch of print STDERR's into C4/Biblio and trying to trace why my tests are failing. | |
| 03:16 | discovered this corrupted data structure exists inside this whole test file. | |
| 03:16 | dcook | Alas, I am not following |
| 03:16 | mtompset | in C4/Biblio.pm |
| 03:17 | add a print STDERR line to tell you what $mss has. | |
| 03:17 | use Data::Dumper; print STDERR Dumper($mss); | |
| 03:17 | in the GetMarcFromKohaField | |
| 03:17 | just above the return wantarray. | |
| 03:18 | then run a prove t/db_dependent/Biblio.t | |
| 03:18 | in kshell | |
| 03:18 | on a kohadevbox. | |
| 03:18 | for some strange reason... items.itemnumber is being corrupted from the actual value on the DB. | |
| 03:19 | And yet, when I put something similar into GetMarcSubfieldStructure... it's the correct value. | |
| 03:20 | I've found nested perl structures tend to be nasty when you get something wrong. | |
| 03:21 | It's like messing up C pointers too. | |
| 03:21 | dcook | I've found Perl to be perfectly safe, but I don't know enough about the issue at hand, and it's past time for me to eat |
| 03:22 | mtompset | I* just want to se tup a biblio with two items... and it's blowing up. :( |
| 03:22 | tag '9' is invalid. | |
| 03:23 | I'm going to call it a night on this. | |
| 03:24 | I'm trying to add GetMarcBiblio testing. | |
| 03:24 | There isn't a full test suite for that function. | |
| 04:03 | Have a great day, #koha dcook | |
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| 07:24 | fridolin | hi |
| 07:25 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:41 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 07:45 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:45 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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| 08:31 | * ere | just got the first results via Z39.50 from Elasticsearch |
| 08:32 | kohaputti | ere, it would be really nice to get the record processing part of the new ES indexing code multi-threaded! |
| 08:33 | so many cores on my machine but just 1 used | |
| 08:34 | ere, are you writing search engine agnostic sru/z39.50? | |
| 08:35 | ere | kohaputti: True... a simple way would be to add start offset and skip count to the indexing script so you could run multiple in parallel |
| 08:35 | kohaputti: Yes, a better one than the Dancer-based SRU server | |
| 08:35 | kohaputti | ok, the dancer-based one was super simple! :) |
| 08:36 | ere | kohaputti: So is this :) |
| 08:36 | kohaputti | I kinda liked it, not too much code to maintain |
| 08:36 | ere | kohaputti: Ok, this is over 200 lines, but this quite manageable |
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| 08:46 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 08:56 | magnuse | ere++ |
| 08:56 | tjänare andreashm | |
| 08:56 | andreashm | morn magnuse |
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| 10:22 | Archie^ | hey in what table/row can i find barcodes for items in koha? |
| 10:22 | sophie_m | items.barcode Archie^ |
| 10:23 | Archie^ | thanks :) |
| 10:24 | is there marc21xml space responsible for barcode? | |
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| 11:29 | coyas | hi |
| 11:32 | i am trying to install koha | |
| 11:32 | but this error show up | |
| 11:33 | Software error: bad template path | |
| 11:33 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21819: (QA follow-up) Replace onchange() in touched code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]10defdca6decdaa1d> |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21615: Move stock rotation in the tools menu <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53fc25163362591d1> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21853: (follow-up) to solve printpdf error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]24edacc02cfe6f5b5> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21853: Fix PDF export of basketgroups <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f1ac746a640f25099> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21819: Marc modification templates action always checks Regexp checkbox <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]922209a4e8f6df9a1> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21854: Use template plugin to display category description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dc10c136c8d057e98> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21837: Don't set holdingbranch filter using selected homebranch filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a3f69697d13c7d62> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21823: Force creation of POT file even if there is no messages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60372e8fb2253d44a> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21529: (follow-up) USE raw filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]20fe18c093c169191> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 21529: (bug 13618 follow-up) Display print notices with HTML tags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6cb79800ba991e51> | |
| 11:34 | coyas | anyone knows what this error is about |
| 11:35 | kidclamp | when loading the web installer coyas ? |
| 11:40 | coyas | ya |
| 11:40 | see here http://74.124.193.68:8008/ | |
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| 11:57 | Archie^ | hey where can i manage shelfs in koha? |
| 11:57 | kidclamp | check 'DocumentRoot' in the apache settings maybe coyas? |
| 11:57 | Archie^: You mean Lists? | |
| 11:59 | coyas | kidclamp: what i am looking for in DocumentRoot |
| 12:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #615: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/615/ |
| 12:03 | Archie^ | kidclamp: i dont know, im looking items.location (marc21xml 952.C ) and i'm not sure should i add them separately for every library? |
| 12:04 | kidclamp | ah, those are in authorised values - category LOC |
| 12:04 | you can set branch limits for the values I bleiee | |
| 12:04 | coyas: make sure the path is correct and exists? | |
| 12:05 | coyas: I am not sure, just checking what I can think of | |
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| 12:05 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 12:06 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:06 | coyas | yes |
| 12:06 | hi | |
| 12:06 | wahanui | que tal, coyas |
| 12:06 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:07 | coyas | eu tenho o koha em catalogos.bn.cv mas o DocumentRoot /var/www/html |
| 12:07 | documentroot esta em outrolugar | |
| 12:07 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #104: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/104/ |
| 12:08 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
| 12:08 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:08 | andreashm | hi oleonard marcelr |
| 12:09 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:11 | magnuse | any users of the EDS plugin around yet? i get this error: {"DetailedErrorDescription":"Invalid IP.","ErrorDescription":"Invalid IP","ErrorNumber":"139"} so i wonder if i have the wrong IP addresses, or something |
| 12:12 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #113: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/113/ |
| 12:13 | ere | magnuse: Not with Koha, but I believe that means the IP address of the Koha server is not allowed in EDS |
| 12:14 | Archie^ | kidclamp: can you be more specific. What is LOC? |
| 12:14 | magnuse | ere: the plugin has a setting where you enter some ip addresses, so i am not sure |
| 12:15 | oleonard | Archie^: "LOC" is the code used in authorized values to define shelf locations |
| 12:16 | Archie^ | ya but the question is: do i need to modify them somewhere in GUI? |
| 12:16 | oleonard | Administration -> Authorized values -> Select "LOC" from the dropdown |
| 12:17 | Archie^ | aye thnx :) great help as always |
| 12:18 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 12:33 | coyas | how is suppose to be a DocumentRoot for koha |
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| 12:38 | coyas | anyone |
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| 12:50 | magnuse | coyas: are you installing with the debian packages? |
| 12:51 | coyas | no |
| 12:51 | manually in centOS | |
| 12:52 | is almost done | |
| 12:53 | Archie^ | hey if i check out a book where can i see that on DB level? |
| 12:53 | oleonard | Archie^: The issues table |
| 12:53 | Archie^ | right, freaking forgot |
| 12:53 | magnuse | coyas: the debian packages has "DocumentRoot /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs" and "DocumentRoot /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs" |
| 12:53 | coyas | ok |
| 12:54 | it give me this error | |
| 12:54 | [Tue Nov 20 10:36:20 2018] 404.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'bncv_db0.systempreferences' doesn't exist [for Statement "SELECT `me`.`variable`, `me`.`value`, `me`.`options`, `me`.`explanation`, `me`.`type` FROM `systempreferences` `me` WHERE ( `me`.`variable` = ? )" with ParamValues: 0='template'] at /usr/share/koha/lib/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1836. | |
| 12:54 | [Tue Nov 20 10:36:20 2018] 404.pl: bad template path | |
| 12:54 | i think that db will be populate in web installer | |
| 12:55 | but here it ask me for table bd.systempreferences | |
| 12:55 | who know about this | |
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| 12:58 | oleonard | coyas: The web installer should have populated the database. If you're missing the systempreferences table the installation process didn't finish correctly |
| 12:58 | coyas | ok |
| 12:59 | what can i do to make this right, to create an this systempreferences tables? | |
| 13:01 | oleonard | coyas: If it were me I would be concerned about what other aspects of the installation failed and I would drop/recreate the database and run the installer again |
| 13:01 | tcohen | ih |
| 13:01 | andreashm | hi tcohen |
| 13:03 | coyas | do you have any document that will teach me install it manually (using make, make install, install in etc/koha, usr/share/koha, ...) |
| 13:03 | without using apt-get or others package managers | |
| 13:04 | oleonard | coyas: You might find something on the wiki https://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 13:05 | coyas | they will not help me |
| 13:06 | only support debian and it's derivatives | |
| 13:06 | ashimema | `perl Makefile.PL` -> `make` -> `make install` |
| 13:07 | oleonard | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]arch=centos&go=Go |
| 13:07 | ashimema | not all that much more to it.. |
| 13:07 | the first step will ask you questions to get the initial configuration | |
| 13:10 | coyas | ok, how i will install this ins /etc/koha and /usr/share/koha |
| 13:10 | this steps is not in these articles | |
| 13:13 | ashimema | the `make install` will do that so long as you chose the `production` option during the `perl Makefile.PL` stage |
| 13:13 | sorry.. `standard` not `production`.. it's been a while since I did it | |
| 13:20 | magnuse | kidclamp: do you happen to know what should go in the "IP Addresses" setting of the EDS plugin? |
| 13:21 | coyas | to install koha manually i need to create the database or will be created automatically? |
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| 13:27 | tcohen | coyas: you need to create it, and create a DB user with permissions on that DB |
| 13:27 | then do the perl Makefile.PL step | |
| 13:27 | specifying those db/user/pass | |
| 13:27 | ashimema | you'll need to create the database I believe |
| 13:27 | coyas | i have a problem with this perls module |
| 13:28 | a lot dependence | |
| 13:29 | eythian | there is/was a script that'd do a lot of the dependency installing for you. |
| 13:30 | oleonard | coyas: The information on the wiki about installing on CentOS may refer to an older version of Koha but it does contain useful information like: Creating the database |
| 13:30 | coyas | ok |
| 13:30 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 13:30 | coyas | i have centOS in vagrant to do the test |
| 13:33 | Freddy_Enrique | Greetings everyone |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | magnuse - it is the ip for the server if using ip based authentication (as opposed to username/password) in configuration |
| 13:37 | I tihnk? | |
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| 13:48 | marcelr | hi kidclamp |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | hi marcelr |
| 13:48 | marcelr | kidclamp: need any further light on 21774 |
| 13:48 | ? | |
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| 13:49 | kidclamp | no, I will push, I won't like it |
| 13:49 | marcelr | the pipe was there in the past too |
| 13:50 | kidclamp | blech |
| 13:50 | marcelr | it was/is hardcoded even |
| 13:50 | kidclamp | confusing too that the fields are combined on next edit |
| 13:50 | marcelr | you should check that |
| 13:51 | i think that it is not correct; i have two fields | |
| 13:51 | kidclamp | but if I were to pitch a fit about every piece of koha I don't like, we'd be here a while |
| 13:51 | let me double check | |
| 13:51 | marcelr | yes |
| 13:51 | restart plack etc | |
| 13:54 | kidclamp | hmm...separet fields now |
| 13:54 | marcelr | thats what i would expect yes |
| 13:55 | kidclamp | what about fields tied to authorized values? |
| 13:55 | marcelr | i tested ccode |
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| 13:55 | marcelr | and it worked |
| 13:56 | no exception for av | |
| 13:56 | kidclamp | i tired with $j tied to stack and is not working |
| 13:56 | marcelr | hmm but you cant reproduce now? |
| 13:56 | kidclamp | reproducing no |
| 13:56 | reproducing now | |
| 13:56 | testing with ccode | |
| 13:57 | doesn't work for me | |
| 13:58 | marcelr | kidclamp: let me try again first now |
| 13:58 | latest master.. | |
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| 14:00 | kidclamp | oh, working now |
| 14:01 | not sure what I did there | |
| 14:01 | marcelr | kidclamp: it works for me |
| 14:01 | clone a field, save open again | |
| 14:01 | * kidclamp | pushes the thing and hides |
| 14:01 | marcelr | for cloning you need repeatable in fw |
| 14:02 | where it gets interesting is bug 21800 | |
| 14:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21800 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , TransformKohaToMarc should respect non-repeatability of item subfields |
| 14:02 | marcelr | we should solve that somehow in next release and backport |
| 14:02 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21774: Cloned item subfields disappear when editing an item <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b611714ea4c72771d> |
| 14:02 | marcelr | kind of an enhancement of old behavior |
| 14:03 | barton | morning all! |
| 14:03 | marcelr | hi barton |
| 14:03 | kidclamp | sorry for the troubles marcel |
| 14:03 | greenjimll | Hello - dev meeting? |
| 14:03 | marcelr | np kidclamp |
| 14:04 | hi greenjimll | |
| 14:04 | no idea about a meeting | |
| 14:04 | greenjimll | Oh... I have a Development IRC meeting in my calendar for 14:00 UTC. |
| 14:04 | barton | thanks for mentionioning it greenjimll, that's why I'm here. :-) |
| 14:04 | greenjimll | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_21_November_2018 |
| 14:04 | kidclamp | yes, meeting |
| 14:04 | one moment | |
| 14:05 | #startmeeting | |
| 14:05 | huginn | kidclamp: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018 |
| 14:05 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 21 14:05:31 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:05 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:05 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:05 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_21_november_2018' |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 14:05 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions |
| 14:06 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, ByWaterSolutions |
| 14:06 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum NL |
| 14:06 | greenjimll | #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:07 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | anybody? |
| 14:07 | greenjimll | nothing from me. |
| 14:08 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi |
| 14:08 | barton | morning tcohen |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | #topic Update from the Release Manager |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | #info Release is coming along - combing through the release notes and the majors and above in bugzilla to fix whatever we can |
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| 14:10 | kidclamp | #info possibly considering 21826/19365 - would be nice to fix this, but don't want to cause issues this close to release |
| 14:10 | any exytra QA eyes on those bugs would be appreciated | |
| 14:10 | bug 21826 | |
| 14:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Passed QA , Automatic authority record generation improvements |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | bug 19365 |
| 14:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19365 major, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Passed QA , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl doesn't work with Elasticsearch |
| 14:10 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe |
| 14:10 | * ashimema | got the time confused |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | thanks to all for lots of hard work, looking forward to sending this one out the door |
| 14:11 | that's all from me, just thank you again to all | |
| 14:12 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 14:12 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:12 | kidclamp | ashimema: fridolin |
| 14:12 | wahanui | well, fridolin is indeed, but maybe not on Rmain 18.11 |
| 14:12 | ashimema | I have a test failing (selenium) which I'm working on a fix for |
| 14:13 | otherwise, we're not in bad shape for the next (and my final) 18.05.x release | |
| 14:13 | I'm steady at 50 commits behind master right now.. bit I think the majority of those are enhancements | |
| 14:13 | fridolin | yep |
| 14:13 | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France | |
| 14:14 | ashimema | #info 18.05.x branch has one current failing test.. I believe it's the test rather than the feature that's failing |
| 14:14 | greenjimll | I hate it when tests do that! |
| 14:14 | ashimema | #info 18.05.x is currently 50 commits begind master, but the majority of those are enhancements and as such won't be backported |
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| 14:15 | ashimema | #info 18.05.x is otherwise on target for release next week |
| 14:15 | fridolin | I have selenium not configured in Jenkins for 17.11.x |
| 14:15 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:15 | fridolin | otherwise its OK, a bit late on 18.05 backports |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | thanks guys, anything else? |
| 14:16 | ashimema | not from me :) |
| 14:16 | fridolin | I'm ok |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | #inf 17.11 is a bit behind but coming along, releases on target for release next week |
| 14:17 | #topci Updates from the QA team | |
| 14:17 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 14:17 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | cait around? |
| 14:17 | Joubu: marcelr Josef_moravec alex_a jajm | |
| 14:17 | marcelr | no updates |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | khall tcohen |
| 14:18 | #info The QA team is awesome, bugs get QAed, things get fixed, the people are happy | |
| 14:19 | moving on | |
| 14:19 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 14:19 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:19 | tcohen | .-D |
| 14:19 | kidclamp | anything? |
| 14:19 | greenjimll | I like bz-splitter! |
| 14:19 | marcelr | bug 21336 needs SO |
| 14:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21336 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , GDPR: Handle unsubscribe requests automatically by optional (administrative) lock, anonymize and remove |
| 14:19 | barton | greenjimll++ |
| 14:19 | ashimema | bz-splitter needs a little love to stop it from crashing frequently.. |
| 14:20 | greenjimll | Going to be useful for bug-wrangling though to easily spot bugs that might need a nudge. |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | #info bug 21336 could use attention GDPR |
| 14:20 | #info splitter is an amazing tool, could use some attention to keep it running | |
| 14:21 | what does it need ashimema - code work or server help? | |
| 14:21 | greenjimll | I take it 21336 will be a 19.05 thing now? |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | indeed |
| 14:22 | greenjimll | Be good to get bug 20028 sorted out for the same release (other side of GDPR coin) |
| 14:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, J.P.Knight, Failed QA , Export all patron related personal data in one package |
| 14:22 | ashimema | code work |
| 14:23 | seems to crash whenever an ipv6 address hits it | |
| 14:23 | Joubu and I are both aware but haven't been able to personally replicate | |
| 14:23 | and neither of us have time at the minute to investigate further. | |
| 14:23 | we'll get to it at some point ;) | |
| 14:24 | kidclamp | cool |
| 14:24 | moving on? | |
| 14:24 | ashimema | yup |
| 14:24 | kidclamp | #info bug 20028 is a good candidate for 19.05 too |
| 14:24 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 14:24 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:24 | kidclamp | barton? |
| 14:24 | barton | right. |
| 14:25 | So I wrote the notices and slips wiki page, and that's sort of been the backbone of the notices and slips documentation for a while. | |
| 14:25 | cait | sorry, almost missed the meeting |
| 14:26 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
| 14:26 | barton | you made it for the good part ;-). |
| 14:27 | anyway, I entered bug 21858 to move my work off the wiki into POD. | |
| 14:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , RFC: Notices and slips documentation |
| 14:27 | barton | ... and I'd like to create a coding guideline that says that any new notices need to be documented. |
| 14:27 | greenjimll | POD is good. Literate programming. |
| 14:28 | cait | I'd like to suggest not using POD in favor of manual patches |
| 14:28 | POD is used in our files atm, but not as standalone separte from methods like this suggestion | |
| 14:28 | it would require manual people to replicate for the manual reading the POD file | |
| 14:28 | ashimema | I like POD for within modules and aimed at developers... for user facing stuff a manual patch |
| 14:28 | that's my opinion | |
| 14:28 | if POD is just feeding Manual.. then it's always going to get out of sync | |
| 14:28 | marcelr | yeah pod may not be the best place here |
| 14:29 | cait | we are terribly at keeping thing in sync |
| 14:29 | barton | I've got 5 people at bywater who are *itching* to get notices stuff into the manual. I'm not worried about carrying that over. |
| 14:29 | ashimema | but I certianly DO like the idea of it being a guideline to state manual merge requests should accompany bugzilla submissions (whenever apropriate) |
| 14:30 | barton | getting devs to document the intent of the notices is the hard part. |
| 14:31 | ashimema | we already require POD updates for changes to and additions of methods/subs |
| 14:31 | so how is this different to that.. | |
| 14:31 | marcelr | managing devs is hard |
| 14:31 | cait | getting devs to documet is hard, but I think it's not too much to ask |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | I would agree, manual is a better place |
| 14:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #616: SUCCESS in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/616/ |
| 14:32 | ashimema | needs to continue to be something easy for QA'ers to spot and fail patches for.. having an entirely separate POD file that collates notices docs is going to be hard to spot when missing.. |
| 14:32 | or did I misunderstand the request? | |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | this pod could all go into the individual scripts/module too, no? Then it would need to be maintained by devs without being a sepearate file? |
| 14:33 | cait | not os easily |
| 14:33 | ashimema | that's where I would aim for |
| 14:33 | barton | Ok, so I created a separate file, *mostly* so that I had something to show people. |
| 14:33 | cait | i mean it's pretty spread out in the code right no |
| 14:33 | w | |
| 14:33 | but methods shoudl be documented | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | if a Dev adds a notice then there's going to be an associated method/sub somewhere for that notice.. that's where the POD documentation should go.. |
| 14:34 | cait | yep |
| 14:34 | barton | ... but I'm not stuck on the pod. As long as it's documented somewhere, and we have a coding guideline, I'm happy. |
| 14:34 | cait | i think converting your work already done for the manual would be great |
| 14:35 | it's a good template too | |
| 14:35 | greenjimll | I get the feeling that the proliferation of syntaxes is also an issue in this case, because individual devs haven't necessarily seen what others have done? Or am I misunderstanding? |
| 14:35 | ashimema | that is then something manual maints can use to construct the manual updates from (and that's actualy where a new guideline would be good encouraging devs to at least setup a stub manual merge request for the needed docs update) |
| 14:35 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #105: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/105/ |
| 14:35 | kidclamp | we don't have a guideline requiring manual patches, but I think QA at least suggests for new features, no? |
| 14:35 | barton | ^^ what greenjimll said. |
| 14:36 | ashimema | I know I do ;) |
| 14:36 | barton | The documentation *needs* to be centralized. |
| 14:36 | greenjimll | How do we submit a manual patch for something that hasn't yet been signed off/passed QA (and so may change radically) |
| 14:37 | cait | you can do it and mark it WIP |
| 14:37 | ashimema | well.. for 'Stock Rotation' for example I marked it with WIP |
| 14:37 | cait | or you could write up a note on the release notes that is nice and clear for a start |
| 14:37 | greenjimll | OK, is that process documented? |
| 14:37 | ashimema | and noted it was awaiting final QA of the bug |
| 14:37 | not that I know of.. | |
| 14:37 | that's where a new guildeline could come in | |
| 14:38 | * ashimema | would love to automate some of it somehow.. but hasn't got that far |
| 14:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #114: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/114/ |
| 14:38 | * ashimema | actually submitted a WIP merge request with just titles to start with.. then got his customer services team to write the human facing first draft (which I then maintained whilst the bug went through QA) |
| 14:39 | cait | :) |
| 14:40 | would someone be willing to write up the pod to a manual merge request? | |
| 14:40 | some of it might already be documented | |
| 14:40 | i think we at least have an explanation for the notices code | |
| 14:40 | s | |
| 14:40 | kidclamp | sounds like consensus is move this bug to master, consider a guideline for manual patches when submitting new features/ changing existing features? |
| 14:41 | cait | +1 |
| 14:41 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:41 | greenjimll | Er, I thought I was in the minority in liking POD in a file (which is what this bug does at the moment)? |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | Does someone want to draft that for next meeting and send out to lists for opinion? |
| 14:41 | barton | I can talk to bywater's education team; jzairo or donna. |
| 14:42 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:43 | barton | +1 |
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| 14:44 | greenjimll | I'm not clear what folk are +1'ing? Getting 21858 pushed to master? |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | #action Barton will see about getting a guideline for manual patches drafted and send to community |
| 14:44 | thd | greenjimll: While I do not know where the majority stands, I think past difficulties have been about outdated POD not being updated. |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | greenjimll: I think to move it to manual and consider a guideline to require manual changes |
| 14:44 | marcelr | yes, move it to the manual |
| 14:45 | greenjimll | kidclamp: Ah, you said, " move this bug to master" and confused me. |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | hah, I meant manual |
| 14:45 | * kidclamp | looks around for more coffee |
| 14:45 | greenjimll | In which case, +1 |
| 14:46 | marcelr | first write a proposed guideline ? |
| 14:46 | barton | I'll take care of that. |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | barton++ |
| 14:47 | ashimema | barton++ |
| 14:47 | it's great having manual improvements happening again :) | |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | #agreed bug 21858 will be converted a patch for manual, barton will get a guideline for manual submissions drafted |
| 14:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , RFC: Notices and slips documentation |
| 14:48 | marcelr | barton++ |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | anything else? or set next meeting? |
| 14:48 | barton | I'm good. Veni Vidi Documentii |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | #topci Set time of next meeting |
| 14:49 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 14:49 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 21 November 2018) | |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | December 12? is three weeks, but avoids general meeting overlap, or combine the two on december 5th? |
| 14:50 | two meetings is too many | |
| 14:50 | marcelr | not on same date |
| 14:50 | greenjimll | 12th works for me (I assume this will be an evening one in UTC)? |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | December 12, 20 UTC? |
| 14:51 | greenjimll | +1 |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | yup, we alternate |
| 14:51 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting: 12 December 2018, 20 UTC |
| 14:52 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:52 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 14:52 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 21 14:52:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:52 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-21-14.05.html | |
| 14:52 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-11-21-14.05.txt | |
| 14:52 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]21-14.05.log.html | |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | Thanks all! |
| 14:52 | greenjimll | Thanks folks! |
| 14:53 | ashimema | ta |
| 14:54 | marcelr | did we solve all the bugs? |
| 14:54 | cait | i hope so :) |
| 14:54 | marcelr | ashimema: 21774 is for you now |
| 14:55 | cait | knocked out by a cold again... be back soon |
| 14:55 | marcelr | cait++ |
| 14:55 | ashimema | ta.. will grab it soon |
| 14:55 | just fighting with SOAP at the minute | |
| 14:55 | marcelr | hopefully for next release |
| 14:55 | cait | ew |
| 14:56 | ashimema | it'll certainly be in the next point release |
| 14:56 | marcelr | great |
| 15:01 | sorry kidclamp ashimema but temporarily moving 21826 to fqa | |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | thanks for looking there |
| 15:02 | ashimema | ta for looking marcelr :) |
| 15:03 | marcelr | was forced by kidclamp ;) |
| 15:04 | * kidclamp | flexes his RM muscles |
| 15:04 | marcelr | kidclamp++ |
| 15:04 | when do you exactly release ? | |
| 15:04 | still 26th | |
| 15:04 | kidclamp | 27th |
| 15:05 | marcelr | ok |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | we are on holiday after today so will finsih up monday so mirko can do magic |
| 15:06 | marcelr | let me qa 100 bugs on friday |
| 15:06 | kidclamp | please! |
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| 15:10 | * ashimema | goes on the next school run.. brb |
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| 15:16 | ithan | having error - 4 signatures not checked due to missing keys |
| 15:17 | while adding gpg key - wget -q -O- https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add - | |
| 15:17 | please help | |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Sorry to have missed the meeting AND to have forgotten to /away myself |
| 15:43 | y'all probably thought I was deliberately ignoring you | |
| 15:45 | eythian | you shoulda seen the backchannel abuse you were getting! |
| 15:46 | oleonard | I felt a great disturbance in the Force. |
| 15:50 | barton | millions of bibs screaming out in terror and then were silenced? |
| 15:51 | oleonard | It was millions of sick burns |
| 16:03 | eythian | oleonard: http://wondermark.com/c1414/ and just keep pressing next for more sick elephants |
| 16:07 | (i warn you, it eventually devolves into terrible puns.) | |
| 16:08 | hence I thought it might be your sort of thing. | |
| 16:11 | oleonard | I'm not sure I like what you are insinuating, sir |
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| 16:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:28 | tuxayo | eythian: I like the humor and visual style, thanks for sharing this ^^ |
| 16:28 | ashimema | +1 |
| 16:28 | made me giggle | |
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| 16:51 | greenjimll | Ah, git bz is deciding to not play nicely with SSL certificates on my Kohadevbox. This'll be a fun fix. |
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| 16:55 | oleonard | Bug 21758 is a simple template fix... Good quick signoff I hope? |
| 16:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21758 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Navigation in Z39.50 result pages not working in Acquisitions |
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| 17:00 | greenjimll | vagrant provision solves the git bz issue (just in case anyone searches for it in the future and finds this IRC log) |
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| 17:41 | oleonard | khall: Could we get a test plan on Bug 21495? |
| 17:41 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21495 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Regression in hold override functionality |
| 17:57 | oleonard | Why does the ILL header menu item appear on some pages and not others? |
| 17:57 | cait | bug? |
| 17:57 | wahanui | i think bug is quite fun as it happens randomly, I guess that's why I closed it few months ago |
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| 18:17 | oleonard | Good job wahanui, nice to see you fixing some bugs |
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| 18:34 | ashimema | Hehe |
| 19:08 | oleonard | My fellow Americans, enjoy your day off tomorrow. I'll be back Tuesday. |
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| 22:42 | ithan | hi |
| 22:42 | wahanui | salut, ithan |
| 22:43 | ithan | i need help |
| 22:46 | when i issue command "wget -q -O- https://debian.koha-community.org/koha/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -", i got some messages 4 signatures not checked due to missing keys, sub B2A08A65DF7647F2 duplicate signatures removed, 157 signatures not checked due to missing keys, 1 signature not checked due to a missing key ---- is this error ? can we ignore it or need attention --- please help | |
| 22:49 | hi, wahaniui | |
| 22:50 | hi wahanui | |
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| 22:53 | ithan | is there anyone to help |
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