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| 06:41 | fridolin | yop |
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| 07:23 | ashimema | Mornin' |
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| 07:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:36 | josef_moravec | hi marcelr, ashimema, fridolin ;) |
| 07:36 | marcelr | hi josef_moravec |
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| 07:42 | * cait | waves |
| 07:42 | cait | bbiab |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:43 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
| 07:50 | * fridolin | pushing in 17.11.x |
| 07:50 | fridolin | ashimema: its raining commits in stable branches ;) |
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| 07:53 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:53 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
| 08:04 | marcelr | fridolin: it was so dry this summer.. |
| 08:07 | matts | hi |
| 08:07 | wahanui | bonjour, matts |
| 08:14 | fridolin | XD |
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| 08:25 | ere | hi cait! Re bug 21793, that reminds me.. there are like a million different ways the fields in ES are named and I'm tempted to just take a sweep and unify them all.. |
| 08:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21793 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Inconsistences between search fields and mappings |
| 08:27 | ere | This would probably be the time to do it since the ES changes will require reindexing anyway. |
| 08:29 | ashimema | Hehe, indeed |
| 08:29 | Keeping up with kidclamp this week has been 'fun'.. haha | |
| 08:30 | Backports are starting to get a bit more involved too now. These filters are driving me nuts, hehe | |
| 08:30 | Still, it's gonna be another bumper bugfix release.. these branches are getting good and mature now | |
| 08:31 | Guest2299 | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #113: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/113/ |
| 08:32 | ashimema | I'm stuck on a nasty one at the minute.. gotta downgrade my mariadb version to make the test happy locally. |
| 08:32 | ere | ashimema: I can only imagine the 'fun' |
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| 08:45 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:46 | ere | hi andreashm |
| 08:46 | andreashm | hi ere! |
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| 08:50 | unaise | hai, there is any possibilities to get all information about a document in koha opac at its first window |
| 09:01 | * andreashm | has never noticed the holds_fill_targets table before. anyone know the point of this table? |
| 09:02 | cait | i think it's related to holds_queue |
| 09:02 | storing the information about who has to pick what, as it can change with every run of hte job | |
| 09:06 | andreashm | cait: thx |
| 09:07 | cait | np |
| 09:10 | andreashm | I wonder why we have data in that table... we don't run that job. |
| 09:10 | Maybe old stuff. No timestamp in that table. | |
| 09:11 | cait | it might beold yes |
| 09:13 | andreashm | nope, seems recent |
| 09:13 | and looking at dev servers that has somewhat older data, there are rows there too. | |
| 09:14 | is there anything else that adds data here? item-level holds in general or something? | |
| 09:18 | ah, it could be the hold_itemtype_limit? | |
| 09:36 | where is khall when you need him? ;-) | |
| 09:36 | @seen khall | |
| 09:36 | huginn | andreashm: khall was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <khall> cait: I love it, get oleonard on that stat! |
| 09:40 | cait | I wonder what that was about |
| 09:40 | andreashm: are you sure about the job not running? | |
| 09:41 | it could have reactivated as it's in the standard cron | |
| 09:43 | andreashm | cait: oh, in what cron? |
| 09:43 | cait | I think it runs hourly |
| 09:44 | andreashm | ah yes, there it is |
| 09:44 | cait | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d1e33dd8e56a467c8 |
| 09:44 | andreashm | was looking at daily |
| 09:44 | makes sense then | |
| 09:44 | cait | shoudl not hurt you |
| 09:44 | we have it running for all libraries, but most don't use it | |
| 09:44 | andreashm | ok |
| 09:44 | cait | the holds queue report that is |
| 09:44 | andreashm | yeah, we don't use holds to pull |
| 09:45 | cait | holds queue |
| 09:45 | holds to pull is something else :) | |
| 09:45 | andreashm | bah. =) |
| 09:46 | well, I don't think we use that report either | |
| 09:48 | I wonder if I should turn it off. | |
| 09:53 | cait | you could, I think |
| 09:56 | Archie^ | Hi Koha! is there a table in which i can see if a borrower has borrowed any books (or if library lended out any books) ? |
| 09:56 | josef_moravec | Archie^: probably old_issues |
| 09:57 | Archie^ | i mean if i as a customer check out a book, where will it be seen? |
| 09:59 | josef_moravec | Archie^: do you mean from opac? There is a link "your reading history" |
| 09:59 | Archie^ | no i mean from Database perspective |
| 09:59 | if a customer comes into the library, checks out a book | |
| 10:00 | josef_moravec | so the it is old_issues and issues tables the latter is for current checkouts, the first is for returned checkouts |
| 10:03 | Archie^ | ahh thanks |
| 10:23 | coyas joined #koha | |
| 10:23 | coyas | hello koha world |
| 10:27 | magnuse | hello coyas! |
| 10:35 | coyas | i need a help with something |
| 10:35 | i have a dedicated server and i need to install koha | |
| 10:35 | i need advise | |
| 10:36 | josef_moravec | coyas: hi, what is the OS of that server? In which state are you now? |
| 10:37 | coyas | i am from cape verde islands, africa |
| 10:37 | i am using inmotionhosting.com (dedicated server) | |
| 10:40 | josef_moravec | coyas: but which operating system do you have installed on that server? If any... if not, you will need to install one first |
| 10:40 | ashimema | you might struggle with CentOS.. we're very Debian centric with packages etc built for it.. |
| 10:40 | it will run on CentOS, but you'll need to do a fairly significant amount of work yourself to get it working in that environment (and it's not officially supported by the community and as such you won't get as much support here) | |
| 10:41 | * ashimema | got CentOS from the hosting company blerb.. you might not be on CentOS at all? |
| 10:48 | marcelr | no centos for me |
| 10:53 | ashimema | we ran centos way back when |
| 10:53 | but it's been a decade since I've used it ;) | |
| 10:55 | marcelr | you dont like to install koha on centos |
| 10:55 | ashimema | did we loose coyas |
| 10:55 | marcelr | we scared him |
| 10:55 | ashimema | oops |
| 10:55 | I thought I was being helpful ;) | |
| 10:56 | marcelr | you are |
| 10:56 | ashimema | our first customers we on centos.. was fun getting stuff to build on it.. |
| 11:05 | AndrewIsh | I just pulled latest master and got a bunch of "Perl modules missing" messages from the Web installer. Never seen that before, should I just install them manually? |
| 11:05 | coyas | no i am justing, looking if is possible to change to server OS to debian |
| 11:06 | the server OS to debian | |
| 11:07 | marcelr | coyas: it would be the best choice |
| 11:07 | coyas | what i am trying to do is more than install koha |
| 11:07 | ashimema | `apt install koha-perldeps` AndrewIsh (IRC) |
| 11:07 | AndrewIsh | Thanks ashimema |
| 11:08 | * ashimema | seems to remember you already have the package repos setup on that dev server |
| 11:08 | AndrewIsh | I'll check |
| 11:08 | ashimema | you 'might' want to check your sources.list.d that your tracking the nightly/dev track |
| 11:09 | I've been giving people this link allot lately: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]p_package_sources | |
| 11:09 | for dev I set my to `unstable`.. means you get dependancy updates as soon as Mirko packages them up :) | |
| 11:10 | Archie^ | what is the table that let's me see how many copies of books are left in a library? biblio has no information that regard |
| 11:12 | ashimema | erm.. items I think |
| 11:14 | Archie^ | well that complicates things |
| 11:15 | i have a database of different system that has something similar to "table_a contains marc21xml" "table_b contains number of copies in library and id to table_a" | |
| 11:16 | so i migrated all marc21xml copies of into koha, but now i need to somehow modify the amount items in library | |
| 11:17 | josef_moravec | Archie^: The best way to insert records and items is through stage/import tools |
| 11:17 | from GUI | |
| 11:18 | Archie^ | yah i did that |
| 11:18 | josef_moravec | Archie^: so what's wrong? The record does not contain items? |
| 11:18 | ashimema | it should handle items for you |
| 11:18 | Archie^ | but table_a contains only singular marc21xml records so KOHA sees them as singular aswell |
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| 11:19 | josef_moravec | Archie^: what is the source of these records? |
| 11:19 | Archie^ | a different system that i'm trying to migrate into koha |
| 11:19 | josef_moravec | maybe they have items in different marc field? |
| 11:20 | if so, you can handle it and import | |
| 11:21 | Archie^ | im thinking maybe koha has some 9xx field that correlates to "amount of items" ? |
| 11:21 | ashimema | you need field per item |
| 11:22 | josef_moravec | Archie^: somehow, koha has field 952, it is repetable and every field is one item |
| 11:22 | ashimema | I'm sure we've pointed you to these a few times already |
| 11:22 | andreashm | Archie^: does the old system have information about each item/copy (barcodes, or other id etc?) or just a value on copies that are connected to the marcxml? |
| 11:22 | * ashimema | goes back to release maintanence.. thanks for advicing josef :) |
| 11:22 | marcelr | ashimema: yet another PQA but not that comfortable.. |
| 11:23 | josef_moravec | if the other system has items in another field, you can remap it in koha, or transofrm it in marcedit before importing into koha |
| 11:23 | marcelr | 21608 holds |
| 11:23 | andreashm | each physical copy (=item) needs it's own row, not just a value |
| 11:26 | ashimema | I know the feeling on that one marcelr.. it's an area of code I'm not confident in at all regarding the foundations |
| 11:26 | it's ripe for a run on building a tonne more tests and then refactoring the heck out of. | |
| 11:27 | * josef_moravec | thinks C4::Reserves needs much attention :( |
| 11:27 | ashimema | totally agree.. perhaps a target for next cycle |
| 11:27 | andreashm | yes indeed |
| 11:28 | reserves and accountlines are the areas that would need the most improvement in my opinion. | |
| 11:28 | ashimema | I've already got 'Recalls' a the top of my list for next cycle (along with the accounts tree I've built) |
| 11:28 | andreashm | lost of issues in regards to those two in the library here |
| 11:28 | ashimema | I think reserves/recalls should be written as a single well through feature myself.. not two very distinct things |
| 11:29 | accountlines is moving forward fairly nicely now at least.. with Tomas, Yourself (josef) and I all attacking it I feel we're moving in the right direction | |
| 11:29 | many hands and all that | |
| 11:32 | andreashm | anyplace one can get an overview of whats being done in regards to accounts/accountlines? |
| 11:32 | * andreashm | feel that how it is displayed in the UI needs some serious UX work |
| 11:33 | ashimema | right at this particular moment we're working through cleaning up backend code there andreashm.. but I'm all ears for UI/UX improvements.. sure we could onboard Owen ;) |
| 11:33 | josef_moravec | andreashm: see bug 14825 |
| 11:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Accounts Rewrite Omnibus |
| 11:34 | ashimema | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=14825 for the scary dependancy tree |
| 11:34 | andreashm | josef_moravec: thanks! I think I've looked there, but found it hard to see how all the pieces fit together |
| 11:34 | ashimema | there's a bunch of stuff hanging off 21002 which I intend to get moving straight after 18.11 release |
| 11:35 | Joubu | andreashm: you should ask tcohen or khall |
| 11:35 | and hi #koha | |
| 11:35 | * andreashm | just think he might have burnt his eyes from looking at that graph! =) |
| 11:36 | ashimema | allot of it is about pushing the functionality which currently spread all over koha's codebase into a couple of well formed modules and then using those everywhere.. stop us re-inventing the wheel so often and missing bits when doing so |
| 11:36 | then enhanceing on top of that | |
| 11:36 | that's the plan anyways.. | |
| 11:36 | andreashm | Joubu: that's what I usually do! =) |
| 11:36 | sounds like a good plan. | |
| 11:36 | I'll put in on my (way to long) todo list to rwview and see whre/if we can possibly help out. | |
| 11:37 | Because it's just to much trouble in that area right now... | |
| 11:38 | review | |
| 11:39 | Reserves page is in sore need of UX too... | |
| 11:39 | * andreashm | should maybe push our UX:er to work with it |
| 12:03 | magnuse | andreashm++ |
| 12:04 | andreashm | magnuse: maybe wait 'til we actually do anything? ;-) |
| 12:04 | Joubu | marcelr: Was your comment on bug 21576 actually for bug 21526? |
| 12:04 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21576 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add a developer script to automatically fix missing filters |
| 12:04 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21526 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , TT variables used to build a link should be uri filtered | |
| 12:06 | * andreashm | has bug 21608 and bug 21680 open on tabs next to each other, went of to read an e-mail, and was then very confused when returning to the browser. maybe it's a good thing it is Friday |
| 12:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21608 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Arranging holds priority with dropdowns is faulty when there are waiting/intransit holds |
| 12:06 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21680 trivial, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Remove dead code C4::Accounts::fixaccounts | |
| 12:19 | andreashm | ashimema: it seems a lot from the graph you posted is on its way into 18.11 |
| 12:20 | ashimema | yup.. |
| 12:20 | but there is more to come :) | |
| 12:23 | andreashm | good good |
| 12:23 | coyas | hi |
| 12:23 | wahanui | what's up, coyas |
| 12:23 | coyas | i'm back |
| 12:23 | andreashm | seems like a lot of it is moving thing to Koha::Account |
| 12:24 | ashimema: any planned changes to the db? or ui? | |
| 12:24 | my focus is of course from the end-user perspective. =) | |
| 12:25 | coyas | will be a nightmare if i change the CentOS to Debian, i will lose cpanel, WHM |
| 12:25 | i don't know how i will configure the server | |
| 12:25 | kkkk | |
| 12:26 | i will try install koha in CentOS | |
| 12:26 | ashimema | most db changes are already there.. account_offsets was a big improvment |
| 12:27 | allot of the work we're doing is to ensure the existing tables are getting properly populated for all cases. | |
| 12:27 | tcohen | hi |
| 12:27 | ashimema | the actions log may have some minor changes in it's content to make it more consistent |
| 12:28 | UI wise.. I've not reached that area at all yet.. but PTFS-E has some improvements they want to make based on top of this.. we have a 'Cash Management' enhancement which a couple of customers have been running for a couple of years now.. it adds tills and cashing up functionality along with change calculation | |
| 12:29 | coyas | this site has same tips https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tos_6.3_x86_64_en |
| 12:29 | ashimema | we couldn't submit it before now because Accounts was such a mess and a fast moving mess at that. |
| 12:30 | indeed coyas.. if you're competant and confortable in CentOS you should be able to run it.. it's just not recommended and you'r unlikely to get much useufl help from here as we're all using Debian (or debian derivatives) these days | |
| 12:30 | the packages built for debian are by in far the easiest way to install and maintain these days | |
| 12:31 | coyas | i am not confortable with centos, i never had used it before |
| 12:32 | i like fedora or debian | |
| 12:37 | my company buy this server | |
| 12:37 | andreashm | hi tcohen! talking accountlines. =) |
| 12:37 | coyas | i hated |
| 12:37 | i hate | |
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| 12:38 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:38 | tcohen | what aboutn accountlines? |
| 12:38 | andreashm | all the work being done there |
| 12:38 | and how we feel the ui needs improvement | |
| 12:39 | tcohen: ^^ | |
| 12:40 | (we=stockholm uni) | |
| 12:41 | ashimema: sounds interesting the work you've done with "cash management". | |
| 12:42 | ashimema | our local council customers love it. |
| 12:43 | though getting the right till drawer to open has been 'challenging' to say the least | |
| 12:43 | Point Of Sale inside a browser is just plain hard | |
| 12:43 | andreashm | =) |
| 12:44 | Guest2299 | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #114: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/114/ |
| 12:53 | Joubu | fridolin: hum, do not you run tests when you backport? |
| 12:54 | fridolin | yep but its something random i thuink |
| 12:54 | Joubu | Can't locate t/lib/Selenium.pm |
| 12:54 | does not sound random | |
| 12:54 | fridolin | ah yep |
| 12:54 | i dont have Selenium but it should be on jenkins | |
| 12:55 | Joubu | it's not a selenium lib, t::lib::Selenium is part of Koha |
| 12:55 | but 17.11.x | |
| 12:56 | * ashimema | tries to always run tests.. but is faliable ;) |
| 12:57 | fridolin | ah ok in src lib/selenium |
| 12:59 | Joubu | fridolin: it's bug 19802 |
| 12:59 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19802 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Move Selenium code to its own module |
| 13:00 | fridolin | thanks |
| 13:00 | Joubu | but not sure it will be backportable easily |
| 13:31 | Guest2299 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #113: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/113/ |
| 13:35 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #115: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/115/ | |
| 13:46 | caroline | good morning everyone! |
| 13:46 | cait | oleonard: hope my rebase was ok for the basket column patch |
| 13:46 | oleonard | If it works it works! |
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| 13:49 | Freddy_Enrique | Greetings koha :) |
| 13:50 | caroline | Hi Freddy_Enrique! |
| 13:50 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi there Caroline |
| 13:52 | cait | oleonard: i thikn i got a bit over-excited late lats night (blames too much tea :) ) |
| 13:53 | Guest2299 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #114: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/114/ |
| 13:55 | oleonard | This authorised value category related to Housebound delivery, HSBND_FREQ, reads "Husband frequency" to me, and... you go girl! |
| 13:56 | Joubu | !jenkins status |
| 13:56 | Guest2299 | Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat! |
| 13:56 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 13:57 | cait | lol |
| 13:59 | Joubu | !jenkins status |
| 13:59 | Guest2299 | Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat! |
| 13:59 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 13:59 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 13:59 | Joubu | ho ho, slow down bots |
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| 14:05 | Archie^ | hey cait can you remind me what was the way to run bulkmarcimport.pl ? |
| 14:06 | cait | -h? |
| 14:07 | koha-jenkins joined #koha | |
| 14:07 | Archie^ | no i mean there was some sort of a bash instance root_password, or something |
| 14:07 | Joubu | !jenkins status |
| 14:07 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:07 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:07 | Joubu | koha-jenkins: status! |
| 14:08 | koha-jenkins: !jenkins status | |
| 14:09 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21413: (QA follow-up) Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6fd50c52f45a068a> |
| 14:09 | Joubu | wt. |
| 14:09 | cait | kshell |
| 14:09 | or koha-shell with the instance name | |
| 14:09 | Archie^ | oh sweet thanks |
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| 14:19 | Joubu | !jenkins abort Koha_Master_U18 |
| 14:19 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:19 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:19 | Joubu | !jenkins build Koha_Master_U18 |
| 14:19 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:19 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:19 | Joubu | you are all stupid bots |
| 14:21 | !jenkins help | |
| 14:21 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:21 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:22 | Joubu | help meeeeeeeee |
| 14:22 | ashimema | Lol |
| 14:22 | oleonard | This is just like the opening sequence of The Terminator! |
| 14:28 | Joubu | Could someone op me? |
| 14:31 | oleonard | magnuse? gmcharlt? ^^ |
| 14:32 | caroline: I'm looking at authorised_values_categories and I notice that some which are inserted by default in Koha are not documented: branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes | |
| 14:32 | magnuse | what should i do? |
| 14:32 | oleonard | caroline: Do you know anything about them? |
| 14:32 | Joubu | thx magnuse |
| 14:33 | oleonard | Perhaps someone else knows why branches, CAND, cn_source, CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, itemtypes are in auth_val_cat.sql but undocumented? |
| 14:33 | Joubu | !jenkins status |
| 14:33 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:33 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:33 | caroline | oleonard: are branches, cn_source and itemtypes really authorised values? |
| 14:33 | * magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 14:33 | caroline | even CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE, I'm not sure I've ever seen that in auth values |
| 14:34 | oleonard | caroline: They are authorised value categories |
| 14:34 | In the authorised_value_categories table | |
| 14:34 | ...which I think may only be used when displaying authorised values in administration | |
| 14:35 | caroline | I think they are populated automatically and used for reports |
| 14:35 | Joubu | !jenkins help |
| 14:35 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 14:35 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 14:35 | caroline | I've never seen them in admin > auth values |
| 14:35 | I'm checking my master now, but in my 18.05 they are not there | |
| 14:37 | * caroline | is going through the whole web installer thing again... ¬_¬ |
| 14:39 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #605: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/605/ |
| 14:40 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 14:40 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #101: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/101/ | |
| 14:40 | oleonard | caroline: Maybe they're not inserted by default after all? I assumed so because auth_val_cat.sql is in data/mysql/mandatory |
| 14:40 | Joubu | they are |
| 14:44 | caroline | going through web installer and I'm missing a Perl Module called "Sys::CPU". If I do sudo cpan Sys::CPU it says Warning: Cannot install Sys::CPU, don't know what it is. is this normal? |
| 14:44 | Its not blocking me from continuing, but I just find it weird | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | I don't know if that indicates a problem with the installation process but you can run 'sudo apt-get install libsys-cpu-perl' to fix it |
| 14:46 | cait | lost track, but are you still wondering about the auth values? |
| 14:47 | branches, itemtypes and cn_source are 'fake' ones - I think because the frameworks treat them as authorised values | |
| 14:47 | the control number one is brand new | |
| 14:47 | a feature for rancor to generate 001 values | |
| 14:47 | caroline | branches and cn_source are not there https://snag.gy/CiQoh3.jpg |
| 14:47 | cait | yes, because you can't change them |
| 14:47 | but if you look at the framework configuration, you can pick them there | |
| 14:48 | caroline | that's what I thought... They are used in reports as well |
| 14:48 | cait | and it will give alistof those things from the other tables |
| 14:48 | correct | |
| 14:48 | but maintained not as an authorised value | |
| 14:48 | caroline | so were just missing CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE in the manual |
| 14:49 | cait | caroline: bug 18418 |
| 14:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add a control number widget |
| 14:49 | cait | for the latter |
| 14:49 | CAND i thinks is some UNIMARC thing | |
| 14:50 | caroline | unimarc... you can always count on it to confuse us ;) |
| 14:50 | cait | nstaller/data/mysql/fr-CA/facultatif/auth_val.sql |
| 14:50 | it appears in the installer for unimarc | |
| 14:50 | hm mor ethe canadian one not unimarc | |
| 14:50 | and prelinekd in the unimarc frameworks: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/unimarc_lecture_pub/Obligatoire/autorites_norme_unimarc.sql:INSERT INTO `auth_subfield_structure` (`authtypecode`, `tagfield`, `tagsubfield`, `liblibrarian`, `libopac`, `repeatable`, `mandatory`, `tab`, `authorised_value`, `value_builder`, `seealso`, `isurl`, `hidden`, `linkid`, `kohafield`, `frameworkcode`) VALUES ('SNC', '250', 'b', 'Statut', '', 0, 0, -1, 'C | |
| 14:50 | AND | |
| 14:51 | caroline | why is it mandatory in english but optional in french? |
| 14:51 | cait | i think because the installers drifted apart... maybe? not sure about that one |
| 14:51 | Joubu | installer files are sometimes wrong |
| 14:52 | caroline | cait: bug 18418 is FQA, is the auth value category added by another bug? |
| 14:52 | Archie^ | hmm if i'm using bulkmarcimport -append -l is there some default drectory logs are stored ? |
| 14:53 | cait | huh |
| 14:53 | could it be a leftover fom earlier testing? | |
| 14:54 | caroline: hm, it hink thereis anotherbug that was pushed | |
| 14:54 | i remember corilynn was working on it | |
| 14:54 | bug 19263 | |
| 14:55 | wahanui | bug 19263 is ready for inspection |
| 14:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, RESOLVED FIXED, Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget |
| 14:55 | cait | dupicate |
| 14:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #94: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/94/ |
| 14:56 | oleonard | Ah so branches, itemtypes and cn_source must be deliberately excluded from the authorised value editor |
| 14:56 | Joubu | yep |
| 14:57 | they are in the table to have a foreign key constraint at DB level | |
| 14:58 | caroline | added CAND and CONTROL_NUM_SEQUENCE to the docs to-do :) |
| 14:59 | oleonard | All of this because I think the authorized values list should look something like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15417755027092 |
| 15:00 | Because if you think about it, the current interface is a weird anomaly. | |
| 15:00 | caroline | cool! |
| 15:00 | Will the button "New auth value for Asort1" be moved to the end of the row? | |
| 15:01 | cait | oleonard: that would not work for translations |
| 15:01 | not easily | |
| 15:01 | i mean we could add the description to the db | |
| 15:01 | caroline | cait why? Isn't the description in the template? |
| 15:01 | cait | but the file for example is not in the installers... it's global (nice) |
| 15:01 | oleonard | cait: Currently the template contains *some* of those descriptions but not all. All we have to do is add the rest and keep them up to date. |
| 15:02 | cait | you can add your own... so maybe a mixed approach |
| 15:02 | i didn't notice the interface contained any :) | |
| 15:02 | having a descrption field for displaying info about the ones you added might be nice | |
| 15:02 | and hte number of entried for each | |
| 15:02 | oleonard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78fc;hb=HEAD#l184 |
| 15:02 | cait | nice! |
| 15:03 | oleonard | Those descriptions do appear on the page when a particular category is selected but it's very unobtrusive. |
| 15:04 | caroline: Yes to your button idea | |
| 15:05 | caroline | I like it, it's much clearer |
| 15:09 | Joubu | oleonard: did you write a patch for the screenshot you sent? |
| 15:09 | oleonard | It's in progress |
| 15:09 | Joubu | great :) |
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| 15:22 | ashimema | poop |
| 15:22 | oh.. | |
| 15:22 | maybe not me | |
| 15:22 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #116: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/116/ |
| 15:28 | ashimema | grr.. dopy typo |
| 15:31 | oleonard around? | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:31 | ashimema | hugs |
| 15:31 | favour? | |
| 15:31 | https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/K[…]1d8f6983b074b2909 | |
| 15:31 | fancy walking me through the sccs => css backport for that? | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | Oh sure, no problem |
| 15:32 | * oleonard | checks |
| 15:33 | ashimema | or I could be super lazy and just not clean up staff-global.css to be entirely honest ;) |
| 15:33 | as no classes actually refer to it after the rest of the patch is backported.. | |
| 15:33 | it just sorta feels a bit naughty | |
| 15:33 | Joubu | ashimema: + user_id => $logged_in_user->id |
| 15:33 | sure about that? | |
| 15:34 | ashimema | pretty sure |
| 15:34 | nope.. not at all | |
| 15:34 | Joubu | you are expecting userid? |
| 15:34 | ashimema | ->borrowernumber |
| 15:34 | oleonard | ashimema: I think this is what you need: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]58dfd180cb68#l995 |
| 15:34 | ashimema | curse our objects/dbic/tables not agreeing with each other. |
| 15:35 | Joubu | ashimema: ok, so yes. That is confusing IMO |
| 15:35 | 'borrowernumber => $logged_in_user->borrowernumber' reads better | |
| 15:35 | (yes I know, you are not adding the new param) | |
| 15:35 | ashimema | oh ffs.. I even tested it.. but entirely forgot to refresh memcached between the config switch |
| 15:36 | * ashimema | thinks the weekend can't come soon enough |
| 15:38 | ashimema | thanks for catching it Joubu |
| 15:38 | Joubu | ashimema: it's ok if you need borrowernumber I'd say |
| 15:40 | accountlines.manager_id is not a FK (??) | |
| 15:40 | ashimema | nope.. seems not |
| 15:41 | Joubu | tcohen: ^ ? |
| 15:41 | ashimema | at least that's what tomas said in the bug |
| 15:42 | * ashimema | needs to work on his pre-commit hook a little |
| 15:42 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #115: UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/115/ |
| 15:42 | ashimema | is what you put on the wiki what you're running with at the moment out of interest Joubu |
| 15:42 | there's some annoyances I'd like to fix | |
| 15:43 | like the experimental use of give and when | |
| 15:43 | and the 'use' statement mis-identification on user_id lines | |
| 15:44 | Joubu | nope I am no longer running it |
| 15:45 | ashimema: when I was RM I used the pre-push hook, from https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]elease_management | |
| 15:45 | ashimema | lol |
| 15:46 | yeah.. I use a slightly adapted pre-push hook | |
| 15:46 | and a pre-commit hook too | |
| 15:47 | Freddy_Enrique | uhm... I can not put arroba here... damn alt+64 |
| 15:47 | Joubu | the pre-commit hook drove me crazy, because I want to `git commit -a -m"wip"` without any checks |
| 15:47 | and quickly | |
| 15:47 | ashimema | fair enough |
| 15:47 | make sense | |
| 15:47 | I tend to 'stash' for that | |
| 15:47 | Joubu | maybe there is a --no-check flag for git commit |
| 15:48 | yeah but then you have 30 stashes and you do not remember which one was the good noe | |
| 15:48 | ashimema | true |
| 15:48 | Joubu | and stash pop on the wrong branch will mess everything up :) |
| 15:48 | ashimema | I also use git worktree |
| 15:49 | so i have in effect two clones at all times (only they don't take up the space of two clones of course) | |
| 15:49 | so I have my longer running work on one branch and then lots of quick throw away branches on the other worktree | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | For me 'git stash list' is like opening a mysterious time capsule which was buried by another person |
| 15:49 | ashimema | hehe |
| 15:50 | know that feeling | |
| 15:51 | Joubu | git stash list|wc -l # 339 |
| 15:51 | oops | |
| 15:51 | ashimema | yowsers |
| 15:51 | eythian | I regularly zap my stash stack |
| 15:51 | ashimema | I have a max of 6 or so |
| 15:52 | eythian | it used to get quite bad when I didn't know that git stash apply wasn't the same as git stash pop |
| 15:52 | oleonard | It's like the books at the bottom of the pile you checked out at the library: You're not getting to those, just return them. |
| 15:52 | Joubu | "I am sure there is something useful I left behind in one of them"... |
| 15:53 | pastebot | Someone at 127.0.0.1 pasted "lol maybe not" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177 |
| 15:56 | Joubu | ashimema: I have no idea why jenkins is not shuting down |
| 15:58 | oleonard | josef_moravec++ |
| 16:01 | ashimema | odd |
| 16:01 | probably because I keep feeding him? | |
| 16:01 | lol | |
| 16:03 | caroline | in accounts.inc, why is there W for Writeoff, but also WO for Writeoff? |
| 16:05 | ashimema | history |
| 16:05 | if you want a Koha dev to cry.. ask them to look at account codes. | |
| 16:05 | ;) | |
| 16:05 | tcohen, josef and I are on a mission to clean that all up though at the moment ;) | |
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| 16:06 | tcohen | indeed |
| 16:06 | caroline | ok thanks... It's just weird when we're translating |
| 16:06 | there's also C and CR for credit | |
| 16:06 | Joubu | !jenkins status |
| 16:06 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 16:06 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 16:06 | Joubu | ok, I give up |
| 16:06 | ashimema | even more wierd when your relying on those code to write code that actions upon them ;) |
| 16:07 | caroline | Joubu: I think jenkins is hiding from you... |
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| 16:08 | ashimema | I think Jenkins has a full belly from all the code kidclamp, fridolin and I are feeding him at the minute |
| 16:08 | caroline | is it because he changed his name to koha-jenkins that it's not working? |
| 16:09 | Joubu | I changed the name, 'jenkins' is registered and so becomes Guestxxx |
| 16:13 | tcohen | !koha-jenkins: help |
| 16:13 | AnnaBoten | Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command. |
| 16:13 | tcohen | koha-jenkins: help |
| 16:13 | Joubu | the command is !jenkins |
| 16:13 | !jenkins status | |
| 16:13 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 16:13 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 16:14 | tcohen | !koha-jenkins |
| 16:14 | AnnaBoten | Error: "koha-jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 16:14 | Joubu | should work |
| 16:14 | !jenkins help | |
| 16:14 | AnnaBoten | Error: "jenkins" is not a valid command. |
| 16:14 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 16:14 | Joubu | the doc says you should be either op or voice |
| 16:14 | tcohen | WARNING: org.acegisecurity.userdetails.UsernameNotFoundException: Password is not set: |
| 16:15 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:16 | * ashimema | can't remember the last time he say AnnaBoten (IRC) |
| 16:17 | Joubu | !start |
| 16:17 | AnnaBoten | The hunt starts now! |
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| 16:17 | caroline | uh oh! |
| 16:19 | * CrispyBran | waves |
| 16:19 | Joubu | have a great week-end #koha |
| 16:20 | CrispyBran | you too Joubu |
| 16:20 | AnnaBoten | \_o< quack! |
| 16:21 | caroline | are we supposed to shoot the ducks? |
| 16:21 | tcohen | !koha-jenkins: status |
| 16:21 | AnnaBoten | Error: "koha-jenkins:" is not a valid command. |
| 16:21 | wahanui | i already had it that way, AnnaBoten. |
| 16:21 | tcohen | koha-jenkins: status |
| 16:23 | Freddy_Enrique | Excuse guy, one question |
| 16:24 | does the system automatically generate back ups? | |
| 16:24 | If so, where could I find it? | |
| 16:25 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: No, not automatically. |
| 16:26 | Freddy_Enrique | I see.. what happens is that a partner of mine has one particular problem |
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| 16:26 | Freddy_Enrique | In the intranet he can see al his records, but on the opac nothing pops up |
| 16:27 | caroline | at least the records are not lost |
| 16:27 | Freddy_Enrique | it's like if it doesn't have records in the fisrt place |
| 16:27 | he is sing 17.05 | |
| 16:27 | using* | |
| 16:28 | caroline | If the records are in the intranet, they are there |
| 16:28 | not lost | |
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| 16:28 | caroline | did the opac ever work? |
| 16:30 | Freddy_Enrique | yep, that problem began when they did a little migration |
| 16:36 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:36 | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #115: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/115/ | |
| 16:41 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 16:41 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #118: FIXED in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/118/ | |
| 16:44 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: is it just the new records (from the migration) that don't appear? |
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| 16:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #116: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/116/ |
| 16:55 | * cbrannon[A] | is now away - Reason : Meeting |
| 17:03 | Freddy_Enrique | They have 5 library branches |
| 17:03 | in the intranet, when searching in one of the appear 520 records | |
| 17:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #116: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/116/ |
| 17:04 | Freddy_Enrique | when searching the same branch on the opac though, just appear 5 records |
| 17:07 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:07 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #117: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/117/ | |
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| 17:25 | ashimema | Fixed? I thought it was already happy |
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| 17:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #119: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/119/ |
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| 18:03 | tcohen | +jenkins |
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| 18:15 | CrispyBran | bug 21346 - Yay! |
| 18:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21346 major, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Signed Off , Clean up dialogs in returns.pl / Fix waiting holds at wrong location bug |
| 18:24 | ashimema | jenkins++ |
| 18:28 | CrispyBran | @Seen Joubu |
| 18:28 | huginn | CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 8 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <Joubu> have a great week-end #koha |
| 18:29 | CrispyBran | @karma |
| 18:29 | huginn | CrispyBran: Highest karma: "Joubu" (717), "cait" (635), and "tcohen" (376). Lowest karma: "failed" (-38), "-" (-38), and "ie" (-38). You (CrispyBran) are ranked 71 out of 890. |
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| 18:53 | Freddy_Enrique | Guys.... my friend's koha went crazy |
| 18:53 | now he cant'see anything even in the intranet | |
| 18:53 | uhm, any way to get back to what is used to be? | |
| 18:58 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: If the database isn't bad you could try doing a clean installation and importing the db into that. |
| 18:59 | * cbrannon[A] | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 19:04 | oleonard | Bug 21805 |
| 19:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21805 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Duplicate include file in search results template causes JS error |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Trivial fix for a bug that really shouldn't be in the next release |
| 19:07 | Freddy_Enrique | oleonard: Uhm, and is there a specific folder where I can get the back up? |
| 19:08 | I saw something about automatic cron | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | You use mysqldump to back up the mysql database |
| 19:08 | Freddy_Enrique | with bad... what do you mean ?:( |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: I mean if the problem is how Koha is running as opposed to what the data is in the database |
| 19:09 | It seems much more likely that the problem is in how Koha is running, but maybe I'm wrong. | |
| 19:10 | The packages have tools for creating backups but I haven't used them: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ackages#koha-dump | |
| 19:16 | Freddy_Enrique | I thought I could solve the problem with reboot, but nothing happens |
| 19:16 | ok... I'll try with your tips :) | |
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| 19:58 | oleonard | Happy weekend everyone |
| 20:37 | * CrispyBran | waves |
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| 22:36 | caroline | bye everyone! |
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