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| 00:01 | CrispyBran | Spoiler alert |
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| 00:02 | kidclamp | you can just "git reset --hard 83e515820abb6e2fa8ddf30f61b3f4972a48ed10" |
| 00:02 | that si the commit before - but you won't get th eothers | |
| 00:03 | git-revert 18d85cc8d72b55880e88c5364a3819965c8a2831..5acdbb1d2dcb0bd2719f88aa6905c2cf91fab1db | |
| 00:03 | i think that is the other way, but i don't revert often | |
| 00:03 | CrispyBran | At least I found the correct commit id |
| 00:03 | :) | |
| 00:04 | dcook | I always do something like "git checkout 83e515820abb6e2fa8ddf30f61b3f4972a48ed10"" |
| 00:04 | "git checkout 83e515820abb6e2fa8ddf30f61b3f4972a48ed10"* | |
| 00:04 | creates a detached head which is easy to get rid of after you're done | |
| 00:06 | CrispyBran | doesn't like the git reset phrase. fatal: ambiguous argument '83e515820abb6e2f8ddf30f61b3f4972a48ed10': unknown revision or path not in the working tree. |
| 00:06 | Gotta run for now. Catch you another time. | |
| 00:06 | kidclamp | ah yeah, what dcook said |
| 00:06 | CrispyBran | Night #koha |
| 01:03 | dcook | @later tell tcohen You inspired my comment on https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15032 |
| 01:03 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:03 | Bug 15032: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , [Plack] Scripts that fork (like stage-marc-import.pl) don't work as expected | |
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| 01:13 | alexbuckley | hi kathryn :) |
| 01:22 | kathryn | hi alexbuckley :) |
| 01:37 | kidclamp | byee |
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| 02:53 | Bovinity | Evenin' |
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| 06:14 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:14 | * dcook | waves back |
| 06:15 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:15 | josef_moravec | hi magnuse, dcook |
| 06:15 | dcook | heya josef_moravec |
| 06:15 | wahanui | well, josef_moravec is using this "manual" when building packages: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
| 06:15 | magnuse | hiya josef_moravec |
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| 06:32 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:48 | jajm | hello |
| 06:48 | wahanui | hi, jajm |
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| 06:55 | fridolin | hi hi |
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| 06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:59 | wahanui | what's up, alex_a |
| 07:00 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
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| 07:03 | calire | hi #koha |
| 07:03 | magnuse | bonjour europe |
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| 08:45 | calire | matts++ |
| 08:45 | for being koha-coral king | |
| 08:45 | andreashm | salut! |
| 08:57 | ashimema | fridolin2: about? |
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| 08:57 | ashimema | oh.. there's a '2' in that nick.. is this the same frido? |
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| 09:09 | ere | So they managed to clone fridolin? |
| 09:09 | hi #koha! | |
| 09:09 | * fridolin | yes |
| 09:09 | ere | awesome |
| 09:09 | * fridolin | and yes |
| 09:09 | fridolin | ;) |
| 09:09 | ere | :D |
| 09:10 | fridolin_bis | I'm tired, fridolin please do my job |
| 09:14 | ashimema | lol |
| 09:14 | andreashm | =) |
| 09:15 | ashimema | sorry for the later than usual release yesterday fridolin , hope I didn't end up putting you behind |
| 09:16 | andreashm | calire++ |
| 09:17 | matts++ | |
| 09:18 | fridolin | ashimema: no worries, i'm on release right now |
| 09:18 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:18 | fridolin | i know how its always difficult to find some calm to release :D |
| 09:18 | i've not all patches but major ones are in 17.11.11 | |
| 09:19 | i will backport the few missing on next release | |
| 09:19 | * ashimema | has just done some bugzilla tidying.. after my cleanup a couple of months back I hadn't gone back and marked any of my Pushed to Stable as RESOLVED FIXED upon release.. just updated 201 bugs :) |
| 09:19 | ashimema | brill |
| 09:19 | yeah.. I'm a little behind mater myself | |
| 09:20 | master.. even | |
| 09:20 | aim to catch up later this week | |
| 09:21 | this release seems like it was another fairly big one.. 67 bugs! | |
| 09:23 | andreashm | ashimema: nice! |
| 09:28 | tuxayo | ashimema++ |
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| 09:39 | fridolin | ashimema++ |
| 09:39 | it contains some old strong bugs | |
| 09:39 | Bug 10382 | |
| 09:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves |
| 09:40 | ashimema | yeah.. I'm really pleased with the bug fix frenzy that's been going on :) |
| 09:40 | fridolin | indeed, its hunting season on bugzilla ;) |
| 09:45 | * Francesca | is essay writing |
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| 10:16 | kohaputti | how do you like nested subroutines in Koha code? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]cgi?id=19893#c173 – I have only my personal opinion about this but the argument David has is pretty good about it being a private helper method that is just needed inside of the method. |
| 10:16 | huginn | Bug 19893: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Needs Signoff , Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch |
| 10:16 | kohaputti | nested subs are not really used anywhere else in koha so it just caught my eye |
| 10:16 | and is also a new concept to me | |
| 10:17 | ashimema | personally.. I'm not really a fan of it.. but it was how the code was originally written too so it followed a certain style |
| 10:17 | it's not really especialyl perlish | |
| 10:17 | kohaputti | ashimema, you mean the ES code had nested subs before? |
| 10:18 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 10:19 | ashimema | when I asked our more senior perl devs this was their answer: |
| 10:19 | `Dont do it - Perl does not nest subs - I think the lexer rewrites your code as a series of subs --- basically you're fooling yourself into thinking you are writing pascal` | |
| 10:20 | and.. that took me back to my pascal days at Uni ;) | |
| 10:20 | yeah.. I think allot of the ES code was written in this somewhat strange to a perl programmer style | |
| 10:21 | kohaputti | ashimema, hmm ok, maybe you want to share this in the report? :D |
| 10:21 | ashimema | I actually braught it up here a week or so ago.. but no-one was around to talk about it ;) |
| 10:21 | kohaputti | but either way we go, how does the docs work in nested subs? |
| 10:21 | ashimema | well.. I decided that as the style pre-existed I'd probably pass qa on it (even though I don't really like it) at this point and hope it got tidied up later ;) |
| 10:21 | kohaputti | this would be maybe something we should put in the coding guidelines |
| 10:22 | ashimema | kidclamp.. I asked you about that didn't I? |
| 10:22 | did eythian write this stuff in the first place.. I've not dug into the history of the file enough | |
| 10:23 | kidclamp | I believe it was mostly Eythian, Rangi may have gotten his hands dirty at some point too |
| 10:23 | I don't remember you asking about it, but I agree, it is confusing | |
| 10:23 | eythian | hi what? |
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| 10:24 | eythian | nested subs aren't things that are really done in perl, but closures are. |
| 10:25 | See also: https://hop.perl.plover.com/ | |
| 10:25 | ashimema | hehe.. that books on my shelf waiting for me to have a chance to read it. |
| 10:29 | kohaputti | hmm, today is developer IRC meeting? |
| 10:30 | ashimema | it is indeed |
| 10:30 | kohaputti | we could discuss adding nested subs to the coding guidelines |
| 10:30 | ashimema | feel free to add it as a discussion topic ;) |
| 10:30 | eythian | my opinion is that I wouldn't do nested subs, but would happily do "my $f = sub { ... };" |
| 10:31 | kohaputti | ashimema, here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_24_October_2018? |
| 10:31 | ashimema | yup |
| 10:31 | eythian | really, there's not such a thing as a nested sub, all named sub namespaces are global anyway |
| 10:31 | ashimema | yeah.. I was thinking of suggesting switching it to coderefs instead too eythian :) |
| 10:32 | eythian | well, global within the module or main:: that is. |
| 10:32 | ashimema | I did find it odd https://github.com/colinsc/koh[…]bug_19893_es_fast |
| 10:33 | eythian | ashimema: do you mean https://github.com/colinsc/koh[…]84cf600da4fbdR165 |
| 10:34 | because that's not a nested sub, it's an anonymous sub. | |
| 10:34 | ashimema | nope |
| 10:34 | https://github.com/colinsc/koh[…]236eec1297cebR341 | |
| 10:34 | but there are a few of them scattered around if I remember correctly | |
| 10:34 | eythian | ah |
| 10:34 | yeah | |
| 10:35 | I probably wouldn't do that. | |
| 10:35 | I suspect it was done by someone who expects subs to be lexically scoped like javascript does. | |
| 10:35 | ashimema | that was exactly what I thought |
| 10:35 | it smells of js ;) | |
| 10:35 | hmm | |
| 10:36 | not that I'm against JS.. just not writing perl as though it is another language ;) | |
| 10:37 | eythian | I'll happily be against JS :) |
| 10:37 | ashimema | anywho.. thanks for your input eythian |
| 10:37 | eythian | np |
| 10:57 | ashimema | @later tell mtompsett are you aiming to get back to bug 20664 or should I take over on it's QA? |
| 10:57 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:33 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 11:35 | ashimema | Hi own |
| 11:35 | oleonard (IRC): did you say you were going to get your son to do bug 21615? | |
| 11:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , "Stock rotation" is at the wrong place in the Tools left side menu |
| 11:36 | oleonard | I was going to try and then the weekend got away from me. |
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| 11:36 | * ashimema | 's daughter has a 'coding night' tonight and now she's had her first patch passed qa she's keen to try another ;) |
| 11:37 | ashimema | I can leave it for you if you like or get her to give it a bash |
| 11:37 | oleonard | Take it away |
| 11:40 | * andreashm | waves |
| 11:43 | * magnuse | waves |
| 11:43 | magnuse | ashimemasdaughter++ |
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| 11:58 | oleonard | Wow ashimema... so much bug wrangling! |
| 11:59 | ashimema | sorry ;) |
| 11:59 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
| 11:59 | ashimema | I cheated ;) |
| 12:00 | * ashimema | realised he'd not been diligent about going back after release and setting 'Pushed to stable' to 'RESOLVED FIXED' so he scripted that update |
| 12:10 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 12:11 | ashimema: IIRC this is usually done by rangi and cait just after the release (after they turned off the notifications :D) | |
| 12:11 | ashimema | for major release perhaps.. we actualls discussedbz status's and things at the last dev meeting |
| 12:12 | we agreed to have a bit of a tidy up | |
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| 12:14 | Joubu | it seems that RMaints now update the status when the patches won't be backported, right? |
| 12:14 | it should not happen for the new ones | |
| 12:14 | ashimema | http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-10-20.03.html |
| 12:15 | So.. what seems to have been happening (and is what I was advised to to by prior rmaints and cait) | |
| 12:16 | is.. when a patch is backported to stable I change 'Pushed to master' to 'Pushed to Stable'.. then Frido changes 'Pushed to Stable' to 'RESOLVED FIXED' for patches being backported further.. which just seemed wrong to me.. | |
| 12:17 | so proposition was to have a status for each of the maintained branchs 'Pushed to stable/oldstable/oldoldstable' for rmaints to track what they've pushed.. then for each release set RESOLVED FIXED for patches with the 'Pushed to x' for the version they're releasing | |
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| 12:18 | ashimema | Once rangi update the BZ status's I was going to submit the required changes for the dashboard and a script on the release-tools |
| 12:19 | in fact.. I've already got the release-tools addition coded:https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]_requests/3/diffs | |
| 12:21 | Joubu | ashimema: indeed, I remembered I read the meeting minutes. Did you update the wiki page? |
| 12:21 | "ACTION: ashimema to update release maintanence page to reflect the change (ashimema, 20:42:17)" | |
| 12:21 | ashimema | yup |
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| 12:22 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]22252&oldid=21691 |
| 12:22 | that's all? | |
| 12:23 | ashimema | is it.. untill I can point to how to use the updated koha-release script |
| 12:24 | I wasn't going to update it until we merge that and I wasn't going to ask for that to be merged until the bz update to status's is done | |
| 12:24 | does that make sense to you? | |
| 12:24 | Joubu | not sure :D |
| 12:25 | I feel like these kind of changes must be discussed on the mailing list, not voted by few people during a meeting | |
| 12:25 | in order to make sure everybody got the info | |
| 12:25 | I am not seeing anything on the ML | |
| 12:26 | ashimema | fair enough |
| 12:26 | Joubu | fridolin: "Has Nginx+Plack users, we at Biblibre are interested by any solution." You are volunteering to write it, that's it? |
| 12:27 | fridolin | Joubu: sorry i'm not good enought for that |
| 12:27 | ashimema | I did discus it with fridolin, cait and kidclamp before raising at the meeting and wasn't especially intending on voting on it at that meeting |
| 12:28 | fridolin | but i can try to get a real developper from biblibre |
| 12:29 | tuxayo: are you interessed ? | |
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| 12:29 | fridolin | you can enter in the Koha legend ;) |
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| 12:30 | Joubu | fridolin: I was kidding, we are already 3 on it apparently. But stay tuned, to give your feedback and test the patches when they will be ready! |
| 12:31 | fridolin | indeed, keep me in touch |
| 12:31 | wa are also testers on Ubuntu | |
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| 12:39 | fridolin | mmmm |
| 12:39 | http://catalogue.user01-koha.sandbox.biblibre.eu/ | |
| 12:40 | CSS is actually broken in master ? | |
| 12:40 | does anyone reproduce ? i missed something in webserver | |
| 12:40 | there is rewrite for version in CCS and JS files | |
| 12:41 | i dont see 404 errors | |
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| 12:46 | Joubu | fridolin: bug 20554 certainly broke your local changes |
| 12:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , New OPAC CSS |
| 12:46 | fridolin | Joubu: but its for sandboxes, there is no local change |
| 12:47 | is there a syspref to adapt ? | |
| 12:47 | OpacAdditionalStylesheet ? | |
| 12:48 | kidclamp | nothing should need an adjust that I can think of, clear memached? it never hurts :-)0 |
| 12:49 | fridolin | there is no on sandboxes |
| 12:51 | opaclayoutstylesheet | |
| 12:51 | must contain opac.css | |
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| 12:56 | Joubu | fridolin: there is a "Failed" in the JS console |
| 12:56 | fridolin | kidclamp: something is broken |
| 12:56 | maybe [% Asset.css("css/" _ opaclayoutstylesheet) | $raw %] | |
| 12:57 | kidclamp | hmmm |
| 12:59 | Joubu | that line looks ok for me |
| 13:01 | fridolin | Joubu: kidclamp ahhh its above : [% SET opaclayoutstylesheet='opac_' _ KOHA_VERSION _ '.css' UNLESS opaclayoutstylesheet %] |
| 13:01 | KOHA_VERSION is not needed | |
| 13:02 | its done in Asset | |
| 13:02 | so jsute : [% SET opaclayoutstylesheet='opac.css' UNLESS opaclayoutstylesheet %] | |
| 13:02 | kidclamp | ah, i knew it was arond there, patching fridolin? |
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| 13:02 | fridolin | kidclamp: yep |
| 13:03 | Joubu | fridolin: but the pref is empty on the sandbox |
| 13:03 | fridolin | Joubu: indeed, thats why its broken, it should use defautl value opac.css |
| 13:03 | oleonard: are you around ? | |
| 13:04 | * oleonard | slinks away |
| 13:04 | fridolin | just to confirm that syspref opaclayoutstylesheet is by default empty |
| 13:05 | and code uses opac.css if empty | |
| 13:05 | Bug 20554 brakes actually | |
| 13:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , New OPAC CSS |
| 13:05 | Joubu | ho yes you are right, opaclayoutstylesheet=opac.css in DB for MARC21 |
| 13:06 | that's why we did not catch this issue | |
| 13:06 | fridolin | kidclamp: Joubu do i followup or new bug ? |
| 13:06 | * kidclamp | promises he isn't sabotaging UNIMARC installs |
| 13:06 | Joubu | fridolin: ha but it is for UNIMARC too actaully |
| 13:06 | fridolin | ;) |
| 13:06 | Joubu | installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql:('opaclayoutstylesheet','opac.css','','Enter the name of the layout CSS stylesheet to use in the OPAC','free'), |
| 13:06 | I would be ok with a follow-up, but kidclamp is the boss | |
| 13:07 | kidclamp | followup works for me, jsut don't let me forget to push it :-) |
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| 13:07 | fridolin | go for followup |
| 13:08 | Joubu | fridolin: submit it and I will sign it off immediately |
| 13:10 | fridolin | Joubu: kidclamp 20554 |
| 13:11 | Bug 20554 followup | |
| 13:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , New OPAC CSS |
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| 13:28 | tcohen | hola |
| 13:28 | wahanui | que tal, tcohen |
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| 13:34 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha tcohen corilynn laurence Freddy_Enrique Margaret |
| 13:34 | corilynn | mornin' mtompset! |
| 13:34 | Margaret | hi mtompset! |
| 13:37 | Freddy_Enrique | Buenos dias tcohen |
| 13:37 | * mtompset | hums... |
| 13:37 | mtompset | https://youtu.be/Yu6--WBPBHo?t=58 |
| 13:37 | Freddy_Enrique | hi Koha fellows :3 |
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| 13:38 | Freddy_Enrique | XD |
| 13:40 | mtompset | That's a good tune. :) |
| 13:41 | Freddy_Enrique | caroline...you there? |
| 13:41 | wahanui, have you seen caroline? | |
| 13:41 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, freddy_enrique |
| 13:41 | * Joubu | is trying to imagine mtompset doing tap dances |
| 13:45 | mtompset | Joubu, I'm not coordinated enough to do that. :) |
| 13:45 | Greeting, Joubu. :) | |
| 13:45 | Greetings and salutations, even. :) | |
| 13:45 | Joubu | if you want to try anyway, send us a video ;) |
| 13:45 | mtompset | @seen caroline |
| 13:45 | huginn | mtompset: caroline was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <caroline> bye #koha! |
| 13:46 | Freddy_Enrique | oh... |
| 13:46 | mtompset | Freddy_Enrique, the @seen command is useful. :) |
| 13:46 | Freddy_Enrique | thanks mtompset :) |
| 13:46 | still got a lot to learn | |
| 13:46 | mtompset | And if you know they come frequently, but aren't currently around, @later tell <whoever> <message> |
| 13:46 | kohaputti | meeting in 15 min? |
| 13:46 | same channel, right? | |
| 13:47 | oleonard | wahanui: What time does caroline usually get here? |
| 13:47 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, oleonard |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | @seen wahanui |
| 13:47 | huginn | tuxayo: wahanui was last seen in #koha 1 second ago: <wahanui> bugger all, i dunno, oleonard |
| 13:47 | * mtompset | goes, "huh? What meeting?" |
| 13:47 | kohaputti | mtompset, developer |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | @seen wahanui |
| 13:47 | huginn | tuxayo: wahanui was last seen in #koha 18 seconds ago: <wahanui> bugger all, i dunno, oleonard |
| 13:47 | Freddy_Enrique | XD |
| 13:47 | mtompset | kohaputti, agenda? |
| 13:47 | kohaputti | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_24_October_2018 |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | @seen huginn |
| 13:47 | huginn | tuxayo: You've found me! |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | :O |
| 13:48 | mtompset | kohaputti++ # thanks for the link. |
| 13:48 | Freddy_Enrique | it's a tech meeting... |
| 13:48 | mtompset | nested subroutines?! YUCK! |
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| 13:49 | ashimema | I'll be late to the dev meeting.. school run duties |
| 13:49 | please accept this as my apologies | |
| 13:49 | nuentoter | o7 morning all |
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| 13:53 | fridolin | kidclamp: sorry my ethernet cable |
| 13:53 | * mtompset | mumbles, "If you have something nested, you're doing it wrong. Class it!" |
| 13:53 | mtompset | Well, except for maybe quick inline'ing. :) |
| 13:55 | ashimema | Lol |
| 13:55 | Agreed | |
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| 13:55 | fridolin | kidclamp: ok tu push Bug 20554 |
| 13:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , New OPAC CSS |
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| 13:57 | JesseM | Morning everyone! |
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| 13:58 | kidclamp | on the stack frido, getting what I can in this morning |
| 13:58 | kohaputti | JesseM, hi |
| 13:58 | oleonard | Hi JesseM |
| 13:58 | kidclamp | "morning |
| 13:58 | ashimema | Interesting.. I thought there was already a guideline for the one they're proposing in SQL 13 |
| 13:58 | kidclamp | I don't think we have one |
| 13:58 | that was me | |
| 13:58 | kohaputti | ashimema, it is in the source code in a readme |
| 13:58 | kidclamp | I hate having to mess with them |
| 13:58 | it's already good form, I just want to make it required | |
| 13:58 | ashimema | I see.. and in a wiki page somewhere but perhaps not a guideline |
| 13:59 | We should deprecate the .SQL file version too 😉 | |
| 13:59 | kohaputti | should we wait few more minutes so everyone has a chance to join the discussion? |
| 13:59 | ashimema | If your saying to always use .perl |
| 13:59 | m23 | Hi #koha |
| 13:59 | ashimema | Yes, you should.. I'm just talking whilst I can 😉 |
| 14:00 | kohaputti | ashimema, ah, right you were heading out soon |
| 14:00 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Database_updates |
| 14:00 | For where it's already in theory a hard requirement | |
| 14:01 | Adding it to the guidelines just clarifies it for those who haven't read that page | |
| 14:02 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018 |
| 14:02 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Oct 24 14:02:47 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:02 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_24_october_2018' |
| 14:02 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:03 | fridolin | kidclamp: oki super |
| 14:03 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:03 | #chair Joubu | |
| 14:03 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu kidclamp |
| 14:03 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre |
| 14:03 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS-E, Uk |
| 14:03 | Ish | |
| 14:03 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:03 | ashimema | Waiting at the school gates |
| 14:03 | barton | @info Barton Chittenden, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:03 | huginn | barton: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". |
| 14:03 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic |
| 14:04 | calire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:04 | barton | oops. |
| 14:04 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett |
| 14:04 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:04 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:04 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 14:04 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
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| 14:05 | JesseM | #info Jesse Maseto, BWS |
| 14:05 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:05 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_24_October_2018 |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | full house :-) |
| 14:05 | ashimema | Wow |
| 14:05 | Joubu | kidclamp and ashimema distracted me and I forgot to fill the agenda with tons of topics |
| 14:06 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:06 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:06 | ashimema | Lol.. sorry Joubu |
| 14:06 | kidclamp | you still can joubu, just let us know to reload |
| 14:06 | any announcements> | |
| 14:07 | last call for announcements... | |
| 14:07 | Joubu | I am planning a "what's on in koha-devel" email soon |
| 14:07 | https://annuel2.framapad.org/p[…]_on_in_koha-devel # if you want to your topics | |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | #info Joubu is working on a 'what's on in koha devel' - please add topics to keep this email going |
| 14:08 | #link https://annuel2.framapad.org/p[…]_on_in_koha-devel What's On email topic | |
| 14:08 | Joubu | also, bookmark https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_18_11_candidate - but I already sent an email about that |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | #info Check the 18.11 bug list too |
| 14:09 | #link https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_18_11_candidate 18.11 bugs | |
| 14:09 | Joubu | and "sql modes", but later |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | #topic Update from the Release manager (18.11) |
| 14:09 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (18.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | That's me! |
| 14:09 | I am working on cleaning out the queue - ES has seen some movement, focus there to get things in before slush is appreciated | |
| 14:10 | slush is coming fast | |
| 14:10 | follow the tag as above for things we need in 18.11 | |
| 14:10 | I am excited for the release :-) we did good work, thank you all | |
| 14:10 | ashimema | Scary fast |
| 14:11 | kohaputti | what is slush? |
| 14:11 | wahanui | rumour has it slush is coming fast |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | enhancements not in PQA will not be considered for the release |
| 14:11 | ashimema | Comes before freeze |
| 14:11 | kohaputti | ok |
| 14:11 | thanks | |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | freeze means no more enhancements |
| 14:12 | Joubu | November 2 - Feature slush - no enhancement/new features that have not passed QA will be considered for release |
| 14:12 | mtompset | Will all Passed QA make it into the next release? |
| 14:12 | Joubu | November 9 - Feature freeze - only bugfixes will pushed after this - 1st draft of release notes |
| 14:12 | November 16 - String Freeze - 2nd draft of release notes | |
| 14:12 | November 27 - Release | |
| 14:12 | kidclamp | mtompset: they are still subject to review - i iwll do my best barring issues |
| 14:13 | thanks Joubu | |
| 14:13 | mtompset | okay, thank you, kidclamp. :) |
| 14:13 | kidclamp | that's all i have for right now |
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| 14:14 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:14 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:14 | kidclamp | ashimema? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | hmmm... ashimema is RMaint for 18.05 ? |
| 14:14 | oleonard | ashimema said he would be late |
| 14:14 | kidclamp | fridolin? |
| 14:14 | wahanui | fridolin is indeed, but maybe not on Rmain 18.11 |
| 14:14 | fridolin | yep |
| 14:14 | I juste released | |
| 14:14 | https://koha-community.org/koha-17-11-11-release/ | |
| 14:15 | ashimema | We made release |
| 14:15 | And I have some catching up to do now | |
| 14:15 | fridolin | I'm late on 18.05.x for around 10 bugs I will catchup |
| 14:15 | ashimema | But otherwise, nothing from me |
| 14:15 | kidclamp | #info ashimema and frido are releasing releases and being cool |
| 14:15 | * fridolin | asked help for rebase of Bug 21385 |
| 14:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21385 major, P2, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED FIXED, Vendor search: Item count is incorrectly updated on partial receive |
| 14:16 | fridolin | ashimema: is on it |
| 14:16 | oh why resolved | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | Yup |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:16 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:17 | fridolin | juste to finish, Plugins with CSS and JS are in 17.11.x |
| 14:17 | enjoy :) | |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | cait joubu marcelr jajm khall tcohen alex_a josef_moravec |
| 14:17 | fridolin++ | |
| 14:17 | Freddy_Enrique | fridolin++ |
| 14:17 | Joubu | kidclamp: sql modes? |
| 14:17 | tcohen | Joubu: leave that for the begining of the next release |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | I figured you would bring up now |
| 14:18 | Joubu | tcohen: I do not understand what you mean |
| 14:18 | are you telling we should not discuss it before the release? | |
| 14:19 | tcohen | no, I mean the changes in Koha::Object |
| 14:19 | this is important, needs to be discussed! | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | ok |
| 14:19 | so | |
| 14:19 | "strict sql modes" | |
| 14:20 | I am going to create a page on the wiki to explain the situation | |
| 14:20 | what we did, where we are, and what need to be done | |
| 14:20 | also the problems we are facing | |
| 14:20 | to me the priority is to stop the regressions, at least the ones tests can catch | |
| 14:21 | and so you should focuss on bug 21613 | |
| 14:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21613 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Turn strict SQL modes on for tests |
| 14:21 | Joubu | nothing else for now |
| 14:22 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 14:22 | kidclamp | #info Joubu will create a wiki page for the strcit sql modes issue |
| 14:22 | #link http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21613 Bug to add strict mode to tests to prevent regressions | |
| 14:22 | huginn | Bug 21613: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Turn strict SQL modes on for tests |
| 14:23 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:23 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:24 | kidclamp | ashimema around? |
| 14:24 | mtompset | ashimema, said he was going to run late, I think... scrolls up... |
| 14:25 | "<ashimema> I'll be late to the dev meeting.. school run duties | |
| 14:25 | <ashimema> please accept this as my apologies" | |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | jsut checking, I ma not sure what is needed for trailers discussion, or just to highlight them |
| 14:25 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es#Other_trailers Other git trailers | |
| 14:25 | ashimema | I'm sorta around but in the playground |
| 14:26 | Git trailer s was a hang over from last meeting.. | |
| 14:26 | Wasn't proposed by me.. I just like the idea | |
| 14:26 | kohaputti | are these *other* trailers a recent thing? |
| 14:26 | ashimema | It's all documented anyways.. just needed highlighting to sleeve new about it |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Yes kohaputti |
| 14:27 | kidclamp | cool |
| 14:27 | ashimema | Especially the Sponsored-by one which I intend to make more use of for release notes |
| 14:27 | Joubu | should not they be added by RM (automatically |
| 14:27 | ) | |
| 14:27 | kohaputti | I like them, but I cannot say whether the implementation is correct |
| 14:28 | mtompset | Just one question: would they change they ... "git bz apply; test; git so; git bz attach" workflow? |
| 14:28 | Oops.. change THE... | |
| 14:28 | If not, I don't care. :) | |
| 14:28 | kohaputti | mtompset, I think not because sign-off for example can come after of before, it really doesn't matter or does it? |
| 14:29 | * ashimema | now has child so disappears again |
| 14:29 | kohaputti | will it get messy if these different types of trailers are not sorted? |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | I don't see them causing any issues, they should come before the signoff ones I suppose, but is an easy fix |
| 14:30 | ashimema | Could end up as an RM thing I suppose Joubu |
| 14:30 | But if it does would be good to script as much as we can | |
| 14:30 | * mtompset | chuckles, "Automate everything!" |
| 14:31 | kohaputti | I think we can try them, right? It doesn't hurt? |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | agreed |
| 14:32 | kohaputti | Would the patch submitter be encouraged to add also "Reported-by"? Or just RM |
| 14:33 | Joubu | Reported-by can be scripted |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | I don't think we are suggesting these are required either, just encouraged and allowed? |
| 14:34 | Joubu | "Co-authored-by" we usually follow-up instead |
| 14:34 | "Mentored-by" cannot be scripted | |
| 14:34 | "Thanks-to" must be done manually too | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | Yup |
| 14:34 | Not required | |
| 14:34 | mtompset | Will there be a list of "valid trailer tags" on the wiki? |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | moving on? |
| 14:35 | ashimema | I used Mentored-by the other day.. |
| 14:35 | Joubu | we will certainly not use "Mentored-by" much |
| 14:35 | kohaputti | would Reported-by be a bit redundant since it is already in bugzilla? |
| 14:35 | mtompset | kohaputti, but that would allow for it to transfer to release notes easier. |
| 14:35 | Joubu | mtompset: a link has been sent before |
| 14:35 | mtompset | okay. |
| 14:36 | I didn't follow the conversation closely. | |
| 14:36 | kohaputti | mtompset, but can't we extract that from bugzilla with some automated fashion? |
| 14:36 | mtompset | Whatever... moving on, like kidclamp said. :) |
| 14:36 | kohaputti | does each bug say to which version the patches has been pushed? |
| 14:36 | okay | |
| 14:37 | kidclamp | these are all good questions :-) I think followup on the email thread and we can develop guidelines et.c if these become widely used or we have a need |
| 14:37 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 14:37 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 14:37 | kidclamp | #info Using nested subroutines (as discussed in Bug 19893) |
| 14:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Needs Signoff , Alternative optimized indexing for Elasticsearch |
| 14:38 | kohaputti | What is your opinion on using nested sub like: https://github.com/colinsc/koh[…]236eec1297cebR341 ? |
| 14:39 | I think if it is not an closure, i.e. it doesn't refer to outer subroutine it should be moved in top level | |
| 14:39 | on the other hand if it is closure, i.e. refers to something in the outer subroutine I think it is fine for it to be a nested subroutine | |
| 14:39 | mtompset | My question is why isn't this classed? It's written like a class. |
| 14:40 | I really dislike nested routines. | |
| 14:40 | kohaputti | mtompset, that could be a good way to do it but I don't think we should focus on this specific piece of code right now? |
| 14:41 | mtompset, what are the drawbacks of nested routines in your opinion? | |
| 14:41 | I myself noticed it makes it hard to follow the code because I cannot differentiate the to routines from each other | |
| 14:42 | the two routines* | |
| 14:42 | Joubu | maybe moved to Koha::FieldMappings? |
| 14:42 | mtompset | our code is not cleanly indented across the project. it makes it harder to eyeball. |
| 14:43 | Anything longer than 3 lines (which is an arbitrary okay inline size) should be it's own class. | |
| 14:43 | ^it's^its^ | |
| 14:43 | kohaputti | class? You mean subroutine? |
| 14:44 | ashimema | I'm against it |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | I think it does affect readability, quick research seems to indicate it is not 'good' perl unless it is a closure |
| 14:44 | ashimema | It could be a coderef and be a bit more readable |
| 14:45 | * ashimema | would like to read more into it before just throwing it out.. see what perl best practice and higher order perl suggests about it |
| 14:45 | kohaputti | I think why it at least for me affects the readability is because it makes the outer function bigger and there there is more things I need to keep in mind at the same time |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | what is the benefit of nesting it? |
| 14:45 | mtompset | class as in OO Perl, like Joubu suggested a Koha::FieldMappings or something. |
| 14:45 | tcohen | if it was a functor, and we were generating multiple functions to be passed around, maybe but this looks obfuscated as-is, with no clear win |
| 14:46 | kohaputti | kidclamp, the benefit is when you want to refer to something in the outer function, like some variable |
| 14:46 | ashimema | I'm also not sure it scopes that way he's expecting |
| 14:46 | mtompset | tcohen, yes, a functor (if I am understanding your word use) would be okay with a coderef. |
| 14:47 | josef_moravec | quick reading about it now, and I am against it as it is used here... |
| 14:47 | tcohen | yes, but you might need to generate functions, but hey, this is not the case |
| 14:47 | mtompset | kohaputti, if you want to refer to an outer variable, then you shoudl have passed it as a parameter. |
| 14:47 | josef_moravec | ashimema: yes, the scoping looks like one of the problems |
| 14:47 | mtompset | -- hashref preferably. :) |
| 14:48 | josef_moravec | I would like to see some refactoring here - move to better place, as Joube mentioned for example¨ |
| 14:48 | Joubu | the main issue is that you cannot unit test it |
| 14:48 | mtompset | -- which you can with a class. :) |
| 14:49 | unit_tests++ :) | |
| 14:49 | unittests++ :) | |
| 14:49 | tests++ :) | |
| 14:49 | regressions_tests++ :) | |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | I think we can vote? |
| 14:49 | kohaputti | mtompset, yeah I think it can be passed as a parameter too but I guess there is some reason for closure (https://perldoc.perl.org/perlref.html). |
| 14:49 | oleonard | unitte_ests++ |
| 14:50 | kohaputti | I think we should not rule out closures completely? but just such nesting where it is actually not a closure |
| 14:50 | mtompset | oleonard++ # love your spelling. |
| 14:50 | No, no... closures of a SMALL size (which is why I threw out an arbitrary 3 lines) would be okay. | |
| 14:51 | oleonard | mtompset: sts is obviously not a word. |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | kohaputti: agreed, but this doesn't seem to be a closure as understood, this is a named internal subroutine |
| 14:51 | kohaputti | mtompset, do you mean with a closure a subroutine that refers to outer subroutines variable? |
| 14:51 | kidclamp, yes it is not closure in that example | |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | I think we can add the rule and consider exceptions if warranted |
| 14:52 | mtompset | perhaps... but very limited scope and use. Generally be avoided. |
| 14:52 | kohaputti | so to put it more clearly: I don't want named internal subroutines, but closure are okay |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | we are all reasonable people :-) |
| 14:53 | should we develop a coding guideline? | |
| 14:53 | kohaputti | kidclamp, we have one..? |
| 14:53 | Joubu | I do not think it's needed |
| 14:53 | ashimema | Possibly, but perhaps not until a few of us have researched further |
| 14:53 | kohaputti | kidclamp, you meant for this issue? |
| 14:53 | ashimema | It's a pretty rare occurrence to come across it |
| 14:54 | kidclamp | yeah, just wondering if we needed action, or just discussion for this one bug? |
| 14:55 | mtompset | Well, what do we do when someone else writes a large internal routine like this again? |
| 14:55 | ashimema | Just the discussion I think.. I'd really like to see that bug moving on but if I'm honest I don't think it's ready for 18.11 myself.. not as is. |
| 14:55 | Joubu | QA will fail it |
| 14:56 | ashimema | That's why I think we need a bit more thought before we guideline it |
| 14:56 | mtompset | -- unless it is a newbie QA'r? ;) |
| 14:56 | kohaputti | I think we could deal with this now, or if you want have some time to think about it and decide in the next meeting? |
| 14:56 | ashimema | Right now QA picked it up as a code smell and brought up discussions.. that was the right thing to do |
| 14:56 | mtompset | if we guideline it, the guideline needs to be flexible and not-rigid, but generally encourage a particular coding style. |
| 14:57 | definitely code smell here. | |
| 14:57 | kidclamp | okay. no guideline for now, will someone respond on the bug to say we don't like it? then we can move on |
| 14:57 | kohaputti | agreed |
| 14:58 | * ashimema | is overwhelmed at the moment.. anyone else fancy commenting |
| 14:58 | kidclamp | #info we do not like nested subroutines - we should avoid them |
| 14:58 | #info Proposal add guideline SQL13: DB Updates - when preparing DB updates you must use skeleton.perl as the base and ensure updates are idempotent (multiple runs should not cause errors) | |
| 14:58 | * ashimema | certainly wants to re-read a few chapters before he would comment |
| 14:59 | mtompset | I definitely like the idea of idempotent. :) |
| 14:59 | kohaputti | I can forward this discussion to the author also, and then work together on refactoring it |
| 14:59 | Joubu | kidclamp: .sql is useful for "INSERT IGNORE INTO systempreferences" single query |
| 15:00 | mtompset | Thanks, Joubu. I was going to mention that. :) |
| 15:00 | Joubu | idenpotent is a guideline already |
| 15:00 | thd | Nested subroutines when used appropriately can produce less complexity and easier readability. |
| 15:00 | ashimema | They're already meant to be idempotent |
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| 15:00 | ashimema | It's just not in that guidelines page but in a dB guidelines one |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | Yes,m I just want to make it easily visible and spelled out, it is threaded through other pages on the wiki |
| 15:01 | mtompset | Joubu, where is that in the guidelines? |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | the wiki alsmo mentions .sql files. but I don't want to see those anymore |
| 15:01 | :-) | |
| 15:01 | kohaputti | thd, I will research on that |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | essentially now the RM cleans up the update if it is not in the right format, and I don't want to , because I am likely to mess it up |
| 15:02 | Joubu | if it's not in the wiki it's in my head |
| 15:02 | mtompset | Ah, I see it: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]pdates#Idempotent |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | just want it easily spelled out and obvious so we all know where it is and I can fail QA and make the author fix :-) |
| 15:02 | thd | ... but the could be an endless recursion trap more easily. |
| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:04 | kidclamp | So...you think it is okay to add? or you think we don't need it? |
| 15:05 | mtompset | I think we should centralize it in the coding guidelines. :) |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | or, "Updates should be written as directed on the wiki at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Database_updates" |
| 15:05 | kohaputti | I think it can be added, also to the README in installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate |
| 15:05 | mtompset | But not necessarily require the .perl thing. |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | I want to require the perl |
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| 15:05 | kohaputti | mtompset, what would be a case where skeleton.perl cannot be used? |
| 15:06 | mtompset | kidclamp, when INSERT IGNORE works? |
| 15:06 | kohaputti, it can always be used. It's just that a person doing it, might just be more comfortable providing just the SQL. | |
| 15:06 | kidclamp | it still gets wrapped in perl when moved to updatedatabase.pl - I just want that tobe the work of the author to avoid copying issues |
| 15:06 | and having to requote sql statements | |
| 15:07 | Joubu | use q|| instead of quote and you are done ;) |
| 15:07 | mtompset | I prefer q{} |
| 15:07 | Joubu | lazy kidclamp |
| 15:07 | kidclamp | unless the statement has pipes in it joubu |
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| 15:07 | kidclamp | lazy developers? |
| 15:08 | someone is being lazy in either casee | |
| 15:08 | mtompset | Joubu, write a script to turn .sql atomicupdates to .perl for kidclamp. ;) |
| 15:08 | kohaputti | well doesn't the RM already has enough things to do? Maybe we should provide the script to do .perl file from just the bare SQL |
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| 15:08 | kohaputti | mtompset, exactly |
| 15:09 | kidclamp | the sekelton.perl is already there, I just don't see a reason to not use it |
| 15:10 | but this is not getting the support i hoped :-) | |
| 15:11 | mtompset | kidclamp, whenever I do an atomic update with a .perl, I'll remember to use your name in vain. ;) |
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| 15:11 | nuentoter | lol |
| 15:11 | kohaputti | mtompset, have you come a cross anybody who was uncomfortable doing the update with the skeleton.perl? |
| 15:12 | Joubu | I would suggest to update the wiki and tell people we prefer a .perl even for single statement |
| 15:12 | mtompset | Me. I rather just get the SQL right. :) |
| 15:12 | Joubu | but we should not FQA for that reason |
| 15:12 | mtompset | I can support Joubu's suggestion. :) |
| 15:12 | kidclamp | fair engouh, but I will sigh a lot -- jsut know you make me sigh :-) |
| 15:12 | kohaputti | mtompset, so your worry is that the perl wrapper creates bugs? |
| 15:12 | mtompset | Can you make a video of that? ;) |
| 15:13 | Joubu | kidclamp: rely on QA team to move .sql to .perl |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | at that point I feel lazy, anyways, I think we can then just add a link tothe update page ont eh coding guidelines and call it a day? |
| 15:14 | mtompset | kohaputti, nope. Just worried it will do something else magical. Don't trust those inner workings. EEEEEVIL! ;) |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | mtompset: it is just a wrapper - the rm moving it or you putting it there are the same |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Is anyone else arguing that this is a bad idea? |
| 15:15 | corilynn | mtompset++ on getting the SQL right! |
| 15:15 | mtompset | It's not a BAD idea... just requiring it... Guideline it... |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Okay, so... RM says do it. |
| 15:15 | mtompset | not mandate it. |
| 15:16 | kidclamp | unless there are objections I will add the link to the coding guidelines page, and add to that page that skeleton is STRONGLY encouraged |
| 15:16 | no guideline | |
| 15:16 | mtompset | okay. |
| 15:16 | kohaputti | If the RM would convert it to perl then there is nobody reviewing it. I like it more when the author does it so there is the review part included |
| 15:17 | mtompset | valid point, kohaputti. |
| 15:17 | kidclamp | kohaputti++ |
| 15:17 | mtompset | nothing worse than rolling a package which is broken. |
| 15:18 | kidclamp's name will be used less in vain. | |
| 15:18 | Joubu | cannot happen, tests will fail |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | anyways, I had enoguh discussion, and no objections |
| 15:18 | kohaputti | Because there are no vanilla SQL atomicupdates in reality then I think we should only allow .perl atomicupdates |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 15:18 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 24 October 2018) | |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | November 7, 21 UTC? |
| 15:19 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 7 November 2018, 21 UTC |
| 15:19 | kidclamp | #endmeeting |
| 15:19 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:19 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Oct 24 15:19:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:19 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-10-24-14.02.html | |
| 15:19 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-10-24-14.02.txt | |
| 15:19 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]24-14.02.log.html | |
| 15:19 | Joubu | to make it set correctly ;) |
| 15:20 | kidclamp | thanks everyone! |
| 15:20 | mtompset | kidclamp, Sorry if I joked around too hard. :) |
| 15:20 | kidclamp | no worries mtompset |
| 15:20 | kohaputti | thank you! |
| 15:21 | kidclamp | off for a bit |
| 15:26 | ashimema | Thanks guys |
| 15:27 | * ashimema | just caught up.. seems I didn't miss much.. I would have +1 the SQL stuff if I were there |
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| 15:34 | oleonard | Joubu: Is [% FILTER html %][% var %][% END %] the same as [% var | html %] ? |
| 15:36 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:37 | [% FILTER html %] should be used when there are several lines, but the script I wrote to catch missings filters will not considered it as valid | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | So [% FILTER html %][% var | html %][% END %] is SUPER filtered :) |
| 15:37 | Joubu | yes :) |
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| 15:46 | oleonard | Joubu: Did you write a test to catch new templates with YUI grid markup or did I imagine it? |
| 15:50 | * mtompset | grins, "KIDCLAAAAAMP!" |
| 15:50 | mtompset | Just for the humour of it, while I sign off this bug. :) |
| 15:52 | Joubu | oleonard: I see that: |
| 15:52 | + {pattern => qr{"btn btn-small}, error => "Contains old bootstrap style for buttons (see bug 16239)"}, | |
| 15:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrade Bootstrap in the staff client |
| 15:52 | Joubu | + {pattern => qr{"btn btn-mini}, error => "Contains old bootstrap style for buttons (see bug 16239)"}, |
| 15:52 | + {pattern => qr{"modal hide"}, error => "Contains old bootstrap style for buttons (see bug 16239)"}, | |
| 15:52 | for buttons and modals only it seems | |
| 15:52 | mtompset | kidclamp, signed off bug 21639 for you. ;) |
| 15:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21639 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Phone notice transports do not exist for new installs |
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| 16:03 | mtompset | @seen oleonard |
| 16:03 | huginn | mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 16 minutes and 45 seconds ago: <oleonard> Joubu: Did you write a test to catch new templates with YUI grid markup or did I imagine it? |
| 16:04 | mtompset | oleonard++ # 96 validation errors to 21. Can we get it lower? bug 21645 |
| 16:04 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Clean up library groups template |
| 16:04 | Freddy_Enrique | mtompset, what does sing off mean? |
| 16:04 | sign off* | |
| 16:05 | oleonard | mtompset: What tool did you use and do the errors come from the body of the page (as opposed to include files) |
| 16:05 | mtompset | oleonard, Good point about include files... I just cut and paste page source into validator.w3.org |
| 16:06 | Freddy_Enrique, read through this page and linked to pages. | |
| 16:06 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eveloper_handbook | |
| 16:09 | class="edit-group" errors are in the template file. | |
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| 16:10 | mtompset | As is the delete-group |
| 16:10 | Freddy_Enrique | mtompset++ |
| 16:10 | nice! | |
| 16:11 | oleonard | mtompset: Fail it and I'll resubmit |
| 16:12 | mtompset | Nah... just add a patch. |
| 16:12 | no need to resubmit. | |
| 16:13 | But I'll fail it, and comment. | |
| 16:17 | Greetings, CrispyBran | |
| 16:18 | CrispyBran | hello |
| 16:18 | wahanui | salut, CrispyBran |
| 16:18 | mtompset | Have a good lunch, oleonard :) |
| 16:21 | * CrispyBran | waves |
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| 16:31 | mtompset | Oh bleep. |
| 16:32 | Is anyone familiar with how to untangle the mess that is nested reuses? | |
| 16:33 | C4::Circulation uses C4::Members uses C4::Accounts. C4::Circulations also uses C4::Accounts. And then, C4::Circulation also uses C4::Overdues which uses C4::Accounts. | |
| 16:33 | Is this where use order becomes important? | |
| 16:34 | * CrispyBran | pulls out the grenade launcher |
| 16:42 | * ashimema | cries whenever that happens mtompset |
| 16:43 | mtompset | Sent an email to the devel list. |
| 16:43 | ashimema, cry more.... | |
| 16:43 | C4::Circulation -> Koha::Accounts -> C4::Circulation qw (ReturnLostItem); | |
| 17:02 | Have a good lunch, oleonard? :) | |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Meh. |
| 17:24 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: DBRev 18.06.00.044 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a55f2f88e70db74d5> |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: Fix incorrect GROUP BY <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]05054a241dc797877> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: DBRev 18.06.00.043 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]411844ed85511f01b> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 20554: (follow-up) KOHA_VERSION is not needed in opaclayoutstylesheet <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c378f7d469d61219e> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21511: (RM follow-up) Use orders.count instead of new variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4e37c5d203348518> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21511: Don't show acquisition details on subscription detail when there is no... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7c6b69ecc9c1d2ee> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: (follow-up) Default to unlimited <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a87c5b9b619bf45cf> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21216: (follow-up) Exclude some columns from export <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]62d6c26f85b8b00f4> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21216: Add filter/search options to notices table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]89a204f273d508926> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (follow-up) Fixing layout of description button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]273998c3006f04abf> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (follow-up) Correct merge errors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]103cefc53d5ecc71f> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: Make circ rules UI handle holds_per_day <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a7fc94e07dcc8779> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (follow-up) Hide description field if the batch is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]426e2dffb10b814ae> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (follow-up) Save description link as button on patroncard side <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c11d377df82901c4> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (follow-up) Making 'Save description' link a button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c88863a952a62fb0> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: Adding descriptions to patron card batches <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]673abd3c406c89b36> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: Modify request.tt to handle the new error string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b692bc508773bbd97> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: Extend CanItemBeReserved so it handles daily holds limits <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af9774de9456bb2f2> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]76537c298edffa75d> | |
| 17:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 15486: DB structure change <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f44aa136fb041157> | |
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| 17:27 | caroline | hello everyone! |
| 17:27 | * CrispyBran | waves |
| 17:30 | * oleonard | waves goodbye |
| 17:32 | caroline | now I have the Beatles song in my head... |
| 17:33 | corilynn | we all live in a yellow submarine, caroline? |
| 17:33 | caroline | no the hello/goodbye song (not sure of the title) |
| 17:34 | corilynn | google says it's called hello, goodbye |
| 17:34 | caroline | hehe! keeping it simple! |
| 17:36 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 15766: (RM follow-up) Schema updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1782c0692aa9a95d8> |
| 17:38 | Joubu | kidclamp, ashimema, tcohen: bug 21596 comment 19 to review please |
| 17:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21596 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Handle default values when storing Koha::Patron |
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| 17:49 | mtompset | Okay.. that was a nasty blip... |
| 17:50 | CrispyBran | Question for #koha. An item has a hold and has a waiting status. Patron picks up hold without checking it out. Returns it at another branch. Should Koha A) send the item back to the branch it should be waiting at, and wait out a pickup the patron no longer needs or, B) ask the staff member about it? Should the hold be cancelled at that point by staff? Should it automatically be cancelled and trigger the next hold? |
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| 17:51 | * mtompset | cringes. |
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| 17:52 | caroline | CrispyBran: I would say pop-up saying this items is on hold and waiting at library X, with options confirm and transfer, confirm, transfer and print slip, and ignore |
| 17:54 | Because the scenario could be different, it could be someone else who brought back the item, not necessarily the person it was meant for. | |
| 17:55 | CrispyBran | The question is, if it could be any number of reasons why it ended up in the wrong place, what is the best way to deal with it. |
| 17:56 | How should this get resolved? Call the patron and check if they had read it? | |
| 17:57 | caroline | CrispyBran: I'm not sure how other libraries deal with holds waiting forever on the shelf, but after several days, yes I think a call is in order |
| 18:00 | Native English speakers: is "Showed" supposed to be "Shown" in a sentence like 20 orders showed/n? | |
| 18:00 | Showed sounds weird | |
| 18:00 | CrispyBran | Should be shown |
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| 18:01 | caroline | thx! |
| 18:01 | does "Displayed" sound better than shown? | |
| 18:04 | CrispyBran | That or Showing |
| 18:04 | Either would work for a singular or plural situation. | |
| 18:04 | Or Displaying | |
| 18:05 | nuentoter | after 1 week on holds list, we give calls. after 1 more week they go back on shelf. "Displayed" gets my vote |
| 18:05 | mtompset | orders has nothing to do with holds, right? |
| 18:05 | (making sure I'm parsing the conversations correctly) | |
| 18:05 | CrispyBran | two different topics mtompset |
| 18:06 | nuentoter | yeah sorry |
| 18:06 | caroline | Its for a syspref like PatronsPerPage, but I guess they wanted them to start all the same. The dev called it TableMaxShowedOrders, TableMaxShowedItemTypes, etc but it just sounds bad to my ears |
| 18:06 | mtompset | and these orders are they still in the midst of processing, or are they processed, or is there a mix? |
| 18:06 | CrispyBran | I'm all for "20 orders revealed for your perusal" |
| 18:07 | caroline | CrispyBran: lol!! |
| 18:07 | nuentoter | ^^^ |
| 18:07 | mtompset | Or the infinitive form. |
| 18:07 | nuentoter | im with CrispyBran |
| 18:07 | mtompset | TableMaxOrdersToShow |
| 18:07 | Because this will be used as a limit for showing. | |
| 18:08 | nuentoter | TableMaxOrdersRevealed |
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| 18:08 | CrispyBran | Displayed++ |
| 18:08 | nuentoter | yeah ^^ |
| 18:08 | Displayed is better imo tbh | |
| 18:09 | mtompset | ToShow is shorter to type. ;) |
| 18:09 | caroline | TableMaxOrdersDisplayed |
| 18:09 | nuentoter | TableMaxOrdersShown |
| 18:09 | mtompset | And why is the word Table there? |
| 18:09 | caroline | no idea... |
| 18:10 | I was not part of the discussion... I was only SHOWN the result and am not happy with it | |
| 18:10 | mtompset | MaxOrdersToShow (MOTS -- French for Word, right?) |
| 18:10 | come on... have to fit some French in there. ;) | |
| 18:11 | caroline | mtompset: lol!! |
| 18:11 | nuentoter | Mot is a witty saying |
| 18:11 | mtompset | And programmers have humour... put in a pun that English speakers will generally miss. :) |
| 18:12 | All the while having a meaningful English phrase. :) | |
| 18:13 | CrispyBran | MaxOrdersDisplayed++ |
| 18:14 | It's MOD. ;) | |
| 18:14 | caroline | The things is, it's not only orders, so your word plays won't works with everything :) |
| 18:14 | there's suggestions, authorities, funds, etc. | |
| 18:15 | mtompset | Oh... |
| 18:15 | lots of limits. | |
| 18:16 | Why not FoosDisplayLimit | |
| 18:16 | caroline | Because of the alphabetic order |
| 18:16 | Currently they are all together which is nice | |
| 18:17 | nuentoter | why is the table in there? |
| 18:17 | caroline | I was told "because it's in a table" |
| 18:17 | CrispyBran | :/ |
| 18:17 | nuentoter | oh ... ok good enough |
| 18:18 | Joubu | PatronsPerPage is almost obsolete as we have DataTables and Ajax to fetch them |
| 18:18 | CrispyBran | I would rewrite all the pref names. :) |
| 18:18 | nuentoter | TableMaxShown |
| 18:18 | TMS | |
| 18:19 | caroline | too many sysprefs? |
| 18:19 | nuentoter | too much stuff |
| 18:19 | the S could be changed depending on mood or level of frustration | |
| 18:20 | Joubu | is there a bug number for the "max orders" stuff? |
| 18:20 | caroline | Joubu: no it's a client development |
| 18:20 | I just wanted to know if Showed existed in english | |
| 18:20 | Joubu | which view? |
| 18:20 | ok :) | |
| 18:21 | sounds weird to limit the number of results, pagination should be added | |
| 18:21 | nuentoter | showed does, but not in correct usage that way |
| 18:21 | caroline | Joubu: it's the default to be shown |
| 18:21 | Normally it's 20 by default | |
| 18:21 | nuentoter | i showed something to you, ie, past tense. you are being shown is present tense |
| 18:22 | caroline | but the client wanted to be able to customize |
| 18:22 | mtompset | oh! Why didn't they YML iy? |
| 18:22 | YML it? | |
| 18:22 | { foo: x, bar: y, baz: z } | |
| 18:22 | And store that in a DisplayLimits syspref? | |
| 18:22 | One systempreference. | |
| 18:22 | Oh, never mind.. the de-yml'ing would mean more code. | |
| 18:23 | TMS! *laugh* | |
| 18:23 | nuentoter | see, TMS should be it lol |
| 18:24 | caroline: shown would be the correct english for its use here | |
| 18:24 | caroline | nuentoter: thank you :) |
| 18:25 | I didn't know it was a tense thing. I though it was active vs passive | |
| 18:29 | nuentoter | shown is the past participle of the verb show, showed is the past tense |
| 18:35 | Joubu | bug 21650 # the number of ghost subroutines we have/had is incredible |
| 18:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21650 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , C4::Items::GetLastAcquisitions has never been used and should be removed |
| 18:39 | mtompset | Joubu, POD coverage failure. |
| 18:39 | Otherwise, I would have signed it off. :) | |
| 18:41 | Joubu | it is expected |
| 18:42 | the POD coverage check is bad | |
| 18:42 | it compares % of coverage before and after the patch | |
| 18:42 | it only works when sub/methods are added, not when they are removed | |
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| 18:47 | mtompset | Fine. Commented as such, and signed off. |
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| 18:56 | LibTech | Hello everyone, I am in need of some assistance. I am trying to set up a koha developer instance but I am encountering a snag. I have installed the koha unstable package and have set it up. It works fine. I then cloned the master respositoy from git and ran koha-gitify. When I try to access koha now, I get the 18.06 setup screen which appears to work, but when it completes, it starts over again rather that going to the koha main screen. Can |
| 18:59 | mtompset | LibTech, use the kohadevbox. |
| 18:59 | Joubu | LibTech: which instructions did you follow? |
| 18:59 | you could try to restart plack and memcached | |
| 18:59 | (in the other order, first memcached, then plack) | |
| 19:00 | mtompset | https://gitlab.com/koha-community/kohadevbox |
| 19:02 | LibTech | Restarting memcached did the trick! Thank-you Joubu! |
| 19:05 | mtompset: I have tried kohadevbox before, but for some reason it doesn't seem to want to work on my computer... Thanks for the suggestion though. | |
| 19:09 | nuentoter | i've had issues with kohadevbox too, I just use an old pc that we hadn't had plugged in in forever for any dev stuff. dedicateddevbox |
| 19:18 | * cbrannon[A] | is now away - Reason : Lunch |
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| 19:22 | * cait | waves |
| 19:22 | caroline | hi cait! |
| 19:23 | training went well? | |
| 19:29 | cait | i hope so :) |
| 19:29 | tomorrow is the hard part - serials and acq | |
| 19:32 | nuentoter | what the training for? |
| 19:32 | if you don't mind me asking | |
| 19:33 | caroline | phew, yeah serials and acq are hard to teach (I think it would be hard to teach in any system) |
| 19:35 | cait | nuentoter: trainign a new library in using Koha |
| 19:36 | yeah and i think they are not using acq right now, will see ihow it goes tomorrow | |
| 19:36 | nuentoter | oh yeah, thankfully here its only me and one employee that I gotta train on things. can't imagine having to do a full staff |
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| 20:06 | kidclamp | bye koha! |
| 20:09 | Joubu | @later tell kidclamp follow-up attached on bug 15486 to fix GetHardDueDate.t! <3 |
| 20:09 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:10 | * cait | waves |
| 20:12 | cait | rangi++ |
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| 20:15 | Joubu | Do this bug report makes sense? bug 21651 |
| 20:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21651 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Force insert of notices related tables during the install process |
| 20:17 | cait | i thought they already were mandatory |
| 20:17 | :) | |
| 20:22 | Joubu | they are in "mandatory", but can be unselected |
| 20:22 | I let you imagine what happens if you do not select them but select notices.sql... | |
| 20:25 | cait | but that's true for all the mandatory |
| 20:25 | that you can unselect | |
| 20:26 | vpn sec | |
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| 20:27 | waves | |
| 21:01 | Joubu | cait1: others in mandatory are auth_values.sql class_sources.sql sample_frequencies.sql sample_notices.sql sample_numberpatterns.sql |
| 21:02 | cait1 | hm i think you don't really NEED any of these... maybe notices as some things don't look good when there is no template |
| 21:02 | Joubu | they need translation anyway, so cannot be move out of this dir |
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| 22:01 | barton | https://i.imgur.com/FUQ8V17.jpg |
| 22:02 | caroline | barton lol! |
| 22:02 | CrispyBran | Good luck with that. |
| 22:03 | barton | Yeah, I should have made it 'REINDEX ZEBRA', but I think 'rebuild' scans better. |
| 22:08 | CrispyBran | @seen tcohen |
| 22:08 | huginn | CrispyBran: tcohen was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 21 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <tcohen> yes, but you might need to generate functions, but hey, this is not the case |
| 22:09 | CrispyBran | @seen mtompset |
| 22:09 | huginn | CrispyBran: mtompset was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 9 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <mtompset> https://gitlab.com/koha-community/kohadevbox |
| 22:09 | CrispyBran | @seen Joubu |
| 22:09 | huginn | CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Joubu> they need translation anyway, so cannot be move out of this dir |
| 22:11 | CrispyBran | @seen rangi |
| 22:11 | huginn | CrispyBran: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <rangi> they have them in australia and i have to go there next month, so maybe i can find it then |
| 22:27 | caroline | bye #koha! |
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| 23:03 | CrispyBran | bye #koha |
| 23:07 | Margaret | good night #koha |
| 23:11 | dcook | barton: "This. Is. Koha!" |
| 23:14 | Mmm breakfast sandwiches are the best | |
| 23:17 | barton | dcook: I think you need more caps. but it's morning there, so I get it if you're chill. |
| 23:21 | irma__ joined #koha | |
| 23:24 | dcook | So chill right now. Stomach full and quite content. |
| 23:28 | mtompset | Is there like the THX Dolby Digital Theatre surround sound going on with your "This. Is. Koha!" |
| 23:29 | dcook, what do you consider a breakfast sandwich? | |
| 23:29 | English muffin, egg (poached or scrambled) and sausage/bacon? | |
| 23:30 | possibly with cheddar cheese? | |
| 23:30 | maybe on a homemade biscuit or croissant instead? | |
| 23:46 | dcook | Oh I should have said breakfast wrap |
| 23:47 | Fried egg, cheese, sausage, bacon, bbq sauce. Maybe something else I'm forgetting. | |
| 23:47 | Aussies have tasty breakfasts | |
| 23:57 | joubu mentions wanting to build a background task daemon and dcook just word vomits all over Bugzilla to him... *facepalm* | |
| 23:57 | * dcook | is just so excited at the idea of having proper background job processing |
| 23:58 | dcook | Or more proper at least |
| 23:58 | properer? :p |
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