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| 05:37 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 05:40 | dcook | hey marcelr and cait1 |
| 05:40 | marcelr | hi dcook cait1 |
| 05:41 | dcook | heh I was just about to write a fix but saw you already did it last year, marcelr |
| 05:42 | marcelr | a fix? |
| 05:42 | dcook | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19190 |
| 05:42 | huginn | Bug 19190: trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Silly calculation of average time in touch_all scripts |
| 05:42 | marcelr | ok |
| 05:42 | i left a few others for you :) | |
| 05:42 | dcook | lol |
| 05:43 | Excellent | |
| 05:44 | Actually I have a QA question... | |
| 05:44 | I had a problem in the inventory module and found https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19021 | |
| 05:44 | huginn | Bug 19021: minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, CLOSED FIXED, Inventory column sorting |
| 05:44 | dcook | And while the patch works... I don't know that it's the right solution? |
| 05:45 | But it's already pushed | |
| 05:45 | marcelr | new report ? |
| 05:45 | dcook | Yeah? |
| 05:45 | I don't have an alternate patch. Rather, I think it's a data issue. | |
| 05:45 | But still worth a new report? | |
| 05:46 | marcelr | datatables and parameters is horrible |
| 05:46 | dcook | And then just do a "see also" for 19021? |
| 05:46 | marcelr | yeah |
| 05:46 | dcook | Cool. I'll do that then. |
| 05:46 | It might be that someone has a code idea as well | |
| 05:47 | I certainly would appreciate another set of eyes on it as I'm not very familiar with the call number sorting code | |
| 05:48 | marcelr | there will be (at some point) |
| 05:48 | we only need patience | |
| 05:49 | dcook | That makes sense |
| 05:49 | I might email the list as well as it might be that people have experienced the same problem | |
| 05:49 | marcelr | yeah some advertizing might help |
| 05:50 | dcook | Basically, I think the method for generating items.cn_sort changed at some point but existing items weren't updated and it led to inconsistent values which causes a problem in the inventory item lists |
| 05:50 | I'm just struggling to find the exact code responsible for generating the value.. | |
| 05:50 | touch_all_items.pl solves the data problem after the fact though it seems | |
| 05:50 | marcelr | adding a dbrev to update them now? |
| 05:50 | dcook | I was thinking that, but I don't know if that would work for large libraries? |
| 05:51 | marcelr | if it must be done? |
| 05:51 | dcook | If there are a million or more items, I wonder if it might time out |
| 05:51 | marcelr | they may not run from the web but on command line |
| 05:52 | dcook | Mmm good point |
| 05:52 | I forgot about that | |
| 05:52 | And here I was thinking that Kohacon18 taught me to consider more workflows than just mine heh | |
| 05:53 | Thanks for the feedback, marcelr. I'll do as you suggest. | |
| 05:53 | marcelr | success |
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| 06:12 | ashimema | Lol |
| 06:16 | I Dev the same way as you dcook | |
| 06:16 | dcook | Heh |
| 06:16 | I was wondering about that lol, but I'm guessing it was related to that tweet? | |
| 06:17 | ashimema | Just read your post |
| 06:17 | dcook | Nice heh |
| 06:17 | I'm sure many of us do it that way | |
| 06:17 | ashimema | I'm still running a good ol' Dev install |
| 06:17 | dcook | I tried my test plan for 10662 at Kohacon with a kohadevbox and I was like "how the hell did I ever think this would work?" |
| 06:18 | I do like my dev install though heh | |
| 06:18 | ashimema | I tried gitify for a while but found it somewhat restrictive in the types of patches I could write and test |
| 06:18 | dcook | Same |
| 06:18 | Really restrictive for what I needed really | |
| 06:18 | ashimema | Bug 10662 |
| 06:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
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| 06:18 | dcook | Just need to find time to fix the comments from QA.. |
| 06:19 | * dcook | waves to fridolin |
| 06:19 | ashimema | I like deving on a remote server.. switching back to the local workflow would be a bit painfuk |
| 06:19 | dcook | I know what you mean |
| 06:19 | Although at Kohacon it was essential | |
| 06:19 | fridolin | dcook: bonjour |
| 06:19 | dcook | salut :) |
| 06:19 | Actually, the wifi at Kohacon18 was pretty good | |
| 06:19 | ashimema | Mmm, for events like that it tends to be |
| 06:19 | dcook | The guest wifi was a million times better than home internet in Australia >_< |
| 06:20 | calire | mornin #koha |
| 06:20 | ashimema | The Marseille hackfest tends to be the main place I revert to local dev |
| 06:20 | dcook | Actually, at home we do have fibre but we just pay for a really low speed plan... |
| 06:20 | * dcook | waves to calire too |
| 06:20 | dcook | Yeah, I'm keen to do the Marseille hackfest too in 2019.. |
| 06:20 | I'm actually really liking koha-testing-docker these days | |
| 06:21 | ashimema | I should investing koha-testing-docker again really |
| 06:21 | Haha | |
| 06:21 | dcook | heh |
| 06:21 | ashimema | Yeah |
| 06:21 | dcook | I really like it |
| 06:21 | I've been thinking since January how I wanted to Dockerize more of my development and testing | |
| 06:21 | I have 1 project that requires a VM at the moment, but I spent some time Dockerizing it yesterday | |
| 06:21 | Although that one... | |
| 06:22 | Sometimes I'd want a minimal database and sometimes I'd want one with like... a 100+GB database | |
| 06:22 | ashimema | Right, time to do some breakfast..catch you another time |
| 06:22 | dcook | I guess I could handle that with runtime options though.. |
| 06:22 | ashimema | Haha, fun |
| 06:22 | dcook | Sounds good. Nice catching you |
| 06:27 | calire | hey dcook |
| 06:29 | marcelr | hi calire |
| 06:30 | calire | hey marcelr |
| 06:36 | cait1 | dcook: we haven't touched the cn_sort code in forever - depending on what you use maybe the dependency was updated? i think ddc/loc modules for generating the sorting are external libraries |
| 06:36 | bbiab | |
| 06:37 | at least i know for sure loc is as we recently had to fix a wrong configuration | |
| 06:37 | dcook | cait1: oooo that's really interesting and explains why I was struggling to find Koha code for generating the values |
| 06:37 | d'oh | |
| 06:38 | @later tell cait1 I'd love to hear about your experience with the loc for call numbers. I'm using ddc but I feel like a dependency issue makes sense | |
| 06:38 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:46 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:55 | matts | hi! |
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| 07:03 | calire | hi matts, hi reiveune |
| 07:03 | matts | hi calire :) |
| 07:03 | reiveune | hi calire |
| 07:04 | calire | o/ :) |
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| 07:07 | paxed | cait1: seriously, you have articles from serials as component records? that's ... |
| 07:08 | cait1 | paxed: special libraries, academics... not publics |
| 07:08 | for example the law libraries do that, they have divided up which library does which serials | |
| 07:08 | we have libraries where a large percentage of the total records are analytics | |
| 07:09 | dcook: still around? | |
| 07:09 | paxed | cait1: ah. still seems weird, imo. |
| 07:09 | cait1 | you need to have the staff to do it |
| 07:09 | we also have a library who provides data for a database of their field | |
| 07:10 | a huge part of what they do is creating those records, adding subjects to them etc. | |
| 07:12 | paxed | cait1: like you said, the issue level is missing from between. how do they know which issue contains which article? |
| 07:12 | cait1 | it's in the 773 |
| 07:12 | paxed | okay... |
| 07:13 | cait1 | 393346 results that are anyltics |
| 07:13 | analytics | |
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| 07:15 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 07:18 | calire | hi tuxayo |
| 07:18 | marcelr | hi tuxayo |
| 07:19 | tuxayo | o/ calire marcelr |
| 07:19 | marcelr | cait1: 10382 remains a hard one |
| 07:20 | cait1 | bug 10382 |
| 07:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves |
| 07:20 | cait1 | i was hoping to see it finally fixed |
| 07:20 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:20 | cait1 | do we need the same fix for location btw? |
| 07:20 | marcelr | it should fix that one too |
| 07:20 | matts | hi cait1. I still stand by my sign-off on bug 17776. And I completely agree with ashimema 's last comment. However, I'm not a system administrator, and this is a system issue. |
| 07:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack |
| 07:21 | cait1 | matts: can you please comment that? |
| 07:21 | matts | cait1, sure thing. |
| 07:21 | cait1 | trying to unravel the shibboleth mess |
| 07:22 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 07:23 | cait1 | looks like the automatic conversion of sql fails for all our reports :( |
| 07:23 | biblio_metadata | |
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| 07:28 | * dcook | perks up at mention of his name |
| 07:29 | dcook | cait1: yep still here for 30 minutes |
| 07:32 | ashimema | cait1 |
| 07:32 | or is it now cait | |
| 07:32 | cait1 | just wondering if you had a question |
| 07:32 | hm | |
| 07:32 | ashimema | I forget what time of day she metamorphises |
| 07:32 | cait1 | i don't notice being different people |
| 07:33 | ashimema | hehe |
| 07:33 | split personalities are rarely aware of each other as far as I'm aware ;) | |
| 07:34 | cait1 | oh |
| 07:34 | who is nicer? | |
| 07:34 | ashimema | hehe |
| 07:34 | right now I like cait1.. she talked to me lots yesterday :) | |
| 07:34 | and is working to get shibboleth through :) | |
| 07:35 | every now and then that cait2 comes along.. she's a deadkill.. always failing qa on my patches | |
| 07:35 | hahaha | |
| 07:37 | cait1 | i once had someone explaint o me they liked cait more than kf |
| 07:37 | like seriously | |
| 07:37 | ashimema | lol |
| 07:37 | I like cait in all her guises | |
| 07:39 | * ashimema | is amazed at how quickly code becomes foreign to him... |
| 07:39 | ashimema | I only wrote this patch a few months ago.. it's like another language now |
| 07:39 | cait1 | was thinking the same abotu my database updte for granular admin permissions this morning |
| 07:40 | ashimema | Crazy isn't it |
| 07:41 | marcelr | i saw that code before :) |
| 07:41 | o did i write it? | |
| 07:42 | ashimema | Lots of code archaeology the last few days with people resurrecting patches.. has been fun |
| 07:42 | Hehe | |
| 07:42 | marcelr | what is fun? |
| 07:43 | paxed | cait1: yes, the automatic sql report conversion isn't very good, most of our reports also failed |
| 07:44 | * dcook | hasn't seen kf in a loooong time |
| 07:48 | cait1 | that's because oftc doesn't like 2 character nicks |
| 07:50 | i couldn't reserve it and someone kept taking it | |
| 07:50 | marcelr | kaef? |
| 07:52 | dcook | Boo |
| 07:52 | ashimema | i contemplated mrr or martinr.. but ashimema has more mistique to him |
| 07:52 | marcelr | and others too |
| 07:52 | dcook | heh |
| 07:53 | ashimema does seem a bit mysterious | |
| 07:53 | marcelr | right |
| 07:53 | ashimema | hehe |
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| 08:17 | * magnuse | lacks the imagination to come up with mysterious nicks |
| 08:18 | ashimema | haha.. I didn't come up with mine.. my original ISP did.. it was the password they gave me for my vrey first email address.. of course I changed it immediatly but the random set of character sounded cool so it stuck in my head |
| 08:18 | ashimema was born | |
| 08:18 | wow.. 20 or so years ago now | |
| 08:19 | magnuse | hehe, cool |
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| 08:21 | marcelr | ashimema: you revealed the secret |
| 08:21 | public domain now | |
| 08:21 | ashimema | hehe |
| 08:21 | yup | |
| 08:21 | marcelr | hope you didnt change it to ashimema23 |
| 08:22 | ashimema | haha |
| 08:22 | the email address in question is long gone | |
| 08:22 | marcelr | but passwords stay longer |
| 08:22 | ashimema | actually, it was my shorted lived email address ever |
| 08:24 | right.. on that note I best get this ES demo setup.. gotta try and sell ES to the company next week.. well.. gotta sell it to myself first ;) | |
| 08:25 | marcelr | jajm around |
| 08:25 | cast(-2 as unsigned) == 18446744073709551614 | |
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| 08:34 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:34 | * cait1 | waves back |
| 08:35 | jajm | marcelr, yes |
| 08:36 | andreashm | hi cait jajm |
| 08:36 | matts: around? | |
| 08:37 | matts | andreashm, around indeed. |
| 08:37 | jajm | hi andreashm |
| 08:38 | ashimema | sorry cait.. I'm really not helping move bug 21427 forward am I |
| 08:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Format prices on ordered/spent lists |
| 08:38 | marcelr | jajm: i want to switch to signed on bug 18736 |
| 08:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18736 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, BLOCKED , Problems in order calculations (rounding errors) |
| 08:38 | ashimema | we need kidclamp to weight in as he's been working on the rounding errors bug |
| 08:38 | this is the same issue effectively | |
| 08:39 | marcelr | heh i am on 18736 now |
| 08:39 | cait1 | i am a little lost there right now |
| 08:40 | ashimema: my thing is i think adding them up exatly will probably work | |
| 08:40 | because the values from the db are usually ok, we add up without doing tax calculations and stuff like that | |
| 08:40 | adding up db values shoudl work ok | |
| 08:41 | marcelr | cait1, ashimema i think 21427 should wait for 18736 first |
| 08:41 | cait1 | opposed to doing tax calcuations and then add up |
| 08:41 | marcelr | 18736 uses a module |
| 08:41 | no sprintfs in scripts | |
| 08:41 | cait1 | all iwanted was a comma heh |
| 08:41 | :) | |
| 08:42 | marcelr | a lot of time was spent on 18736 already |
| 08:42 | cait1 | maybe we should not make display and calculation the same thing? |
| 08:42 | marcelr | thats a point |
| 08:43 | it is also a matter of making a choice and keeping with it.. | |
| 08:43 | cait1 | hm? |
| 08:43 | marcelr | which is hard in open source |
| 08:43 | design choices | |
| 08:44 | ashimema | indeed |
| 08:44 | sorry.. just been called into my meeting.. I'm 10 mins late | |
| 08:44 | oops | |
| 08:47 | hows 18736 going marcelr | |
| 08:48 | calire | naughty :D |
| 08:48 | ashimema | it was a hard slog when I started looking at it.. think it's changed qa hands a few times now.. with each of us spotting bits the last person didn't |
| 08:48 | marcelr | still working on it ashimema |
| 08:48 | ashimema | still.. hopefully it'll result in a consistent patch |
| 08:49 | I'm not sure I like some of the fundamentals.. but it's a step in the right direction I think | |
| 08:49 | marcelr | more consistency |
| 08:49 | ashimema | indeed |
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| 08:49 | marcelr | if we are doing it wrong, lets do it in one spot |
| 08:49 | ashimema | exactly |
| 08:51 | cait1 | i haven't checked it out, but i hope from your comments |
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| 09:00 | ashimema | matts: thanks for the shib comments.. I think they're really helping move this one forward.. combined front and all that.. I'm happy the questions are being asked but also happy to see your in agreement with me on the answers :) |
| 09:01 | matts | sure :) |
| 09:04 | andreashm | is there one or more shib bugs being worked on? |
| 09:04 | * andreashm | could search Bugzilla, but is lazy |
| 09:05 | ashimema | jajm has been doing a marvelous job of working through the list :) |
| 09:06 | cait1 | andreashm: working on a resolve for the 'shibboleth under plack' problem |
| 09:06 | there is also shibboelth for staff in the works | |
| 09:06 | matts | andreashm, yep, there's stuff happening on 18506 18507 and 12027 |
| 09:06 | cait1 | and i think something about provisioning/sync, ashimema? |
| 09:06 | andreashm | both would be great for us. keep at it! =) |
| 09:07 | thanks matts | |
| 09:14 | ashimema | add 19625 to that list above.. i've just QA'd it |
| 09:14 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]graph.cgi?id=8446 | |
| 09:16 | andreashm | thanks ashimema |
| 09:39 | A bit off topic, and not Koha related, but is there any space (slack, irc or other?) for more informal Coral discussions, other that github and the Coral mailinglists? ping matts calire paul_p | |
| 09:40 | matts | andreashm, there's a #coral-erm chan on freenode, but it's not really used. So I'd stick with the mailing lists or git for the moment. |
| 09:41 | calire | andreashm I had been wondering the same thing |
| 09:41 | * andreashm | likes slack. should we start one? =) |
| 09:41 | matts | But if you all join the freenode chan, it can become a thing :) |
| 09:42 | * andreashm | should join there first I guess |
| 09:43 | andreashm | matts++ |
| 09:45 | calire | how do I get on the freenode channel -.- |
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| 09:47 | andreashm | calire: I was wondering the same. |
| 09:47 | calire | I got in through the web browser, but couldn't make pidgin accept it |
| 09:48 | * andreashm | usually uses the web-chat for irc |
| 09:48 | cait1 | might be our firewall |
| 09:48 | calire | then just freenode.not |
| 09:48 | .net | |
| 09:49 | andreashm | ah, thanks |
| 10:36 | ashimema | erm |
| 10:36 | anyone here especially good with TT filters and how they apply? | |
| 10:36 | I've got this code in a rebase | |
| 10:36 | `[% request.orderid || "N/A" | html %]` | |
| 10:36 | it doesn't look right to me.. but I can't put my finger on it. | |
| 10:58 | it's not oleonard awake time yet is it? | |
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| 11:01 | paxed | ashimema: i think that's valid, but putting it like [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] might make it clearer? |
| 11:05 | cait1 | back |
| 11:07 | agree with paxed | |
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| 11:30 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:31 | eythian | hi oleopard |
| 11:34 | ashimema | cheers |
| 11:34 | yeay, oleonard :) | |
| 11:35 | I just rebased 20640 again for you.. hopefully you might have a moment to test it again :) | |
| 11:35 | AndrewIsh: said you were keen at some point? | |
| 11:36 | it's a lovely enhancement in my opinion.. but rebasing it each time screws with my brain (and andrewish's) | |
| 11:37 | andreashm | bug 20640 |
| 11:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Allow migrating a request between backends |
| 11:37 | AndrewIsh | Heh heh, oleonard made the mistake of raising his head above the parapet with regards to ILL recently. Also, magnuse might be interested in taking a look? |
| 11:37 | ashimema | as a side note.. anyone got any opinions on how I can write tests for these enhancements to ILL.. even once we've moved backends to Plugins ILL isn't testable without at least one backend installed.. or I suppose Mocked |
| 11:37 | hmm.. | |
| 11:37 | * ashimema | wonders about mocking backends.. that could work |
| 11:38 | ashimema | I'm hopeing I can add tests as late followups.. save the lack of tests holding back QA |
| 11:38 | * oleonard | loaded a bunch of dummy ILL data into his test system and feels empowered to test |
| 11:39 | ashimema | awesome |
| 11:39 | AndrewIsh | oleonard++ |
| 11:43 | cait1 | oleonard: share your tricks? :) |
| 11:58 | oleonard | Maybe I spoke too soon... getting an error that looks like it might be a data problem |
| 11:58 | Duplicate ID at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73 | |
| 12:05 | magnuse | is the N/A in [% (request.orderid || "N/A") | html %] translateable? |
| 12:10 | cait1 | magnuse: hah! |
| 12:10 | no idea, but that's a really good question | |
| 12:16 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 12:16 | * ashimema | cries at magnuse asking that |
| 12:16 | ashimema | I have no idea |
| 12:17 | I can't remember is orderid is numeric or a string to be honest either | |
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| 12:19 | cait1 | oderid is not hte problem |
| 12:19 | it's numeric and a database value | |
| 12:19 | but n/a = not available is not he same in every language | |
| 12:20 | my guess it.... it's probably a bad idea doing that | |
| 12:20 | ashimema | indeed |
| 12:20 | cait1 | and it would be something like [% IF ( request.orderid ) %] ... [% ELSE %] ... instead |
| 12:20 | hm maybe if it'sill not numeric... but still a database value so shoudl be ok | |
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| 12:46 | caroline | Good morning! |
| 12:50 | calire | hi caroline |
| 13:00 | * cait1 | sends fridolin cookies |
| 13:03 | oleonard | jajm++ # Thanks-to: The Rebellion for being very supportive |
| 13:04 | cait1 | lol |
| 13:09 | ashimema | how does that look for release notes cait1 |
| 13:10 | cait1 | hm? |
| 13:10 | magnuse | AndrewIsh++ |
| 13:10 | cait1 | there is this bugzilla input on the left, did you see? |
| 13:10 | oh you did | |
| 13:10 | AndrewIsh | magnuse++ |
| 13:10 | cait1 | sorry, reading now |
| 13:10 | ashimema | on the left.. I thought it was on the right |
| 13:10 | cait1 | AndrewIsh: we got a date on Friday, right? :) |
| 13:10 | ashimema: :P | |
| 13:10 | ashimema | that's where I've entered it ;) |
| 13:10 | AndrewIsh | cait1: Apparently so :-D |
| 13:11 | jajm | oleonard, :) |
| 13:11 | cait1 | ashimema: it#s ok, but maybe bit cryptic to reference the POD? |
| 13:12 | people might not know what POD is, i get asked often | |
| 13:12 | ashimema | ok |
| 13:13 | cait1 | brb |
| 13:14 | caroline | POD: prince of darkness? payable on death? https://www.abbreviations.com/POD |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Thanks-to: The prince of darkness for being very supportive |
| 13:15 | caroline | LOL |
| 13:16 | ashimema | haha |
| 13:20 | cait1 | lol |
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| 13:31 | * magnuse | hopes he got the patches on bug 20996 right now |
| 13:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20996 normal, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Fix API response time on ILL request endpoint |
| 13:54 | * cait1 | loves the star wars example |
| 13:54 | cait1 | jajm++ |
| 13:54 | ashimema | huh |
| 13:55 | cait1 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]22041&oldid=20964 |
| 13:57 | magnuse | star wars? |
| 13:57 | lulz | |
| 13:57 | jajm++ | |
| 13:58 | ashimema | nice :) |
| 13:58 | I added that as a topic for the next dev meeting :) | |
| 13:58 | awesome to see jajm moving it forward | |
| 14:00 | magnuse | hm. shouldn't items.datelastseen always be the same as or more recent than items.datelastborrowed? |
| 14:00 | oleonard | calire++ |
| 14:01 | * calire | bows |
| 14:01 | calire | (what I do?) |
| 14:02 | oleonard | You did a good email |
| 14:02 | calire | oh good, it came through XD |
| 14:07 | caroline | Ooh! Love the new look calire and oleonard! |
| 14:07 | calire | thanks caroline :) |
| 14:07 | caroline | Such an upgrade from the grey/black |
| 14:08 | ashimema | yup, very nice |
| 14:08 | I approve | |
| 14:10 | calire | :) |
| 14:10 | magnuse | +1 |
| 14:11 | ashimema | you asked for feedback.. added a future enhancement request after JD's comment ;) |
| 14:11 | caroline | We have a lot of complaints for the look of the details, that they are hard to read. We added custom CSS to make it into a table http://santecom-test.hapax.inl[…]Cwrdl%3A%20cancer |
| 14:12 | calire | ashimema, yes a dark mode was requested at the hackfest in Portland ;) |
| 14:12 | caroline | (I don't include myself in that "we", it's just my colleagues) |
| 14:13 | Is this something we could include in a future version? | |
| 14:13 | ashimema | we have done simlar for customers a few times |
| 14:13 | calires former employers for example: https://ual-test-upgrade.koha-ptfs.co.uk/ | |
| 14:14 | see 'Screen Options' on the right | |
| 14:14 | though their themes are somewhat accessability minded | |
| 14:14 | calire | yes I remember the screen options |
| 14:14 | ashimema | you either love them or hate them.. eye's bleed at times in my opinion with some of those |
| 14:15 | calire | XD |
| 14:15 | I appreciate what they are for | |
| 14:15 | ashimema | 'default' and 'cream' are nice enough.. but the other two.. yuk |
| 14:15 | oleonard | That black with yellow text theme is bullying me. |
| 14:16 | calire | black with yellow is I cannot deal with |
| 14:16 | ashimema | hehe |
| 14:16 | that's the 'Make my eyes bleed' theme to the max ;) | |
| 14:16 | Freddy_Enrique | Good morning all |
| 14:16 | hi Caroline and ashimema | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | I did a theme years ago for the dyslexia action group UK.. |
| 14:17 | that was really nice and very accessible with options like that | |
| 14:17 | but not eye bleeding | |
| 14:17 | shame.. they nuked it at an upgrade whilst I was on other projects | |
| 14:17 | it used special fonts and various pastel contrasts | |
| 14:17 | anywho.. moving on ;) | |
| 14:18 | calire | accessibility is important |
| 14:19 | caroline, is it the library users or library staff (who are also users) who found the detail page hard to read? | |
| 14:24 | caroline | calire: I only talk to library staff through my job, I don't know if they speak only on behalf of themselves or if they're relaying complaints from their users |
| 14:24 | calire | caroline: fair enough :) |
| 14:24 | caroline | Hello Freddy_Enrique! |
| 14:25 | calire | caroline: the table is easy to read |
| 14:25 | oleonard | This doesn't make sense to me: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15381445630198 |
| 14:26 | Renew -- "Not allowed: overdue" ... but the item isn't overdue | |
| 14:26 | calire | oleonard: I feel like I have see that before, but I cannot remember why |
| 14:26 | * calire | is helpful |
| 14:27 | calire | (like when people ask questions on amazon and someone answers with 'I don't know, I didn't buy this') |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Oh wait, it was the OverduesBlockRenewing preference. Any overdue blocked all renewals. |
| 14:27 | calire | aha |
| 14:27 | aaah yes | |
| 14:28 | so glad I could help | |
| 14:28 | caroline | hehe! |
| 14:30 | Has anyone ever worked on a project to make editing the xslt easy for end users? (My colleagues laugh at me when I mention this) | |
| 14:30 | * Freddy_Enrique | want to ask something... |
| 14:30 | caroline | I'd love library staff to be able to tweak their own record display |
| 14:31 | Freddy_Enrique: go ahead! | |
| 14:31 | Freddy_Enrique | I just noticed that I do not know to much about you guys. Do you have a...dont know, professional profile? |
| 14:31 | I feel anonymous sometimes.... | |
| 14:31 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: This is a start: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 14:31 | calire | darn, oleonard was faster |
| 14:32 | caroline | That's my reference too |
| 14:32 | calire | but yes, the irc regulars page has some basic infos |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ommunity_Facebook |
| 14:32 | oleonard | ...which is getting out of date, sadly. |
| 14:32 | Freddy_Enrique | OMG, its been a while since I am part of this channel and just asked this basic stuff |
| 14:33 | * Freddy_Enrique | feel ashamed |
| 14:33 | ashimema | wow.. I have changed so little from that photo... |
| 14:33 | caroline | Ooh that Facebook page would have been really helpful before Kohacon... I was stalking a couple of you on linkedin to try to find pictures so I could recognize you |
| 14:33 | Freddy_Enrique | oleonard++ |
| 14:33 | * ashimema | says realising he's sitting here wearing the exact same t-shirt! |
| 14:34 | calire | caroline, were you my 'someone is looking at your profile' |
| 14:34 | caroline | maybe! Lol! |
| 14:34 | oleonard | ashimema: Haha, same! |
| 14:34 | calire | ashimema, I hope you changed it since |
| 14:34 | caroline | I relaized not a lot of ppl put their picture on linkedin |
| 14:34 | ashimema | hehe |
| 14:35 | ooh.. not seen LibraryClaire in a while | |
| 14:35 | * calire | waves |
| 14:35 | ashimema | ;) |
| 14:35 | calire | :P |
| 14:35 | Freddy_Enrique | I wanna know which one of you is a dev geek and which are librarians |
| 14:35 | * ashimema | suggests she updates the facebook ;) |
| 14:35 | calire | oh yeah, could change that |
| 14:35 | * ashimema | misses atheia |
| 14:35 | * calire | too |
| 14:36 | oleonard | I miss atheia and I only met him once! |
| 14:37 | ashimema | I'd hire him back in an instant.. but he's moved on to other things |
| 14:38 | Freddy_Enrique | wahanui - info bot, greeter, troller.....troller?? |
| 14:38 | XD | |
| 14:39 | calire | wahanui confuses many |
| 14:40 | Freddy_Enrique | As you know... I am a librarian. But little by little learning beyond the koha management. Is it possible to add my name there? |
| 14:40 | ashimema | certainly |
| 14:40 | add away :) | |
| 14:40 | Freddy_Enrique | Or, is it just for dev? |
| 14:40 | calire | it's for everyone |
| 14:40 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: I didn't know you were a librarian! More of us! |
| 14:41 | ashimema | it was originally added at a Marseille Hackfest... where librarians and developers are already invited together |
| 14:41 | so it's a mix in there already :) | |
| 14:41 | Freddy_Enrique | Yeah... a linux geek, peruavian librarian |
| 14:42 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:42 | Freddy_Enrique | My hearth goes for the pinguin |
| 14:42 | * ashimema | loved his visit to peru a few years back |
| 14:42 | Freddy_Enrique | :o |
| 14:43 | Glad you enjoyed it :3 | |
| 14:43 | And if you are into treking, really sure you enjoyed the landscapes | |
| 14:45 | reiveune | bye |
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| 14:50 | cait1 | caroline: i did the same with you - stalking for a photo |
| 14:50 | hm i need to put a new photo there... the hair... ugh. and new glasses :) | |
| 14:51 | caroline | My linkedin photo is old but I guess I look pretty much the same |
| 14:52 | * ashimema | wonders what cait looks like now.. in my head you still look like that picture ;) |
| 14:52 | cait1 | ashimema: not that much different |
| 14:52 | shorter hair and new glasses :) | |
| 14:52 | Freddy_Enrique: librarian :) | |
| 14:53 | sorry... just reading back, you all talked so much while i was doing this other thing | |
| 14:53 | ashimema | oleonard still about? |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:53 | ashimema | lol.. sorry cait |
| 14:53 | I'm chatty today | |
| 14:54 | what away around were you testing the migrate but? | |
| 14:54 | from what backend to what backend? | |
| 14:54 | I'm just re-wrapping my head around this code.. it's been ages since I've properly dug into it | |
| 14:54 | also.. I will add a test plan.. | |
| 14:54 | * ashimema | is naughty :( |
| 14:55 | oleonard | ashimema: I think it was FreeForm -> Dummy |
| 14:55 | ashimema | ah.. |
| 14:55 | interesting | |
| 14:55 | thanks | |
| 14:55 | * ashimema | checks Dummy.. I'm not sure if it's implimented there yet.. my bad |
| 14:56 | Freddy_Enrique | :cait1 yeeey |
| 14:56 | oleonard | ashimema: So, the test plan... :D |
| 14:57 | * Freddy_Enrique | turns into reading mode |
| 14:57 | Freddy_Enrique | There I go Koha wiki |
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| 15:03 | kidclamp | bug 21450 |
| 15:03 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21450 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , link_bibs_to_authorities.pl is caching searches without the auth type |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | ^ that was a nasty bug |
| 15:10 | cait1 | kidclamp: now you are ignoring me ;) |
| 15:11 | kidclamp | where did you ping me? |
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| 17:23 | caroline | Does Undefined subroutine &C4::Items::ModZebra mean I have to install C4::Items::ModZebra? |
| 17:24 | I'm trying to test bug 10382 but when I disable the course, I get this error | |
| 17:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10382 critical, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Needs Signoff , collection not returning to null when removed from course reserves |
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| 18:04 | kidclamp | It's an occasional problem where Koha doesn't know which file to look in - the general solutions is to fully qualify the function call caroline |
| 18:04 | caroline | fully qualify the function call? |
| 18:06 | Is that something I can do while testing and if so how? | |
| 18:14 | * caroline | thinks she'll just go back to documentation instead of trying to sign off |
| 18:16 | kidclamp | heh, no, is for a dev, or try on a different machine, I don't knwo what causes it |
| 18:43 | oleonard | Anyone want to try Bug 20809 again? |
| 18:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Link patron image to patron image add/edit form |
| 18:46 | oleonard | Happy weekend everyone |
| 18:47 | ashimema | caroline++ looks to be an a testing spree.. thank you 😃 |
| 18:47 | caroline | yeah, I was eager but gave up. |
| 18:47 | Back to the manual | |
| 18:48 | ashimema | I'm also really happy and impressed with manual improvements too |
| 18:49 | caroline | It needs love still. And I don't want the docs team to be stuck in a crazy documenting spree in november |
| 18:50 | ashimema | I'm slowly onboarding our bods 😉 |
| 18:51 | caroline | yass! |
| 18:51 | ashimema | Going to put forward next week at our company meeting that one of them join the team.. see what the boss people say |
| 18:51 | For the next cycle that is | |
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| 19:44 | caroline | Native English speakers, does that sentence make sense in English? "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up window will appear automatically upon checkin of a reserved item." |
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| 19:45 | cait1 | checking in a reserved item? (not a native speaker) |
| 19:46 | caroline | upon checking in a reserved item? |
| 19:46 | yeah, it sounds better | |
| 19:46 | cait1 | where are the native speakers? |
| 19:46 | caroline | on weekend? |
| 19:47 | cait1 | ah |
| 19:47 | caroline | I was actually looking for comments on the part "holds slip print pop-up window" it doesn't sound good in my head |
| 19:48 | cait1 | maybe we could scratch window? |
| 19:48 | pop-up is a thing already... isn't it? | |
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| 19:48 | caroline | the holds slip print pop-up will appear |
| 19:50 | I wasn't sure of holds slip print pop-up vs holds print slip pop-up | |
| 19:50 | cait1 | i wouldn't overthink it |
| 19:50 | ok now i am not too :) | |
| 19:50 | caroline | rangi can always refuse my commit if it doesn't make any sense |
| 19:50 | cait1 | he could, but he probably would |
| 19:51 | * caroline | is denying any responsibility for that sentence |
| 19:51 | cait1 | wouldn't |
| 19:51 | hehe | |
| 19:51 | he is a terrible proof reader | |
| 19:51 | :) | |
| 19:51 | caroline | XD |
| 19:52 | think I can ping some english natives? Is it too late in the evening? | |
| 19:52 | for a friday evening | |
| 19:52 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]090773197c495b918> |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: (QA follow-up) Use Modern::Perl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0d16ac59dca6261e> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21416: 'gr' option missing from ZEBRA_LANGUAGE options in koha-sites.conf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e32ee3e7ca050e75f> | |
| 19:52 | cait1 | why not? they won't answer if they are not around :) |
| 19:52 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21407: Can't enter new macros in the advanced cataloging editor (rancor) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0389de7a6d85fda05> |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21398: Make search field mandatory when adding to a basket from an existing record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]08af1fb67fd16f982> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21396: Add 2 missing use statements in Koha::Account <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8cb3f1953f424e0aa> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Use accounttype.inc for generating account description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45ed8c23a9f29eb26> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21167: (QA follow-up) Fix amount formatting on invoice receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5b74c5416d2cb95a> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Handle framework code properly also when adding a new record <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]021b60e4075641e49> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Minor CSS change for the advanced editor Settings menu <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f0dc4b7fdd26db6b> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Make the svc/bib service keep the existing framework code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bcedd0736725f699> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Add framework support to advanced MARC editor <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2d2f16e3e3bc3e29> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21297: Display public lists to existing lists when adding a new item <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]127d20b466e1ea023> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 20785: Advanced Editor does not honor MarcFieldDocURL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dd9182203b1481831> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 20241: Fix display of publication year in subscription record search for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4cd8000a12425281> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21167: Fix price formatting on printed fee invoice and receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9fd501114902a0176> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21078: overdrive.js Catch error if window.opener is not accessible <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]602246891c19d9522> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16739: Show note instead of 500 error for 'Generate EDIFACT' when no EDI account... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]442148c1939c101a6> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 16424: Update default values in advanced editor when changing frameworks. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cf124ae6bfb333d36> | |
| 19:52 | News from kohagit: Bug 21362: Advanced editor: Fix tab navigation in fixed fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13bb857e98cd924e5> | |
| 19:52 | caroline | well, now I know kidclamp is still working! :D |
| 19:53 | cait1 | looks like it :) |
| 19:53 | kidclamp | wrapping up anyways :-) I have a bad habit of push and run |
| 19:54 | caroline | kidclamp what do you think of the sentence "If set to 'do', the holds slip print pop-up will appear automatically upon checking in a reserved item" |
| 19:54 | does it make sense? | |
| 19:54 | kidclamp | As much as we can while talking about this :-) |
| 19:54 | cait1 | are we sure nick is a native speaker btw? the moustache.... |
| 19:55 | caroline | I'm not sure about "holds slip print pop-up" vs "holds print slip pop-up" |
| 19:55 | kidclamp | I like the former |
| 19:55 | caroline | I trust your gut :) |
| 19:57 | kidclamp | he's gotten me far! |
| 19:57 | * kidclamp | pats his belly |
| 19:59 | cait1 | kidclamp: i will add the roles page now |
| 20:00 | kidclamp | cait++ |
| 20:00 | I will run away now :-) Have THE good weekend all | |
| 20:00 | caroline | bye! |
| 20:04 | cait1 | needs some clean-up still https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.05 |
| 20:06 | have a nice weekend :) | |
| 20:06 | caroline: how long unti yours starts? | |
| 20:06 | caroline | bye! |
| 20:06 | more or less 2 hours | |
| 20:06 | * cait1 | is in weekend already... 10 pm here |
| 20:06 | cait1 | wow |
| 20:07 | caroline | I'm supposed to work until 6pm, but I might leave a bit early since I'm going to a show tonight |
| 20:07 | cait1 | oh, what are you seeing? |
| 20:08 | i have to knit back on my current project... procrastinating | |
| 20:08 | caroline | My sister in law writes monologues with a group of actors so the whole family is going to the show to support her |
| 20:08 | cait1 | ah cool :) |
| 20:08 | break a leg? | |
| 20:09 | caroline | I'll send her positive vibes on your behalf :) |
| 20:09 | cait1 | that's what i was thinking :) |
| 20:20 | Guest1662 | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #562: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/562/ |
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| 22:01 | caroline | good weekend #koha! |
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