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00:01 | CrispyBran | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21410 |
00:01 | huginn | Bug 21410: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Granular Settings Model |
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05:23 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
05:27 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
05:36 | josef_moravec | hi ashimema |
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06:22 | magnuse | \o/ |
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06:29 | reiveune | hello |
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06:59 | alex_a | bonjour |
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07:57 | fridolin | hi there |
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09:00 | andreashm | hi #koha |
09:15 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm |
09:16 | andreashm | hej magnuse |
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09:49 | kohaputti | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=18856#c29 cait did you open new bug report for maybe having such a syspref to enable cancel holds even if they are in waiting state? |
09:49 | huginn | Bug 18856: normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Cancel Waiting Hold in OPAC does not give useful message |
09:49 | kohaputti | hm, cait is not here |
09:51 | kidclamp | i think they have a work outing today kohaputti |
09:51 | kohaputti | kidclamp, what day is that |
09:52 | just curious :P | |
09:52 | kidclamp | wednesday? heh |
09:53 | ashimema | hello |
09:53 | kohaputti | I mean work outing |
09:54 | is that german way of saying work excursion day? | |
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10:08 | kidclamp | Yes, a work trip? a fun day? |
10:08 | i heard it from claire so could be the british way of saying it | |
10:11 | ashimema | yup |
10:11 | * ashimema | confirms |
10:11 | ashimema | though we don't do them |
10:11 | we being companies I've worked for to date.. I know some do | |
10:12 | kohaputti | ok |
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10:19 | * andreashm | waves |
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11:06 | marcelr | hi #koha |
11:14 | andreashm | hi marcelr |
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11:32 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
11:32 | ashimema | anyone know how to fix `ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)` when using `koha-create` |
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11:37 | marcelr | remember seeing that one |
11:37 | but not much more ;) | |
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11:44 | oleonard | 220 in needs signoff is... not great. |
11:48 | magnuse | gah! |
11:48 | ashimema | :'( |
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11:52 | kohaputti | oleonard, now only 119 :) |
11:52 | I meant 219 | |
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12:11 | kidclamp | bug 21411 :-) |
12:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21411 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Advanced cataloging editor - rancor - Allow configuration of Keyboard shortcuts |
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12:33 | JamesRobinson | Hi guys, I'm a Koha newbie, looking to get a simple installation up and running so that I can start learning the SIP2 protocol for a library kiosk I am developing in the UK |
12:34 | I started with koha-docker, but it has a 500 error when attempting to go to Koha Administration/Libraries and Groups which seemed to be the first step towards configuring Koha for SIP. The error at the backend was DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha_name.branchcategories' doesn't exist [for Statement "SELECT `me`.`categorycode`, `me`.`categoryname`, `me`.`codedescription`, `me`.`categorytype`, `me`.`show_in_pulldo | |
12:35 | So now I've created a Debian VM on AWS and gone through the steps to install Koha from scratch | |
12:36 | These instructions: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
12:36 | Which was fine until I got to the bit about domains | |
12:36 | I don't want to use a domain name... I just want to connect to it externally by its IP address if at all possible | |
12:36 | Is this possible? | |
12:39 | oleonard | Yes it's possible JamesRobinson, but if I understand your question correctly it's more of a server-configuration issue than a Koha issue |
12:40 | That is... How do I make my server serve the outside world? | |
12:41 | JamesRobinson | well I deleted the default apache site (000-default) and meant that koha was being served up on port 80, but accessing the IP address of my server now redirects me to /cgi-bin/koha/maintenance.pl which hangs indefinitely |
12:42 | oleonard | Usually Koha is installed with the staff client at port 8080. Have you tried that? |
12:43 | JamesRobinson | I think my question is what do I need to put in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf if I am not putting a domain name in front of my koha server |
12:43 | oleonard | Your next step is to access the staff client so you can run the web installer. |
12:43 | That's why you see the maintenance page on the OPAC. | |
12:43 | JamesRobinson | port 8080 or 8081 don't serve up anything |
12:43 | ah ok | |
12:44 | i am currently accessing my debian server with ssh, I've opened up ports 80, 8080, 8081 and 6001 (for SIP i believe) | |
12:45 | oleonard | JamesRobinson: I must be misremembering the default site configuration for a Debian package installation |
12:46 | JamesRobinson | yes, I wondered if I need to change that before sudo koha-create --create-db libraryname |
12:47 | first few lines are... | |
12:47 | DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org" INTRAPORT="80" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" | |
12:47 | of /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf | |
12:48 | my current guess would be to put some new unique numbers in those ...PORT vars and create a new library? | |
12:49 | oleonard | You shouldn't have to create a whole new library just to change the Apache config |
12:49 | JamesRobinson | ok, I can go and edit the site in sites-available if that's what you mean |
12:50 | oleonard | Yes |
12:51 | JamesRobinson | so it has created two virtual hosts on port 80... I guess one of them could do with being port 8080. I presume from what you said earlier that the "Intranet" (staff client?) is conventionally put on port 8080? |
12:52 | oleonard | Yes |
12:52 | JamesRobinson | righteo, i'll give that a go |
12:55 | hmm nothing on port 8080 still | |
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13:00 | oleonard | JamesRobinson: Did you restart Apache? |
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13:02 | caroline | good morning #koha! |
13:02 | I'll try not to take the mass exodus personally :) | |
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13:03 | oleonard | Hi caroline |
13:03 | caroline | Hi oleonard! |
13:04 | JamesRobinson | oleonard: yes, firstly tried systemctl reload apache2 and then sudo service apache2 restart for good measure |
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13:06 | * oleonard | bbiab |
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13:12 | AndrewIsh | !seen magnuse |
13:12 | AnnaBoten | magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 23 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <magnuse> gah! |
13:12 | magnuse | \o/ |
13:12 | AndrewIsh | As if by magic magnuse appeared! |
13:13 | magnuse | lo and behold! |
13:13 | AndrewIsh | Thanks for your comment on bug 20996, veeeery useful! Can I just check, are you using the FreeForm backend? If so, what branch? |
13:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20996 normal, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Fix API response time on ILL request endpoint |
13:14 | magnuse | no, i'm using "my own" Libris backend |
13:14 | for swedish ill | |
13:15 | AndrewIsh | Aha, interesting! I think the issue you're seeing is independent of the backend used to create the request, but I just wanted to check what was being used to create yours :) |
13:16 | magnuse: What you've found is super useful though, that gives me something to go on, thanks very much for that :) | |
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13:16 | magnuse | np! |
13:17 | hi again oleonard | |
13:18 | oleonard | Oh look JamesRobinson, some smart people woke up. Maybe they can help. |
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13:31 | oleonard | tcohen around? |
13:46 | * oleonard | files a kohadevbox issue and crosses his fingers |
14:06 | JamesRobinson | hi everybody! I'm new... oleonard has been helping me get a scratch install working on an AWS debian VM. I'm just hoping to test out SIP2 so I haven't got a custom domain, but I can't seem to get anything on vm-ip-address:8080. I get the koha maintenance page on port 80, but nothing from the server on 8080. The port is open and all of that. Just nothing served up from apache2. Can I get away with no domain name? |
14:08 | oleonard | And my devbox is borked so I can't even look at my configuration for reference. |
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14:11 | tcohen | hola oleonard |
14:11 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
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14:20 | oleonard | tcohen, did you see the kohadevbox issue I filed? |
14:20 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]devbox/issues/273 | |
14:21 | tcohen | I was just reading it |
14:23 | oleonard | I hope it is informative. |
14:26 | * ashimema | faints in shock... Someone signed off shib Auth on staff |
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14:27 | marcelr | jajm++ |
14:28 | severine_q | hello #koha ! |
14:28 | marcelr | hi severine_q |
14:28 | caroline | hi severine_q :) |
14:29 | severine_q | hello marcelr & caroline :) |
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14:45 | JamesRobinson | I've tried setting my koha-sites.conf with the following values: |
14:45 | DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org" INTRAPORT="8080" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" | |
14:45 | and then creating a new library | |
14:45 | but still nothing on port 8080 :( | |
14:48 | tcohen | hola severine_q! |
14:48 | jajm++ | |
14:49 | oleonard: I cannot reproduce :-/ | |
14:57 | reiveune | bye |
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15:00 | severine_q | bonjour tcohe n! |
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15:07 | Freddy_Enrique | yo everyone :) |
15:07 | been a while | |
15:07 | caroline | Hi Freddy_Enrique! |
15:07 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi Caroline! |
15:09 | uhm... I've just seen something that got my attetion | |
15:09 | Koha 18.05.03 released was released on August 25 2018 | |
15:09 | Koha 17.11.09 released AFTER that??? | |
15:10 | oleonard | Two stable versions are maintained |
15:10 | Freddy_Enrique | forgive but, shouldn't it fisrt 17.11.09 and then 18.05.03? or how does it work? |
15:11 | caroline | the versions are parallel |
15:11 | oleonard | The release of 17.11.09 is an update from the previous release of 17.11.x |
15:12 | Freddy_Enrique | ah... O.o...god, it must be hard for devs to keep 2 versions |
15:12 | oleonard | Two stable versions and master :) |
15:13 | Two release maintainers and one release manager | |
15:15 | caroline | Any acquisition geeks around? |
15:15 | oleonard | Nobody wants to admit to that, caroline |
15:16 | caroline | I figured... |
15:16 | It's like saying you're rooting for the visiting team | |
15:16 | oleonard | But anyway, what's your question caroline? :) |
15:17 | caroline | A client asked me how to deal with credits in acquisitions |
15:17 | Freddy_Enrique | thanks for the clarification guys :) |
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15:19 | Freddy_Enrique | one last thing.... when should I consider it's time to update? I have verion 17.05.05 and it's working fine |
15:20 | caroline | After I receive my order, the amount is taken out of the budget, but if I send the item back and the vendor issues a credit, the amount should go back into my budget (and what to do with the record?) |
15:20 | * oleonard | hasn't a clue |
15:20 | caroline | I've never used Koha in a "real" setting, everything is just theory in my head, so it's hard to see how to to that |
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15:22 | ashimema | that's not well catered for yet caroline |
15:22 | but.. | |
15:22 | it is to a certain extent what 'invoice adjustments' have been added for | |
15:22 | one can add a credit there | |
15:22 | as for upgradeing Freddy_Enrique | |
15:23 | you should attempt to stay up to date with each months point release for the branch you are running.. that way you get important security and bugfixes | |
15:24 | personally.. I tend to suggest waiting till about the .04 or .05 release of a new feature release before jumping between feature versions | |
15:26 | Freddy_Enrique | I've got a real problem... I lack of knowledge about these versions and how are managed. Can I find this info in the documentation? |
15:26 | ashimema++ | |
15:26 | ashimema | so.. something along the lines... 17.11.05 -> 17.11.06 -> 17.11.07 -> 17.11.08 -> all the way to 17.11.10, then if you have something you want in 18.05 got to 18.05.04, then track.. so 18.05.05 -> 18.05.06 etc, etc |
15:27 | caroline | Freddy_Enrique: it's not in the manual |
15:28 | ashimema | we do two 'feature' releases a year.. the YY.MM.00 ones so.. 17.05.00 and 17.11.00 were last years feature releases.. these are the ones where new features are introduced.. we then also do a release per month for the maintainence branches.. so 17.05.01, 17.05.02 etc |
15:29 | in general, a maintanence branch lasts roughly 18 months.. but it really depends on whether we have enough volunteers to keep a release maintained for that long | |
15:29 | caroline.. wonder if we should add some detail around the release cycle to the manuel? | |
15:30 | caroline | I'm trying to figure out where it would go... Introduction? About? FAQ? |
15:30 | ashimema | it's a fairly standard model for releaseing |
15:30 | Freddy_Enrique | I learnt that before upgrading I should take a snapshot of my virtual machine. I have 17.05... So.. I'll get 17.11.10. I hope my sudo update/upgrade command doesn't get me to 18.05 instead XD |
15:31 | ashimema | how are your apt sources configured |
15:32 | take a quick look in /etc/apt/source.d/koha.list | |
15:32 | or seomthing like that | |
15:32 | JamesRobinson | so for development, do you tend to have koha running in a VirtualBox? I have tried using koha-docker, I have today tried running it on an AWS Debian box, and I keep running into issues :( |
15:32 | ashimema | sources.list.d/koha.list |
15:34 | personally.. I'm old fashioned.. I run it on a good ol' dev install | |
15:34 | but i also work on a remote server as my dev environment.. most people here seem to develop on their local machines and hense vboxes and dockers make lots of sense | |
15:34 | JamesRobinson | ah... so you run a debian machine? |
15:35 | Freddy_Enrique | I'm using virtual box for production in my personal computer. The IT department is going through a lot of problems these days |
15:35 | Ubuntu :3 | |
15:35 | JamesRobinson | I spend a lot of time in AWS, so I thought spinning up a Debian box would be the way to go |
15:35 | ashimema | when a dev joins ptfs-europe we run up a new server for them running debian ;) |
15:35 | personally I run arch linux as my day to day computer | |
15:36 | a deb box on aws is a great way to go | |
15:36 | JamesRobinson | I've followed the instructions on here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
15:36 | but I don't have a custom domain so skipped that bit | |
15:36 | set the vars in koha-sites to DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org" INTRAPORT="8080" INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" OPACPORT="80" OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" | |
15:36 | created my library | |
15:36 | ashimema | i run a pretty similar setup to whats described here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]development_setup |
15:36 | JamesRobinson | but I get nothing on port 8080 :( |
15:37 | oh | |
15:37 | ashimema | hmm |
15:37 | JamesRobinson | another guide! ok, I'll see if there's anything in there that I can try |
15:37 | ashimema | sure 8080's not blocked by a firewall? |
15:37 | JamesRobinson | thanks |
15:37 | nope, it hits the server but nothing's served up | |
15:37 | port 80 is fine | |
15:38 | although that causes the machine to lockup for a while, redirects me to maintenance.pl | |
15:39 | Freddy_Enrique | in apache conf file I use 8080 for intranet and 8081 for OPAC |
15:39 | ashimema | Freddy_Enrique: take a look at https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian. You can easily set what version of koha you want to track by using the codename.. either set `17.11` or `18.05` to 'pin' to a specific version.. or set `oldstable` for example to pin to the safest latest release or `stable` for a newer but possibly slightly less stable release |
15:40 | in production.. I'd go for `oldstable` personally | |
15:40 | Freddy_Enrique | the ip procedure |
15:40 | GOt it :) | |
15:40 | * ashimema | has to go cook tea for the kids now |
15:40 | ashimema | but I'll try to listen in for any questions |
15:49 | JamesRobinson | AHA! I had not told Apache to listen on port 8080. Obvious. It's been a long time, but I still should have remembered that. |
15:50 | in /etc/apache2/ports.conf | |
15:51 | Freddy_Enrique | :) |
15:51 | One thing I have never tried is the domain installation procedure. Looks complicated | |
15:52 | is it posible to do that locally? | |
15:52 | Or I must get a domain form companies like hostgator or go daddy | |
16:01 | ashimema | Just give your instance a domain name then set you local machine hosts file to map the name to the servers ip |
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16:08 | tuxayo | hi! o/ |
16:09 | Freddy_Enrique | Thanks ashimema |
16:09 | yo tuxayo | |
16:09 | wanahui, you there? | |
16:09 | ... | |
16:11 | tuxayo | ashimema: do you have some time to validate specs for a simpler reboot of bug 12310? |
16:11 | https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pa[…]eGL5g9sCd70ki2j1/ | |
16:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12310 major, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Failed QA , Decimal separators issues in patrons payments/fines |
16:11 | tuxayo | Paul discussed about it with kidclamp at the KohaCon and they would push for simpler requirements than the ones that I got at the 2018 march hackfest |
16:11 | o/ Freddy_Enrique | |
16:33 | * cait1 | waves |
16:34 | oleonard | Hi cait1 |
16:36 | Bug 21377 | |
16:36 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21377 critical, P2, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Variable declarations erroneously filtered |
16:37 | cait1 | for me? |
16:38 | * ashimema | takes a quick look between mouthfuls |
16:39 | oleonard | cait1: I thought I'd put it out there. |
16:50 | cait1 | bbiab |
17:47 | tcohen | hi |
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17:56 | caroline | I was going through the links at the end of the manual and noticed these two : https://groups.diigo.com/group/everything-koha and https://www.zotero.org/groups/6684/koha? are they still used? The latest entries are from 2011 and 2017 respectively |
17:57 | oleonard | Never even heard of diigo.com as far as I know |
17:59 | caroline: I would remove them from the manual | |
17:59 | caroline | Is this something we'd like to keep up? Like a press review of Koha? (Maybe I should just ask at the next meeting) |
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18:55 | oleonard | Hi alexbuckley_ |
19:22 | Anyone around who worked on Bug 19532? | |
19:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
19:22 | kidclamp | my hands are dirty |
19:23 | oleonard | Cheetos? |
19:23 | kidclamp | and recalls |
19:23 | oleonard | I'm getting an error but I wonder if there's a simple fix I can make in order to keep testing. |
19:23 | Missing right curly or square bracket at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 4147, at end of line | |
19:24 | kidclamp | try adding a right curly or square bracket? |
19:24 | :-D | |
19:24 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Alberto Martinez <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a8f59150dbeffde2> |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 5458: DBRev 18.06.00.032 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebf3f87a84d89cfd8> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21397: Mark "Routing list" tab as active when selected <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]08a559c4736e20426> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 20023: (QA follow-up) Tiny simplification <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c42882ba192ee560> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21380: (QA follow-up) Use uri filter in link parameters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a5b4e847fc9f17a7> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21380: Circulation history UI improvements - make barcode clickable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]91f25ac09df862b0a> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 20023: Password recovery using email should be case insensitive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]84c9788a64fe6dd04> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21350: Added icon to Pending on-site checkouts and moved <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a9c67df8e2c8e2ef> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21353: (follow-up) same check for select/clear all links <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aace120dae8316048> | |
19:24 | News from kohagit: Bug 21333: (follow-up) Make link a button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eab6cc317d37050ec> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21353: Display checkboxes to merge patron even if cannot manage lists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1db9e35dd217f8790> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21341: Style button on acquisitions existing record search with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d7e7e240e01cc039> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21333: Add ability to add to basket from a new file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29bb197aa73df31a1> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 5458: increase ccode column to varchar 80 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da4fa2c9f7f6b2e6f> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21196: Use replacement cost from the item type if not set at item level <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]822b7affc9cc93c68> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21196: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95e846b196883f42e> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20915: Use date --iso-8601 instead of date +%Y-%m-%d <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6cdbecc41a3e80586> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20669: Add upgrade method to plugins <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa241ed73ea2a5a1c> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20534: Floating toolbar when editing vendors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cebb353ba517a20b9> | |
19:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 19620: Allow skipping of patrons with valid emails for Talking Tech <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]acd9981fef499a162> | |
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19:43 | oleonard | bye #koha |
19:44 | * kidclamp | ducks out quick, before jenkins gets angry |
19:44 | kidclamp | bye |
19:45 | ashimema | Run away |
19:45 | Or risk the wrath of jenkins | |
19:46 | * ashimema | quietly disappears into the background again |
19:58 | Freddy_Enrique | Mt butler's wrath.. muajaja |
20:05 | rangi | morning |
20:05 | caroline | good morning rangi! |
20:05 | rangi | we have a new doc writer caroline ! |
20:05 | caroline | :O |
20:05 | Who who? | |
20:06 | rangi | Lucy Vaux-Harvey |
20:06 | * caroline | is googling |
20:06 | rangi | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]a-manual/activity |
20:07 | ahh cool | |
20:07 | from the NHS in the UK | |
20:07 | caroline | no picture... |
20:07 | I though maybe she was one of the converts from the con | |
20:08 | rangi | ahh nope I don't think they were there |
20:08 | but maybe ptfs-europe went back and showed her :) | |
20:08 | caroline | maybe! :) |
20:09 | high five! | |
20:09 | rangi | :) |
20:11 | caroline | Google image search is so weird... I search for her name and the more I go the weirder the images (b&w picture of someone dressed as Che Guevarra, interior of a car, poster of a concert by Alain Morisod Sweet People) |
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20:11 | rangi | heh |
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20:19 | caroline | Oh yes! It's definitely from PTFS, I asked them to document ILL and they said they'd pass it on |
20:19 | rangi | the system works! |
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22:59 | mtompset | @seen CrispyBran |
22:59 | huginn | mtompset: CrispyBran was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 57 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <CrispyBran> https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21410 |
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