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| 04:15 | paxed | @wunder joensuu |
| 04:15 | huginn` | paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Overcast :: 57F/14C | Wednesday: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 64F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy this evening followed by increasing clouds with showers developing after midnight. Low 53F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%. |
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| 05:32 | calire | hi #koha |
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| 05:45 | paxed | cait: i'm working on making the acq parcel.pl page load the pending table dynamically on search |
| 05:46 | cait | nice |
| 06:04 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
| 06:04 | calire | hi ashimema |
| 06:04 | ashimema | ooh.. I forgot about the documentation meeting.. |
| 06:04 | oops | |
| 06:05 | paxed | well, that seems to work. just need some polish, and actual user testing. |
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| 06:06 | fridolin | hi there |
| 06:06 | calire | hi fridolin |
| 06:11 | * ashimema | wonders why we don't just use camel_case names for images in the manual.. there's no need for a complicated numerical categorisation scheme.. |
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| 06:18 | ashimema | anyone know if there live streaming planned for kohacon? |
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| 06:31 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:32 | calire | hey magnuse |
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| 06:55 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:13 | paxed | cait: looks like our main acq person wants my improvements asap |
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| 07:17 | Evidox | Hello, I havev an issue with recovering koha database from mysql folder as my client's server hard disk crashed. They had not made any backups since the use of Koha ILS. So my option was to recover database from MySQL database files (copy from old to new installation). But the problem i am having is that on loading the staff client interface, the web installation restarts and after selecting defaults, i get a Software Error like this: DBIx::Class::Storage:: |
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| 07:23 | * andreashm | waves |
| 07:25 | cait | paxed: understandable |
| 07:25 | morning all | |
| 07:26 | andreashm | hi cait |
| 07:27 | and hi #koha | |
| 07:30 | * cait | grumps about bugzilla spammers |
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| 07:30 | cait | lately they target tickets with print/printer and leave spammy comments with bad links |
| 07:36 | andreashm | anyone know if the code for placing a hold where a patrons expirydate is today, has changed recently? (we noticed a change upgrading to 17.11) |
| 07:36 | using the rest endpoint, with 16.05 it was ok to place a hold where the patrons expiry was the same date, now with 17.11 it doesn't work. | |
| 07:37 | any changes to the api (hold endpoint), or place reserves? | |
| 07:40 | * andreashm | digs into Bugzilla |
| 07:42 | cait | andreashm: not aware, sorry. could it be your configuration for expired patrons changed? |
| 07:43 | there is the pref and the category type setting | |
| 07:47 | andreashm | cait: prefs seem ok |
| 07:48 | it's possible to plöace a hold with expirydate = the same date the hold is placed from the staff interface, but not through the api. | |
| 07:48 | wondering if this is a bug, or done on purpose? or if we missed something. =) | |
| 07:48 | place, not plöace | |
| 07:49 | (this is a very minor issue, but still) | |
| 07:51 | cait | maybe file it under rest api - could be adate inclusive/exclusive thing somewhere |
| 07:56 | andreashm | possibly. |
| 07:57 | cait | meeting - bbl |
| 07:57 | paxed | cait: basically, i changed the pending orders table to work like the member search - show nothing, until you search, do the search on server side |
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| 08:36 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #54: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/54/ |
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| 10:24 | Evidox | I have a problem with koha database recovery. |
| 10:24 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #55: UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/55/ |
| 10:26 | Evidox | My client's hard disk crashed and they had never made backups, therefore there is no database dump available. My option was to copy from MySQL files of the crashed disk and paste in the new one. |
| 10:26 | I was able to recover it but while running Web installer. It returned an error like this: | |
| 10:28 | DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_library.search_field' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 110. | |
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| 10:33 | eythian | Evidox: if you have a database dump, you shouldn't need to run the web installer. |
| 10:33 | (unless things have changed since I last looked at it.) | |
| 10:39 | Evidox | i couldnt do the dump as the hard disk had crashed and therefore not bootable |
| 10:39 | I also tried using a live CD but it didn't work | |
| 10:43 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #53: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/53/ |
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| 11:29 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:30 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:30 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:33 | eythian | wahanui: good bot |
| 11:33 | wahanui | :) |
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| 12:17 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:19 | kidclamp | hi marcelr |
| 12:19 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:25 | oleonard | Hi marcelr and kidclamp |
| 12:25 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
| 12:25 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:28 | kidclamp | hi oleonard |
| 12:28 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:28 | oleonard | I had a dream last night that I got to Portland and rangi reminded me that I'd signed up to do a presentation |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | In the Hackfest description it says "There will be plenty of breaks for coffee, snacks and mingling" and I read it at first as "coffee, snacks and snuggling." I may be getting a little TOO excited for KohaCon. |
| 12:44 | magnuse | tee hee |
| 12:45 | fridolin | kidclamp: hi, I'm preparing my trip so I will not be at meeting today. |
| 12:45 | nothing special concerning RMaint :D | |
| 12:48 | * oleonard | imagines fridolin polishing his stainless steel shock-proof hat box |
| 12:48 | fridolin | XD i bring my brown hat indeed |
| 12:49 | I have trained my english with Netflix, I'm ready guys ;) | |
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| 12:50 | oleonard | Oh good you can catch me up on Star Trek Discovery |
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| 12:58 | ashimema | lol |
| 13:01 | kidclamp | meeting time! |
| 13:01 | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 5 September 2018 | |
| 13:01 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Sep 5 13:01:40 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 13:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
| 13:01 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_5_september_2018' |
| 13:01 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 13:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
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| 13:02 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 13:02 | cc_ | #info Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe |
| 13:03 | calire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ |
| 13:03 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 13:04 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 13:04 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 13:05 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_5_September_2018 Agenda |
| 13:05 | #topic Announcements | |
| 13:05 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
| 13:06 | kidclamp | KohaCon! It is soon! Huzzah! |
| 13:06 | anyone else :-) | |
| 13:06 | calire | \o/ |
| 13:07 | oleonard | \o\ \o/ /o/ |
| 13:08 | ashimema | :( |
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| 13:09 | * ashimema | wonders if his irc connection has gone bad again |
| 13:09 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy |
| 13:09 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Kohacon18/Social kohacon social info |
| 13:09 | no ashimema , just distracted | |
| 13:09 | :-) | |
| 13:09 | ashimema | phew |
| 13:10 | kidclamp | #topic Update on releases |
| 13:10 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
| 13:10 | kidclamp | Frido said all things are happy for him |
| 13:10 | ashimema? | |
| 13:10 | wahanui | somebody said ashimema was RMaint for 18.05 ? |
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| 13:11 | mtompset | #info Mark Tompsett |
| 13:11 | ashimema | all good here.. just catching up after a weeks leave. |
| 13:11 | * ashimema | thanks kidclamp for covering the final release bits in his absence last week |
| 13:12 | kidclamp | ashimema++ |
| 13:12 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 13:12 | * oleonard | thanks ashimema for not dying in a terrible IRC-related road accident |
| 13:12 | ashimema | that's it from me |
| 13:13 | kidclamp | I am getting the queue as clean as possible before Kohacon |
| 13:13 | ashimema | lol |
| 13:13 | kidclamp | there are several majors /critical/blockers that could use attention |
| 13:13 | cait | my theory is that it will fill quickly at the hackfet, recommend the qa team to clean up too :) |
| 13:13 | kidclamp | pushing ES work along, would still like to see Mana and Stock Rotation move forward |
| 13:13 | * ashimema | is also happy he didn't fall off his bike (into a canal or otherwise) whilst irc'ing on his bike. |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | yes, everyone should get things setup for fast movement at kohacon |
| 13:14 | ashimema | SR is moving forward nicely now.. thanks tcohen |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | the SCSS and XSS patches mean many rebases and we are slowly cleaning up issues caused by those |
| 13:14 | cait | yes, rebase, update test plans, etc. |
| 13:14 | ashimema | (and bag) |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | thanks to all, I am excited for this release :-) |
| 13:14 | oleonard | Oh my god the rebases. |
| 13:15 | * calire | prepares for sign-offs |
| 13:15 | kidclamp | #info Stable branches are good, master is coming along, please see majors and prepare patches before kohacon |
| 13:15 | ashimema | poor oleonard.. but you'd prefer it this way than the other ;) |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Idea: new Koha Academy, 100% rebasing. |
| 13:15 | kidclamp | poor ashimema has to deal with all the rebases for backports :-) |
| 13:16 | ashimema | I knew what I was getting into when I started QAin'g them ;) |
| 13:16 | lead by example aye :S | |
| 13:17 | kidclamp | moving on :-) |
| 13:17 | #topic Updates for the About page | |
| 13:17 | Topic for #koha is now Updates for the About page (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
| 13:17 | cait | that was me |
| 13:18 | there was a request from bulac to be added to the about page that led to some dicussion | |
| 13:18 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #56: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/56/ |
| 13:18 | cait | at themoment we have different sections on the page |
| 13:18 | we add new devs, but not libraries | |
| 13:18 | we've got a special thanks at the very top | |
| 13:19 | then the release teams, the devs, then contributing companies and institutions and additional thanks | |
| 13:19 | so the question was mostly about how we want to handle instiutions and where they shoudl go | |
| 13:19 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:19 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #56: FIXED in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/56/ | |
| 13:19 | ashimema | that page is a bit of a mess.. |
| 13:19 | been ages since I've properly looked at it. | |
| 13:20 | cait | one ideas was to add all the libraries from the release notes that used the sponsored-by line |
| 13:20 | maybe a little messy, but i think important | |
| 13:20 | recognition is about the only thing the community can offer | |
| 13:20 | ashimema | totally agree we should add them |
| 13:21 | tuxayo | New tab? |
| 13:21 | ashimema | sponsored by used to go into the timeline.. |
| 13:21 | not seeing any mentions since 2009 though | |
| 13:22 | oleonard | I think using "sponsored by" in the future to add to "Contributing companies and institutions" is a good idea |
| 13:22 | ashimema | would be nice to get that up to date with appropriate features and their sponsorship in my opinion. |
| 13:22 | cait | +1 |
| 13:22 | oleonard | I wonder though what to do with "special thanks" and "additional thanks" |
| 13:23 | cait | ashimema: i don't think it did - only for big stuff at the beginning, but not continuiously (timeline) |
| 13:23 | ashimema | not sure I like the 'Special thanks' section to be honest... are those contributor still more special than any other contributors? |
| 13:23 | cait | hlt? sure |
| 13:23 | ashimema | it would be nice to have it in there though cait :) |
| 13:23 | thd | What counts as "special" and why do we need a distinction between "special" and "additional"? |
| 13:23 | cait | i thnk without the early adopters we wouldn't be here now |
| 13:24 | andrew_ | Hey all. Can anyone explain why calls to KohaTable that previously worked, now need a .api() call preceding them? For example, something like: var table = KohaTable('#selector', {...}; table.search('')..... would have worked fine, but now it needs .api() between table & search, i.e. table.api().search('').... I've tried to track back the relevant change, but failed :( |
| 13:24 | oleonard | Maybe we should have only HLT under special and move other orgs under "Contributing companies" |
| 13:24 | andrew_: IRC meeting now | |
| 13:25 | andrew_ | Doh, of course, sorry |
| 13:25 | thd | I prefer something like "initial work sponsored by". |
| 13:25 | ashimema | I dunno.. I'd say 'Special' has a place for regularly sponsors/contributors over a certain level or something? |
| 13:25 | cait | hard to measure that something |
| 13:26 | it's a bit of a possible mine field | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Yeah, and brings ongoing maintenance of a different kind |
| 13:26 | cait | maybe we just move up the instiuttions and merge? |
| 13:26 | hm oh | |
| 13:26 | i think i see a schema | |
| 13:26 | ashimema | just seems odd the ones that are in there.. the OPAC star ratings sponsorship one for example.. that seems a relatively small contribution to warrant an up the top mention.. maybe I'm just being a bit harsh |
| 13:26 | cait | move the libraries up |
| 13:26 | and leave the companies below | |
| 13:26 | ashimema | indeed |
| 13:26 | cait | most of the contributing are companies |
| 13:26 | ashimema | Yeah.. that could work for me |
| 13:27 | cait | ok so we have |
| 13:27 | add sponsored-by libraries to the top from release notes | |
| 13:27 | add libraries from contributing to top | |
| 13:27 | mtompset | Perhaps monetary/hardware vs. software changes? |
| 13:27 | cait | leave companies at the bottom |
| 13:28 | too hard | |
| 13:28 | mtompset | Yes, probably is too hard. |
| 13:28 | cait | i think if someone wants to have what they sponsored it's ok, but often it would be too hard to track |
| 13:28 | kidclamp | maybe link to a wiki page "Special thanks" and anyone who wants can go crazy there |
| 13:28 | ashimema | what about sponsored features in the timeline.. should that be covered in such a decision? |
| 13:29 | kidclamp | I like adding sponsored by tot he timeline, someone will need to script or be patient to make it retroactive |
| 13:29 | mtompset | -- Hmmm.... I'm not really for that. |
| 13:29 | ashimema | why so mtompset? |
| 13:29 | mtompset | the wiki idea, that is. |
| 13:29 | ashimema | oh.. did you mean the wiki link? |
| 13:29 | * ashimema | has caught up |
| 13:30 | mtompset | Sorry for not being clear. :) |
| 13:30 | * ashimema | wonders how the 'Translations' tab is kept up to date whilst we're talking this stuff |
| 13:30 | oleonard | I think "sponsored by" in the timeline doesn't make sense now that we're putting "sponsored by" in bugzilla -- we get into judgement about what is a big enough sponsorship to put in the timeline |
| 13:31 | kidclamp | would it not just be the first? |
| 13:31 | mtompset | oleonard, true. Though, counting the number of sponsored-by bugs for a given sponsor doesn't require judgments. |
| 13:31 | kidclamp | devs get in for any patch, any sponsorship can go in |
| 13:31 | cait | not for the wiki idea either |
| 13:31 | i like that the abotu page gets qa | |
| 13:32 | kidclamp | the overhead cost is low for adding |
| 13:32 | ashimema | indeed |
| 13:32 | cait | i think the sponsoring int he timeline is not happening anyway |
| 13:32 | so we can ignore that | |
| 13:32 | mtompset | kidclamp, the problem with the wiki idea is that it is open to more abuse. There are parties which may add themselves for every single bug patch they submit. |
| 13:33 | But we could have another sponsored-by timeline? | |
| 13:33 | cait | i think keep it out of timeline |
| 13:33 | ashimema | I'd prefer to see what feature was sponsored in the timeline myself.. rather than 'first feature'.. anywho.. that's just another piece of fun to add |
| 13:34 | cait | it's nto a good place, because of dates and all |
| 13:34 | kidclamp | Sure, I don't like the idea of having to judge who gets what special thanks |
| 13:34 | thd | Sponsorship could also be added to attribution comments in file headers, although, the audience who would see those is small. |
| 13:34 | kidclamp | so wiki would be more of a fun page |
| 13:34 | would allow for low level thanks | |
| 13:34 | ashimema | wow.. there's been 200 new devs since I joined the effort |
| 13:34 | blimey | |
| 13:35 | kidclamp | "Kidclamp thanks cait for touring german castle" |
| 13:35 | cait | the last entry in timeline is dec 2017... it needs more work |
| 13:35 | ? | |
| 13:35 | oh | |
| 13:35 | lol | |
| 13:35 | you are welcome? | |
| 13:35 | ashimema | huh |
| 13:36 | cait | oftn it might be a bug fix that is sponsored |
| 13:36 | relaly hard to keep updated | |
| 13:36 | ashimema | April 16th 2018 is the last entry I see in the timeline |
| 13:36 | cait | i think just the name still, we are not good with updating stuff |
| 13:36 | ashimema: ... right. looking at 17.11 *hides* | |
| 13:36 | kidclamp | #chair cait |
| 13:36 | huginn` | Current chairs: cait kidclamp |
| 13:36 | mtompset | Does that make you feel old now, ashimema? ;) |
| 13:37 | cait | so do we have a decision? |
| 13:37 | marcelr | :) |
| 13:37 | mtompset | on what exactly again? |
| 13:37 | cait | are we ok with adding BULAC at least? to special thanks for elastic etc |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 13:37 | cait | updates for the about page |
| 13:38 | marcelr | no objection to thank somebody |
| 13:38 | kidclamp | but I don't want to have this conversation every time we want to add someone :-) |
| 13:38 | mtompset | Were they the ones that pushed it? |
| 13:38 | marcelr | its just 20 mins kidclamp |
| 13:38 | mtompset | pushed for it, that is. |
| 13:38 | thd | +1 |
| 13:38 | kidclamp | :-b |
| 13:38 | calire | +1 |
| 13:38 | mtompset | If so, yes. |
| 13:38 | ashimema | +1 |
| 13:39 | cait | they've tested a lot and are users... so no objection from me |
| 13:39 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #54: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/54/ |
| 13:39 | cait | financial side i can't tell |
| 13:39 | kidclamp | they did extensive testing are using in production and sponsored biblibre mtompset |
| 13:39 | mtompset | Then, why are we even discussing this? It should be a +1 obviously. |
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| 13:39 | cait | ok, so special thank for bulac and add sponsored by at least to contributing? |
| 13:39 | ashimema | yup.. throw them in |
| 13:39 | cait | ok |
| 13:39 | so ewe can move on with that bug, all I want :D | |
| 13:40 | * cait | dreams of empty queues sometimes |
| 13:40 | cait | moving on? i got something about kohacon |
| 13:40 | kidclamp | Whose job to add to Contributing? RM? We can figure that later, or just allow those who care to do so |
| 13:40 | cait | could be a good academy task too |
| 13:40 | for kohacon | |
| 13:41 | kidclamp | #info Agreed to add BULAC to special thanks and begin adding entities that sponsor devs to teh 'Contributing' section |
| 13:41 | move on cait ;-) | |
| 13:41 | cait | thx |
| 13:42 | I just noticed that we had another bid added for KohaCon19 | |
| 13:42 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon19_Proposals | |
| 13:42 | it's too late as we already are in voting phase | |
| 13:42 | how should we handle it? undo and move to a new page? but can't assume they want to bid for 2020 too | |
| 13:42 | ashimema | ooh |
| 13:42 | that page looks messed up to me now | |
| 13:42 | marcelr | yeah |
| 13:42 | restore older one? | |
| 13:43 | cait | yeah it looks like they accidentally added to the header row |
| 13:43 | i really have my hands full, would someone be willing to send an email maybe? | |
| 13:43 | mtompset | We were already in voting phase... restore old page, put them up on KohaCon2020 page, and then ask them if they are willing to do it for 2020. |
| 13:43 | cait | i can undo the wiki change i think |
| 13:44 | ashimema | not even sure I can actually work out who they are |
| 13:44 | cait | there is email addresse |
| 13:44 | addresses | |
| 13:44 | ashimema | ah yes.. it's merged into the heading |
| 13:44 | thd | I can create a new wiki page for 2020 and ask them to contribute their. |
| 13:44 | kidclamp | thanks thd |
| 13:44 | ashimema | 'Islamic University Islamabad Pakistan' |
| 13:44 | cait | thx thd |
| 13:44 | ashimema | yeah.. go for the thd |
| 13:45 | cait | thd will you undo the changes to 19 when done? |
| 13:45 | ashimema | thanks |
| 13:45 | cait | then i won't touch it |
| 13:45 | thd | Yes |
| 13:45 | cait | thd++ |
| 13:45 | kidclamp | #action thd will contact International Islamic University about moving their kohacon bid to 2020 as it was submitted after voting phase began |
| 13:46 | cait | all from me now thx! |
| 13:46 | kidclamp | Anyone else have topics before we set next meeting? |
| 13:46 | #topic Next meeting | |
| 13:46 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 5 September 2018) | |
| 13:46 | kidclamp | October 3rd, 20 UTC? |
| 13:46 | cait | hm maybe check if the docs meeting is there |
| 13:47 | sec | |
| 13:47 | kidclamp | i don't see it on calendar (yet anyways) |
| 13:47 | cait | it's 2 October 2018, 21:00 UTC - all good |
| 13:47 | we had discussed several dates yesterday | |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting: 3 October 2018, 20 UTC |
| 13:48 | cait | kidclamp++ |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | #endmeeting |
| 13:48 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 13:48 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Sep 5 13:48:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:48 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-09-05-13.01.html | |
| 13:48 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-09-05-13.01.txt | |
| 13:48 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-13.01.log.html | |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | Thanks all! |
| 13:48 | calire | kidclamp++ |
| 13:49 | oleonard | kidclamp++ |
| 13:49 | ashimema | kidclamp++ |
| 13:49 | mtompset | And now that the meeting is over... |
| 13:49 | Is anyone familiar with bug 20300? | |
| 13:49 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20300 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Import authorities data fail in module Stage MARC record for import |
| 13:50 | oleonard | andrew_: Still around? |
| 13:50 | andrew_ | oleonard: Yep, one moment... |
| 13:51 | oleonard: Apologies for gatecrashing the meeting, I knew it was on, brain fade! | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | No problem. I had to have a stern talk with jenkins too. |
| 13:51 | andrew_: Where are you seeing the problem? | |
| 13:52 | kidclamp | mtompset: that line means the file is excluded from plack - so any errors should be in the intranet-error.log |
| 13:53 | andrew_ | oleonard: I've been seeing it with ILL, I've been addressing some problems for customers. It's specifically being used in bug 20600, when I developed that it all worked fine, but I'm now seeing it breaking and me having to start using table.api().whatever |
| 13:53 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests |
| 13:54 | andrew_ | oleonard: I'm just trying to get my head around when it changed and how# |
| 13:54 | kidclamp | mtompset: this patch can help you see what the error is too: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19417 |
| 13:54 | huginn` | Bug 19417: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Improve display of errors from background job during stage for import |
| 13:56 | oleonard | andrew_: Do you have an example in existing code? |
| 13:57 | andrew_ | oleonard: This patch, which was done by you coincidentally. Every instance of "table." needs replacing with "table.api()." |
| 13:58 | oleonard: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]77697&action=diff | |
| 13:58 | oleonard: Oh, actually... | |
| 13:59 | oleonard: I'm just looking at the versions in use where I'm seeing problems and it's 17.11.08.000, so I'm wondering if I've got it the wrong way round. The requirement for .api() is a legacy thing that I didn't encounter when I developed for Bug 20600 on master | |
| 13:59 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests |
| 14:00 | andrew_ | oleonard: And when it's backported to 17.11, the api() requirement still exists maybe? |
| 14:01 | oleonard: I'm very confused, if you can't already tell | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | I've never seen this problem before. Have you seen a place in existing 17.11.x code which requires this fix? |
| 14:05 | andrew_ | oleonard: This is the only example I could find https://github.com/PTFS-Europe[…]holdsqueue.tt#L27 |
| 14:07 | oleonard: It looks like it was implemented that way, rather than being changed as a fix | |
| 14:08 | oleonard: I'm wondering if it's something to do with the way the KohaTable object is being instantiated that's different to all the other occurrences | |
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| 14:15 | oleonard | andrew_: Unfortunately Bug 20600 needs a rebase |
| 14:15 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests |
| 14:16 | andrew_ | oleonard: Ah, I'm not surprised, it was a while ago. I'll do that now, thanks for highlighting that :) |
| 14:19 | What's the procedure now for rebasing on top of the new staff-global.css? | |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Make changes to staff-global.scss only. RM will commit compiled staff-global.css |
| 14:20 | * ashimema | has been extracting css changes, converting them to scss and adding them into the .scss file |
| 14:20 | ashimema | but.. I'm awaiting feedback on that aproach from oleonard ;) |
| 14:21 | oleonard | Sounds right to me ashimema |
| 14:22 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:22 | it's pretty manual though andrew_ .. as the css is no minified git really won't help you much | |
| 14:23 | andrew_ | So if I'm rebasing, should I just skip the conflicting patch for staff-global.css and copy the changes into staff-global.scss? |
| 14:25 | ashimema | yuo |
| 14:25 | yup | |
| 14:26 | andrew_ | Roger, thanks |
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| 15:08 | oleonard | Speaking of the About page: Bug 21317 |
| 15:09 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Format long lists under Koha Team tab as columns |
| 15:09 | ashimema | nice |
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| 15:43 | kidclamp | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16219 |
| 15:43 | huginn` | Bug 16219: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Runreport.pl should allow sql paramters to be passed on the command line. |
| 15:52 | andrew_ | oleonard: I've now rebased Bug 20600, so it will hopefully apply now! |
| 15:52 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Provide the ability for users to filter ILL requests |
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| 16:17 | oleonard | kidclamp: Did this comment? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=20217#c16 |
| 16:17 | huginn` | Bug 20217: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Make header's catalog search menu into a split button |
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| 16:25 | mtompset | @seen tcohen |
| 16:25 | huginn` | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 days, 0 hours, 59 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <tcohen> tuxayo: I think so |
| 16:25 | mtompset | The whole zebra reset_all stuff is noisy busted in the kohadevbox. :( |
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| 17:14 | Shane-S | is there a way to restore deleted patrons or even see a listing of removed patrons? My librarian likes to remove people immediately...but a couple came back...would like to keep their checkout history if possible vs making a new patron |
| 17:17 | I would guess the best method is to expire them instead of delete the patron? | |
| 17:20 | tuxayo | Shane-S: The deletedborrowers http://schema.koha-community.o[…]tedborrowers.html |
| 17:20 | This table should still have everything. | |
| 17:21 | But you have to check that the checkout history isn't deleted on cascade... | |
| 17:21 | There is a lot of hope that everything is still there | |
| 17:23 | > I would guess the best method is to expire them instead of delete the patron? | |
| 17:23 | Shane-S Expire and use in a cronjob `misc/cronjobs/delete_patrons.pl` with the right params to remove the patrons expired since one year for example. | |
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| 17:30 | Shane-S | tuxayo: ty, I will advise her on that and then maybe I just manually run that script at the end of a school year. We have had a few people leave and come back after a year, but most are within a year that they come back. |
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| 17:35 | kidclamp | yes oleonard and it worked for me now |
| 17:36 | oleonard | Cool. |
| 17:38 | mtompset | Has anyone done a vagrant destroy; vagrant up lately? I believe the koha-conf.xml file is not correctly rewritten busting reindexing (if you haven't switched to elasticsearch?) when you reset_all. |
| 17:38 | cut and paste and tweaked some lines into my koha-conf.xml to fix it. :) | |
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| 17:45 | thd | kidclamp: I moved the late proposal from KohaCon19 Proposals to KohaCon20 Proposals, however, they are not likely to receive my email because outlook.com is liable to classify messages from my mail server as junk because I do not have the expected anti-spam security configuration for my mail server mx records. I would like you to forward my message if you would please. |
| 17:45 | kidclamp | sure, send it my way |
| 17:45 | caroline_ | Hi everybody! |
| 17:45 | oleonard | Hi caroline_ |
| 17:46 | caroline_ | LeeJ emailed me about the pakistani proposal, is this what you're talking about? |
| 17:46 | thd | kidclamp: Their second contact has a nonworking email address listed. |
| 17:53 | kidclamp | yes caroline_ |
| 17:53 | caroline_ | +1 |
| 17:54 | thd | Yes, International Islamic University, Islamabad, Pakistan. I corrected and moved the proposal to KohaCon20 Proposals. |
| 17:54 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]#Proposals_Period | |
| 17:54 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon20_Proposals | |
| 17:55 | caroline_ | perfect. I wouldn't have added it to the poll anyways since it has already been going on for several week and ~300 ppl have already answered |
| 17:56 | thd | Even if the poll had not started but the proposal was still late it would have been too problematic to add. |
| 17:57 | We would have needed a current discussion for how to count prioritised votes for more than two choices in the absence of an outright majority. | |
| 17:57 | caroline_ | right |
| 17:59 | Is it normal that the minutes from this morning's meeting are not on the wiki yet? Does it take a couple of days to get on there? | |
| 17:59 | thd | They had some terrible formatting along with many spelling errors but I transformed it for KohaCon20 to be neat and readable. |
| 18:00 | * thd | disappears to do errands for his neighbour |
| 18:00 | kidclamp | they do usually go right up, probably it means I didn't obey Joubu's direction caroline_ |
| 18:00 | cait | thd++ |
| 18:02 | i think he might have to run the script manually? not sure | |
| 18:02 | caroline_: irc.koha-community.org hast the links ) | |
| 18:02 | caroline_ | kidclamp: hopefully, Joubu is not too tough with disobeying colleagues ;) |
| 18:02 | cait | an dusually reminds me that i talk too much here |
| 18:03 | kidclamp | I am much less afraid of Joubu than I used to be |
| 18:03 | oleonard | But not completely unafraid. |
| 18:04 | kidclamp | I am not a fool, I don't want an angry Joubu |
| 18:04 | * oleonard | nods sagely |
| 18:04 | caroline_ | Joubu = iron fist in a velvet glove? |
| 18:05 | cait | heh |
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| 18:06 | cait | I am not sur eif htat's really possible |
| 18:09 | ashimema | poor joubu |
| 18:13 | cait | i mean making him angry |
| 18:14 | but better not try | |
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| 18:27 | edveal | I have a kohadevbox question, is there anyone that can help me. tcohen, helped me get it set up again but the indexer is not running. I have added things to the catalog but nothing is coming up in search results. |
| 18:27 | kidclamp | sudo koha-indexer --start kohadev |
| 18:28 | cait | are you using zebra or elasticserach? |
| 18:28 | but probably what kidclamp said :) | |
| 18:28 | kidclamp | good point, if ES may just need a full reindex |
| 18:29 | oleonard | kidclamp: When you're driving to Portland can you swing by Ohio and pick me up? |
| 18:30 | kidclamp | I will do that when I drive to Portland |
| 18:30 | though this trip I am flying | |
| 18:31 | * oleonard | turns off the porch light |
| 18:31 | edveal | do I run that from in kohadevbox or koha? |
| 18:46 | mtompset | I wonder, edveal, did you see some warnings about _CAPS_THINGS_ when you attempt a reindex? |
| 18:46 | Because I found my koha-conf.xml busted when I tried to get my stretch kohadevbox up this morning. | |
| 18:48 | edveal | No I am just getting command not found. |
| 18:52 | mtompset | so you did a vagrant up and a vagrant ssh... and then you type that command and get command not found? |
| 18:54 | edveal | Yes and now I am getting this: [FAIL] Error: Indexer already running for kohadev: failed! |
| 18:57 | cait | @wunder portland |
| 18:57 | huginn` | cait: Portland, OR :: Clear :: 50F/10C | Wednesday: Sunny. High 89F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low near 55F. Winds light and variable. |
| 18:57 | caroline_ | ooh 10C that's cold! |
| 18:58 | cait | eeek yah |
| 18:58 | caroline_ | I saw that it would be around 20-25 next week when I checked |
| 18:58 | cait | colder than i thought it would be |
| 18:58 | same, even a bit more in weather report here | |
| 18:58 | mtompset | @wunder brampton |
| 18:58 | huginn` | mtompset: Brampton, Ontario :: Partly Cloudy :: 86F/30C | Heat Index: 93F/34C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High near 90F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy skies. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 66F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph. |
| 18:58 | mtompset | @wunder orangeville |
| 18:58 | huginn` | mtompset: Orangeville, Ontario :: Clear :: 87F/30C | Heat Index: 92F/33C | Wednesday: Partly cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. High 87F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy this evening with more clouds for overnight. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 61F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph. |
| 18:59 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:59 | huginn` | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 69F/21C | Wind Chill: 69F/21C | Wednesday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the upper 50s. Wednesday Night: A few passing clouds. Low 57F. Winds light and variable. |
| 18:59 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 18:59 | caroline_ | heat index 34C mtompset I feel for you |
| 18:59 | mtompset | That's much nicer weather, cait. |
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| 19:00 | mtompset | I stay indoors. No biggie for me... well, maybe this afternoon when I walk around a parking lot for exercise. |
| 19:00 | caroline_ | here indoors 24C, wind chill (aka AC) 16C |
| 19:00 | mtompset | Anyone care to sign off bug 21281? |
| 19:00 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21281 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Label Template - Creation not working |
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| 20:18 | rangi | morning |
| 20:18 | caroline_ | good morning rangi! |
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| 20:26 | * andreashm | waves |
| 20:26 | rangi | hi andreashm |
| 20:26 | caroline_ | hi andreashm! |
| 20:26 | andreashm | hi rangi |
| 20:26 | and caroline_ | |
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| 20:33 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 20:43 | rangi | andreashm: how's the presentation writing going? |
| 20:46 | andreashm | rangi: well, I've started at least. =) |
| 20:46 | and you? | |
| 20:47 | * cait1 | grumps and hides |
| 20:47 | rangi | sorta :) the one im doing by myself is getting there, but the one cait and I are doing together we probably won't get done until we are there |
| 20:47 | andreashm | double-cait? |
| 20:47 | * cait1 | waves |
| 20:47 | rangi | the timezone diffs make working on it hard |
| 20:47 | cait1 | how else i am supposed to get everything done? |
| 20:47 | yeah, you just get to work at 10 pm... lazy | |
| 20:48 | andreashm | cait1: finally it all makes sense. =) |
| 20:48 | rangi | heh |
| 20:48 | cait1 | :) |
| 20:49 | andreashm | so I heard whispers of an international sweets/snacks-table at the con (or was it the hackfest)? |
| 20:49 | rangi | usually the hackfest |
| 20:50 | andreashm | nice |
| 20:50 | rangi | im hoping someone from finland will bring salmiakki again |
| 20:50 | * andreashm | will bring something |
| 20:50 | rangi | cool! |
| 20:54 | * cait1 | hopes she still can pack some clothes |
| 20:54 | rangi | i get 2 bags at 23kg |
| 20:54 | 1 for clothes 1 for candy | |
| 20:55 | (not really, but I could :)) | |
| 20:56 | * andreashm | got booked on a ticket without check-in bagage! |
| 20:57 | andreashm | thank you for that, tendered travel agency |
| 20:58 | but I'll make room for something. maybe some salt liquorice for rangi. =) | |
| 20:58 | rangi | yay! |
| 20:58 | cait1 | no check in .... ugh |
| 20:58 | andreashm | cait1: yeah, not great. |
| 20:58 | rangi | i unfortunately don't know much about Swedish candy |
| 20:59 | hopefully I can rectify that next year ;) | |
| 20:59 | cait1 | we got a cheaper airline... i am not sure we will get fed without paying, but at least 23 kg |
| 20:59 | andreashm | rangi: similar to the finish. but more tasty! =) |
| 20:59 | rangi | :) |
| 20:59 | they have (in america) Swedish Fish | |
| 20:59 | cait1 | andreashm: could you add a bag online maybe? probably got to pay extra i guess |
| 20:59 | rangi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Fish |
| 20:59 | andreashm | cait1: yeah, I can pay extra for one |
| 21:00 | rangi: I had some when I was in the u.s. this summer | |
| 21:00 | rangi | :) |
| 21:00 | andreashm | there's similar here. liquorice ones too. |
| 21:00 | there are | |
| 21:01 | rangi | cool |
| 21:01 | I got a taste for salty licorice from visiting the Netherlands in 1998 | |
| 21:01 | it's quite hard to get in NZ though | |
| 21:01 | cait1 | andreashm: sent you an email earlier (the only thing i did so far for slides...) |
| 21:02 | rangi | ok, i gotta go, see you all in a few days! |
| 21:02 | andreashm | cait1: yes I saw. I'll reply soon! |
| 21:02 | * andreashm | gotta go to. time for bed |
| 21:03 | cait1 | sleep well! |
| 21:05 | andreashm | thanks, you too |
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| 22:21 | caroline_ | @later tell kellym Check https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]shots_with_gitlab let me know if you have questions |
| 22:21 | huginn` | caroline_: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:23 | caroline_ | bye everyone! |
| 22:45 | wizzycray | hi |
| 22:45 | wahanui | hello, wizzycray |
| 23:24 | mtompset | Greetings, wizzycray rangi. :) |
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