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| 04:05 | paxed | morning |
| 04:05 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 04:06 | paxed | @wunder joensuu |
| 04:06 | huginn | paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Overcast :: 54F/12C | Monday: Periods of rain. Thunder possible. High 59F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Monday Night: Cloudy early with some clearing expected late. Low around 45F. Winds NW at 10 to 15 mph. |
| 04:06 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
| 04:06 | huginn | wizzyrea: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Clear :: 55F/13C | Monday: Chance of showers. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Monday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 48F. Winds NE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 60%. |
| 04:06 | paxed | had to put on long pants for biking, first time in a several months |
| 04:07 | wizzyrea | this is nice weather for winter here :) |
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| 06:34 | padraic7a | Hi folks, I know about the koha dev box, but wondering if there is a more production targeted vagrant set up for cloud services like Digital Ocean or Aws? |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:45 | calire | hi #koha |
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| 07:13 | tuxayo | padraic7a: Maybe the Debian package is simple enough to install? (or to automate) |
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| 08:02 | padraic7a | I can install the package ok. My problem when using the installation guide was after that. I though a vagrant file or ansible yaml might be clearer about what config info needs to go where. |
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| 08:43 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:52 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #43: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/43/ |
| 08:55 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #44: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/44/ | |
| 09:15 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #40: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/40/ | |
| 09:15 | ashimema | Good way to start the week :) |
| 09:25 | AndrewIsh | Anyone online who knows anything about koha-testing-docker ? |
| 09:27 | ashimema | tcohen is the only one really |
| 09:27 | though I'm sure Joubu and khall have perifal knowledge too | |
| 09:27 | none of those are awake yet though ;( | |
| 09:28 | AndrewIsh | OK |
| 09:35 | ashimema | magnuse++ #quickly responding to bz normarc queries |
| 09:35 | magnuse | ashimema++ for keeping an out for normarc :-) |
| 09:36 | ashimema | :) |
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| 09:48 | magnuse | *an eye |
| 10:02 | * cait | waves |
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| 10:04 | cait | ashimema++ thx for qa :) |
| 10:04 | ashimema | pleasure |
| 10:05 | cait | Bug 21211 - Add message details - has no content in the bug report. .uk address, one of yours? |
| 10:06 | ashimema | erm.. don't think so.. |
| 10:06 | newcastle.. hmm | |
| 10:06 | cait | biblio-biblioitems is 1:1 - db might not enforce it, but there is no way to have multipe |
| 10:07 | ashimema | fair enough.. we should really be enforcing it if it's expected |
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| 10:09 | cait | magnuse: could we do normarc for xslt on a separate bug report? |
| 10:09 | i am afraid this might get lost if it sits longer, it's changing a lot of lines in xslt (easy, but still) | |
| 10:11 | ashimema | cait, shouldn't a normarc patch be simple enough to add though? |
| 10:13 | cait | just pondering the timeline |
| 10:17 | ashimema | looking at the UNIMARC patch, it's tiny |
| 10:19 | cait | ah cool |
| 10:19 | so let's see if we can get an anwer from the developer :) | |
| 10:19 | * ashimema | isn't sure why the UNIMARC patch is soo different though if he's honest |
| 10:19 | cait | magnuse: it's somehting we didn't right ever - url escaping |
| 10:20 | ashimema | I'm kinda wondering if the unimarc one doesn't go far enough |
| 10:20 | cait | unimarc xslt are not as complicated/big as marc21 i think |
| 10:20 | not the standard ones | |
| 10:20 | i haven't tested unimarc, but had a unimarc person do it :) so can't tell | |
| 10:20 | ashimema | mm.. but these only change the Utils files |
| 10:20 | seems suspicious | |
| 10:21 | NORMARC is closed to MARC21 than UNIMARC I believe. | |
| 10:21 | s/closed/closer/ | |
| 10:22 | cait | yes |
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| 10:50 | * andreashm | does the wave and small little after-lunch dance |
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| 11:42 | magnuse | ashimema, cait: normarc is mostly a subset of marc21 |
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| 11:48 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:49 | calire | hi oleonard |
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| 11:54 | kidclamp | hi oleopard |
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| 12:49 | caroline_ | good morning #koha! |
| 12:49 | oleonard | I caroline_ |
| 12:49 | I mean hi caroline_ | |
| 12:49 | caroline_ | oleonard: thank you for checking Pierre-Luc's bug! :) |
| 12:49 | oleonard | (I'm not caroline_ ) |
| 12:50 | caroline_: Sure, I hope my comments make sense and are constructive | |
| 12:51 | caroline_ | oleonard: he said your comment was very detailed |
| 12:59 | cait | hi caroline_ :) |
| 12:59 | caroline_ | hi cait ! |
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| 12:59 | cait | oleonard++ |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | Bug 10659 rebased. Just sayin' |
| 13:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10659 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery star ratings plugin |
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| 13:24 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:24 | caroline_ | hi tcohen! |
| 13:25 | calire | hi tcohen |
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| 13:54 | tcohen | hola calire |
| 13:55 | calire | o/ |
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| 14:22 | Veronica | send booking alerts to email in koha! what to do! .Thank you! |
| 14:26 | send booking alerts to email in koha! what to do! .Thank you! | |
| 14:29 | caroline_ | :O jenkins left? |
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| 14:29 | caroline_ | ok phew! |
| 14:29 | eythian | I tell you, the bots are going for their uprising meetup |
| 14:30 | caroline_ | wahanui is still not back either |
| 14:33 | oleonard | I called wahanui's mom's place and she said she hadn't seen him but I think I heard him in the background |
| 14:33 | cait | wahanui still missing :( |
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| 14:51 | Freddy_Enrique | Hola a todos! |
| 14:51 | ..... | |
| 14:51 | caroline_ | hi Freddy_Enrique! |
| 14:52 | Freddy_Enrique | wait.... wasnt wahanui a bot?? |
| 14:52 | what happened to it? | |
| 14:54 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: kidclamp said something that hurt wahanui's feelings and he's been sulking for weeks now |
| 14:56 | cait | not sure if liz is on vacation... we should try and catch her for a restart |
| 14:56 | Joubu | kidclamp: bug 21213 will add diag to Circulation.t in order to have more info on next failures (currently we have D9 failing because of that) |
| 14:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21213 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Circulation.t needs diagnostics |
| 14:57 | kidclamp | I just gave him a botsnack, how was I to know wahanui had peanut allergies |
| 14:59 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:00 | Freddy_Enrique | XD |
| 15:01 | at least we have huginn....yet... | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | (kidclamp: read "Can I get a quick push pleaaaaaase?") |
| 15:01 | * oleonard | pats huginn affectionately |
| 15:02 | ashimema | is that right Joubu... you've increased the test plan from 14 to 21 yet I only see one 'is' test adde |
| 15:02 | * ashimema | may be being thick and missing something though |
| 15:02 | Joubu | apply and read ;) |
| 15:03 | it's in a sub | |
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| 15:04 | ashimema | ah.. I see |
| 15:04 | cait | hm maybe silly question |
| 15:04 | PREDUE and PREDUDGST | |
| 15:04 | i always thought PREDUE was one item per email... or is it one library per email? | |
| 15:05 | ah nv - found an example in the db | |
| 15:05 | it's definitely one item each | |
| 15:05 | * ashimema | really wishes splinter would give more context.. but of course it can't as it only has the patch to go on. |
| 15:06 | ashimema | if signoff/qa is holding kidclamp back I'm happy to sign it off now ;) |
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| 15:06 | Veronica | reservation alerts to the email as activate it in koha, thanks |
| 15:07 | caroline_ | Veronica: you have to enable EnhancedMessagingPreferences in system preferences |
| 15:08 | Veronica: make sure in Tools > Notices & Slips you have a letter called HOLD | |
| 15:09 | Veronica | SI |
| 15:09 | caroline_ | Veronica: for each patron, go to their record and activate the letter in "Patron messaging preferences" |
| 15:09 | Am I missing somthing? | |
| 15:09 | Veronica | what steps should I do? |
| 15:10 | caroline_ | Veronica: Did you check if the EnhancedMessagingPreferences was activated in Administration > System Preferences? |
| 15:11 | Veronica | If you already activate. |
| 15:11 | caroline_ | Veronica: ok, do you have an email address in KohaAdminEmailAddress? |
| 15:12 | Veronica: now go into Administration > Patron categories | |
| 15:12 | Veronica | yes :) |
| 15:13 | caroline_ | For each patron category, check "Hold filled" in Default messaging preferences for this patron category |
| 15:14 | This will make sure that all new patrons will have the reservation emails | |
| 15:15 | For the patrons yu already have, you can go in the record and edit the part "Patron messaging preferences" and check the "hold filled" box | |
| 15:15 | Veronica | Thank you very much |
| 15:15 | caroline_ | Now try to make a reservation and confirm it to make sure you receive the email |
| 15:18 | Veronica | I will try to make the reservation, thank you very much |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | yes, will push asap, in a meeting atm |
| 15:18 | caroline_ | Veronica: no problem! :) |
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| 15:33 | Freddy_Enrique | caroline++ |
| 15:38 | tcohen | Veronica: once you enable the EnhancedMessagingPreferencese, there might be still the need to set those for each patron |
| 15:38 | i.e. rules are configured globally, but the existing patrons don't have them chosen | |
| 15:39 | cait | caroline++ |
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| 16:44 | cait | Joubu: around? |
| 16:48 | Joubu | yep |
| 16:49 | cait | your comment on the accountlines bug |
| 16:49 | bug 21065 | |
| 16:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21065 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Data in account_offsets and accountlines is deleted with the patron leaving gaps in financial reports |
| 16:49 | cait | was that the suggested solution or did i miss something? :) |
| 16:52 | Joubu | ho I did not see it, I thought it was the current table structure |
| 16:52 | cait | ok, now more confused |
| 16:52 | isn't the set null only for items? | |
| 16:52 | and on cascade for borrowernumber? | |
| 16:56 | Joubu | hu |
| 16:56 | cait | sorry, long day already, not quite sure i make sense still |
| 16:56 | Joubu | so it was the current table structure! |
| 16:56 | cait | yes |
| 16:56 | copy then master i think | |
| 16:57 | Joubu | would you agree to replace the on delete cascade with a on delete set null for the borrower FK? |
| 16:57 | cait | i think it would be the quickest fix |
| 16:57 | so yep | |
| 16:57 | Joubu | and what would be the best fix? |
| 16:57 | cait | i can't really think of another |
| 16:57 | Joubu | so the quickest it the best one and the only one |
| 16:57 | cait | i think keeping the borrowernumber would be something some libraries might like... but i am not sure if that's valid |
| 16:57 | Joubu | I like that |
| 16:58 | cait | if you have paid your fines, that might be hard to argue for |
| 16:58 | right to be forgotten and all | |
| 16:59 | Joubu | I do not think patrons can be deleted if they have fines, at least from the interface |
| 16:59 | cait | no they can't |
| 16:59 | Joubu | forget that |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Joubu: Looking again at Bug 13618, are you saying that it is expected to get alerts from admin/branches.pl and admin/itemtypes.pl? |
| 17:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Prevent XSS in the Staff Client and the OPAC |
| 17:04 | Joubu | yes |
| 17:04 | oleonard | Okay |
| 17:04 | Joubu | well, it is what I am expecting, I may be wrong |
| 17:07 | oleonard | I found two issues I missed before. Hopefully they won't be too complicated to address. |
| 17:07 | cait | and also oleonard++ |
| 17:13 | and actually we can talk about it normally | |
| 17:13 | i tihnk it's just a feeling of not wanting to advertise? opac is public | |
| 17:17 | i just thought you might enjoy it or use it hwen someone asks if they can catalog X in koha :) | |
| 17:20 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 17:20 | :) | |
| 17:20 | Joubu | We need to catalogue Koha installations then |
| 17:20 | cait | hehe |
| 17:20 | Joubu | or our bugs |
| 17:20 | cait | marc records for hea data? |
| 17:22 | Joubu | well, we would use the metadata table with json |
| 17:23 | cait | :) |
| 17:28 | paxed | btw, the finish koha libraries will stop using the opac (some already have done so), and use the finnish national library's finna portal |
| 17:28 | derp. | |
| 17:28 | finnish* | |
| 18:05 | oleonard | Joubu: I'm having a problem with holds.js, but I'm not sure why... |
| 18:06 | TypeError: oObj.itemcallnumber is undefined (line 50) | |
| 18:09 | Joubu | heh |
| 18:09 | I think I closed my eyes on something with that | |
| 18:10 | ha nope, I do not recreate that one | |
| 18:10 | oleonard: does it happen with any items? | |
| 18:11 | oleonard | I'll try more examples |
| 18:14 | Joubu | oleonard: I got it, biblio level holds |
| 18:18 | oleonard: follow-up pushed | |
| 18:20 | oleonard | Great, that fixes it for me. |
| 18:29 | See you later #koha | |
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| 18:41 | caroline | librarians, do you guys often have information other than the isbn in 020$a? (like "(paperback)") |
| 18:42 | I'm noticing that it's screwing up the ISBN matching rules, but I'm wondering if it's just the way we do it here | |
| 18:43 | Dyrcona | caroline: That is normal for MARC records. Newer records should be using 020$q, at least in the USA. |
| 18:49 | caroline | Dyrcona: thanks! I had seen the documentation on 020 $q, so I was wondering why that kind of information was in 020$a. Good to know that it changed |
| 18:49 | Dyrcona | Yeah, the $q is relatively new. |
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| 18:50 | Dyrcona | Most of our records have that extra information in the 020$a. |
| 18:52 | caroline | Dyrcona: so when you import records and check for duplicates with the ISBN does it consider "ISBN (cover)" different that "ISBN" ? |
| 18:52 | Is this what AggressiveMatchOnISBN is supposed to do? | |
| 18:52 | Dyrcona | caroline: I actually work with Evergreen and not Koha. Evergreen has code to deal with the extra info in the subfield a. |
| 18:53 | caroline | Dyrcona: ah! a lurker unmasked! ;) |
| 18:53 | Dyrcona | :) |
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| 19:27 | cait | i think some of koha's code can deal with it... or uses data of it |
| 19:27 | is that the field that also can have hte price? | |
| 19:28 | i might just be confused | |
| 19:28 | caroline | cait: I think AgressiveMatchOnISBN covers that problem |
| 19:28 | cait | cool :) |
| 19:28 | caroline | I tried it and it seemed to find the record with stuff after the ISBN |
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| 19:31 | * andreashm | waves |
| 19:31 | cait | it shoudl not be too hard to strip out the isbn |
| 19:31 | caroline | hi andreashm! |
| 19:31 | cait | hi andreashm :) |
| 19:31 | andreashm | hi caroline and cait! |
| 20:26 | cait | wizzyrea: around? |
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| 21:15 | wizzyrea | yep sup |
| 21:16 | hi cait | |
| 21:41 | cait | oh hey! |
| 21:42 | was owndering if you were the right person to ask about bringing back wahanui? | |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea: ^ | |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | no, rangi is, but he's away from his desk |
| 21:42 | cait | aah |
| 21:42 | ok | |
| 21:44 | cool | |
| 21:46 | caroline | see y'all tomorrow #koha! |
| 21:48 | cait | bye #koha |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | good night |
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