← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index
All times shown according to UTC.
| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:54 | dpk_ joined #koha | |
| 01:43 | swift101 joined #koha | |
| 01:43 | swift101 joined #koha | |
| 01:44 | wozy joined #koha | |
| 01:45 | wozy | hi, I'm running koha 17.11 and fines wouldn't calculate |
| 01:45 | I ran the script: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl | |
| 01:53 | swift1011 joined #koha | |
| 01:54 | wozy joined #koha | |
| 01:57 | wozy_ joined #koha | |
| 02:03 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 02:03 | wozy joined #koha | |
| 02:03 | wozy | hello |
| 02:13 | swift101 joined #koha | |
| 02:13 | swift101 | I have a problem running fine.pl can someone pleaes help out? |
| 02:42 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 03:18 | swift1011 joined #koha | |
| 03:20 | swift1011 | i get this error after running /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl |
| 03:20 | unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 243. | |
| 04:51 | swift1011 joined #koha | |
| 04:56 | swiftt joined #koha | |
| 04:59 | wozy joined #koha | |
| 05:03 | indradg joined #koha | |
| 05:16 | swift1011 joined #koha | |
| 05:24 | swiftt joined #koha | |
| 06:20 | kohaputti__ joined #koha | |
| 06:23 | laurence joined #koha | |
| 06:35 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:48 | AndrewIsh joined #koha | |
| 07:07 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 07:07 | fridolin | hie there |
| 07:11 | lds joined #koha | |
| 07:26 | kohaputti joined #koha | |
| 08:22 | andreashm joined #koha | |
| 08:26 | andreashm | hi #koha |
| 08:27 | calire joined #koha | |
| 08:48 | tuxayo | Ho I just found out that version 3 of Mailman stops storing the passwords in plain text! https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%[…]s%20completely%3F |
| 08:48 | Finally! Because that might not even be legal now with the GDPR right? | |
| 08:52 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:54 | tuxayo | Koha-Pink? What is that?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABtfre94Xj0 |
| 09:06 | andreashm | tuxayo: haha |
| 09:06 | tuxayo | I watched it 3 times and I still don't get it. |
| 09:06 | * tuxayo | watches a fourth time |
| 09:08 | calire | babymetal are better ;) |
| 09:22 | tuxayo | calire: ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKqgE4BwAY |
| 09:22 | Indeed I prefer their music and choregraphy. | |
| 09:22 | Lacks pink and Koha though. | |
| 09:22 | cait | bye all |
| 09:22 | calire | tuxayo yes |
| 09:25 | tuxayo | Ho, we made cait run away with our "interesting videos" |
| 09:26 | andreashm | =) |
| 09:54 | kidclamp | hi wozy, do you have finesmode set to 'calcdulate and charge'? |
| 09:55 | oops, i was scrolled bacl | |
| 10:14 | ashimema | oleonard around? |
| 10:47 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #38: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/38/ |
| 10:53 | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #35: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/35/ | |
| 11:10 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #39: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/39/ | |
| 11:17 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 11:21 | ncbaratta joined #koha | |
| 11:24 | andreashm joined #koha | |
| 11:56 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 11:57 | oleonard | Hey gang |
| 11:58 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 12:04 | laurence joined #koha | |
| 12:11 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21141: Handle non-existent itemnumbers in batch item modification/deletion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f1df7445c6eeb4f9> |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21154: Remove unused subs from C4::Serials <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee07b5120a5413ca5> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21148: Dropdowns styled by the Select2 plugin do not highlight missing required... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1963de1888d2ca05d> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21056: Add another flush later <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]81f735b8494d60f42> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21132: Highlight active filters on saved report page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9415057448496eb82> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21131: Remove the TinyMCE.isDirty() check that caused unexpected behaviour <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ead37c92eac8179b2> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 19291: Make breadcrumbs for OPAC search history consistent with other patron... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]601666916287c8ec5> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20828: Step 4 of moremember is used for Housebound and additional attributes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]62ffe3efe19ccc4f8> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21050: Fix datepickers on LabelItemSearch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cfde2e9be1cdcccef> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21056: Changing the logged in library can fail sporadically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbdc2fb00f66f5485> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21035: Handle new lines when running reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e329d72d065f4b1d9> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 21033: Remove few warns in acqui/basket.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39146b59fa10c3ab3> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20660: Return date override affects debarments in AddReturn <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36f8f4001157771b4> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20660: Test AddReturn with $return_date override <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ecbd9a3adba173fd> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20779: Style refresh for patron detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2c3afe1b159ad5fa> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18586: Create module to mint RDF subject URIs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43545fba0803e6b99> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18635: Koha::Patron->guarantees() should return results alphabetically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d88be23757df0ef5> | |
| 12:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18635: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c508c32f75b09aa1> | |
| 12:36 | andreashm | oh, and I was just going to ask what was happening with bug 19469. |
| 12:36 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype |
| 12:36 | andreashm | thanks ashimema! |
| 12:38 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #534: UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/534/ |
| 12:39 | ashimema | thank kidclamp, he just brought it to my attention ;) |
| 12:39 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #24: UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/24/ |
| 12:40 | andreashm | kidclamp++ |
| 12:40 | ashimema++ | |
| 12:40 | * andreashm | would love to see that bug move along. |
| 12:42 | andreashm | obviously. =) |
| 12:50 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #24: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/24/ |
| 13:04 | barton joined #koha | |
| 13:10 | ashimema | woopie.. ptfs sandboxes are finally working again |
| 13:11 | andreashm | great! |
| 13:11 | * ashimema | does one last test before amending the maintanence notice on the community wiki |
| 13:14 | kohaputti | would having a search endpoint in the REST api make any sense? |
| 13:15 | you could search with keyword, field, whatever and would get back json of biblionumbers where the search matched | |
| 13:15 | kmlussier joined #koha | |
| 13:16 | kohaputti | And I know there is SRU already, but it doesn't work with elasticsearch |
| 13:18 | ashimema | can you not just open the ES search endpoints to the public? |
| 13:19 | kohaputti | ashimema, I don't know if it is good idea security wise |
| 13:22 | also the elasticsearch query language is different from what koha users use. | |
| 13:24 | eythian | exposing ES to the public is a bad idea, e.g. hidden items, and people perhaps putting other things in ES alongside the biblio data. |
| 13:24 | ashimema | fair enough |
| 13:24 | dj joined #koha | |
| 13:24 | irma joined #koha | |
| 13:24 | ashimema | so what exactly would be be suggesting with a search endpoint |
| 13:25 | kohaputti | ashimema, I would like to have the same results as a patron would get when searching in OPAC |
| 13:26 | ashimema | SRU is well defined, well known and supported and has a solid search syntax worked out.. I'd advocate working on a SRU module that used the ES backend |
| 13:26 | kohaputti | that way I could build a separate client software for koha, search, login, reservations,... |
| 13:26 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:26 | ashimema | but I'm not keen to impliment yet another home grown api for it personally |
| 13:26 | kohaputti | ashimema, SRU that uses ES as backend sounds nice |
| 13:26 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 13:26 | ashimema | is there not a plan for doing that in the long term ES plan somewhere? |
| 13:27 | all it needs is for someone to work on it ;) | |
| 13:31 | kohaputti | ashimema, I have not seen on wiki, should we write it down somewhere over there? (suggestions on which page are welcome) |
| 13:32 | ashimema | I must have just heard it in passing somewhere.. kidclamp may know if theres more of a plan or anything to do it |
| 13:32 | or if anyone else has expressed interest yet and may work with you on it? | |
| 13:33 | kidclamp | yeah, we need some sort of filter to allow ES from the outside - it provides no security if you just open it (all records deleted!!!!) I don't know of any SRU plans or search endpoint, but both are good options to me |
| 13:36 | Nemo_bis | ES needs some precautions to avoid privilege escalation |
| 13:36 | kohaputti | so somebody has to built it, and it doesn't even have to be Koha related if I'm thinking this right (but then it would mean having a standard way of doing mapping for elasticsearch). |
| 13:37 | Nemo_bis, you could probably have read-only replication node for elasticsearch that could be used as public endpoint | |
| 13:42 | caroline joined #koha | |
| 13:42 | caroline | Hello #koha! |
| 13:50 | oleonard | Hi caroline we are all here but working super-hard on so many things |
| 13:50 | There is steam rising off of #koha from all the working. | |
| 13:56 | magnuse | there was also talk about using es for searching patrons, i think |
| 14:00 | oleonard | There was such talk. |
| 14:01 | eythian | yeah, I remember suggesting that when first exploring ES |
| 14:02 | Joubu | well, there were patches yes, bug 17500 |
| 14:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons |
| 14:02 | cait joined #koha | |
| 14:08 | calire left #koha | |
| 14:31 | * cait | waves |
| 14:32 | mirkh joined #koha | |
| 14:32 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
| 14:32 | tjänare mirkh | |
| 14:33 | oleonard | Has anyone here tested Bug 19532 before? |
| 14:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P3, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
| 14:33 | oleonard | I can't figure out how to make something "available" for recall. |
| 14:34 | magnuse | there is no (easy) way to get rid of automatic left truncation for patron searches, right? (except for when you go to patrons and click on the [+]) |
| 14:34 | * ashimema | wonders why you'd want to get right of left truncation... |
| 14:35 | Joubu | magnuse: use * |
| 14:37 | magnuse | ashimema: because when you are looking for Öberg you don't want all the people called Sjöberg? |
| 14:37 | ashimema | Oh.. I see |
| 14:38 | magnuse | Joubu: how should i use * to not truncate? |
| 14:40 | ashimema | I think my brain thought of truncation meaning something different there |
| 14:41 | I would say 'Öberg' should match 'Öberg', 'Öberg' would match 'Sjöberg' and 'Öberg' would match 'Öbergly' | |
| 14:42 | magnuse | ashimema: missing something in the last sentence? |
| 14:42 | ashimema | i bet that's just me getting technical terms confused though right |
| 14:43 | your right.. | |
| 14:43 | and 'Öberg' should read 'Öberg*' | |
| 14:43 | but I presume from your correcting me you understood what I was getting at | |
| 14:44 | magnuse | huh, is there something special about the ö? |
| 14:44 | ashimema | I suppose it's 'phrase', 'word' or 'part of word' matching I'm thinking |
| 14:44 | pass | |
| 14:44 | I was surprised you said searching 'Öberg' would match 'Sjöberg' | |
| 14:44 | I wouldn't have expected it to.. | |
| 14:45 | cait | i thin left truncation was needed for double names |
| 14:45 | magnuse | "öberg" gives me sjöberg, but "fjord" does not give me alefjord? |
| 14:45 | mirkh joined #koha | |
| 14:45 | cait | and maybe spanish names too? |
| 14:45 | ashimema | i'd have expected you to need to search '*Öberg' for it to end up including 'Sjöberg' in the results |
| 14:45 | Joubu | sorry, read the reverse, I missed "get rid of" :) |
| 14:46 | magnuse | ah |
| 14:46 | cait: have you seen this with german names? for ö or ä? | |
| 14:47 | i have set the collation for borrowers.surname to utf8_swedish_ci btw | |
| 14:58 | forget that, now searching for "fjord" gives me "alefjord" | |
| 14:59 | * magnuse | is confused |
| 15:00 | cait | we had no complaines |
| 15:00 | complains | |
| 15:00 | complaints? | |
| 15:01 | tcohen | hola magnuse y cait |
| 15:01 | cait | so far about the search, i haven't investigated it more closely |
| 15:01 | magnuse | yeah, noone mentioned it to me before either |
| 15:01 | ¡hola tcohen! | |
| 15:25 | laurence left #koha | |
| 15:25 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20427: (RM follow-up) Add compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb397c5a1e89bcfe2> |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (RM follow-up) Compiled css <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f0affabe671993e6> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20427: (follow-up) Bring SCSS up to date with latest LESS changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a1702164d5a3bf02> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 21188: Convert return_date to a DateTime object <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]760ac0e626f952be5> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (follow-up) Bring scss up to date with latest CSS changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d3750ded3dc2a518> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 20427: Convert OPAC LESS to SCSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4139525d79d8c0af5> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 19474: Convert staff client CSS to SCSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1b70c12d1c1beb0a4> | |
| 15:25 | News from kohagit: Bug 19474: (QA follow-up) Fix sass lint yaml configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]37c6686e9a04a7cfc> | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | wooooooo |
| 15:27 | * oleonard | dies |
| 15:28 | ashimema | huh |
| 15:28 | cait | noooo |
| 15:30 | kidclamp | noo? |
| 15:30 | ashimema | we don't want oleonard to die.. |
| 15:30 | we have too much still for him to do ;) | |
| 15:31 | kidclamp | oh, I thought you meant about the patches |
| 15:32 | oleonard | Okay, yeah, I gotta stay alive to clean up whatever mess I've just inadvertently made |
| 15:32 | * oleonard | is ever the optimist |
| 15:38 | tcohen | do we need to add things to kohadevbox aliases for this? |
| 15:38 | we probably had this conversation already, but I'm getting old and forget things | |
| 15:38 | :-P | |
| 15:39 | oleonard | tcohen: kohadevbox already installs node and npm, but now it needs yarn too |
| 15:39 | * ashimema | dreads any bugfixes that fix CSS now.. backporting just got a whole lot more interesting |
| 15:39 | oleonard | ashimema: I'd be happy to help |
| 15:40 | tcohen: LESS is gone now, so that alias and associated dependencies can go | |
| 15:40 | ashimema | hehe.. hopefully there won't be many that touch them.. but I will come knocking at your door should it not be obvious ;) |
| 15:41 | oleonard | ashimema: Doubly okay if it's my actual door you're knocking on. Pop on by! |
| 15:41 | tcohen | oleonard: point me to the wiki page explainin what is needeD? |
| 15:41 | kidclamp | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]staff_client_SCSS |
| 15:42 | ashimema | hehe.. I'd like that |
| 15:42 | oleonard | tcohen: I'll be updating that page to include information about the OPAC too |
| 15:42 | fridolin left #koha | |
| 15:42 | * tcohen | adds to his always growing TODO list |
| 15:44 | ashimema | todolists only ever grow tcohen.. didn't you know that.. they never shrink |
| 15:44 | ;) | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | "I've really opened a can of worms," he thought, realizing with horror that the saying is probably horribly untranslatable. |
| 15:53 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:53 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 15:54 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #535: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/535/ |
| 15:54 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/25/ | |
| 15:57 | cait | oleonard: pandora's box translates a little better |
| 15:57 | but what are we talking about? | |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Hoping that my SCSS patches don't create too many problems for tcohen and kohadevbox |
| 15:58 | tcohen | hehe, I will only add yarn to the tool set |
| 15:59 | oleonard: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]devbox/issues/265 | |
| 16:00 | oleonard | tcohen++ |
| 16:01 | cait | oleonard++ tcohen++ |
| 16:02 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 16:03 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #25: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/25/ |
| 16:10 | Shane-S joined #koha | |
| 16:16 | oleonard | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_and_staff_client |
| 16:17 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 16:17 | Karen_ joined #koha | |
| 16:17 | Karen_ | prevent other users from booking an item that is already booked, thanks. |
| 16:17 | prevent other users from booking an item that is already booked, thanks | |
| 16:22 | prevent other users from booking if the registration is already booked by another, thanks | |
| 16:24 | caroline | Karen_: I don't think it's possible in Koha |
| 16:24 | oleonard | Karen_: Prevent other users from placing a hold on an item which already has a hold on it? |
| 16:25 | caroline | That's how I understood the question |
| 16:26 | oleonard | If so, I agree with caroline. I don't know how you'd do that in Koha. |
| 16:26 | Karen_ | Prevent other users from placing a hold on an item which already has a hold on it?Yes,Oleonard |
| 16:26 | caroline | Other than prohibiting holds in the OPAC and controling each hold in the intranet to make sure there isn't another hold on it |
| 16:26 | It can be labor intensive, but if there aren't that many holds, it could work | |
| 16:33 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #39: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/39/ |
| 16:33 | Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #40: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/40/ | |
| 16:34 | Shane-S | So...I went from 17.05 to 18.05 and I have a plain HTML view...any clues.. http://library.npelem.com |
| 16:36 | caroline | Shane-S: Oh, yeah I had that too. Let me try to remember how I fixed it |
| 16:36 | It was somthing in the conf files I think | |
| 16:37 | oleonard | It's the new Apache rewrite rules isn't it? |
| 16:37 | caroline | yes that's it |
| 16:37 | cait | i think it is |
| 16:37 | we agree :) | |
| 16:37 | who is lookign for the bug? | |
| 16:38 | https://koha-community.org/koha-18-05-released/ > lok here for 'apache' | |
| 16:38 | it's bug 12904 | |
| 16:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade |
| 16:39 | Shane-S | ty |
| 16:52 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #36: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/36/ |
| 17:08 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 17:09 | huginn | cait: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
| 17:09 | cait | oh no.... |
| 17:09 | Shane-S | is bug 12904 not pushed yet and I have to manually edit the configs...and I can't find the list of what apache configs needs the rewite rules |
| 17:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade |
| 17:09 | cait | it has been pushed |
| 17:10 | Shane-S | I literally just did the upgrade today, so might I just need to restart apache? |
| 17:10 | I am installed from packages | |
| 17:10 | cait | i am not sure |
| 17:10 | tcohen: Joubu maybe? | |
| 17:11 | Shane-S | okay can't hurt to restart, so I will try that and see. |
| 17:11 | cait | ok |
| 17:11 | keeping fingers crossed | |
| 17:11 | if oyu haven't yet.. always also restart plack and memcache on updates, to be sure | |
| 17:11 | Shane-S | I am doing full server reboot |
| 17:12 | khall joined #koha | |
| 17:13 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 17:13 | cait | hi khall and JesseM |
| 17:13 | JesseM | Hi cait |
| 17:13 | kidclamp | bunch a slackers |
| 17:13 | khall | hi cait! tomas just let me know I've been missing from IRC ;) |
| 17:13 | cait | you have been |
| 17:13 | khall | my bad |
| 17:14 | cait | glad to have you back :) |
| 17:18 | Shane-S | *sigh* Internal Server Error...was hoping upgrade would fix this...I can find a log entry for it anywhere... |
| 17:19 | Whenever I try and adjust a patron card size... ibstaff.npelem.com/cgi-bin/koha/patroncards/edit-template.pl | |
| 17:19 | cait | did you update to the latest 18.05? |
| 17:20 | Shane-S | I am just trying to adjust a card template's margin and it just saying Internal Error, yeah 18.05.02 now |
| 17:20 | cait | ah labels |
| 17:20 | Shane-S | was doing it on 17.05 |
| 17:20 | cait | internal server errors go into the plack-error-log |
| 17:20 | Shane-S | ah I was looking in apache's |
| 17:20 | cait | we've had some problems with a borked printer profile |
| 17:20 | Shane-S | ty |
| 17:21 | oleonard_ joined #koha | |
| 17:21 | cait | if there is one linked, maybe try to remove it for a test |
| 17:34 | sterling joined #koha | |
| 17:42 | InstantStar joined #koha | |
| 17:47 | indradg joined #koha | |
| 17:48 | Shane-S | I can't find a 500 error, aren't internal server errors logged as 500? |
| 17:48 | best I can find is a 404.pl in the plack.log | |
| 17:52 | cait | are you looking at th eplack log? |
| 17:53 | plack-error-log i mean? | |
| 17:53 | there are no html error codes, perl errors | |
| 17:53 | look at it with tail and then trigger the error in the gui | |
| 17:54 | @later tell could you maybe take a look at my patch on bug 20504? | |
| 17:54 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:55 | oleonard | cait: Did you just tell huginn to give that message to someone named "could" ? |
| 18:05 | tcohen | Shane-S: are you running plack? |
| 18:13 | cait | oleonard: i guess so... |
| 18:13 | thx for telling me :) | |
| 18:13 | @later tell Joubu could you maybe take a look at my patch on bug 20504? | |
| 18:13 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:14 | could | Hello I'm could how do you do? |
| 18:14 | cait | :P |
| 18:14 | oleonard | cait: I got your message, thanks! ;) |
| 18:15 | Joubu | cait: add me to the cc list please |
| 18:16 | cait | DONE THX |
| 18:16 | done thx even | |
| 18:16 | seems my typing is a bit off tonight | |
| 18:28 | oleonard | See y'all tomorrow |
| 18:29 | kmlussier joined #koha | |
| 19:17 | caroline | What would you guys suggest for an organization that needs to have authorities for publishers? Add CORPO_NAME contraint to 264$b or put the publisher in 710$a? I'm afraid if it's in 710 it will get mixed up with secondary authors |
| 19:18 | Or maybe create a 790 field that would be used just for publishers? | |
| 19:18 | tcohen | 710 + $ePublisher? |
| 19:18 | caroline | Would that be searchable though? |
| 19:19 | there is a publisher index I think | |
| 19:27 | tcohen | caroline: making it searchable using the Publisher index would require touching some files |
| 19:27 | gimme a sec | |
| 19:27 | the Publisher index gets filled with 260$b | |
| 19:28 | caroline | That's why I'm wondering if it would just be easier for everybody to add an authority constraint to 264$b (my Publisher index is mapped to 260$b and 264$b) |
| 19:29 | Would there be downsides to that? | |
| 19:31 | (they are not librarians, just a small not for profit, and I told them the library police is not going to arrest them if they don't catalog *exactly* the way librarian do it :P) | |
| 19:32 | cait | i think 264 would mak esense |
| 19:32 | but don' tknow if you will get the right display, the xslt doesn't expect authorities htere | |
| 19:33 | probably onl ygenerates a link on the text | |
| 19:33 | caroline | ok, I guess I can ask my team to tweak the xslt as if it was an authority |
| 19:34 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 19:40 | lukeG joined #koha | |
| 19:52 | caroline | cait: do you think C4/Heading/MARC21.pm would hinder my efforts since 264 is not in there? |
| 19:53 | cait | it might only be used when importing |
| 19:54 | hm | |
| 19:54 | let's se | |
| 19:54 | e | |
| 19:56 | i am not sure | |
| 19:57 | seems to be used for the linker | |
| 19:57 | the autmatic one | |
| 20:00 | caroline | I don't see why we would have the possibility to choose a thesaurus in marc frameworks if it's not possible to use authorities elsewhere other than in 1XX, 6XX, 7XX and 8XX |
| 20:01 | And also why we could create new authority types if they are hardcoded | |
| 20:01 | kmlussier joined #koha | |
| 20:05 | cait | yeah i think it was definitely thought to allow it |
| 20:05 | we might have 'broken' it a little, that I can't outrule | |
| 20:10 | * caroline | is definitely NOT being chased by the library police for misusing authority records |
| 20:14 | cait | hehe |
| 20:21 | lukeG joined #koha | |
| 20:42 | Adel joined #koha | |
| 21:04 | Joubu | cait: did you find where $lang from preferences.pl was passed to the template? |
| 21:04 | cait | hm? |
| 21:04 | i deleted the line wher eit was passed | |
| 21:04 | i didn't see it in the template | |
| 21:05 | Joubu | -$lang = $template->param( 'lang' ); |
| 21:05 | this one? | |
| 21:05 | cait | yeah |
| 21:05 | that's what i spotted first an dnoticed it fixed the html tag | |
| 21:05 | because we have a global one called lang | |
| 21:05 | Joubu | it's not passed, it's set from the url params |
| 21:06 | cait | it's a bit confusing to figure this out... the one in preferences.pl appeared to never be initialized? |
| 21:06 | and it showed as empty in the templates | |
| 21:06 | systempreferences.pl does set it | |
| 21:06 | i think | |
| 21:09 | Joubu | whaou |
| 21:09 | that's terribly buggy | |
| 21:09 | cait | that bad? |
| 21:09 | Joubu | I do not think so |
| 21:10 | actually: | |
| 21:10 | cait | i got quite confused... that's why i wondered if you could take a look :) |
| 21:10 | Joubu | $lang = $template->param( 'lang' ); |
| 21:10 | should be: $lang = $input->param( 'lang' ); | |
| 21:10 | I guess | |
| 21:10 | cait | ah |
| 21:10 | an dthen it would actually be set right | |
| 21:10 | ? | |
| 21:11 | should i try? | |
| 21:11 | Joubu | if you replace template with input it works |
| 21:11 | cait | hah |
| 21:11 | i will do a new patch in a bit | |
| 21:11 | just working on something else first that's almost finished | |
| 21:11 | Joubu | but all that code dealing with the language in admin/*pref*.pl seems useless |
| 21:11 | cait | it is a bit odd |
| 21:12 | i think part of the code pulls the right pref files? | |
| 21:12 | as we use yaml there... not the usual way | |
| 21:12 | and another mayybe to build the languages list | |
| 21:13 | Joubu | I think your patch is ok |
| 21:13 | but I do not understand why it fixes the issue :) | |
| 21:13 | Adel | Hello, I hope this is the right place to ask. I'm going to start an internship and I need to implement a library system so I'm looking this way, but are there any time estimates for setting up Koha? |
| 21:14 | caroline | Adel wow that is a mighty project for an internship! |
| 21:14 | Joubu | hello Adel, yes it's the place to ask, welcome :) |
| 21:15 | Are you dev or librarian? | |
| 21:15 | Adel | I'm a dev, they wanted me to build one but no way in hell I'm going to finish that in an internship |
| 21:16 | It's a single library, not very large, they have all their records on Excel and want to modernize | |
| 21:17 | Joubu | cait: ok silly me, it fixes it because $template->param('lang') unset the value sent from C4::Auth, so your patch is perfect as it |
| 21:17 | cait | yeah, creating a new one is not what i would recommend |
| 21:17 | Joubu: that's what i reckoned | |
| 21:17 | Joubu: and it never seemed to pass the language to GetTranslatesLanguages | |
| 21:17 | becuase it never really got the lang... but it didn't seem to break htings... because it's not using the return? | |
| 21:17 | quite... odd | |
| 21:17 | caroline | Adel with my colleagues here who are devs (I'm a librarian) the minimum I've seen is 3 months, but they have been doing it for 10 years |
| 21:18 | cait | it depends on the library, the data... what functionality they want to use |
| 21:18 | caroline | so all the tools to convert excel files for example are already coded |
| 21:18 | cait | and probably a bit on your background for the time needed to migrate date and set up the production system - lots of variables |
| 21:19 | Joubu: so you'd leave it as is? | |
| 21:19 | Joubu | cait: the bug is that call: $template->param('lang'); the other changes your patch made are just removing useless code, so it's fine to have them |
| 21:19 | yes | |
| 21:19 | cait | cool thx :) |
| 21:19 | Joubu: using a bit of vacation time for practicing problem solving... | |
| 21:20 | Adel | Oh snap, that's longer than I thought, the worst thing is that they want a project plan before approving the funds |
| 21:21 | cait | how long is your internship? |
| 21:21 | caroline | Adel: although we don't work on one project full time, so it might take you a lot less time (expecially if the team is smaller... more ppl = more time) |
| 21:22 | Adel | Officially 4 months, I wouldn't be working full time either, but I'd be the only intern, although I was told I could be given more time outside the internship |
| 21:23 | cait | Using Koha will require you to convert the excel data into Marc21 |
| 21:24 | which is a library stnadard format for bibliographic data - that can be a bit tricky | |
| 21:24 | but maybe try out one of the demos to get an idea of Koha and give it a few days to set up a installation and see how it goes for a start? | |
| 21:24 | alexbuckley joined #koha | |
| 21:24 | caroline | cait: the conversion would be the biggest chunk no? |
| 21:24 | installation is pretty quick? | |
| 21:24 | cait | caroline: i guess... well if it's only a few fields maybe it could be ok |
| 21:25 | but with no library background marc21 has a bit of a steep learning curve i guess | |
| 21:25 | :) | |
| 21:25 | Adel: if you try, make sure you use the packages | |
| 21:25 | packages? | |
| 21:25 | ah still no wahanu | |
| 21:25 | i | |
| 21:26 | caroline | he's still on the beach... |
| 21:26 | cait | wizzyrea: can you restart wahanui? |
| 21:26 | Adel | If entering data takes up the most of the time maybe I could get some help from the librarian. |
| 21:26 | cait | how many do they have? |
| 21:26 | Adel | Probably just one, it's a small library |
| 21:26 | cait | ah, i meant items/books |
| 21:26 | :) | |
| 21:27 | sometimes it's easier to just enter them again instead of migrating, but depends on how many and if you got the time etc | |
| 21:27 | koha can pull data from external catalogs, so if you have isbn etc you can get nice records | |
| 21:27 | Adel | Oh, not sure, I actually told them I'd send them a few questions and I'd make the project plan based on that feedback, I don't want to spend too much time gathering information without getting paid for it. |
| 21:27 | caroline | true |
| 21:27 | cait | i'd ask them for a data sample maybe and some numbers |
| 21:28 | Adel | Sounds great, could there be anything else I need to consider? :) |
| 21:28 | cait | what do they want to do with the system? |
| 21:29 | caroline | let me check the questions we ask our clients |
| 21:29 | cait | circulation? cataloguing? OPAC? acquisitions? subscrpition management... |
| 21:30 | caroline | what data they have, the format, etc. Also the patron data and how it is stored (excel/csv or other format) |
| 21:30 | Adel | They said they wanted it locally but chances are they'll want OPAC for convenience. |
| 21:31 | caroline | what equipment they already have vs what they will need to buy (servers, scanners, depending on what they want to do) |
| 21:32 | cait | what kind of a library is it? |
| 21:32 | public library, company library... | |
| 21:33 | Adel | private library, private school, it's a single room, although I haven't entered to guesstimate the amount of books. |
| 21:33 | cait | ah a school |
| 21:33 | cool | |
| 21:33 | Adel | caroline: that's really helpful, thanks :D |
| 21:33 | caroline | also, for your planning, make sure you include personnalisation time |
| 21:33 | they may want you to change to look of the opac of somthing like that | |
| 21:35 | Joubu | Adel: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaDevBox if you want a local install easily and hack |
| 21:35 | caroline | I can't help you with computer stuff, but if you need help converting to marc or other library-specific question, don't hesitate to come looking for me here! ;) |
| 21:36 | cait | Adel: where are you located? |
| 21:36 | caroline | Oh yeah, also, if they have other software they want/need to be connected to koha (like a student database or something like that) |
| 21:37 | Adel | I'm in Mexico, so I'd need to install Koha in spanish |
| 21:37 | cait | spanish is no problem |
| 21:38 | make sure you install the language before you run the web installer | |
| 21:38 | because then you get the sample data installed in spanish too | |
| 21:38 | package commands for htis are here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ANET_staff_client | |
| 21:39 | Adel | caroline: I doubt it, they said they had zero systems in place, they'll probably want to log the who borrows the books at least, without user management. |
| 21:41 | caroline | They might have to manage users with koha even if its just to log issues and returns, but it can be kept at a minimum. |
| 21:42 | Adel | You mean staff? |
| 21:43 | caroline | staff and students (if they want to issue and return books through koha, students have to have a user file) |
| 21:43 | But it can be only their name and an id | |
| 21:44 | I guess they could lend all the books to the same user if they REALLY don't want to manage patron files | |
| 21:45 | At least just to know which books are borrowed and which are not | |
| 21:46 | Adel | Got it |
| 21:48 | caroline | cait: I think I found the problem with linking an authority to 264$b... I can't specify to copy the authority info in the b subfield... It goes directly to 264$a -_- |
| 21:49 | unless maybe if I only write in my b subfield in my authority... seems so counter intuitive | |
| 21:50 | Adel | I think that's all I needed to know, thanks to everyone for the help, I'll forward my questions to the school and check on what cait suggested while I wait for the feedback. (: |
| 21:50 | caroline | Good luck Adel ! |
| 21:51 | cait | good luck :) |
| 21:51 | caroline: hmpf | |
| 21:51 | about the authority | |
| 21:52 | found an older thread on the mailing list - maybe there is something useful in there https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]March/047450.html | |
| 21:55 | hm the same problem, but no solution | |
| 21:57 | caroline | hm, i tried filling in only the $b in my authority record and it worked, it copied in the 264$b field. BUT, if I search for my authority (in Authorities module) I have to search the entire record since there is no $a |
| 21:57 | I guess it's not the end of the world... I'll have to test more to see if it causes other problems | |
| 22:00 | cait | hm yeah, i see no way to change hte mapping for the copy action :( |
| 22:00 | like copy a to b | |
| 22:00 | caroline | cait: re: the mailing list, yeah I'm thinking maybe of putting a 710 or 71X field for the publisher, I just want it to be easy for them since they're not librarians |
| 22:01 | cait | yep |
| 22:01 | caroline | they are sooooo excited to have their collection in koha though! It is fun to watch the star in their eyes when they see ll the possibilities :D |
| 22:02 | cait | :) |
| 22:09 | irma_ joined #koha | |
| 22:12 | cait | interesting how things start to work once you start editing the correct files... |
| 22:14 | lukeG joined #koha | |
| 22:15 | caroline | Argh Zebra... You're the worst... |
| 22:16 | cait | in this case editing template files in the wrong koha repo :) |
| 22:16 | caroline | I think I better go, see y'all tomorrow! |
| 22:39 | papa1 joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | mirkh joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | cait joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | kohaputti joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | Infra_3600 joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | valterbarreira[m] joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | davidnind[m] joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | killer_bee[m] joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | ashimema joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | tuxayo joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | rkrimme1 joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | nlegrand joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | GiuseppeP joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | jomat joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | Joubu joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | kivilahtio joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | jenkins joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | sonOfRa joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | skimsk joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | jajm joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | matts joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | AnnaBoten joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | clrh joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | Nemo_bis joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | paxed joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | fredericd joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | janPasi joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | lari joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | danmichaelo joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | sen joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | rhamby joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | phasefx_ joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | Bmagic_ joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | logbot joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | ibeardslee joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | bag joined #koha | |
| 23:22 | pastebot joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | bshum joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | jcamins joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | dbs joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | Scott-CSPL joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | lavamind joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | blou joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | barton joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | Adel joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | huginn joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | rangi joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | gmcharlt joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | papa joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | lukeG joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | khall joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | kidclamp joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | misilot joined #koha | |
| 23:27 | abneiman joined #koha | |
| 23:46 | indradg_ joined #koha |
← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index