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| 06:23 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:23 | magnuse | yay, lots of irmas! :-) |
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| 06:25 | saa | many times our koha screen throws error "an error has occurred! Error 500" |
| 06:25 | after checking intranet log it says End of script output before header | |
| 06:25 | what could be wrong and how to sort it out | |
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:35 | saa | many times our koha screen throws error "an error has occurred! Error 500" [11:54] <saa> after checking intranet log it says End of script output before header |
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| 06:42 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:45 | matts | hello |
| 06:45 | wahanui | privet, matts |
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| 06:53 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 06:54 | saa: some guess: https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]n-apache#34255804 | |
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| 07:36 | * ashimema | is on community catch up today.. 18.05.x patching inbound ;) |
| 07:38 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
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| 09:28 | mtj | saa: what url generates the 500 error? what koha verson? |
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| 11:40 | saa | <tuxayo> saa: some guess: https://stackoverflow.com/ques[…]n-apache#34255804 |
| 11:40 | are u thr | |
| 11:40 | i need to know how to sort out in koha | |
| 11:40 | where should i give permissions | |
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| 11:44 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:46 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 11:46 | saa: something in the logs? | |
| 11:46 | cait | hi #koha |
| 11:46 | * andreashm | waves |
| 11:47 | saa | i am getting error 500 and i wish to know where should i change permissions as chmod 755 |
| 11:53 | oleonard | saa: Perhaps if you paste the last few lines of the error log to http://paste.koha-community.org it will be more clear what the problem is. |
| 11:54 | Joubu | if you get a 500 there is a more explicit message somewhere in your Koha log files |
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| 12:03 | saa | i have pasted intranet log |
| 12:05 | actually error is "error has ocurred error 500! this message may have been caused by any of the following reasons: !You made use of an external link to an item that is no longer available. You followed an outdated link. from a search engine or bookmark. You tried to access a page that needs authentication. | |
| 12:05 | oleonard | saa: You have to choose #koha as the channel on the paste page so that we all get a link to it. |
| 12:05 | saa | An internal link in the client is broken and the page does not exist. |
| 12:05 | ok | |
| 12:07 | pastebot | "saa" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error has occured Error 500" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/44 |
| 12:07 | saa | i have pasted intranet log |
| 12:08 | oleonard | saa: Is this a new installation? Or did you just upgrade? |
| 12:08 | saa | since it was throwing this error on 16.11 we just upgraded to 17.11 but still same error is coming |
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| 12:10 | Joubu | how often do you get it? |
| 12:12 | saa | earlier it was very often hence we thought we would upgrade and see |
| 12:13 | but if u see todays log it is thre after 10 min | |
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| 12:17 | Joubu | saa: which log file is that? |
| 12:18 | saa | intranet-error.log |
| 12:19 | Joubu | try to compare these entries with the access logs |
| 12:19 | in the access logs you should have the parameters passed to the script | |
| 12:20 | search for a hit to circulation.pl at 17:03:02, patronimage.pl at 17:05:03 then ysearch.pl at 17:18:02 | |
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| 12:21 | Joubu | and see if it's the same parameters passed (I am expecting a borrowernumber here) |
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| 12:29 | saa | let me check and comeback |
| 12:30 | is this anything to do with non exisiting borrowers | |
| 12:40 | oleonard | Is this a known error when editing patrons? "No property select_city for Koha::Patron at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73" |
| 12:41 | Joubu | oleonard: nope |
| 12:42 | Are you on master? I do not recreate it | |
| 12:43 | well, I do not have cities defined | |
| 12:44 | oleonard: now I get it. Could you report and assign it to me? | |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:52 | Bug 21136 | |
| 12:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21136 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Error "No property select_city for Koha::Patron" when saving patron record |
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| 13:00 | Joubu | thanks oleonard |
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| 13:25 | cait | oleonard: can you sign off? |
| 13:25 | i can do qa in a bit | |
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| 13:34 | oleonard | cait: Done. |
| 13:35 | cait | thx! |
| 13:35 | Joubu | oleonard, cait: I have submitted a patch on bug 21137. It is what I had in mind on bug 19291 |
| 13:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user |
| 13:35 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19291 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Make breadcrumbs for OPAC search history consistent with other patron account pages | |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Joubu: I started working on that too, and was planning to put 'othernames' into patron-title.inc. Do you think we shouldn't? |
| 13:46 | Joubu | oleonard: yes maybe |
| 13:47 | it's not displayed much at the OPAC | |
| 13:53 | oleonard | yeah I'm not sure if some libraries use it in a way that it's for staff eyes only. |
| 13:54 | I guess it's easier to leave it out and wait for someone to complain (which they haven't done yet) | |
| 13:55 | tcohen | alex_a: around? |
| 13:55 | there's a problem in ES5.6 (current 5.x stable) regarding booleans, have you noticed it? | |
| 13:56 | it seems to be a catmandu issue, not properly translating 0/1 into valid JSON boolean | |
| 14:04 | cait | oleonard: i think we use it for father#s name (russian) in some libraries |
| 14:05 | caroline | Would it be overkill do you think to add a note next to system preferences that require a cron? Like AutoResumeSuspendedHolds, we could write something like "Note: This requires the auto_unsuspend_hold.pl cronjob. Ask your system administrator to add it." |
| 14:05 | cait | caroline: i thnk we have it for some, i don#t think it would be overkill |
| 14:05 | helpful | |
| 14:06 | caroline | I could maybe make a list of all the sysprefs based on the cronjobs in the manual |
| 14:07 | And I'll add it to bugzilla (unfortunately, I don't know how to add those descriptions, otherwise, I would do it myself...) | |
| 14:07 | cait | the descriptions are int he .pref files |
| 14:08 | not too hard, if you want to give it a go | |
| 14:08 | caroline | I would have to commit and everything? >_< Maybe I'll try that on Friday |
| 14:08 | cait | :) |
| 14:09 | i have some appointments friday, so migtht not be here, but always happy to help if you get stuck | |
| 14:09 | caroline | btw, Eric asked me to check how much it would cost to fly to Portland! :D |
| 14:09 | cait | yay! |
| 14:12 | caroline | What would be the verb to go with a cron job? In the sentence "Ask your system administrator to..." run it? add it? add it to you crontab? |
| 14:12 | schedule it? | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | tell him your presence is inestimable for the community |
| 14:14 | oleonard | caroline: Tell him you won't be accepted into the inner circle until you can appear in person for the hazing process. |
| 14:14 | Joubu | caroline: usually the crontab already contain the list of all the cronjobs, but commented. So maybe the sys admin will jus need to uncomment it (?) |
| 14:15 | cait | schedule might be good |
| 14:15 | Joubu | yep, or set it up |
| 14:15 | cait | uncommenting is kind of scheduling... i guess? |
| 14:16 | Joubu | oleonard: what is the hazing processing this year? You are in charge of it, right? |
| 14:16 | patch the oldest opened bug? | |
| 14:16 | caroline | oleonard: ooh! I didn't know I was up for the inner circle ;) |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Joubu I'm having a hard time getting enough black robes |
| 14:17 | caroline | Joubu: eesh, I might not be able to do that though! |
| 14:18 | cait | caroline: you are definitely up :D |
| 14:18 | oleonard: what about the candles and stuff? | |
| 14:19 | caroline | The oldest opened bug is bug 569 ^ |
| 14:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option |
| 14:19 | cait | maybe we shoudl switch to black superlibrarian capes :) |
| 14:19 | oleonard | cait: I got a great deal on candles from this place that handles surplus wedding supplies. |
| 14:19 | cait | lol |
| 14:20 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:21 | hm general meeting tonight | |
| 14:23 | oleonard | We should have taken more pictures at the last ceremony: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15331333447778 |
| 14:24 | cait | lol |
| 14:28 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 14:28 | huginn | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Partly Cloudy :: 95F/35C | Wind Chill: 95F/35C | Heat Index: 95F/35C | Wednesday: Scattered thunderstorms possible. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Low 66F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. |
| 14:28 | * cait | is dying |
| 14:29 | Joubu | @wunder Buenos Aires |
| 14:29 | huginn | Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 48F/9C | Wednesday: Mainly sunny. High 51F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: A clear sky. Low 42F. Winds light and variable. |
| 14:29 | Joubu | feel like it's 5°C! |
| 14:29 | tuxayo | @wunder Marseille |
| 14:29 | huginn | tuxayo: Marseille, France :: Clear :: 97F/36C | Heat Index: 101F/38C | Wednesday: Clear. Lows overnight in the mid 70s. Wednesday Night: Clear skies. Low 76F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. |
| 14:29 | Joubu | outch |
| 14:30 | tuxayo | \o/ |
| 14:33 | Anyway, has anyone heard about BOM (Byte Order Mark) issues? Batch item modification tool can't parse an item number list that starts with a BOM. | |
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| 14:39 | tuxayo | He he, when I throw the same file in as a barcode list, I get "3131" as a first char. |
| 14:39 | So the problem is the non-handling of BOM *and* the ugly error when an itemnumber doesn't match an existing item. | |
| 14:39 | * tuxayo | hopes that the file openning code can easily be changed to handle BOM |
| 15:03 | cait | if i accidentally deleted my master branch.. how woudl i get it back? |
| 15:03 | hm ok i think that worked | |
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| 15:07 | cait | oleonard: are you going to sign off on bug 21137? |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user |
| 15:07 | oleonard | If no one else gets to it first cait |
| 15:07 | cait | i will hold out to qa :) |
| 15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:22 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21133: Fix use statements order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab8d4b6c81e9b5b27> |
| 15:27 | tuxayo | Should I create one bugzilla for {the non-handling of BOM in a tool} and for {error when an itemnumber is invalid is the said tool} ? |
| 15:27 | Kinda linked and kinda independent | |
| 15:27 | cait | i'd file 2 |
| 15:28 | tuxayo | thanks :) |
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| 15:50 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:50 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #519: FIXED in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/519/ |
| 15:51 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #19: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U18/19/ | |
| 15:53 | Joubu | tcohen: ^ it did the job ;) |
| 15:53 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 15:59 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:59 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:59 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #20: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/20/ |
| 16:15 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 16:22 | Joubu | oleonard: bug 21139 |
| 16:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The floating toolbars have some issues |
| 16:23 | Joubu | it will fix the problem you faced on bug 20044 when resizing the window |
| 16:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging |
| 16:46 | cait | working on the one it depends on right now |
| 16:47 | bug 21099 | |
| 16:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21099 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Floating toolbars reposition too late |
| 16:47 | cait | so if signed off could do both together :) |
| 16:59 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:59 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:59 | jenkins | Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #29: FIXED in 21 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/29/ |
| 17:22 | cait | hm should we change the plugin code? |
| 17:23 | oleonard: the bug i am looking at modifies /lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.fixFloat.js | |
| 17:24 | but it looks like we already changed it in the past, bug 18305 for example | |
| 17:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18305 major, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, CLOSED FIXED, jquery.fixFloat.js breaks advanced MARC editor for some browsers |
| 17:24 | oleonard | It's not an independently-maintained plugin |
| 17:25 | cait | can you rephrase that? |
| 17:26 | sorry, don't understand | |
| 17:29 | oleonard | It's not like other plugins which are maintained independently of Koha. |
| 17:30 | cait | ah |
| 17:30 | so I understand it's ok to change :) | |
| 17:31 | oleonard | Yes |
| 17:33 | Joubu: Bug 21139 handles browser width fine as long as the y-axis position of the toolbar isn't affected by the reflow of other elements on the page | |
| 17:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , The floating toolbars have some issues |
| 17:34 | oleonard | I'm not sure if that's easy to handle or not. |
| 17:47 | cait | hope Joubu understands that, because I can't follow :) |
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| 18:02 | Joubu | oleonard: I thought I understood it, but cannot recreate. |
| 18:09 | tuxayo | Question about this Perl snippet `my $content=<$filefh>` |
| 18:09 | is <$foobar> and operation which is a function which gets a ligne from a file handler? | |
| 18:09 | *line | |
| 18:13 | Joubu | oleonard: about bug 20366, did you test the remote branch or the patches on the bug? I do not recreate this one either |
| 18:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , More information about orders linked to subscriptions on "Acquisition details" tab |
| 18:14 | Joubu | tuxayo: yes, should be used with a while, or my @lines = <$f |
| 18:14 | erk | |
| 18:14 | tuxayo: yes, should be used with a while, or my @lines = <$fh> | |
| 18:15 | tuxayo | Indeed that's the case. Thanks :) |
| 18:15 | Joubu | tuxayo: ask google for the "diamond operator" |
| 18:15 | oleonard | Joubu: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15331473066753 |
| 18:15 | (re: 21139) | |
| 18:16 | Joubu | oleonard: ha! I was not testing on this view |
| 18:16 | tuxayo | Joubu: thanks. My difficulty is to convert some symbols to something searchable on the web. Does anyone know something that helps about that? (maybe there aren't that many operators to learn? |
| 18:17 | oleonard | And about 20366, I tested both with the patches and then the remote branch when I worried the patches on the bug weren't up to date. |
| 18:18 | Joubu | the patches are up to date, what did you test exactly? |
| 18:19 | oleonard | Not much...as soon as I tried to view detail.pl I got the error. |
| 18:20 | Joubu | without order placed on the record? |
| 18:22 | oleonard | With and without |
| 18:24 | Joubu | oleonard: any records? |
| 18:26 | oleonard | Apparently |
| 18:26 | wahanui | hmmm... Apparently is vitally important to librarians |
| 18:27 | Joubu | oleonard: 21139 - I do now recreate, the behavior existed prior to the patches. I am not sure how hard it would be to fix it, I suggest to fix it separately :) |
| 18:27 | oleonard | Fine with me. |
| 18:47 | * tuxayo | sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-08-01_18:47:26.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]DMUURMzQEJaayoEJD> |
| 18:55 | Joubu | choose between "500" or "internal server error" (synonym) |
| 18:56 | and copy the exact error in the description | |
| 18:57 | * Joubu | is installing debian 9 on oleonard's laptop |
| 18:57 | Joubu | oleonard: you can recreate the issue now ;) |
| 19:05 | tuxayo | Joubu: thanks! |
| 19:07 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:07 | huginn | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Rain :: 74F/23C | Wind Chill: 74F/23C | Wednesday: Thunderstorms. Lows overnight in the mid 60s. Wednesday Night: Thunderstorms likely this evening. Then the chance of scattered thunderstorms overnight. Low 64F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. |
| 19:07 | cait | RAIN! |
| 19:08 | tuxayo | Thunderstorms, Thunderstorms and scattered thunderstorms |
| 19:08 | Enjoy! | |
| 19:08 | cait | this is so good after today's heat |
| 19:15 | Joubu: still around? | |
| 19:16 | Joubu | yes |
| 19:17 | cait | looking at the USER.. patches |
| 19:17 | why [% IF ( borrower.warndeparture ) %] in opac-user.pl? | |
| 19:19 | sorry bug 21137 | |
| 19:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace BORROWER_INFO and USER_INFO with logged_in_user |
| 19:19 | Joubu | I changed borrower with patron (because it's a Koha::Patron), then I changed USER... with borrower (because it's a hash) |
| 19:19 | it is usually what is done so far | |
| 19:19 | yes it's bad, but we are in transition ;) | |
| 19:20 | all the logic code in opac-user.pl should be removed, but it's out of the scope | |
| 19:20 | cait | just not spotting yet wher eit came from |
| 19:20 | the borrower | |
| 19:20 | wahanui | the borrower is restricted, borrower has no restrictions. |
| 19:21 | Joubu | `git grep 'scalar Koha::Patrons'` |
| 19:21 | cait | becuase you remove - borrower => scalar Koha::Patrons->find($borrowernumber), |
| 19:21 | Joubu | you will find it |
| 19:22 | cait | i only got 3 hit |
| 19:22 | s | |
| 19:22 | none is in opac-user | |
| 19:23 | Joubu | ok sorry, so the Koha::Patron is logged_in_user (sent from C4::Auth) |
| 19:23 | and the $borrower hash which contains the extra info comes from: | |
| 19:23 | 173 borrower => $borr, | |
| 19:24 | cait | ah |
| 19:25 | my $borr = $patron->unblessed; | |
| 19:25 | got you | |
| 19:25 | thx for explaining! | |
| 19:25 | Joubu++ | |
| 19:26 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:39 | cait | @later tell tcohen should column visibility show in the opac items table? |
| 19:39 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:40 | Joubu | cait: Bug 16759: Make OPAC holdings table configurable |
| 19:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Make OPAC holdings table configurable |
| 19:43 | cait | Joubu: yes, but i think we didn't show the config option |
| 19:45 | Joubu | hum yes, looks buggy too |
| 19:45 | cait | we just tested the dev in 17.11 |
| 19:45 | that's why i was surprised | |
| 19:47 | 17.11 doesn't show it | |
| 19:49 | Joubu: something's wrong with the toolbar for me on bug 21139 | |
| 19:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21139 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , The floating toolbars have some issues |
| 19:50 | cait | scroll down, resize window, scroll back up - the toolbar 'unlocks' in the wrong spot |
| 19:52 | with and without hte patches | |
| 19:52 | is that the error you were talking about to fix separately? | |
| 19:53 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen it's bug 7547 |
| 19:53 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:53 | Joubu | cait ^ |
| 19:53 | I commented on the bug | |
| 19:53 | cait | bug 7547 |
| 19:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7547 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Printing a sorted cart |
| 19:54 | cait | thx :) |
| 19:54 | 5 minutes to meeting | |
| 19:54 | Joubu | cait: on which page do you have the "unlock in the wrong spot" problem? |
| 19:54 | cait | get ready everyone! |
| 19:55 | patron edit | |
| 19:55 | see pm for the screenshot | |
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| 19:59 | * cait | waves at davidnind |
| 20:00 | caroline | Nz is waking up! :) |
| 20:00 | bag | ha |
| 20:01 | davidnind | waves... |
| 20:01 | * wahanui | rides the waves| |
| 20:01 | cait | as kidclamp is on vacatoin, who will chair? :) |
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| 20:02 | caroline | wahanui will chair, can't wait to see how that will go |
| 20:02 | wahanui | caroline: what? |
| 20:02 | cait | heh |
| 20:02 | i can do it if noone else wants to | |
| 20:02 | Joubu | cait++ |
| 20:02 | :D | |
| 20:03 | cait | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 1 August 2018 |
| 20:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Aug 1 20:03:10 2018 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 20:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_1_august_2018' |
| 20:03 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 20:03 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 20:03 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:03 | cait | please introduce yourself with #info following wahanui's example |
| 20:03 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_1_August_2018 today's agenda | |
| 20:03 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro |
| 20:03 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 20:03 | tuxayo | caroline: considering it's response, that wouldn't have gone well :P |
| 20:03 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 20:03 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 20:04 | davidnind | #info David Nind, wellington, New Zealand |
| 20:04 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater |
| 20:05 | cait | giving it a minute longer or so |
| 20:05 | MichaelKuhn | #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland |
| 20:05 | cait | tuxayo: ? |
| 20:06 | ok, moving on then | |
| 20:06 | #topic Announcements | |
| 20:06 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:06 | cait | any announcements anyone? |
| 20:07 | ok, moving on | |
| 20:07 | kathryn joined #koha | |
| 20:07 | cait | #topic Update on releases |
| 20:07 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:07 | cait | RMaints? |
| 20:07 | wahanui | RMaints is ashimema (18.05), fridolin (17.11 and 17.05) |
| 20:08 | cait | i don't think anyone is here :) |
| 20:08 | ok, moving on | |
| 20:08 | davidnind1 joined #koha | |
| 20:08 | cait | #topic Encouraging sign-offs/testers |
| 20:08 | Topic for #koha is now Encouraging sign-offs/testers (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:08 | cait | this is from me and i am here.. so: |
| 20:09 | at the moment the QA queue is mostly under control, but we got 66 bugs waiting for sign-off and 245 bugs total | |
| 20:09 | so that's unusual high | |
| 20:09 | on top of that i got feedback from someone who was willing to sign offf, that all sandboxes are broken | |
| 20:10 | that means all 3 providers of sandboxes and no note on the wiki about if it's maintenance or whatever | |
| 20:10 | I've tried, it's at least since last week, maybe longer | |
| 20:10 | georgew joined #koha | |
| 20:11 | cait | #info All sandboxes are currently down. There is no info if this if for maintenance on the wiki. |
| 20:11 | i think none of hte hosters are around, apart from bag maybe? | |
| 20:12 | bag | yeah not sure why our’s are down - we’ll take a look |
| 20:12 | cait | thx bag |
| 20:13 | @action bag to check on status of Bywater's sandboxes | |
| 20:13 | huginn | cait: downloading the Perl source |
| 20:13 | Joubu | they all have a different errors, that's fun |
| 20:13 | cait | #action bag to check on status of Bywater's sandboxes |
| 20:13 | yeah :( | |
| 20:14 | the other question was if we could add a keyword for bugs testable on sandboxes | |
| 20:14 | we use Academy for easy bugs, but sometimes those are related to documentaiton fixes in cronjobs or similar, so not testable | |
| 20:14 | Joubu | or the reverse? |
| 20:14 | caroline | I think it's a good idea from a search point of view |
| 20:15 | Joubu | most of them should be testable on a sandbox |
| 20:15 | cait | currently there is a lot of elastic |
| 20:15 | that's a bit harder as you have to clean indexes etc | |
| 20:15 | so maybe a keyword to mark them could help | |
| 20:16 | could maybe jsut be Sandbox | |
| 20:16 | tuxayo | cait: no really here, sorry. |
| 20:16 | Thanks for the notification :) | |
| 20:16 | Joubu | that would implicitely mean than others are not testable on a sandbox |
| 20:17 | cait | not necessarily |
| 20:17 | we have easy bugs not marked Academy | |
| 20:17 | Joubu | ok |
| 20:18 | cait | it oculd help before events or when someone asks for finding some bugs they could test |
| 20:18 | bag, around? | |
| 20:19 | bag | yes |
| 20:19 | cait | #topic KohaCon18 |
| 20:19 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon18 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:19 | cait | sneaking i another topic for a little update |
| 20:19 | bag | So right now we’re expecting around 150 people maybe a few more |
| 20:19 | The program is set | |
| 20:20 | https://kohacon2018.bywatersol[…]com/schedule.html | |
| 20:20 | We are still seaking sponsors to help with the costs - only 3 pledges so far (and 2 more that said they will commit some funds) | |
| 20:21 | cait | #info Program is set |
| 20:21 | thd | Is there a room sharing board? |
| 20:21 | cait | #link https://kohacon2018.bywatersol[…]com/schedule.html Program |
| 20:21 | #info Still seaking sponsors! | |
| 20:22 | bag | Cultural day will be an optional fun run/walk in the early morning. Then going to the Portland history musuem, lunch, and then to the Japanese Gardens for the afternoon. |
| 20:22 | * thd | will send a message to mailing list about possibly sharing a room |
| 20:22 | bag | Bring ideas for the hackfest (the style will be an unconference) |
| 20:23 | any other questions? | |
| 20:23 | cait | #info Cultural day will be an optional fun run/walk in the early morning. Then going to the Portland history musuem, lunch, and then to the Japanese Gardens for the afternoon. |
| 20:23 | bag | hmm… Don’t know about room sharing board... |
| 20:23 | cait | #info Bring ideas for the hackfest! (style will be an unconference) |
| 20:23 | registrations? :) | |
| 20:24 | bag | what do you mean “registrations”? |
| 20:24 | Joubu | what do you mean "unconference"? :) |
| 20:24 | cait | how many registrations:) just curious |
| 20:25 | bag | ah unconference - no set schedule :) we’ll decide what we’re going to do on the different days of the hackfest. I think that the RM will be a default leader of those days |
| 20:25 | Joubu | yep, excellent |
| 20:25 | bag | we have 188 registered so far - I am expecting so where around 150 to show up |
| 20:25 | davidnind1 | Is there a cutoff date for registrations? |
| 20:26 | bag | no cut off date |
| 20:26 | cait | #info 188 registrations so far - no cutoff for registrations |
| 20:26 | davidnind1 | Thanks! |
| 20:27 | cait | ok, if there aren't anymore questions, we can move on? |
| 20:28 | #topic KohaCon19 | |
| 20:28 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon19 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 1 August 2018) | |
| 20:28 | cait | #info there are 2 bids for KohaCon19 with bidding now officially closed: Dublin and Stockholm |
| 20:29 | so we will have a vote! | |
| 20:29 | is someone willing to organize? I think the last ones were done by drojf, who is not here tonight | |
| 20:30 | caroline | how does it work? |
| 20:30 | cait | i thin the last were done using limesurvey or similar |
| 20:30 | it's supposed to be an online form that people can fill out | |
| 20:31 | caroline | Ok, I guess it's not that complicated, I could try to organize the vote |
| 20:31 | thd | We should not actually vote until late September to avoid missing too many people on holiday. |
| 20:31 | caroline | Do we have a start/end date to the vote? |
| 20:31 | davidnind1 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sses_for_KohaCons |
| 20:31 | Joubu | well yes it is, I think we had issue last time with people voting several times |
| 20:31 | cait | ah thx perfect davidnind |
| 20:31 | was just looking for that page | |
| 20:31 | davidnind++ | |
| 20:31 | Joubu | so it should be hosted to remove duplicates |
| 20:32 | caroline | cool thanks davidnind1 |
| 20:33 | Joubu | apparently we did not host it last time, there is "How to minimise potential issues: " section |
| 20:33 | cait | #action caroline to organize the vote |
| 20:33 | thd | As there are only two options we do not have to worry about the complexities of the methodology for counting ranked votes. |
| 20:34 | bag | yeah probably have it that you can only choose one |
| 20:34 | cait | choose your preferrd |
| 20:34 | * caroline | adds organize voting on her todo |
| 20:34 | cait | as both locations are in europe, they are kind of close :) |
| 20:35 | when should the vote finish? | |
| 20:35 | bag | Sept 30th? |
| 20:35 | thd | A sophisticated survey might try to catch some null option where people are voting without a real preference but we should avoid the complexity required to account for such voting. |
| 20:35 | cait | both proposals are between may and june |
| 20:36 | davidnind1 | Two great looking options, thanks to the bidders for putting in the time and effort! |
| 20:36 | cait | stockholm++ dublin++ :) |
| 20:36 | davidnind1 | And taking on the challenge! |
| 20:36 | cait | september 30th sounds good to me |
| 20:36 | caroline: you think it's ok? | |
| 20:36 | we should have a few weeks for voting to catch the people on vacation | |
| 20:37 | caroline | Well, I'm going to need a bit of time to get to know limesurvey and have it installed here |
| 20:37 | thd | How the choices should be ordered should be considered. There is probably some advantage to whomever appears first on the ballot. |
| 20:37 | cait | with 2 options? |
| 20:37 | i think we should not overcomplicate | |
| 20:37 | caroline | I'm going to give it a month and a half after it's up |
| 20:37 | is that ok? | |
| 20:37 | thd | Even with 2 options the first option probably has some advantage. |
| 20:37 | cait | fine by me, i think 4 weeks would be good too |
| 20:38 | bag | thd: do you always vote for the first option? |
| 20:38 | georgew | Limesurvey allows you to randomize question order |
| 20:38 | thd | ... that actually goes to the point of some people not having a strong prefernce. |
| 20:38 | caroline | ok so between 4-6 weeks |
| 20:38 | randomize the questions and ask for name, email, institution | |
| 20:38 | thd | bag: No, I always vote for the least popular option ;) |
| 20:38 | bag | georgew++ |
| 20:39 | cait | georgew: thx :) |
| 20:39 | caroline | anything else I'm missing? |
| 20:39 | cait | does that also cover the otpions in the questions? |
| 20:39 | georgew | Yes, I believe it does |
| 20:39 | cait | cool |
| 20:39 | caroline++ | |
| 20:40 | if there is nothing else, i am moving toward ending the meeting | |
| 20:40 | when shall we meet next? | |
| 20:40 | august 5? | |
| 20:41 | 13 utc? | |
| 20:41 | thd | Randomised question order could help if limesurvey can do that. |
| 20:41 | davidnind1 | Date and time ok to me! |
| 20:42 | thd | Aug? |
| 20:42 | or Sep.? | |
| 20:42 | cait | sorry september |
| 20:42 | first wednesday | |
| 20:43 | joubu can you help me out with the formatting? | |
| 20:43 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 5 September 2018, 13 UTC |
| 20:43 | that? | |
| 20:43 | wahanui | that is still relevant |
| 20:43 | cait | thx |
| 20:43 | #endmeeting | |
| 20:43 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 20:43 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Aug 1 20:43:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 20:43 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-08-01-20.03.html | |
| 20:43 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-08-01-20.03.txt | |
| 20:43 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]01-20.03.log.html | |
| 20:43 | cait | thx all! |
| 20:43 | davidnind1 | cait++ |
| 20:43 | bag | cait++ |
| 20:44 | One last point - very exctied to see y’all in Portland for KohaCon18!!! should be THE fun! | |
| 20:45 | cait | :D |
| 20:45 | davidnind1 | Looking forward to it - my first KohaCon in real life! |
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| 20:48 | cait | looking forward to meet you! |
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| 20:52 | ashimema | Balls... Too late |
| 20:52 | cait | hehe |
| 20:52 | ashimema | I blame vacation brain.. got my days totally muddled.. apologies for missing it |
| 20:52 | cait | you missed me being grumpy about the sandboxes |
| 20:55 | caroline | Good news! We already have Limesurvey installed |
| 20:56 | cait | :) |
| 20:57 | ashimema | Those are also on my list |
| 20:59 | rangi | morning |
| 21:00 | caroline | Hello rangi ! |
| 21:00 | ashimema | Lol, someone's out of office just stretchedy German a bit.. |
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| 21:26 | tcohen | hi |
| 21:26 | cait: yes | |
| 21:27 | cait | ashimema: oh? |
| 21:34 | ashimema | My German is bad.. it was nice to have an excuse to try and remind myself 😉 |
| 21:36 | cait | tcohen: hm? |
| 21:37 | tcohen | nevermind? |
| 21:37 | he | |
| 21:37 | I missed the meeting! | |
| 21:39 | cait | you are not alone |
| 21:40 | caroline | bye all! |
| 22:16 | cait | Joubu: is bug 20044 correct in FQA with your follow-up? |
| 22:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging |
| 22:17 | Joubu | I am waiting for Owen to test |
| 22:17 | cait | ok |
| 22:39 | @later tell khall forgot if I sent you a later already, looks like your dev env is misconfigured: John Doe <youexample.com> |
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| 22:39 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:40 | cait | @seen khall |
| 22:40 | huginn | cait: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, and 45 seconds ago: <khall> yes, I think we should. I'll go ahead and submit a squashed patch set to bugzilla |
| 23:22 | cait | @later tell oleonard could you maybe take another look at bug 20312? I was not sure about the look and the Javascript |
| 23:22 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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