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| 07:13 | JesseDhammu | hi |
| 07:15 | I recently upgraded my entire system and the revised koha verison im using is 18.05.00.000, but unlike my previous installation, the newer version does not have any option to show barcode in OPAC details page. This is exteremly essensial for our library, can anyone help in restoring the setting, so that my users can see the item barcode in opac details display screen under normal view. | |
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| 07:23 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:36 | cait | JesseDhammu: it was just moved |
| 07:36 | look in administration > columns configuration | |
| 07:43 | JesseDhammu | cait: You've always been helping Champ. thanks. fount it and worked.. |
| 07:43 | *Found it and worked... | |
| 07:49 | cait | cool, you are welcome |
| 07:50 | moved and improved :) | |
| 07:51 | JesseDhammu | yeah, it looks like |
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| 09:00 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #63: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/63/ |
| 09:00 | * martin.renvoize: Bug 20906: Prevent test failures due to precision changes | |
| 09:00 | * martin.renvoize: Bug 20906: Prevent test failures due to stricter perl | |
| 09:00 | * martin.renvoize: Bug 20906: Prevent test failures due to precision changes (2) | |
| 09:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20906 major, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Fix Debian 9 Test Failures |
| 09:00 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20906: Fix translatable-templates.t |
| 09:00 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 20951: add missing use Koha::Patron::Debarments in | |
| 09:00 | * pasi.kallinen: Bug 20881: Order receiving: Price filter missing on_editing | |
| 09:00 | * katrin.fischer: Bug 20794: Hide holds tab on details when user lacks | |
| 09:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20951 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Pushed to Stable , Koha::Patron::Discharge is missing use Koha::Patron::Debarments |
| 09:00 | jenkins | * m.de.rooy: Bug 20702: Add unit tests for GetHostItemsInfo |
| 09:00 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 20702: Bind results of GetHostItemsInfo to the EasyAnalyticalRecords | |
| 09:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20881 normal, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Stable , Order receiving: Price filter missing on_editing |
| 09:00 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20794 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Don't show holds tab when user doesn't have circulate_remaining_permissions | |
| 09:00 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20702 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Bind results of GetHostItemsInfo to the EasyAnalyticalRecords pref | |
| 09:00 | * fridolin | likes SUCCESS |
| 09:01 | fridolin | and strong coffee |
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| 09:01 | fridolin | thanks ashimema for you work on 18.05 its nice to do it little by little |
| 09:23 | tcohen | morning |
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| 09:33 | tcohen | cait: thanks |
| 09:34 | ashimema1 | pleasure fridolin.. the main bit of advice I got given coming into this from everyone I spoke to was 'Keep up with the RM and don't pile up the updates' :).. I'm taking that advice seriously :) |
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| 09:46 | cait | tbh it was alwys my advice but i didn't always manage myself... so ashimema++ :) |
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| 11:54 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:55 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:58 | oleonard | Working on this some more today: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15301338390205 |
| 11:59 | calire | oleonard, looks nice! |
| 11:59 | cait | quite a change :) |
| 12:01 | oleonard | calire: I also made sure Bug 20554 still applies... Just in case... |
| 12:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Needs Signoff , New OPAC CSS |
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| 12:12 | AndrewIsh | Hey all - is there any particular reason why Bugzilla doesn't have a "Plugins" component when creating a bug? Obviously plugins themselves won't be appearing in Bugzilla, but plugin hook additions, and modifications to the core Plugin object will do. Does anyone fancy creating a component for them, if not, what component should I use for such a bug? |
| 12:13 | ashimema1 | there's a core/infrastucter or someting like that category that I'e used for such things to date. |
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| 12:43 | nlegrand | Hey #koha |
| 12:44 | So we did it, we switch to 18.05 with ES :) | |
| 12:44 | cait | swicched already? |
| 12:44 | nlegrand | cait: yup! |
| 12:44 | cait | .01 i hope? |
| 12:45 | nlegrand | cait: it's still a bit patchy but it's already better :) |
| 12:45 | ashimema1 | := |
| 12:45 | +1 | |
| 12:46 | nlegrand | cait: well most of 18.05.x till last week, didn't have the time to rebase all to tag .01 |
| 12:46 | cait | nlegrand: there were some bigger issues fixed, maybe peek at the release notes at least |
| 12:46 | if you have item level itypes the worst shoul dnot hit you | |
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| 12:48 | nlegrand | cait: frankly, we've done worse :) |
| 12:49 | cait | keep us updated about elastic? :) |
| 12:49 | lots of things in the works currently | |
| 12:49 | nlegrand | the only things that surprised me is ES yelling deprecation messages all the time. He's not doing the same thing on my test instance. |
| 12:50 | cait: ho we find books now, it's the main new thing ^^ | |
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| 13:01 | caroline | Hello! |
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| 13:07 | oleonard | AndrewIsh: I think rangi manages Bugzilla and could add a new component |
| 13:07 | Too slow. | |
| 13:07 | @later tell AndrewIsh I think rangi manages Bugzilla and could add a new component | |
| 13:07 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:14 | cait | maybe plugin system could be a new component |
| 13:14 | AndrewIsh ashimema | |
| 13:14 | ashimema1 | :) |
| 13:14 | cait | i'd just ask rangi to add it |
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| 13:15 | AndrewIsh | Thanks cait & oleonard :) |
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| 13:17 | AndrewIsh | Thanks cait & oleonard |
| 13:17 | Joubu | oleonard: on bug 20559 you remove CSS related to autocomplete (.ui-autocomplete, etc.), is it expected? |
| 13:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20559 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Occurrences of loading-small.gif still exist |
| 13:17 | AndrewIsh | rangi: Any chance you could add a "Plugins" component on Bugzilla please :) |
| 13:17 | Joubu | AndrewIsh: I can add it, but not sure it makes sense to have it |
| 13:18 | oleonard | Joubu: I believe that there is no place where it is used. |
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| 13:18 | Joubu | oleonard: `git grep -l ui-autocomplete`, yes it is |
| 13:18 | AndrewIsh | Joubu: How so. Adding plugin hooks into core happens as required, for example Bug 20968 |
| 13:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Plugins: Add hooks to enable plugin integration into catalogue |
| 13:19 | oleonard | Joubu: In the opac? |
| 13:19 | AndrewIsh | Potentially anywhere |
| 13:19 | Joubu | oleonard: haaaaaaa :) |
| 13:21 | tcohen, khall: would it make sense to you to have a "Plugins" component in bugzilla? | |
| 13:22 | AndrewIsh | Ignore my last message, I was misunderstanding who it was from/to ;-) |
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| 13:23 | Joubu | AndrewIsh: are you still submitting patches with tabs?!? |
| 13:23 | * oleonard | burns AndrewIsh in effigy |
| 13:23 | tcohen | Joubu: it could be just 'internals', right? people might think they should file bugs for plugins in there |
| 13:23 | AndrewIsh | Joubu: I would hope not! Unless my Vim is playing games with me.... |
| 13:23 | tcohen | 'Plugin support' |
| 13:24 | 'Plugin subsystem' | |
| 13:24 | * oleonard | douses the effigy |
| 13:25 | ashimema1 | 'Plugin subsystem' +1 |
| 13:25 | * Joubu | joins oleonard for the ceremony |
| 13:25 | AndrewIsh | Joubu: I see what you mean though, there's something funky going on with the indenting on those patches :( |
| 13:25 | * AndrewIsh | suggests oleonard reignites the effigy... |
| 13:25 | Joubu | AndrewIsh: first patch of 20968 is full of tabs ;) |
| 13:26 | AndrewIsh | Joubu: Indeed, arghhhh, I'll fix |
| 13:27 | * AndrewIsh | fixes his Vim with a hard stare... |
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| 13:32 | cait | do we still fix internal server errors for missing itemtypes in items? |
| 13:32 | AndrewIsh | 'Plugin support' makes more sense to me since you're adding "support" for "plugins" |
| 13:32 | cait | you get native speaker bonus anyway :) |
| 13:34 | Joubu | "support" could be misunderstood, but if people agrees I can create it |
| 13:34 | cait | or asked differently: shoudl i file a bug if a checkout withiut itemtype makes the summary print explode? |
| 13:35 | yeah plugin support might be understood as 'the support for existing plugins' | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | cait: Nothing should ever explode. |
| 13:35 | tcohen | Plugin subsystem |
| 13:35 | cait | as soon as bugzilla lets me i will file a bug then |
| 13:36 | Joubu | oleonard: wrong assertion |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Some things should explode, but not in Koha. |
| 13:36 | cait | if we don't want people to add items without itemtype |
| 13:36 | Joubu | few years ago Koha never exploded, even when it should |
| 13:37 | cait | can we then please finally repair the mandatory behavior on the item form? |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Everything should explode all the time. |
| 13:37 | I'm out of ideas. | |
| 13:37 | cait | because it's broken and that's bad |
| 13:37 | Joubu | when something is wrong it's better to explode than to suggest everything went ok |
| 13:38 | cait: mandatory behavior on the item form? | |
| 13:38 | cait | if you makr a subfield with a pull down mandatory |
| 13:38 | it kills the 'empty' option | |
| 13:38 | which means it just randomly selects the firt itemtype | |
| 13:38 | or a default you selected if lucky | |
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| 13:39 | cait | that makes it quite error prone |
| 13:39 | because you will never trigger a mandatory alert - it is never empty | |
| 13:39 | but it might not be the itemtype you wanted to have | |
| 13:39 | it shoud have an empty option and trigger you to set one | |
| 13:39 | if you tr to save without filling the field, like it does for free text input | |
| 13:40 | so most of our libraries don't use mandatory... because empty itemtypes are easier to find with a report than the ones you might have accidentally set to some value | |
| 13:40 | oleonard | Where in the database do we store which messaging preferences a patron has selected? |
| 13:40 | cait | oleonard: that's complicated |
| 13:40 | oleonard | :( |
| 13:41 | cait | bug 14662 |
| 13:41 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14662 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add empty entry to pull down when subfield is mandatory and linked to authorized value |
| 13:41 | Joubu | not that much, it's in borrower_message_preferences |
| 13:42 | cait | but then you have to step backwards to see which message it is |
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| 13:42 | Joubu | yes, it's a join table |
| 13:43 | cait | so from borrower_message_preferences you get the message_attribute_id |
| 13:43 | Joubu | and there is another one for the transport type, in borrower_message_transport_preferences |
| 13:43 | cait | and can use that for message_attributes |
| 13:43 | so see which message | |
| 13:43 | oleonard | I would expect that if a patron had no messaging preferences selected there would be no rows in borrower_message_preferences for that borrowernumber |
| 13:43 | That is not the case. | |
| 13:44 | cait | no it always adds and updates them all |
| 13:44 | not one line | |
| 13:44 | you need to see if there is something in transports too i think | |
| 13:44 | that's why it's complicated | |
| 13:44 | what is your questio, i might have an sql stored? | |
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| 13:45 | cait | but basically you need to check borrower_message_transport_preferences for if it's on or not |
| 13:46 | oleonard | I'd like to know which patrons are "subscribed" to a particular message. |
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| 13:50 | cait | oleonard: let me check if i got something |
| 13:52 | oleonard | I found this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]erences_by_branch |
| 13:52 | (thanks barton) | |
| 13:53 | cait | i got a "student accounts that don't receive hold messages' |
| 13:53 | http://paste.koha-community.org/11 | |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Same as https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ages_but_no_email ? |
| 13:56 | cait | not quite, that loosk for ones where the hold checkbox was not checked |
| 13:56 | so the library could then go through them and add it | |
| 13:56 | ah similar | |
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| 14:00 | barton | oleonard: thanks for reminding me of that report -- I think that I put it up on the reports library largely because once I figured it out once, I never wanted to have to figure it out again... I find the relaitonship between message_attributes and message_transports to be rather brain-bending. |
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| 14:04 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "barton: I don't understand this output" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/12 |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Is borrower 2 subscribed to that notice or not? |
| 14:06 | Joubu | cait: I was referring earlier to the thread "Expected behaviour if itemtype does not exist" on koha-devel |
| 14:06 | """My question was: If an item is defined with a items.itype (or biblioitems.itemtype) that is not an entry in the itemtypes table, is it considered as a configuration issue? | |
| 14:06 | If yes, I will write a script to catch them, add something to the about page and the update database process. | |
| 14:06 | If not, we will have to handle that case everywhere in the code.""" | |
| 14:07 | barton | yes, borrower 2 is subscribed via email, phone and sms. |
| 14:09 | oleonard | barton: That's not what the patron detail page says |
| 14:12 | barton | hm. |
| 14:12 | Joubu | the SQL is wrong |
| 14:13 | maybe not | |
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| 14:34 | oleonard | Why do my holds always come in to the library on days I'm not there? |
| 14:34 | * oleonard | is working from home today |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Joubu: I cannot reproduce your button problem with Bug 20959. Could you double-check that it's not a cache problem? |
| 14:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Style checkin form more like the checkout form, with collapsed settings panel |
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| 14:40 | Joubu | oleonard: it's not |
| 14:42 | oleonard: my input is much wider than yours | |
| 14:42 | I see .barcode { font-size: 200% } in the dev tools | |
| 14:43 | If I disable it it looks like on your screenshot | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | The font size is correct |
| 14:49 | Joubu: But you're right, the form fields in your screenshot are wider than I see | |
| 14:50 | Joubu | oleonard: I see the same with FF and Chromium |
| 14:50 | * oleonard | too :P |
| 15:01 | Joubu | oleonard: http://pro.user02-koha.sandbox[…]a/circ/returns.pl |
| 15:03 | how do you see it on neutral ground? | |
| 15:05 | oleonard | I see it the way it's supposed to look |
| 15:06 | http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.[…]?p=15301983857200 | |
| 15:10 | Joubu | oleonard: I do not, what's your screen resolution? |
| 15:11 | test in a private window | |
| 15:12 | tcohen: how do you see it? | |
| 15:12 | oleonard | My screen is 2560x1440, and the position of the submit button doesn't change based on browser width |
| 15:14 | Joubu | weird |
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| 15:29 | oleonard | Joubu, josef_moravec: Bug 20935 updated, thanks for testing |
| 15:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Redesign system preferences interface |
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| 15:49 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:33 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi everyone! |
| 16:34 | Yesterday when trying to install the lastest version of Koha I happened to get this: https://snag.gy/8Y6Pnr.jpg | |
| 16:35 | Wonder what problems I can Get from it and how to solve it | |
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| 16:42 | Joubu | Freddy_Enrique: edit your koha-conf.xml file and replace the value of memcached_servers |
| 16:42 | it should not be __MEMCACHED_SERVERS__ but certainly 127.0.0.1:11211 | |
| 16:43 | Freddy_Enrique | that number instead of __MEMCACHED_SERVERS__. Got it! :) |
| 16:44 | One last question. Should I configure the SSL before or after koha installation? | |
| 16:44 | Joubu | it's not a "number", it's IP:PORT |
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| 16:44 | Freddy_Enrique | Oh... my bad. Ok |
| 16:44 | Joubu | are you talking about letsentrypt? |
| 16:45 | there is a --letsencrypt flag to provide to koha-create when you create the instance | |
| 16:49 | Freddy_Enrique | really??????? |
| 16:49 | wait.... that is not in the manual | |
| 16:50 | yes, I've been looking for ways to get the https but nothing so far | |
| 16:50 | Ive read That I could use cerbot | |
| 16:50 | but that is configured in the apache files, not the app per se | |
| 16:51 | SO, there's a way to make it simple? | |
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| 17:35 | ashimema1 | 'man koha-create' Freddy_Enrique |
| 17:38 | Freddy_Enrique | :ashimema1 Hi, uhm... I failed to understand that line. Where could I get it? |
| 17:40 | Found it: sudo koha-create --create-db library | |
| 17:41 | so, the line should say... sudo man koha-create --create-db library --letsencrypt? | |
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| 18:27 | ashimema1 | No.. man is standard Unix command for manual.. ie run it against a command to see that commands instructions |
| 18:40 | Freddy_Enrique | Omg! it was a command all a long... https://snag.gy/q26OXR.jpg |
| 18:40 | thanks Ashimema1 | |
| 18:41 | I get it know! koha-create --letsencrypt | |
| 18:42 | Joubu++ | |
| 18:42 | ashimema1++ | |
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| 19:58 | rangi | hmmm whats teh plugin component for? |
| 19:58 | cos, plugins aren't part of koha, that's kinda the point | |
| 20:00 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
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| 20:00 | oleonard | I think it's for bugs related to Koha's support for plugins |
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| 20:00 | oleonard | But I don't think anyone settled on a way to make it clear |
| 20:01 | rangi | yeah i feel like if you call it plugins you end up with a bunch of bugs about the plugins |
| 20:02 | id put it under Architecture, internals and plumbing | |
| 20:02 | (bugs about the plugin infrastructure that is) | |
| 20:04 | oleonard: off topic but did you see https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]oposals#Arrivals_.26_Departures | |
| 20:04 | oleonard | I did, thanks. I've got my hotel booked but not my flight so I'd better get on that. |
| 20:05 | rangi | yep :) |
| 20:06 | oleonard | If all else fails I can always leave myself 36 hours for the drive |
| 20:06 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:06 | im trying to remember where i flew into when i came to athens, i think columbus | |
| 20:07 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:08 | rangi | will you get to stay for the whole conf + hackfest? |
| 20:09 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:09 | rangi | yay!! |
| 20:09 | oleonard | Yeah, can't wait! |
| 20:09 | rangi | I promise not to waste one of nates cigars this time round! |
| 20:14 | oleonard | See y'all later |
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| 21:13 | caroline | in OPAC, if I have two items in one record, one of which is withdrawn, and my opachiddenitems syspref says not to show withdrawn items, is the results list supposed to show 1 available and 1 withdrawn? |
| 21:14 | If I click on the record I only see my one available, though, which is what I expect | |
| 21:14 | but I'm confused about the results list availability... | |
| 21:17 | https://snag.gy/pF5VcG.jpg | |
| 21:22 | cait | it should not show the withdrwan |
| 21:22 | i think it sounds like a bug | |
| 21:23 | in my opinion - but never checked it closely, not sure if it's new behaviour or not | |
| 21:25 | caroline | So if opachiddenitems says to hide, not only the item should be hidden from the record, but the availability should also be hidden from the results lists |
| 21:25 | That's what you would expect too, cait? | |
| 21:25 | cait | yep |
| 21:25 | caroline | okidoo |
| 21:25 | cait | because now numbers don't add up |
| 21:25 | seems definitely confusing | |
| 21:26 | caroline | well, the numbers never add up when using opachiddenitems, but this is more obvious |
| 21:26 | cait | true |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | I don't think it'll be cigars you're smoking in portland :P |
| 21:28 | rangi | heh, edibles |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | you can't smoke a brownie |
| 21:35 | or, seems like a waste of a brownie. | |
| 21:36 | rangi | oh there's way more than brownies |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | ^.^ noted edible treat known to be one of many edible treats, example only |
| 21:37 | rangi | it's all all tinctures, and drinks, and chocolate bars etc in portland, brownies are not hipster enough |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | Artisinal Toast Edibles |
| 21:37 | rangi | i bet there are donuts |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | with Very Fancy Butter. |
| 21:38 | rangi | hehe yeah |
| 22:04 | caroline | good night everyone! |
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| 22:07 | wizzyrea | indicative edible treat, not necessarily exclusive. |
| 22:08 | there we go. | |
| 22:08 | rangi | heh |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | sometimes your brain won't leave a concept until you get the words right >.> |
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