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06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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06:39 | alex_a | bonjour |
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06:52 | ashimema | Good Morning #koha |
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07:17 | cait | @later tell Joubu we had problems in patron search with following characters: non-printable, double quotes, backslash, and \x11 according to the migration scripts that we adapted with each problem found |
07:17 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
07:34 | ashimema | @seen matts |
07:34 | huginn` | ashimema: matts was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 2 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <matts> ^^ |
07:35 | matts | hi |
07:35 | ashimema | anyone using CAS authentication along with LDAP as a fallback in combination? |
07:36 | matts | Hmm, don't think we have used this combination. |
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07:36 | ashimema | had a feeling not |
07:36 | I just had an interesting regression come to light and I think it'll affect CAS too | |
07:37 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:37 | ashimema | bug 20879 |
07:37 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20879 major, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Shibboleth matchpoint no longer works after upgrade to 17.11 |
07:37 | ashimema | if your interested matts |
07:38 | matts | Sure, I'll have a look at it. |
07:39 | ashimema | I'm not entirely sure how/when the regression came in... but it's a combination of how LDAP now returns and the explicit local fallback logic |
07:40 | seems we now don't fallback through each available mechanism the same way we used to.. the fix for shib was simple enough.. I 'think' it's likely the same thing for CAS | |
07:40 | i.e. make sure you have 'ticket' but don't have $password present | |
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09:27 | tuxayo | Hi #koha o/ :) |
09:29 | Does anyone know if it's possible to the touch to the translation system without blowing everything up? ^^" (to prevent it from eating CDATA section in HTML/XML) bug 8937 | |
09:29 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8937 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Translation process removes CDATA in HTML |
09:29 | cait | congrats bywater! https://librarytechnology.org/pr/23559 |
09:40 | tuxayo | bywater++ |
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09:51 | kidclamp | ahsimema: same thing? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20943 |
09:51 | huginn` | Bug 20943: normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Cannot enable shibboleth and LDAP at the same time |
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10:02 | ashimema | oh.. yes |
10:02 | I hadn't seen that one.. | |
10:02 | when did it apepar | |
10:03 | lol | |
10:03 | I just renamed the original bug to almost match yours so we didn't end up with a dupe.. but neglected to check whether one had happend in the interim | |
10:04 | kidclamp | :-) your number is lower, so I think the mistake is mine |
10:05 | ashimema | well until just now the title of my bug is entirely different |
10:05 | so I don't blame you for missing it ;) | |
10:05 | I've just marked yours as a dupe as I've posted a patch to the other one | |
10:05 | :) | |
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10:06 | kidclamp | testing it now |
10:07 | ashimema | :) |
10:07 | there's some crazy logic in LDAP now btw.. | |
10:07 | I had some real fun testing it after an upgrade for a customer a few days ago | |
10:08 | did you know if you set 'auth_by_bind' and also 'user' and 'password' that the user and password login is never used now. | |
10:09 | but.. if you don't set user and password.. you end up doing an anon bind then search which is completely different logic and a such often completely fail auth | |
10:09 | the logic in that module is really really hard to follow | |
10:10 | kidclamp | yes, we found that out a while back, we define user and pass even when not used now |
10:11 | ashimema | yeah.. me too after running around in circles numerious times the other day |
10:11 | ldap flows are evil | |
10:12 | kidclamp | it needs an overhaul , but I don't want to touch Auth, I have enough Acq patches to keep me happy |
10:12 | ashimema | haha |
10:12 | I've been promising an Auth overhaul for years | |
10:12 | but never had the time to devote to it. | |
10:13 | kidclamp | let's devote the first day of hackfest this year to building time turners |
10:18 | ashimema | lol |
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11:28 | ashimema | OK.. want some thoughts devs |
11:30 | do you guys think it's simpler to understand chaining search methods or having more parameters in a single method? | |
11:30 | this is in relation to Koha::Objects.. | |
11:31 | kidclamp | can you give an example? |
11:31 | ashimema | example `->filter_for_x({last_seen => DateTime, expired_before => DateTime});` |
11:32 | where last_seen and expired_before are both optional | |
11:32 | or `->last_seen(DateTime)->expired_befor(DateTime);` | |
11:32 | you could even have both sets | |
11:33 | where ->filter_for_x internally just chained | |
11:34 | it sorta relates to my comments on bug 17168 | |
11:34 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add a command line script for updating patron category based on status |
11:34 | ashimema | I'll submit some alternatives on bug 11983 |
11:35 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11983 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , code to select patrons to purge needs to be centralized |
11:35 | kidclamp | I think I like params better, but chaining may be easier to read (until it becomes a long chain) |
11:35 | is there any perf bonus either way? | |
11:36 | ashimema | nope |
11:36 | hmm.. suppose the params might be very slightly more performant | |
11:36 | as chaining means invoking DBIx::Classes merge functions | |
11:39 | I reckon the final option I came up with makes the most sense from a DRY perspective | |
11:40 | else people will end up nearly duplicating allot of routines.. for example `search_patrons_for_delete`, `search_patrons_for_anonymize`, `search_patrons_for_category_change`.. | |
11:41 | that'salready all of subs that do very nearly the same thing | |
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11:58 | fridolin | hi thre |
11:58 | * fridolin | in the hot summer of Marseille |
12:02 | ashimema | next question |
12:04 | `->issued_since(DateTime)` and `not_issued_since(DateTime)` methods or `->last_issued(since => DateTime)` and `last_issued(before => DateTime)` | |
12:05 | * ashimema | likes to promote internal api discussion |
12:07 | kidclamp | the latter I think, because I want to do last_issued({after => $yore, before => $recent}); |
12:07 | but kidclamp is not always right | |
12:07 | khall^ | |
12:07 | ashimema | oh.. I hadn't even thought about that combination.. cool |
12:07 | that could be easy enough to include | |
12:08 | in which case you'd want it as a hashref rather than fat array too | |
12:08 | for clarity | |
12:08 | kidclamp | indeed |
12:08 | ashimema | do we already have any coding guidlines on that.. the whole fat array vs hashref as params? |
12:09 | kidclamp | I think we prefer hashrefs |
12:09 | ashimema | we encourage hashref generally now don't we |
12:09 | kidclamp | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]used_as_arguments |
12:10 | ashimema | cheers :) |
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12:14 | Joubu | hi #koha |
12:15 | ashimema: ->last_seen(DateTime) reads like a setter, not a filter | |
12:16 | ashimema | true.. suppose all methods like that could be prepended with `filter_by_` or something along those lines |
12:16 | though that rapidly grows the method names | |
12:19 | tuxayo | Can a QAer check bug 15395 and tell what is the next step to move it forward? I would be happy to help there instead of working on issues that are caused by the current translation system. |
12:19 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more |
12:24 | Joubu | tuxayo: it's on my list |
12:30 | tuxayo | Joubu :D |
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12:35 | oleonard | Hi all |
12:50 | tcohen | morning |
12:51 | cait | good morning tcohen |
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13:05 | gaetan_B | hello |
13:05 | re | |
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13:11 | oleonard | Oh hi kidclamp have you heard the good news about bug 19474? |
13:11 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Convert staff client CSS to SCSS |
13:11 | oleonard | ;) |
13:12 | kidclamp | hmm? what? no, I have never heard of this |
13:12 | :-b | |
13:15 | * oleonard | fires up his PowerPoint, unfolds his tri-fold display, cues the dance troupe |
13:20 | tcohen | \o/ |
13:21 | oleonard | \\o \o\ \o/ /o/ o// |
13:34 | kidclamp | thanks oleonard |
13:36 | cait | :) |
13:36 | koha++ | |
13:36 | love staged import | |
13:36 | and the diff view | |
13:40 | matts around? | |
13:41 | matts | cait, around indeed |
13:41 | cait | :) |
13:41 | * oleonard | waves to matts |
13:41 | cait | i think i can't push to github - is a patch file ok? |
13:41 | matts | hi oleonard :) |
13:41 | cait, perfectly fine, yes | |
13:41 | cait | ok, working on it now |
13:41 | should hopefully not take too long :) | |
13:47 | matts: % over must be a number. give me an error in poedit because of the % - any advice? | |
13:49 | matts | cait, poedit didn't yell at me when editing the FR file. |
13:49 | cait | strange |
13:49 | also not seeing the tab descriptions | |
13:49 | should they be in resources? | |
13:49 | only had a very few strings in resources and usage (which is nice, but wondering) | |
13:51 | matts | cait, % should be escaped as %% for gettext. I think this is reason why poedit complains. |
13:51 | cait | ok, will take a look at the file |
13:53 | just the tab thing unclear now | |
13:53 | you said the file woudl be amended or something? | |
13:53 | matts | cait, yes, I added the missing msgid at the end of the file |
13:53 | cait | hmm strange |
13:53 | poedit didn't find them | |
13:54 | matts | see lines 3734 to 3744 |
13:54 | cait | checking now |
13:54 | resources, right? | |
13:54 | matts | RIGHT |
13:54 | cait | *hides* |
13:54 | matts | oops, i meant "right" |
13:54 | :) | |
13:55 | cait | ah i see some, but not all |
13:55 | for example looking for 'aquisitions | |
13:55 | matts | cait, that's because the others are already picked-up by gettext and translated before in the file. |
13:56 | cait | hm odd |
13:56 | in our system they are all in English with the current files | |
13:56 | 3 beta | |
13:56 | matts | see line 1117 |
13:56 | msgid "Acquisitions" | |
13:56 | msgstr "Erwerbung" | |
13:56 | cait | yeah, but it isn't picked up |
13:57 | in our coral 3 all tabs are untranslated | |
13:57 | matts | did you restart apache/php ? Some translation cache occurs. |
13:57 | cait | i can#t test - my dev coral is broken |
13:57 | just hoping it will work | |
13:57 | shoudl i create all .mo? even for the files where no strings changed? | |
13:57 | matts | cait, I can check for you and ping if something went wrong |
13:57 | cait | that would be really nice |
13:58 | matts | you can create all the mo. Won't hurt. |
13:58 | cait | ok, doing that, thatn committing :) |
14:00 | then... | |
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14:06 | cait | matts: sent! |
14:09 | @wunder Konstanz | |
14:09 | huginn` | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 84F/29C | Wind Chill: 84F/29C | Heat Index: 84F/29C | Thursday: Mainly cloudy. A few peeks of sunshine possible. High near 85F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Thursday Night: Evening clouds will give way to clearing overnight. Low 49F. Winds N at 10 to 15 mph. |
14:09 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
14:09 | huginn` | oleonard: Athens, OH :: Overcast :: 71F/22C | Thursday: Cloudy early, then thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High 77F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 100%. Thursday Night: Thunderstorms likely this evening. Then the chance of scattered thunderstorms overnight. Low 67F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 100%. |
14:09 | cait | it feels a lot warmer |
14:20 | matts | cait, got it. How would you translate "Orders" ? |
14:21 | cait | Bestellungen |
14:23 | matts | cait, ok, it was missing, I'll add it and we're good to go ! |
14:24 | * matts | gotta practice his german. Going to Germany this week-end |
14:24 | cait | ah cool, where to? |
14:25 | thx for checking, wonder how i'd missed that - brain is overheating | |
14:25 | eythian | oh yeah, I'm going next month too. |
14:25 | cait | :) |
14:25 | and who si visiting me? | |
14:25 | eythian | Not me, I'm going to Koeln. |
14:26 | matts | cait, not far from my place, Freiburg im Breisgau, Baden-Württemberg. |
14:26 | Lovely city | |
14:26 | cait | ah nice :) |
14:26 | they have a shiny university library | |
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14:42 | tcohen | hi matts |
14:43 | matts | hi tcohen |
15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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15:04 | lavamind | tcohen: if you want to discuss my project with Koha, I'm available |
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15:13 | Rokoh | Hi everybody i'm new koha i made recently an installation on my lab server and i have difficulty with LDAP authentification with an Active Directory on 2008 server, someone already do that ? or have a conf file for check my conf please |
15:27 | oleonard | Sorry Rokoh I guess there's no one around who knows about that |
15:28 | ashimema | who should I ask about getting a field added to bugzilla.. I think it would be great to have a 'koha-manual update request' field to add a link to the associated gitlab koha-manual merge request for bugs |
15:29 | this'll be the third one I've added to a comment in a bug.. comments are lost too easily ;) | |
15:29 | cait1 | ashimema: we use keyword: manual or documentation i think |
15:29 | and docs team has a taiga | |
15:30 | maybe talk to Leej when he is back? I think he will be back beginning of July | |
15:30 | bye #koha | |
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15:31 | Rokoh | thank's oleonard i keep searching in manual and forums :) |
15:33 | ashimema | cheers cait1 |
15:39 | confused.. how are the images working in the manual | |
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15:44 | Joubu | do you have a specific question? |
15:45 | ashimema: images are listed in source/images.rst | |
15:46 | ashimema | mm.. |
15:47 | ok | |
15:48 | Joubu | yes, it's not perfect. We should use meaningful codes to use from .rst |
15:48 | ashimema | wow.. so we map an image1234 to a full path.. |
15:48 | Joubu | I guess it comes from the migration from docbook |
15:48 | ashimema | thanks for the hint anyways |
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15:48 | ashimema | mmm |
15:49 | I imagine so | |
15:50 | barton | hey all, Bywater keeps a glossary of koha related terms, I figured that it would probably be useful for the community, so I put it here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary |
15:50 | ashimema | so there's no real reason not to just use the ..image directive directly? |
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16:00 | oleonard | cool, barton, thanks |
16:01 | barton | glossary is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary |
16:01 | glossary? | |
16:01 | wahanui | i heard glossary was https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary |
16:01 | barton | forget glossary |
16:01 | wahanui | barton: I forgot glossary |
16:02 | barton | glossary is <reply> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary |
16:02 | glossary? | |
16:02 | wahanui | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Glossary |
16:02 | barton | there we go. |
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17:21 | caroline | hello all! |
17:21 | wahanui | hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term |
17:22 | caroline | um? |
17:28 | oleonard | wahanui: Forget hello all! |
17:28 | wahanui | oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all |
17:28 | oleonard | wahanui: Forget hello all\! |
17:28 | wahanui | oleonard, I didn't have anything matching hello all\ |
17:29 | oleonard | It's forever. |
17:29 | Joubu | forget hello all |
17:30 | wahanui: forget hello all | |
17:30 | wahanui | Joubu, I didn't have anything matching hello all |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: forget "hello all!" |
17:30 | wahanui | Joubu, I didn't have anything matching "hello all!" |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: hello all? |
17:30 | wahanui | joubu: i haven't a clue |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: hello all!? |
17:30 | wahanui | it has been said that hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: forget hello all! |
17:30 | wahanui | Joubu, I didn't have anything matching hello all |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: stupid bot |
17:30 | wahanui | rumour has it stupid bot is :( |
17:30 | Joubu | wahanui: forget 'hello all!' |
17:30 | wahanui | Joubu, I didn't have anything matching 'hello all!' |
17:33 | caroline | guys, I'll just not greet with "hello all", don't agonize over wahanui |
17:33 | oleonard | hello all!!! |
17:35 | cait | forget reply hello all! |
17:36 | wahanui forget reply it has been said that hello all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term | |
17:36 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching reply it has been said o all! is there a way of linking the authorities in koha? link 550$a to 001 or control no.? linking done by adding 550$0 of the term |
17:36 | cait | wahanui forget reply hello all |
17:36 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching reply hello all |
17:36 | cait | eythian: ? |
17:36 | well, 154 days until next koha release... no time to rest! | |
17:37 | caroline | you guys remind me of a scene in "IT Crowd" where the boss constantly yell "hello computer" at his computer |
17:38 | eythian | wahanui: forget hello all\! |
17:38 | wahanui | eythian, I didn't have anything matching hello all\ |
17:38 | eythian | I need my computer for this |
17:38 | caroline | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyV0IVItlM4 |
17:39 | eythian | It might be impossible |
17:40 | hello all! =~ s/!/#/ | |
17:40 | wahanui: hello all! =~ s/!/#/ | |
17:40 | wahanui | That doesn't contain '!', eythian |
17:41 | eythian | hmm |
17:41 | I don't think it's possible | |
17:42 | cait | we broke wahanui |
17:42 | oleonard | wahanui broke us. |
17:42 | wahanui | oleonard: sorry... |
17:43 | eythian | wahanui has never really had it all together |
17:43 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
17:43 | eythian | wahanui: you heard me |
17:43 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
17:45 | eythian | whoever wahanui's caretaker is these days can modify the database. |
17:52 | cait | ashimema: did you figure out how ot add images? |
17:52 | i can help | |
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17:59 | oleonard | Hm, when did we get column visibility on opac-details.pl? I just noticed it. |
18:16 | Bug 7547, better late than never. | |
18:16 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7547 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , printing a sorted cart |
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18:59 | oleonard | Bye all |
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