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| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:35 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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| 06:57 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:27 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #57: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/57/ |
| 07:27 | * magnus: Bug 20546: Display shelving location on checkin | |
| 07:27 | * kyle: Bug 18821: TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer | |
| 07:27 | * kyle: Bug 18821: Convert to using cache with date checking | |
| 07:27 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20546 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Shelving location not displayed on checkin |
| 07:27 | jenkins | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18821: (QA follow-up) Last tweaks for performance |
| 07:27 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer |
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| 07:41 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 09:11 | eythian | hi |
| 09:11 | ashimema | ho |
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| 11:43 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:54 | ncbaratta | howdy oleonard :) |
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| 11:57 | oleonard | Hi ncbaratta, I enjoyed seeing your conference tweets recently |
| 11:58 | ncbaratta | Thanks!! I haven't been going to as many conferences lately :) and when I do I always seem to be working the ChickTech booth |
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| 12:13 | ashimema | ooh.. we moved master to testing against D9.. I thought we were going to test both |
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| 12:48 | oleonard | Are we still having simultaneous dev and documentation meetings today? |
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| 12:53 | Joubu | oleonard: we will do one after the other ;) |
| 12:57 | oleonard: If CircSidebar is set and you hit /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl, you will get "ReferenceError: $ is not defined" | |
| 12:58 | oleonard | I'm sorry. |
| 12:58 | Joubu | I have not idea how to fix it simply and cleanly, I am going to open a bug report ;) |
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| 13:01 | tuxayo | kivilahtio around? |
| 13:02 | Joubu | bug 20931 |
| 13:02 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , JS error "ReferenceError: $ is not defined" when CircSidebar is turned on |
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| 13:12 | kivilahtio | tuxayo: fortunately |
| 13:17 | ashimema | tcohen++ |
| 13:19 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:19 | * ashimema | will be late to the meetings.. collides with school run. |
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| 13:39 | Freddy_Enrique | Good morning everyone |
| 13:40 | oleonard | Hi Freddy_Enrique |
| 13:42 | Freddy_Enrique | One quick question... there in the US people like soccer? here are making me nuts for the world tournament |
| 13:44 | the other question, a more serious one.. how is it possible for me to include a slider like the one shown here? : https://snag.gy/SRbJ8V.jpg | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: Yes there are people in the US who like soccer, there just aren't as many as like American football, baseball, and basketball. |
| 13:46 | Freddy_Enrique | do I need to change some config files or just do all the work in the opac-main user/css in the intranet? |
| 13:46 | I see :) | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | The slider is probably build on a JavaScript widget, maybe a jquery plugin. It's probably a combination of HTML (in OpacMainUserBlock), CSS (in OpacUserCSS) and JavaScript (in OpacUserJS) |
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| 13:47 | Freddy_Enrique | oh.... |
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| 13:47 | Freddy_Enrique | Can you find some code like that to download or one should build it from scratch? |
| 13:48 | uhm...I get it now. Java :( | |
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| 13:49 | oleonard | Not Java, JavaScript. |
| 13:49 | tuxayo | kivilahtio: can I take bug 12586 :) |
| 13:49 | Thanks a lot for having done most of the work on this! | |
| 13:49 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12586 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Record matching rules - Required match checks doesn't work with MARCXML |
| 13:49 | tuxayo | I'll try to rebase, write an automated test, and help the bug to make it through the process. |
| 13:49 | Freddy_Enrique | Sorry, my bad. Thanks Oleonard :) |
| 13:50 | kivilahtio | tuxayo: wow. Thank you so much for asking. Please help yourself! |
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| 13:50 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 13:50 | kivilahtio | tuxayo: I think the latest version is available in our github |
| 13:51 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 13:51 | Joubu: around? | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/[…]ascript/#carousel |
| 13:51 | Joubu | LeeJ: yes |
| 13:51 | kivilahtio | tuxayo: https://github.com/KohaSuomi/K[…]ble/C4/Matcher.pm |
| 13:52 | Freddy_Enrique | time for a little playground :3 |
| 13:52 | oleonard++ | |
| 13:52 | kivilahtio | tuxayo: that is running in production and is prolly the most best version I know of that feature |
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| 13:55 | oleonard | Freddy_Enrique: The carousel widget JS is already included in the OPAC, so no additional JS required |
| 13:55 | LeeJ | anyone who's here for the docs meeting..docs will begin its meeting immediately following the dev meeting :) |
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| 13:59 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 13:59 | * LeeJ | waves to kidclamp |
| 14:00 | kidclamp | Are we running meetings at same time? |
| 14:00 | one emeting to cover docs and dev? | |
| 14:00 | LeeJ | kidclamp: docs can start after dev |
| 14:00 | kidclamp | kk |
| 14:00 | LeeJ | :) |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018 |
| 14:01 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 14:01:23 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:01 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_june_2018' |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:01 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
| 14:02 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 14:02 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici, Czech Republic |
| 14:03 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:03 | kidclamp | Anybody |
| 14:03 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:03 | LeeJ | docs will be having a meeting immediately following this dev meeting :) |
| 14:04 | kidclamp: have there been any 18.11 pushes to master done yet? or still getting set up? | |
| 14:04 | kidclamp | #topic Update from the Release manager (18.11) |
| 14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (18.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:04 | Joubu | we should send a what's on in koha-devel email this month. If you want to contribute, it's there https://annuel2.framapad.org/p[…]_on_in_koha-devel |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | still pushing bugs for one more week, then will begin with the queue next friday |
| 14:05 | #info RM is pushing bugs for one more week, will begin on enhancements next friday | |
| 14:05 | LeeJ | kidclamp: okay thanks..so the docs meeting will be brief :) |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | thanks Joubu |
| 14:06 | LeeJ there is a note on the merging deleted tables for docs | |
| 14:06 | bug 20271 | |
| 14:06 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Passed QA , Merge deleted* tables with their "alive" cousins |
| 14:06 | LeeJ | kidclamp: hm? |
| 14:06 | oh dear...alright | |
| 14:07 | * lavamind | waves |
| 14:07 | LeeJ | kidclamp: thanks...I'll have to read it in-depth later |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | oleonard, is there a write up on the wiki for dev/testing process after SCSS patches are pushed? |
| 14:08 | if not, can there be? | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]staff_client_SCSS |
| 14:08 | I can add a section specifically for testers | |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | oleonard++ |
| 14:09 | that's all I have for now, I am going to push all I can to leave time for testing | |
| 14:09 | Mana, ES stuffs, other big things please QA sooner rather than later :-) | |
| 14:09 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 14:09 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | RMaints? |
| 14:10 | wahanui | somebody said RMaints was kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) |
| 14:10 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | wahanui RMaints is ashimema (18.05), fridolin (17.11 and 17.05) |
| 14:10 | wahanui | ...but rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11)... |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | wahanui RMaints is ashimema (18.05), fridolin (17.11 and 17.05) |
| 14:10 | wahanui | ...but rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11)... |
| 14:10 | Joubu | no wahanui, RMaints is ashimema (18.05), fridolin (17.11 and 17.05) |
| 14:10 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | thanks joubu |
| 14:11 | fridolin? | |
| 14:11 | wahanui | i guess fridolin is that guy with the great hair |
| 14:11 | fridolin | evrything is ok for 17.11.07 release |
| 14:11 | nothing special | |
| 14:12 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe |
| 14:12 | kidclamp | it has been mentioned we may want to relase 18.05.01 early? ashimema? |
| 14:13 | lavamind | iirc Joubu mentioned 18.05 was unfit for prod |
| 14:14 | ashimema | I've been waiting for the bugfixes to slow down before making a decision on early release.. felt like there were still bits coming in at more than a tricle pace |
| 14:15 | as I said.. I'm open to opinions on that but to date I've only had one person suggest a need to get it out sooner than 22nd | |
| 14:15 | Joubu | there are still some that are not pushed to 18.05.x |
| 14:15 | ashimema | indeed |
| 14:15 | Joubu | bug 20918, bug 20899 , bug 20832 should be part of 18.05.01 |
| 14:15 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20918 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , left-side navigation broken on the checkout history page |
| 14:15 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20899 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Patron name not showing on issuehistory.pl | |
| 14:15 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20832 critical, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Passed QA , Opac user page crash when there is an overdue fine and not any rental charge for a patron | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | We'll stick to 22nd as per the norm I think.. get as many solid fixes in as possible rather than setting a precident to release early with some fixes missing |
| 14:16 | kidclamp | #info 18.05.01 will stick to release on 22nd to get as many fixes as possible |
| 14:16 | soudns good to me | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | 20832 was one that particular caught my attention ;) |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | I will push bugs today or tomorrw |
| 14:17 | to give you time | |
| 14:17 | * ashimema | goes on school run to presence will be intermitten for the next 30 mins |
| 14:17 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:17 | kidclamp | moving on |
| 14:17 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 14:17 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:18 | kidclamp | QA team? |
| 14:18 | wahanui | QA team is hunting all the bugs! |
| 14:18 | Joubu | qa_team? |
| 14:18 | wahanui | qa_team is probably alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec |
| 14:18 | Joubu | and few more now |
| 14:19 | kidclamp | no wahanui qa_teamis jajm marcelr josef_moravec alex_a ashimema tcohen khall Joubu rangi |
| 14:19 | no wahanui qa_team is jajm marcelr josef_moravec alex_a ashimema tcohen khall Joubu rangi | |
| 14:19 | wahanui | okay, kidclamp. |
| 14:19 | Joubu | I'd like QA on bug 19817 and bug 20287, they should be pushed early in the release cycle |
| 14:19 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations |
| 14:19 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Move AddMember and ModMember to Koha::Patron | |
| 14:20 | Joubu | bug 20271 is PQA, I think we should get another stamp on it |
| 14:20 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Passed QA , Merge deleted* tables with their "alive" cousins |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | #info bugs 19817 and 20287, please QA for early pushing to allow thorough testing |
| 14:20 | Joubu | and also know if someone is going to work on other tables (issues, reserves, etc.) for this release |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | Joubu, doesn't it touch them all? |
| 14:21 | oh, it changed | |
| 14:22 | Joubu | ha, maybe it has changed since I took a look |
| 14:22 | kidclamp | no, it was all, then it wasn't again |
| 14:22 | yes, issues and reserves are the most problematic | |
| 14:22 | Joubu | I have just looked at the update db entry this morning |
| 14:22 | and it's scary | |
| 14:23 | INSERT IGNORE INTO items ( | |
| 14:23 | + SELECT *, timestamp AS deleted_on FROM deleteditems | |
| 14:23 | + WHERE biblioitemnumber IN (SELECT biblioitemnumber FROM biblioitems) | |
| 14:23 | + AND homebranch IN (SELECT homebranch FROM branches) | |
| 14:23 | + AND holdingbranch IN (SELECT holdingbranch FROM branches) | |
| 14:23 | + AND biblionumber IN (SELECT biblionumber FROM biblio) | |
| 14:23 | not sure how this will behave on very big DB, that needs to be checked/confirmed before pushed | |
| 14:24 | kidclamp | will test against some dbs before pushing |
| 14:24 | #info bug 20271 could use a second (or third) pair of eyes as it is a big (but necessary) change | |
| 14:25 | anything else Joubu?> | |
| 14:25 | Joubu | nope |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:25 | Joubu | (well, it's no longer a necessary change ;)) |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | #topic Accounts API: Vote the RFC |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now Accounts API: Vote the RFC (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:27 | thd | I note the question about manager_id vs something more familiar. |
| 14:28 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ines_endpoint_RFC Accountlines endpoint RFC |
| 14:28 | ashimema | The accounts RFC looks solid to me. |
| 14:29 | LeeJ | looks good to me as well |
| 14:29 | thd | Is the reason for manager_id to use accounting terms as distinct from Koha nomenclature? |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | thd: I think vote can proceed with note to consider the naming for tcohen |
| 14:29 | I am not sure why 'manager_id' | |
| 14:30 | Joubu | kidclamp: heh, I was going to ask the same! |
| 14:30 | to me it's confusing | |
| 14:30 | ashimema | What term would you prefer? |
| 14:30 | thd | It may be the term which proper accountants expect. |
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| 14:31 | Joubu | and cait asked the same on the wiki page |
| 14:32 | kidclamp | for the api he specifies 'user_id' which is more in line |
| 14:32 | so I think he took the comment into account | |
| 14:32 | ashimema | Staff_id would suit me |
| 14:32 | Grr, autocorrect | |
| 14:33 | josef_moravec | both terms proposed by Katrin are OK for me... |
| 14:33 | ashimema | Hmm, user_id feels too generic to me |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | vote on user_id vs staff_id then vote on rfc with that change? |
| 14:34 | ashimema | There are two users in this call.. so having role there makes sense |
| 14:34 | thd | Yes, actually if it was for accountants then the api term would be manager so manager is still confusing. |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | user_id vs patron_id |
| 14:35 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:36 | kidclamp | going to call a vote for the manager id field |
| 14:36 | thd | I think we should wait for clarification from the author of the API. |
| 14:37 | kidclamp | tcohen said he is happy to go with what is wanted |
| 14:37 | thd | OK |
| 14:38 | patron_id is a distinct and separate role. | |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | #startvote Should manager_id in the accountlines endpoint be referred to as staff_id, user_id, or manager_id? staff_id, user_id, manager_id |
| 14:38 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Should manager_id in the accountlines endpoint be referred to as staff_id, user_id, or manager_id? Valid vote options are staff_id, user_id, manager_id. |
| 14:38 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:38 | kidclamp | #vote user_id |
| 14:38 | LeeJ | #vote user_id |
| 14:39 | khall | #vote user_id |
| 14:39 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]unds_endpoint_RFC |
| 14:39 | thd | #vote staff_id |
| 14:40 | Joubu | #vote member_id |
| 14:40 | huginn` | Joubu: member_id is not a valid option. Valid options are staff_id, user_id, manager_id. |
| 14:40 | Joubu | :D |
| 14:40 | LeeJ | lol |
| 14:40 | ashimema | #vote staff_id |
| 14:40 | thd | #vote staff_id # for the DB |
| 14:40 | huginn` | thd: staff_id # for the DB is not a valid option. Valid options are staff_id, user_id, manager_id. |
| 14:40 | Joubu | #vote staff_id |
| 14:40 | thd | Is the vote about the DB or the API? |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | the api |
| 14:41 | i think we are tied, someone around to help us? | |
| 14:41 | josef_moravec | #vote staff_id |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | josef_moravec++ |
| 14:41 | last call | |
| 14:41 | ashimema | We can't easily change the db can we? |
| 14:41 | Joubu | it's not so important, we just need to stay consistent with other endpoints |
| 14:42 | thd | The original question was about the DB column manager_id with API key user_id . |
| 14:42 | kidclamp | #endvote |
| 14:42 | huginn` | Voted on "Should manager_id in the accountlines endpoint be referred to as staff_id, user_id, or manager_id?" Results are |
| 14:42 | staff_id (4): Joubu, ashimema, thd, josef_moravec | |
| 14:42 | user_id (3): kidclamp, LeeJ, khall | |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | #info staff_id is preferred for API access to manager_id in the db |
| 14:43 | thd | My vote was intended to be for the DB column name. |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | did you want to change your vote thd? |
| 14:44 | thd | I am still not clear what the vote is for DB column or API key? |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | the API |
| 14:44 | Joubu | maybe we do not care? |
| 14:44 | thd | ... or both |
| 14:44 | Joubu | really, who *really* cares? |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | we do not planj to alter the db, is much messier |
| 14:45 | thd | Is the db column not new? |
| 14:45 | maybe not. | |
| 14:45 | kidclamp | no, this is just conversing on API endpoints for existing database tables |
| 14:45 | calling for vote on the RFC | |
| 14:46 | thd | I will leave my vote |
| 14:46 | kidclamp | #startvote Should we accept the accountlines endpoint RFC with adjustment for manager_id -> staff_id? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:46 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Should we accept the accountlines endpoint RFC with adjustment for manager_id -> staff_id? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 14:46 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
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| 14:46 | kidclamp | #vote Yes |
| 14:46 | Joubu | let's say the RFC is flexible and will be adjusted depending on further needs/discussions? |
| 14:47 | kidclamp | #info the RFC is flexible and will be adjusted depending on further needs/discussions |
| 14:47 | josef_moravec | #vote Yes |
| 14:47 | thd | Joubu++ |
| 14:47 | josef_moravec | Joubu++ |
| 14:47 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 14:47 | kidclamp | yes, just voting on enough consensus for work to proceed |
| 14:48 | LeeJ | #vote Yes |
| 14:48 | thd | I would have preferred to have a rationale from tcohen. |
| 14:49 | khall | #Yes |
| 14:49 | #vote Yes | |
| 14:49 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 14:49 | kidclamp | last call |
| 14:50 | you can still discuss with him later thd | |
| 14:50 | #endvote | |
| 14:50 | huginn` | Voted on "Should we accept the accountlines endpoint RFC with adjustment for manager_id -> staff_id?" Results are |
| 14:50 | Yes (6): Joubu, josef_moravec, khall, kidclamp, thd, LeeJ | |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | #info Accountlines RFC endpoint is accepted |
| 14:50 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 14:50 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | #topic Add a new coding guideline about maintaining the cookie documentation, see: Use of Cookies |
| 14:51 | Topic for #koha is now Add a new coding guideline about maintaining the cookie documentation, see: Use of Cookies (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Use_of_Cookies Use of cookies |
| 14:51 | thd | I meant that I would have preferred a rationale from the author before voting but the suggestion has been that he did not have a strong rationale and as Joubu rightly stated we can revisit the issue if it has a consequence. |
| 14:53 | s/has been/has been implied indirectly/ | |
| 14:54 | kidclamp | cookies seems to be gdpr consideration? anyone know who added or has opinion? |
| 14:54 | oleonard | Okay, so cookies... |
| 14:55 | LeeJ | kidclamp: should the cookies page be referenced somewhere in the manual considering the gravity of GDPR? |
| 14:56 | kidclamp | it can't hurt, or can refer to that page |
| 14:57 | I think asking devs to update docs for cookie expiration time sounds fair | |
| 14:57 | just need someone to word it to vote | |
| 14:57 | LeeJ | sounds good! I'll mark it down for the docs meeting to mention it/create a task |
| 14:58 | * Joubu | thinks Koha should have a page with developper's name and postal address to let librarians send them cookies |
| 14:59 | * LeeJ | agrees with Joubu's idea |
| 14:59 | eythian | that's what the cookie law was about eg |
| 14:59 | *eh | |
| 14:59 | kidclamp | Joubu++ |
| 14:59 | Joubu, you added the note, you want to propose a guideline to vote on? or next meeting? | |
| 14:59 | (at 1 hr) | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | did I?? |
| 15:00 | josef_moravec | I think it was Katrin ;) |
| 15:01 | thd | Koha Coding Guidelines to be changed to incorporate cookies use and expiration as described in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Use_of_Cookies with the Koha Manual to incorporate a reference to the same policy as an element in GDPR compliance, Yes or No? |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | ah, I misread |
| 15:02 | Joubu | why do we need to vote on that? Submit a patch and we are done |
| 15:02 | thd | Joubu++ |
| 15:02 | kidclamp | the vote is on adding a guideline to ask devs to maintain that page |
| 15:03 | thd | we need an #info at least. |
| 15:03 | Joubu | ho right, so let's vote yes |
| 15:04 | LeeJ | I'm wondering if there should be a dedicated section in the manual titled something like "GDPR Compliance" if we're going to be continually updating/changing things for compliance purposes |
| 15:04 | Joubu | (we need 2 version columns (from-to), if we remove them) |
| 15:04 | kidclamp | #startvote Should a codign guidline be added to require devs to maintin documentation on cookie use/expiration as required by GDPR and maintained on the wiki page Use of Cookies? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 15:04 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Should a codign guidline be added to require devs to maintin documentation on cookie use/expiration as required by GDPR and maintained on the wiki page Use of Cookies? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 15:04 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 15:04 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 15:04 | kidclamp | #vote Yes |
| 15:04 | oleonard | #vote yes |
| 15:04 | khall | #vote Yes |
| 15:04 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 15:05 | LeeJ | #vote Yes |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | last call |
| 15:05 | Joubu | it could also be added to the release notes (like syspref, notice templates, permissions, etc.) |
| 15:05 | thd | Joubu++ |
| 15:05 | kidclamp | #endvote |
| 15:05 | huginn` | Voted on "Should a codign guidline be added to require devs to maintin documentation on cookie use/expiration as required by GDPR and maintained on the wiki page Use of Cookies?" Results are |
| 15:05 | Yes (6): Joubu, oleonard, khall, kidclamp, thd, LeeJ | |
| 15:06 | kidclamp | #info agred, we shoudl add a coding guideline to maintain cookie documentation |
| 15:06 | #info Joubu suggests also adding notes about cookies/gdpr to release notes | |
| 15:06 | #action cait, please write a codign guideline for cookies | |
| 15:07 | Next meeting June 27th, 21 UTC? | |
| 15:08 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:08 | thd | The more place people may see references to specific elements of GDPR compliance release notes, etc. as Joubu stated the safer people should be at present from any overzealous enforcement. |
| 15:08 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting: 27 June 2018, 21 UTC |
| 15:09 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:09 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:09 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 15:09:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:09 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-13-14.01.html | |
| 15:09 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-06-13-14.01.txt | |
| 15:09 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-14.01.log.html | |
| 15:09 | kidclamp | thanks all! |
| 15:09 | koha++ | |
| 15:09 | josef_moravec | kidclamp++ |
| 15:10 | Joubu | LeeJ: your turn |
| 15:10 | LeeJ | I'll be starting the docs meeting in a few minutes..helping someone for a sec :) |
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| 15:11 | LeeJ | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018 |
| 15:11 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Jun 13 15:11:48 2018 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:11 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:11 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 15:11 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_13_june_2018' |
| 15:12 | * ashimema | is back.. but on child care duties so still intermittent |
| 15:12 | LeeJ | #topic Introductions |
| 15:12 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 15:12 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 15:12 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
| 15:12 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe |
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| 15:13 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 15:14 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 15:14 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:15 | LeeJ | #topic What's been done so far |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 15:15 | LeeJ | #info the docs group has been adding tasks to the koha manual Taiga as necessary to prepare for documenting 18.11 |
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| 15:16 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec |
| 15:16 | LeeJ | #info kidclamp will begin tackling the RM queue beginning Friday June 22, 2018 |
| 15:17 | kidclamp | ;-) |
| 15:17 | ashimema | kidclamp++ |
| 15:18 | LeeJ | #topic Next steps |
| 15:18 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 15:18 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:18 | LeeJ | #info there is a note on the merging deleted tables for docs (Bug 20271) per kidclamp which will need to be addressed in the documentation |
| 15:18 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Passed QA , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables with their "alive" cousins |
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| 15:19 | LeeJ | anyone have anything else to add? ashimema anything about your work to add? :) |
| 15:19 | oh! I just remembered something else to add | |
| 15:20 | #info will be discussing the inclusion of a "GDPR Compliance" section of the manual with a minimum content of adding links to the appropriate wiki pages (i.e. the use of cookies https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Use_of_Cookies) | |
| 15:20 | Joubu | LeeJ: you got a PR, with a schema |
| 15:21 | ashimema | I was going to create a branch to merge for the above then submit it with the WIP flag until the bug is pushed to master |
| 15:21 | LeeJ | Joubu: that will be addressed soon but not right now..I'll explain more later |
| 15:21 | ashimema: a branch for what exactly? | |
| 15:22 | ashimema | Bug_20271 |
| 15:23 | LeeJ | okay |
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| 15:23 | tcohen | hi |
| 15:24 | LeeJ | #info ashimema will be creating a WIP branch on the manual to handle Bug 20271 |
| 15:24 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 major, P1 - high, ---, oha, Passed QA , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables with their "alive" cousins |
| 15:24 | ashimema | Anyone else been having issues with gitlab the last few days out of interest? That's what's held me up on submitting it already |
| 15:24 | LeeJ | tcohen: I can't end meeting you today because we're in the docs meeting :( |
| 15:24 | ashimema: not me | |
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| 15:24 | tcohen | yeah, I love the situation actually |
| 15:24 | haha | |
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| 15:26 | LeeJ | anyone have anything else to add before scheduling next meeting? |
| 15:26 | kidclamp | LeeJ is the best |
| 15:27 | except for me of course ;-) | |
| 15:27 | LeeJ | kidclamp: agreed ;) |
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| 15:28 | LeeJ | guess we're good |
| 15:28 | Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:29 | Joubu | wait |
| 15:29 | I'd like to know why nobody cares about bug 19817 | |
| 15:29 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations |
| 15:29 | Joubu | but really, why? |
| 15:30 | LeeJ | Joubu: I'll make sure no one contributes anything until that's taken care of :) |
| 15:30 | including myself | |
| 15:30 | * ashimema | just hasn't got that far down his list yet Joubu |
| 15:30 | tuxayo | kivilahtio: great! Do you think that the test plan changes a lot? |
| 15:31 | LeeJ | ashimema: put it at the top of your list? <3 |
| 15:31 | Joubu | Next meeting on July 4th then? |
| 15:32 | LeeJ | I just wrote the bug # on my whiteboard in my office so I can work on it and not forget |
| 15:32 | ashimema | It's very nearly there already 😉 |
| 15:32 | LeeJ | I won't be at work on July 4th because it's a holiday :) |
| 15:34 | July 13th 21:00? | |
| 15:34 | Joubu | nope, general meeting |
| 15:34 | ha it's at 14 | |
| 15:35 | LeeJ | so that would work then? |
| 15:35 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:36 | LeeJ | cool |
| 15:36 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:36 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 13 June 2018) | |
| 15:37 | LeeJ | #info Next meeting: 13 July 2018, 21 UTC |
| 15:37 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:37 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:37 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 15:37:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:37 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-06-13-15.11.html | |
| 15:37 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-06-13-15.11.txt | |
| 15:37 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]13-15.11.log.html | |
| 15:37 | LeeJ | thanks for coming out everyone :) |
| 15:41 | Joubu | Friday 21UTC? |
| 15:41 | it was 11th actually | |
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| 15:45 | thd | LeeJ: Joubu is correct. You may have mistakenly typed 13 July without enough attention given when 11 July was intended. |
| 15:45 | LeeJ | ugh |
| 15:46 | >_> | |
| 15:46 | * LeeJ | needs to start checking his typing in quadruplicate |
| 15:47 | thd | LeeJ you could have an administrative typo correction meeting just now. |
| 15:47 | LeeJ | thd: hm? |
| 15:47 | do tell | |
| 15:48 | thd | Just do startmeeting etc. and fix the date for the next meeting, link the additional log to the wiki, send an email correcting the error to the relevant lists. |
| 15:50 | Most anyone who was here 10 minutes ago is still here also. | |
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| 16:00 | Tim_A | Does anyone know if it's possible or even how to modify item search results fields? |
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| 16:05 | dani | |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Bug 20935 |
| 16:22 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20935 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Redesign system preferences interface |
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| 16:26 | cait | t |
| 16:35 | Joubu | bug 20934 needed for 18.05.01 |
| 16:35 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20934 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Biblio checkout history shows only current checkout |
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| 18:49 | Laura__MCC_ | I am in need of some serials help |
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| 18:52 | oleonard | Laura__MCC_: Ask a specific question so people can reply if they know the answer |
| 18:53 | Laura__MCC_ | So I am trying to enter Library Journal that comes out on the 1 and 15 for instance I added as a semimonthly and the dates added were 1 and 16 can this be changed in the subscription or is there a better way to do this? |
| 18:55 | Question 2 - what are the implications of not entering an end date? | |
| 18:58 | Question 3: I have been told by EBSCO that they did not have a way to do claims with Koha. Have individuals figured out a work around? | |
| 18:59 | * oleonard | waves goodbye and wishes Laura__MCC_ luck |
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| 20:12 | zenkit | hi does anyone recommend installing koha on a VM environment |
| 20:12 | ? | |
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| 20:25 | lavamind | zenkit: I run 120 instances in a VM environment :P |
| 20:26 | zenkit | :) Thanks lavamind |
| 20:27 | lavamind | I have a problem where both the opac and intranet base URLs (https://example.com/) return a 404 error |
| 20:31 | I can still login and use the site | |
| 20:32 | Joubu | lavamind: hum? |
| 20:33 | lavamind | "GET / HTTP/1.1" 404 |
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| 20:33 | lavamind | but "GET /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 |
| 20:33 | * lavamind | checks rewrite configs |
| 20:36 | lavamind | aah, I'm missing mod_dir |
| 20:37 | apache-shared.conf could use a "DirectoryIndex index.html" directive | |
| 20:38 | yeah, because index.html is aliased to the correct cgi script | |
| 20:39 | but nothing in the Koha configs define index.html as a directory index | |
| 20:40 | mod_dir and DierctoryIndex index.html are usually default configurations | |
| 20:41 | * lavamind | is finding out many things using a ground-up setup< |
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| 21:35 | lavamind | I'd be interested to learn how I can minimize memory usage with Plack |
| 21:35 | 200MB per instance is too much | |
| 21:45 | is it possible to example only load a part ok Koha (OPAC) into plack ? | |
| 21:48 | Joubu | lavamind: in the psgi file, remove some "use" statements (?) |
| 21:49 | lavamind | Joubu: yeah I tried that, the effect is very small |
| 21:50 | oh I did it with mount | |
| 21:50 | zenkit | What is the minimum RAM requirement to reflect memcache speed? |
| 21:53 | lavamind | I commented out all use C4:: and use Koha:: and now it uses more memory :s |
| 22:03 | I think it's way too tricky, I just wont use Plack at all | |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | 120 instances on one server? |
| 22:08 | plack might be heavy for that. | |
| 22:10 | lavamind | it's heavy even for 10 instances |
| 22:10 | same with the indexer daemon | |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | the indexer you can go around if you're happy to use the cron |
| 22:11 | lavamind | not so happy to use cron no, because running it doesn't even have time to index all the instances within 5 minutes |
| 22:11 | I used to have it every 15 minutes, and it worked but the machine just kept grinding days and night | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | offload zebra to a different server? |
| 22:12 | lavamind | so eventually I enabled apache access logs and had the cron only trigger when there was activity |
| 22:12 | most the instances are seldom used | |
| 22:12 | they're just there for classes and assignments | |
| 22:13 | instead of watching apache access logs Ill try watching the zebraqueue table using the commandline and trigerring the reindex as needed | |
| 22:14 | having 120 rebuild_index.pl in memory is too heavy | |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | possibly having 120 koha on one machine is too many. |
| 22:15 | lavamind | heh, that's my Koha 3.02 setup :p |
| 22:15 | just upgrading it to 18.05 | |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | but koha 3.02 is like 10 years old. |
| 22:15 | rangi | lavamind: you can disable the indexer, and go bak to the cron job for rebuild zebra |
| 22:15 | lavamind | hence the upgrade |
| 22:16 | rangi: */10 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra $(find /var/log/koha -mmin -10 -name intranet-access.log | cut -f5 -d/) | |
| 22:16 | rangi | the indexer runs as a daemon, so much more realtime, but if you switch that off, and put the cron job back in, and just say you might have to wait up to 15 mins for your change to show in search |
| 22:16 | yep | |
| 22:18 | lavamind | maybe there's a way to run multiple instances using one Plack daemon |
| 22:18 | rangi | thats all good as no other jobs (like other crons) change values |
| 22:18 | as long as i mean | |
| 22:19 | like long overdues cron job that makes stuff lost | |
| 22:19 | but it'll get index after someone looks at koha i guess ;) | |
| 22:19 | lavamind | as far as I know the classes they teach don't use OPAC services at all |
| 22:19 | rangi | there is a bug for that,and some patches you could try |
| 22:20 | i forget the bug number | |
| 22:20 | lavamind | rangi: let me know if you find it |
| 22:20 | for now I have to run | |
| 22:20 | thanks btw | |
| 22:22 | Joubu | bug 15562 |
| 22:22 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Make Koha more suitable for shared hosting with plack |
| 22:34 | zenkit | how do i create multiple instances of koha in one server? |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | koha-create --create-db instance1 |
| 22:38 | koha-create --create-db instance2 | |
| 22:38 | koha-create --create-db instance 3 | |
| 22:38 | and so on | |
| 22:38 | zenkit | thanks :wizzyrea |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | np |
| 22:38 | zenkit | How about the ip references |
| 22:39 | wizzyrea | you can edit the apache config files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/instance1.conf (instance2.conf, instance3.conf, etc.) |
| 22:39 | and restart apache | |
| 22:40 | maybe I'm not understanding what you're referring to as "ip references" | |
| 22:41 | zenkit | i wish to have each instance of koha referenced by a unique ip or port no. |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | then yeah, as before |
| 22:42 | zenkit | is zebra indexing instantiated to index simultaneous? |
| 22:43 | wizzyrea | pass |
| 22:45 | zenkit | do i have to do configure anything in koha_config with regard to kohadb instances |
| 22:46 | wizzyrea | you don't have to, but some things are nice to do |
| 22:46 | for example, your domain name is probably not mydnsname.com | |
| 22:46 | so set that to your one | |
| 22:46 | you might not like the intranet to have -intra, you might prefer -admin, or -staff | |
| 22:46 | you might want to set memcached on by default for all new instances, that's in there | |
| 22:47 | it sets the settings for all new instances | |
| 22:47 | at least the ones created since you changed your koha_config | |
| 22:47 | actually I just realised you might be asking a different question | |
| 22:48 | i.e. "do I have to change anything in the koha-conf.xml related to the database" | |
| 22:48 | the answer to that question is "no, if you are running the database server locally you do not" | |
| 22:48 | zenkit | related to zebra indexing |
| 22:48 | ... | |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | if you are running the zebra server locally you shouldn't have to change anything |
| 22:49 | don't think too hard about it. | |
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| 22:50 | zenkit | :) ok. Let me give it a try and get back to you. |
| 22:50 | thanks a lot wizzyrea | |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | good luck :90 |
| 22:50 | :) | |
| 23:02 | zenkit | @wizzyrea i don't if will be suitable to koha on Amazon ec2 t2.nano 512 MB 1vCPU upto 3.3GHz |
| 23:02 | huginn` | zenkit: downloading the Perl source |
| 23:03 | zenkit | anyone please... |
| 23:06 | wizzyrea | that's gonna be tight |
| 23:06 | I personally wouldn't go that small, especially if you anticipate any sort of actual usage. | |
| 23:07 | zenkit | 10GB of storage |
| 23:07 | 15,000 biblio | |
| 23:07 | wizzyrea | if you are running multiple instances, that will not be enough. |
| 23:07 | not enough even for one really | |
| 23:07 | Koha isn't a lightweight anymore. | |
| 23:09 | zenkit | yes I realize recently, koha has put on weight |
| 23:11 | how about t2.micro? will that be suitable or your recommendation... | |
| 23:12 | wizzyrea | i wouldn't go with less than 2GB RAM and at least 20-30GB storage. |
| 23:13 | idk what the amazon sizes mean anymore I use the catalyst cloud :P | |
| 23:16 | zenkit | yes i c the price in catalyst seems much higher |
| 23:18 | Anyway I'll take your recommendation. thanks | |
| 23:24 | wizzyrea | oh I wasn't saying you should use that, just that I don't know what the names for aws sizes mean. |
| 23:26 | zenkit | ya, I was referring to the minimum server config |
| 23:28 | I don't know if it would support 50-100 users at a given instance | |
| 23:31 | wizzyrea | 50-100 per instance with like 5 instances on the server? |
| 23:31 | each with 15k bibs? | |
| 23:31 | a very small server, even that would be tight. | |
| 23:32 | zenkit | yes 15k |
| 23:32 | 2GB 20GB Storage | |
| 23:32 | wizzyrea | storage is cheap tho yeah? |
| 23:32 | don't skimp. | |
| 23:33 | you might get away with it on that RAM | |
| 23:33 | you just... don't wanna be running out of storage every night when you do backups for 5 instances. | |
| 23:33 | it might be fine | |
| 23:34 | but idk what all you're planning to keep in your Koha, and thusly don't really feel qualified to size your server. | |
| 23:34 | zenkit | alright i do then will be requiring more Storage |
| 23:34 | wizzyrea | go as big as you can afford. |
| 23:34 | ^advice for life, really. | |
| 23:34 | zenkit | I hope 2GB RAM should fine? |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | i guess it's not terrible to size it up in that regard if it's not ok |
| 23:35 | work-wise | |
| 23:35 | go as big as you can afford. | |
| 23:35 | no, I don't want to say "yes that will be ok" because I really can't say. | |
| 23:36 | lavamind | you definately want more than 2gb of ram with 5 instances and plack |
| 23:37 | wizzyrea | (I would personally never go that small if I was going to have more than one instance. But I am not you and I don't have your $$ constraints) |
| 23:37 | lavamind | rangi: bug 15562 is definately what I'm looking for |
| 23:37 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Make Koha more suitable for shared hosting with plack |
| 23:38 | zenkit | ya need to evaluate on the $ |
| 23:40 | Can we also implement google OAuth for patrons? | |
| 23:42 | lavamind | zenkit: look in https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
| 23:42 | enhancement request are filed there | |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | yes that's a feature |
| 23:42 | i think | |
| 23:42 | at least someone was working on it | |
| 23:46 | zenkit | I came across the manual. Haven't tried yet. I wish it works well. Interesting feature. After all having multiple logins is a nightmare |
| 23:58 | gtg :wizzyrea c y soon | |
| 23:58 | bye |
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