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| 06:24 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:18 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:18 | huginn | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: :: NoneF/NoneC | Thursday: Periods of rain. High 63F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a half an inch. Thursday Night: Rain early. Decreasing clouds overnight. Low 48F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 90%. |
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| 07:38 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:53 | andreashm | morning #koha |
| 08:00 | is there an easy way do disable the cache? (koha or apache?) testing some css stuff on a test-server an it's updating slowly | |
| 08:03 | eythian | won't that be the browser cache? |
| 08:04 | andreashm | eythian: no, tried on different browsers. but my coworker is testing using opacusercss instead, works well. so not an issue anymore. |
| 08:12 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 08:22 | andreashm | hey tuxayo |
| 08:22 | tuxayo | hi andreashm :) |
| 08:24 | ashimema | mornin' |
| 08:33 | gaetan_B | andreashm: could be plack getting in the way also, i restart plack manually very often when testing these things |
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| 08:44 | tuxayo | _oftc_ashimema[m]: morning :) |
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| 09:53 | andreashm | gaetan_B: thanks! that's a good tip. (I missed that you wrote earlier) |
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| 11:30 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 11:46 | ashimema | @wunder Stevenage, UK |
| 11:46 | huginn | ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Stevenage, UK |
| 11:46 | ashimema | @wunder Stevenage, GB |
| 11:46 | huginn | ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Stevenage, GB |
| 11:47 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 11:47 | huginn | oleonard: Athens, OH :: Mostly Cloudy :: 65F/18C | Thursday: Mostly cloudy early, then thunderstorms developing this afternoon. High 79F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Thursday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 63F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. |
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| 12:01 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:01 | tuxayo | hi marcelr |
| 12:01 | marcelr | hi tuxayo |
| 12:08 | kidclamp | hi marcelr tuxayo |
| 12:08 | tuxayo you messaged me yesterday? | |
| 12:09 | tuxayo | hi kidclamp |
| 12:09 | marcelr | hi kidclamp |
| 12:10 | tuxayo | kidclamp: yes it was about this wiki page: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:WNickC |
| 12:10 | Which seems to be you but outdated ^^ | |
| 12:10 | kidclamp | I am not even WNickC anymore :-) |
| 12:11 | oleonard | Good ol' WikiNick |
| 12:11 | marcelr | WNickC++ |
| 12:12 | tuxayo | WNickC++ |
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| 12:13 | oleonard | Anyone remember what year we moved #koha to oftc? |
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| 12:15 | tuxayo | oleonard: maybe https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]f=4010&oldid=4009 |
| 12:15 | Not sure how if it was updated without too much lag | |
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| 12:16 | * oleonard | was thinking of nicknames long past https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]f=prev&oldid=3607 |
| 12:18 | kidclamp | moved and updated tuxayo |
| 12:19 | marcelr | do nicknames expire? |
| 12:20 | tuxayo | Yep it's 2011 oleonard |
| 12:20 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g,_5_January_2011 | |
| 12:20 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…],_2_February_2011 | |
| 12:20 | Transcript of the 2n meeting confirms this. | |
| 12:20 | oleonard | marcelr: Many of our old nicknames were taken on the oftc network when we moved from katipo |
| 12:20 | marcelr | oops we crossed the 7 years mark |
| 12:21 | gveranis | hi all I would like to ask something for cataloguing |
| 12:21 | it is possible to set a default value for indicators ? | |
| 12:22 | on some fields ? or on save it set the default form MARC ? | |
| 12:22 | tuxayo | kidclamp++ |
| 12:22 | For "sonic screwdriver" | |
| 12:23 | marcelr | gveranis: the new version will contain such features |
| 12:23 | 18.05 | |
| 12:23 | talking about indicators here | |
| 12:23 | gveranis | thanks |
| 12:24 | marcelr | the other fields can have already |
| 12:24 | defaults | |
| 12:24 | wahanui | defaults are 80 with packages. |
| 12:24 | marcelr | wahanui: good to see you |
| 12:24 | wahanui | marcelr: what? |
| 12:24 | marcelr | yeah |
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| 13:06 | caroline | Hello everyone! |
| 13:07 | marcelr | hello caroline |
| 13:08 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 13:09 | caroline | Could someone check if the "Holds to pull" list is working? I reserved an available item and it's not appearing in the list... |
| 13:09 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 13:09 | did you finish the rest api? | |
| 13:09 | tcohen | almost there jajaja |
| 13:09 | marcelr | great |
| 13:09 | :) | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | caroline: It's working for me |
| 13:20 | caroline | oleonard: ok, thanks, it must be something I'm doing wrong |
| 13:20 | oleonard | caroline: Is your hold from the last couple of days? The report has a very narrow default date range |
| 13:21 | caroline | oleonard: yes, I made it yesterday. I even changed the dates to show the reservations from the last year and there's nothing |
| 13:21 | oleonard | :/ |
| 13:22 | caroline | I know... :( I'm trying to document the new feature of being able to mark an item as lost from that list, but it doesn't show any item... |
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| 13:22 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 13:22 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 13:22 | caroline | hi LeeJ |
| 13:23 | marcelr | LeeJ! |
| 13:23 | LeeJ | hi caroline marcelr |
| 13:23 | caroline | oleonard: my master is up-to-date, so i'm really stumped |
| 13:23 | LeeJ | caroline: just merged your request |
| 13:23 | marcelr | caroline: did you check if you have a hold on opac-user? |
| 13:23 | caroline | LeeJ: thanks! |
| 13:24 | marcelr: how do I check that? What is opac-user? | |
| 13:24 | marcelr | go to opac and click your username in the bar |
| 13:24 | caroline | ah ok! |
| 13:24 | going to check right now | |
| 13:25 | but the hold appears in the record on the staff side | |
| 13:25 | marcelr | ok thats another check |
| 13:25 | so you know it is there | |
| 13:25 | LeeJ | marcelr: I greatly appreciate the details/descriptions you add to the authorities enhancements/features...makes our lives easier during documentation :) |
| 13:25 | marcelr | cool |
| 13:26 | oleonard | caroline: Does the record on hold have no items which aren't lost/damaged/notforloan/withdrawn? |
| 13:26 | caroline | the hold is also in the holds queue |
| 13:26 | wahanui | okay, caroline. |
| 13:27 | caroline | oleonard: there is only one item and it's available |
| 13:27 | oleonard | wahanui: the hold? |
| 13:27 | wahanui | hmmm... the hold is in the holds queue |
| 13:28 | caroline | lol! said like that, it sounds very philosophical |
| 13:28 | oleonard | wahanui: my hovercraft? |
| 13:28 | wahanui | i don't know, oleonard |
| 13:28 | oleonard | tsk |
| 13:29 | bag | morning all |
| 13:29 | caroline | marcelr: I confirm that the hold shows on in the user's opac account |
| 13:29 | hi bag! | |
| 13:29 | oleonard | You out of your time zone bag or just up early? |
| 13:30 | bag | hehe - up at a normal time for me ;) |
| 13:31 | Just commenting in #koha earlier than normal | |
| 13:31 | oleonard | #koha is like a fresh cup of coffee |
| 13:31 | LeeJ | Joubu: around? |
| 13:31 | bag | and waiting for the eletric kettle to heat the water ;) |
| 13:36 | LeeJ | hiya bag |
| 13:40 | tcohen | morning bag, isn't it too early? :-D |
| 13:45 | oleonard | Stop tcohen you'll make bag sleepy |
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| 13:45 | tcohen | hehe |
| 13:46 | Guest2933 | nick Paul |
| 13:46 | LeeJ | caroline: did anyone confirm holds to pull was broken |
| 13:46 | ? | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | LeeJ: It works for me |
| 13:46 | caroline | LeeJ: everybody says it's working for them |
| 13:46 | LeeJ | hmm |
| 13:47 | caroline | but it isnt for me |
| 13:47 | marcelr | caroline: maybe you have a hold that has no expirationdate |
| 13:47 | there was a bug about that | |
| 13:47 | pushed just this week | |
| 13:47 | caroline | marcelr: I will check |
| 13:47 | LeeJ | marcelr++ |
| 13:47 | marcelr | you should check if all holds have a expirationdate |
| 13:47 | let me check the bug number | |
| 13:47 | Guest2933 | Hello, anybody are trying to create a rpm type installation package? |
| 13:48 | marcelr | caroline: bug 20724 |
| 13:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" |
| 13:48 | marcelr | and bug 20773 |
| 13:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20773 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , bug 20724 follow-up - Database cleanup |
| 13:49 | caroline | marcelr: there is no expiration in the staff client. I will check in the database directly |
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| 13:49 | caroline | hmm.. I chased him away... :/ |
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| 13:50 | marcelr | @later tell Joubu: exception for 18856 ? |
| 13:50 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:51 | caroline | marcelr: I confirm there is not expiration date in the database. Isn't the expiration date added when the hold is put in "Waiting"? |
| 13:51 | marcelr | that is the new report for |
| 13:52 | you could do it via command line if you know mysql ? | |
| 13:52 | see the second bug for an example | |
| 13:52 | caroline | you mean add the expiration date? |
| 13:52 | marcelr | yes |
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| 13:53 | marcelr | hmm |
| 13:53 | in and out | |
| 13:55 | caroline | Ok, so I added the expiration date, but there is still nothing in the holds to pull |
| 13:56 | Is there a script I'm supposed to run? Like build_holds_queue but for the holds to pull? | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | No |
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| 14:01 | marcelr | have to go |
| 14:05 | LeeJ | caroline: holds to pull doesn't use a script...in the pendingreserves.pl file there's a SQL query (line 173 on current master) that collects all unfilled holds of items that are not checked out |
| 14:05 | :) | |
| 14:06 | caroline | LeeJ: That's what I figured. It worked instantly in my 17.05 version in production, but it doesn't work in my master |
| 14:06 | LeeJ | that's unusual |
| 14:07 | caroline | I really don't know what's wrong. I've git pulled and fetched and statused and logged, and everything seems up to date |
| 14:08 | LeeJ | if you comment a test plan in task #291 I'll see if I run into the same problem :) |
| 14:08 | caroline | ok, will do |
| 14:09 | But it's pretty straightforward. Place a hold on an available item, see if it's in the Holds to pull list | |
| 14:13 | LeeJ | mhm |
| 14:15 | caroline: well I've been reading a book called Pragmatic Programmer and one of its key suggestions was attempting to reproduce bugs by following exact steps because each person may test different ways :) | |
| 14:16 | caroline | :) It's what I do with my clients too. And my colleagues can't believe the test plans I write for them ;) lol! |
| 14:16 | LeeJ | hahaha |
| 14:16 | caroline | a gazillion steps, lol! |
| 14:17 | LeeJ | I used to be the test subject for one of our campus trainers when she was my supervisor years ago |
| 14:17 | she documented the same way :) | |
| 14:19 | eythian | Yes, explicit atomic steps is always the best way |
| 14:19 | It removes unconscious assumptions, too. | |
| 14:20 | LeeJ | yes! |
| 14:20 | atomic-steps++ | |
| 14:20 | the book has really opened my eyes to an entirely different way of writing code | |
| 14:26 | tcohen | alex_a: around? |
| 14:26 | alex_a | tcohen, \o |
| 14:27 | tcohen | I'm outlining a new RFC for accountlines, can we zoom or hangouts? |
| 14:27 | a couple minutes | |
| 14:27 | alex_a | accountlines? |
| 14:27 | wahanui | hmmm... accountlines is the table |
| 14:28 | alex_a | Are you talking about REST API? |
| 14:28 | tcohen | alex_a: bug 15165 |
| 14:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, In Discussion , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines |
| 14:28 | alex_a | tcohen, ok |
| 14:28 | tcohen | yes, the API |
| 14:28 | do you use zoom? | |
| 14:28 | LeeJ | caroline: followed your test plan and I got holds to pull results |
| 14:29 | caroline | LeeJ: :(((( |
| 14:29 | alex_a | hangout if you want (but speak very very very slowly please :) ) |
| 14:29 | LeeJ | caroline: are you on kohadevbox? have you tried a reset_all? |
| 14:29 | alex_a | tcohen, ^ |
| 14:29 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:31 | caroline | LeeJ: no, I have an installation on my computer (It was installed during my first week, so don't ask me details, I don't remember much ;) ) I git pull when I need to work n it so it's up-to-date. And I don't do any development, so I'm not branhcing out or anything |
| 14:31 | LeeJ | O.o |
| 14:31 | that's odd... | |
| 14:31 | Joubu | hi all |
| 14:31 | * LeeJ | waves to Joubu |
| 14:32 | caroline | hi Joubu |
| 14:32 | LeeJ | Joubu: noticed in the release notes it now lists 1 less enhancement..? |
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| 14:34 | Joubu | LeeJ: it's bug 20540 |
| 14:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20540 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , TransformHtmlToXml can duplicate the datafield close tag |
| 14:34 | caroline | LeeJ: currently my "HEAD" is at c1c7f5e (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD) - Lee Jamison : Bug 7143: Update about page for documentation team, but I saw that bug 20724 was pushed yesterday so I may be missing stuff...? |
| 14:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 14:34 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" | |
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| 14:39 | Joubu | caroline: git fetch origin |
| 14:39 | well, then rebase. But it means your repo is not up-to-date | |
| 14:40 | caroline | Joubu: I fetched and it says my branch is up-to-date with origin/master |
| 14:41 | tcohen | Joubu: if you agree with my PR, then I will add jq to kohadevbox |
| 14:41 | Joubu | caroline: sorry, I did not check, c1c7f5e is indeed the current master :) |
| 14:42 | tcohen: where is your PR? | |
| 14:42 | caroline | Joubu: :) yay! |
| 14:43 | So I'm not missing any developments, that doesn't help my problem, but it's reassuring nonetheless | |
| 14:43 | tcohen | koha-misc4dev |
| 14:43 | ? | |
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| 15:01 | cait | kidclamp++ |
| 15:10 | caroline | cait: question about capitalization: in the middle of a sentence, should I remove the capital letters for specific types of information? For example: Enter a code for your Authorized value into the 'Authorized value' field. |
| 15:11 | Should it be Enter a code for your authorized value into the 'Authorized value' field | |
| 15:11 | Or "Authorized value" is like a set term in Koha? | |
| 15:13 | Later on, there is this sentence "New authorized values can be added to any existing or new category." | |
| 15:13 | So I guess in the middle of a sentence we don't use capital letters? | |
| 15:17 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 19862: Turn off RoutingListAddReserves on new installations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e3009696c847791d> |
| 15:17 | News from kohagit: Bug 18856: (QA follow-up) Rename method to avoid confusion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]456ff2f8027767b30> | |
| 15:17 | News from kohagit: Bug 18856: Don't show cancel option for waiting holds in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4ebc62924f7f85c9> | |
| 15:17 | alex_a | tcohen++ |
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| 15:26 | ashimema | Do we really still recomment/require the use of Modern::Perl for new code.. without even specifying a year pragma? |
| 15:26 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:27 | ashimema | ok |
| 15:36 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:10 | jm | hola |
| 16:27 | caroline | LeeJ: are you there? |
| 16:30 | Joubu | @later tell rangi release notes have a link to the kohadocs repo, should I update the url with https://gitlab/koha-community/koha-manual (or we stick with "kohadocs")? |
| 16:30 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:40 | huginn | News from kohagit: Release notes for 18.05.00-rc2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cdccae23df1f2314f> |
| 16:40 | News from kohagit: Bug 18786: Add PAYMENT_TYPE to the installer file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4898bd78fee287ee0> | |
| 16:41 | sen | jm: asking here would be best, PMing random people in the channel isn't the best way |
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| 16:49 | fer | Hello everyone. Could someone tell me how to access opac from the internet? Please. At the moment I can only do it locally. |
| 16:59 | oleonard | fer: Your question is a general server-related question rather than a Koha-specific one, so you might try searching the web for documentation related to your server. Apache probably. |
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| 17:09 | LeeJ | caroline: sorry! I am now |
| 17:09 | caroline | LeeJ: no problem! |
| 17:09 | LeeJ | what's up? |
| 17:09 | caroline | Well, I already sent my merge request, but I was wondering if you were very picky on separating each change in different commits? |
| 17:10 | I was going through the administration chapter to fix the capitalization and I noticed one section was obsolete | |
| 17:10 | so I changed it but I didn't do two different commits | |
| 17:11 | LeeJ | caroline: I don't really have a preference. I'm only hesitant if it's more than 10+ changes (excluding typos/capitalization) |
| 17:11 | caroline | 10+ lines you mean? |
| 17:12 | You might have to go trough what I did, there is a lot of changes for capitalization (like 200+) | |
| 17:12 | LeeJ | more or less, yes |
| 17:12 | caroline: yours are fine..merging now | |
| 17:12 | caroline | but the Koha to MARC mapping is fairly small |
| 17:13 | I will try to make smaller commits in the future. | |
| 17:13 | LeeJ | my largest concern would be adding say every new feature into a single commit |
| 17:13 | caroline | Ah ok, I understand |
| 17:13 | LeeJ | your current volume is fine caroline! |
| 17:13 | caroline | :) |
| 17:15 | LeeJ | caroline: I'm urging for smaller commits because last release I submitted a merge to cait that had something like 40+ lines |
| 17:16 | but also because if your edits timeout then many more have to get fixed | |
| 17:21 | caroline: I'm going to try to tackle as many enhancements as I can today | |
| 17:21 | caroline | LeeJ: In the Patrons chapter it says that only patrons with "Staff" type categories can have permissions. I have not found that to be true. Can you confirm? |
| 17:23 | LeeJ: in the "new features" I'm not comfortable with the API and architechture features. I'd rather not do them. I'll work on the Self-checkout thing, and I'lll move on to enhancements after | |
| 17:24 | LeeJ | caroline: regarding permissions, it has not been true for us. We have students with permissions |
| 17:25 | caroline: I'll have a go at them and see how I make out | |
| 17:25 | caroline | LeeJ: same here. I will remove that specification |
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| 17:27 | LeeJ | caroline: thank you! :) |
| 17:27 | * LeeJ | waves to cait |
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| 18:58 | caroline | LeeJ or cait, how do I add a reference to a chapter heading? Specifically Course reserves. There is no _course-reserves-label |
| 18:59 | LeeJ | hmm..not sure |
| 19:00 | caroline | I'll point the reference to the first *-label in the course reserves chapter for now |
| 19:00 | LeeJ | okay :) |
| 19:04 | Joubu | caroline: http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/m[…]sectionlabel.html |
| 19:07 | caroline | Thanks Joubu! I had noticed those I wasn't sure what the difference was. I would still prefer to point to a *-label since heading can change |
| 19:09 | Joubu | caroline: yes, I think it's better to use label. Otherwise if the title is changed, the link will be broken |
| 19:14 | caroline | Joubu: so, should I add a label at the top of the chapter? |
| 19:20 | pastebot | "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen just tried spinning up a box w/ ES enabled and got this" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/50 |
| 19:20 | LeeJ | just an FYI |
| 19:21 | tcohen | LeeJ: please ping drojf |
| 19:21 | LeeJ | kk |
| 19:22 | tcohen | its a dependency issue in master packages it sems |
| 19:23 | LeeJ | @later tell drojf tcohen told me to ping you about this..he said it appears to be a dependency issue in master packages. I got this error during koha-common install step when spinning up a kohadevbox with ES enabled http://paste.koha-community.org/50 |
| 19:23 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:24 | tcohen | thanks LeeJ |
| 19:24 | #endmeeting | |
| 19:24 | LeeJ | thank you for giving me some direction for it tcohen |
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| 19:58 | cait | or add a label - that's what I did |
| 19:59 | caroline: what Joubu said ... should scroll down. will also be safer for translations | |
| 20:00 | caroline | cait: ? |
| 20:00 | I added a label | |
| 20:00 | cait | sorry, might be slightyl confused today :) |
| 20:00 | labels are good | |
| 20:01 | caroline | labels++ |
| 20:01 | ;) | |
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| 20:17 | * andreashm | waves |
| 20:17 | caroline | hi andreashm! |
| 20:18 | andreashm | tcohen: woho! rest api accountlines RFC! yay! |
| 20:18 | hi caroline | |
| 20:45 | * LeeJ | waves to andreashm |
| 20:46 | is trying to get devbox with ES to work and failing horribly | |
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