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00:59 | mtompset | tcohen, I had to add headless, tzdata-java and tzdata of a particular version with a --forced-yes, in order to get it to build. |
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02:25 | mtompset | @seen cait |
02:25 | huginn | mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 days, 5 hours, 1 minute, and 11 seconds ago: <cait> usually they go fast :) |
02:26 | mtompset | @seen Joubu |
02:26 | huginn | mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell fridolin I think you should revert 20234 from 17.05.x |
02:27 | mtompset | Valid call there. |
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02:52 | mtompset | @later tell cait bug 20706 has a tiny issue, which if you fixed, I would be able to get around to signing off. Thank you. |
02:52 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
03:10 | mtompset | @seen wizzyrea |
03:10 | huginn | mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> they should definitely be on their way to bed :P |
03:11 | wizzyrea | hi, sup |
03:11 | mtompset | bug 20706 |
03:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) |
03:11 | mtompset | I just added a patch and a test. |
03:11 | I figured you might like to sign something off for cait. :) | |
03:13 | Not to mention release 18.05 candidate, and it is kind of necessary to fix the help files, at least in English. :) | |
03:16 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea | |
03:16 | wizzyrea | right |
03:16 | later | |
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05:56 | magnuse | \o/ |
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06:27 | alex_a | bonjour |
06:27 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
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06:35 | reiveune | hello |
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07:19 | tuxayo | Hola Koha! |
07:20 | I'm happy because my PC doesn't crash anymore when starting a virtual machine. Which means I can use a devbox again!!! | |
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07:43 | gaetan_B | hello |
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08:35 | andreashm | morning |
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08:50 | cait | good morning #koha |
09:03 | tuxayo | "All tests successful." |
09:03 | Hello again KohaDevBox, it's been a long time! :D | |
09:08 | * cait | waves at tuxayo |
09:08 | tuxayo | o/ cait |
09:08 | cait | hm coming back after a few days... we still miss a 18.05 release maint? :( |
09:13 | tuxayo | cait: it seems so. I've heard nothing new since the meeting. And a quick search in the IRC logs didn't allowed to find more info. (←terrible phrasing...) |
09:19 | cait | hm yeah, i hope someone turns up before the election meeting |
09:19 | tomorrow? | |
09:19 | wahanui | tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today. |
09:22 | tuxayo | cait: yes https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]6_May_2018#Agenda |
09:24 | cait | hm |
09:24 | i am going to send a meeting reminder | |
09:28 | andreashm | cait: always a good idea with a reminder! |
09:29 | cait | there is also the calendar thing, but can point out we are still missing some important roles |
09:30 | just started raining heavily, wow | |
09:32 | tuxayo | cait: If there are people that could turn up for 18.05 RMaint, they might think that it's probable that ashimema_ is interested so they might not turn up. |
09:32 | cait | ashimema ping? |
09:33 | tuxayo | Even worse, they might not be here at the meeting so we might never hear about potential candidates. |
09:34 | cait | i thin it's high time to put your name down if you want to do it |
09:35 | andreashm | cait: calendar thing? |
09:35 | cait | Joubu made something that will add the dates to your calendar |
09:36 | calendar link on top: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings | |
09:38 | andreashm | cait: oh, thanks! |
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09:56 | * kidclamp | waves |
09:57 | * ere | waves back |
09:58 | cait | hi kidclamp and ere |
09:58 | ere | hi cait! |
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10:16 | ashimema | Hi cait |
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10:18 | ashimema | did you get my PM's cait? |
10:37 | cait | only one :) |
10:37 | hi drojf :) | |
10:38 | ashimema only one? | |
10:38 | from ashimema_ | |
10:44 | ashimema | boo.. so riot/matrix isn't forwarding pm's properly |
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11:23 | ashimema | doppelgänger be gone. |
11:24 | cait | way less confusing :) |
11:25 | * ashimema | still needs two irc clients as matrix doesn't yet have bridges to all his channels :( |
11:27 | * cait | is still happily using pidgin |
11:29 | drojf | ashimema: run your own matrix server |
11:29 | ashimema | not got around to working that out yet. |
11:29 | magnuse | AndrewIsh++ |
11:29 | ashimema | very tempted though.. are you on matrix then drojf? |
11:30 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: Glad you approve! ;-) |
11:30 | * eythian | just uses quassel |
11:30 | magnuse | i have not looked at the updated patch for bug 20750 yet, but a quick turnaround is good :-) |
11:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Allow timestamped auditing of ILL request events |
11:31 | magnuse | and those patches are saving me some work ;-) |
11:32 | ashimema | AndrewIsh is on an ILL sprint for a few more days yet ;) |
11:32 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: +1 |
11:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
11:32 | drojf | ashimema: i played with it a bit and set up a server. i had a bridge here too, not sure if it is still there actually. but riot did not cope with the amount of messages or something when i left the matrix account in here. have not tired in a while |
11:33 | *tried | |
11:33 | oleonard | Hi drojf, long time no see |
11:33 | drojf | hi oleonard :) |
11:33 | eythian | also, long time no sea: (|-<<<<<-< |
11:33 | drojf | true! |
11:35 | oleonard | Someone captured your sealskin and you've had to live as a human on dry land ever since? |
11:37 | eythian | You get my pain! |
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12:00 | cait | next meetings? |
12:00 | wahanui | well, next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
12:03 | * LeeJ | waves |
12:03 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
12:03 | * LeeJ | LeeJ uses AdiIRC |
12:07 | cait | Joubu: around? |
12:09 | @later tell Joubu can the calendar for the meetings be used without using Google calendar? | |
12:09 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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12:16 | cait | @later tell Joubu I think I ofund a way to use it, th |
12:16 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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12:30 | ashimema | It's just ical isn't it cait |
12:31 | magnuse | AndrewIsh: looks like the new patch on bug 20750 touches Koha/Schema/Result/SocialData.pm - is that by design? |
12:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Needs Signoff , Allow timestamped auditing of ILL request events |
12:43 | LeeJ | cait: https://calendar.google.com/ca[…]merica%2FNew_York |
12:44 | well that sets it for my time zone but I'm sure it can be adjusted :) that's the public cal link | |
12:46 | alex_a | Joubu, do you fail QA bug 20588 ? |
12:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20588 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Apply dataTable on search fields and mapping tables |
12:46 | LeeJ | I think if you remove the CTZ param it would probably convert to local TZ |
12:49 | cait: did the feature and/or string freeze happen yet? If not do we know when it will? | |
12:51 | oleonard | String freeze was May 4 according to the calendar |
12:54 | LeeJ | oleonard: thanks! I didn't realize the freezes were listed there |
12:55 | Joubu | hi #koha |
12:55 | oleonard | I don't know if Joubu fudged any of those dates, but we're definitely past all of them :) |
12:55 | * LeeJ | waves to Joubu |
12:55 | LeeJ | speak of the devil :) |
12:57 | Joubu: just to confirm..everything (excluding bugfixes) listed in the release notes is all that will be in 18.05 yes? | |
12:57 | *everything up to the May 9th commit | |
12:57 | Joubu | yes, since 2 weeks already ;) |
12:58 | LeeJ | sorry, last week was final exams week :) |
12:58 | Joubu | alex_a: it looks like this view needs a complete refresh. The different enhancements you want to add make it less ergonomic in my opinion |
12:59 | " | |
12:59 | I do not remember if this is used" | |
12:59 | oleonard | The last time I looked at the elasticsearch configuration page the drag-and-drop reordering wasn't working. Joubu have you looked at it recently? |
12:59 | Joubu | so I think I did not PQA because I did not have time to confirm that |
13:00 | oleonard: yes it does work | |
13:01 | for the mappings, not the field list | |
13:03 | alex_a | The question is: Do we need drag N drop on this table? |
13:03 | I would say no | |
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13:03 | alex_a | 1) it's not saved |
13:03 | cait | i guess the question is if the sequence matters |
13:03 | alex_a | 2) In ES fields/index order is not taken into account |
13:03 | oleonard | I thought the point was for it to be saved. Why have it if it isn't saved? |
13:04 | cait | hm that seems odd |
13:04 | gaetan_B | i think it's inherited from some old work on solr |
13:04 | but not required for elastic | |
13:04 | cait | i am not sure if we reused any of that old work |
13:04 | LeeJ | @later tell caroline I added a new status for tasks of "Needs screenshots" so we can at least get the content into master then have indication of which ones we need images for |
13:04 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
13:04 | oleonard | alex_a: If those points are true then you're right, it's not needed. |
13:04 | cait | but yeah, question is why is it there in the first place |
13:04 | LeeJ | @later tell davidnind I added a new status for tasks of "Needs screenshots" so we can at least get the content into master then have indication of which ones we need images for |
13:04 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
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13:05 | gaetan_B | well kidclamp told me "drag and drop was implemented I think because SOLR cared which mapping was first and would sort on that - ES won't - if you give it an array if will sort however it wants" when we discussed it |
13:06 | kidclamp | that sounds like something I would say |
13:06 | gaetan_B | we (alex_a, clrh and i)also think this is were this came from |
13:06 | cait | ah alright |
13:06 | gaetan_B | but no one is sure |
13:06 | oleonard | That's so kidclamp |
13:06 | cait | as just thinking because we had already removed the old code when the new was started |
13:06 | Joubu | alex_a: I am focussed on 18.05 release, sorry I do not have time for that now |
13:07 | btw | |
13:07 | bug 20693 | |
13:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20693 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Signed Off , Plack fails, because 'libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl' package is not installed |
13:07 | Joubu | bug 20706 |
13:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20706 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) |
13:07 | Joubu | bug 20724 |
13:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" |
13:07 | oleonard | I've been waiting to submit some patches for that template pending understanding of the sorting issue |
13:07 | Joubu | bug 20437 |
13:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20437 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Force requirement for HTTP::OAI 3.27 |
13:07 | Joubu | can be considered as blocker for 18.05 |
13:08 | bug 20706 | |
13:08 | cait | bug 20706 |
13:08 | hm | |
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13:09 | oleonard | huginn just mentioned it above, trying not to spam us |
13:09 | huginn | oleonard: downloading the Perl source |
13:09 | oleonard | huginn not everything is about you |
13:09 | huginn | oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
13:09 | cait | Joubu: was going to ask about 20177 |
13:09 | bug 20177 | |
13:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20177 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove GROUP BY clause in GetCourses |
13:10 | cait | was going to do some regression testing in order to be able to pass it, is it on the list still? |
13:10 | Joubu | cait: too late, but that really a shame because we will not have bug 20521... |
13:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20521 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, BLOCKED , dev installations should run with problematic SQL modes |
13:10 | cait | too late = too complicated? |
13:10 | yeah... | |
13:10 | Joubu | and so no regression tests on sql modes done by jenkins |
13:11 | cait | :( |
13:11 | Joubu | Joubu added keyword RM_priority on 2018-04-04... |
13:11 | cait | i know |
13:11 | it's been in my emails to qa team for a while too | |
13:11 | it seems a small change | |
13:13 | Joubu | gaetan_B: sort could also be used for priority, for faceted fields for instance |
13:13 | oleonard | y |
13:15 | ^^ That was misplaced focus, not agreement. Though Joubu presumably knows what he's talking about | |
13:21 | LeeJ | Joubu: I'm sending out an email to the lists about a documentation sprint from today until release. Should I indicate the cutoff for documentation as the 21st or the 22nd? |
13:27 | cait | why do we need a cutoff? |
13:28 | LeeJ | cait: it could just be an instance of my ignorance but it was my understanding the day of version release there was a "final" version of a release's PDF documentation then beyond that would be for master for the next release |
13:28 | cait: correct me if I'm wrong :) | |
13:29 | cait | hm i think that depends on the docs team |
13:29 | LeeJ | ah didn't know that |
13:29 | cait | as a lot of 18.05 might still be missing you could branch out a little later i tihnk |
13:30 | i am not sure what would need to be changed for the jobs running | |
13:30 | LeeJ | thanks :) I'll consult with rangi next time I see him on and get his take on it |
13:30 | cait | sounds good |
13:31 | LeeJ | cait: loving the docs structure rework by the way :) |
13:31 | cait | oh thx :) |
13:31 | LeeJ | soooo much easier to handle |
13:31 | cait | feels not quite done yet... but getting there |
13:32 | LeeJ | progress is progress :) |
13:33 | Joubu | the manual is online, so we can update it when we want, no need to stop when it's released :) |
13:35 | LeeJ | okay thanks for the confirmation Joubu I just wasn't sure because the docs page on the site has links to each version's PDF..didn't know but now I do :) |
13:36 | cait | hm i think they are not autogenerated yet |
13:37 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: Well spotted on me mistakenly touching Koha/Schema/Result/SocialData.pm - now fixed :) |
13:37 | magnuse: Thanks for the pointer :) | |
13:39 | ashimema | Are the docs versioned? |
13:40 | I can't remember | |
13:40 | yeah they are.. | |
13:40 | so branching an 18.05 and continueing work on it sounds like the way to go to me.. | |
13:41 | the docs in master should reflect the work being pushed to master in my opinion | |
13:41 | LeeJ | wait a tick...so then if something needed to be added retroactively then that should still be fine I'd think? |
13:41 | cait | we are not there yet i think |
13:41 | time wise | |
13:41 | i'd probably branch out when the first 18.11 patch comes in | |
13:42 | LeeJ | cait: I like that idea :) |
13:42 | cait | there is still a lot for 18.05 to document |
13:42 | * LeeJ | groans |
13:42 | LeeJ | don't I know it lol |
13:42 | cait | i know |
13:42 | LeeJ | working on it allllll day |
13:42 | cait | i have to translate now :( |
13:42 | will see how far ig et today in my todo list | |
13:42 | ashimema | yup |
13:42 | LeeJ | cait: Viel Glück :) |
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13:44 | cait | thx :) |
13:44 | stuff like this: %s %sPayment, thanks %sPayment, thanks (cash via SIP2) %sPayment, thanks (VISA via SIP2) %sPayment, thanks (credit card via SIP2) %sNew card %sFine %sAccount management fee %sSundry %sLost item %sWriteoff %sAccruing fine %sHold waiting too long %sRental fee %sForgiven %sLost item fee refund %sProcessing fee %sPayment %sWriteoff %sCredit %sCredit %s%s %s %s, %s%s %s, %s%s %s(%s)%s␠ | |
13:44 | no fun | |
13:44 | LeeJ | :O |
13:45 | * LeeJ | backs away from translation very slowly |
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13:45 | AndrewIsh | Hey all. Can someone advise me on schema changes. Should the patch be marked with "DO NOT APPLY" or similar? I gather that used to be the way it was done, but I'm not seeing anything on the Database Updates wiki page, so am not sure |
13:46 | cait | I think 'do not push' maybe |
13:47 | because applying for the testers is fine | |
13:48 | LeeJ | cait: side note..breaking up those chapters really made a difference when looking for something specific in the HTML copy |
13:49 | Joubu | cait: yes it's hard to catch on QA, we should think about a way to find them before push |
13:50 | (translations) | |
13:51 | AndrewIsh | OK, thanks cait |
13:53 | cait | Joubu: actually it's not all bad |
13:53 | it means I have some kind of context there and know that they will work together | |
13:53 | just the word fine somewhere would be harder | |
13:53 | still not ideal | |
13:56 | tcohen | hi |
13:56 | wahanui | bidet, tcohen |
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14:11 | cait | OAuth2 client credentials grant |
14:11 | * cait | cries a little trying to phrase that in German |
14:14 | LeeJ | cait: OAuth2-Client-Berechtigungsnachweis gewähren |
14:14 | eythian | surely it's just one word |
14:14 | LeeJ | cait: does that help? :P |
14:14 | cait | a little :) |
14:14 | sorry for complaining :) | |
14:14 | LeeJ | cait: that's what I'm here for :) |
14:15 | cait: Google translate has never failed me! Especially in recent years when they've added being able to select alternate translations :) | |
14:15 | cait | never failed would go too far |
14:15 | LeeJ | haha |
14:15 | at least in my experience anyway :) | |
14:15 | cait | but i remember a former koha develoer who asked me if I was using google translate to communicate with you all |
14:16 | * eythian | prefers deepl for many things |
14:16 | cait | and my question back was: is my english really that terrible? |
14:16 | eythian | https://www.deepl.com/translator often gets translations surprisingly good |
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14:16 | LeeJ | cait: your English is better than many academics at my university |
14:17 | cait | oi :) |
14:18 | LeeJ | we're getting a rapidly increasing number of international professors |
14:18 | for example, in the Fall semester starting in August I'll be hopefully taking classes with 2 Chinese professors and 1 Nigerian professor :) | |
14:19 | cait | ah :) |
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14:35 | cait | are client id/key and client id/secret different things? |
14:35 | tcohen: ? | |
14:36 | tcohen | client_id and client_secret |
14:37 | cait | i meant key and secret :) |
14:37 | because both appear int ranslations and was not sure | |
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14:41 | AndrewIsh | Can anyone point me to a good example of how Koha sanitizes user input? I'm specifically looking for examples of sanitizing input prior to database storage, I want to stay consistent with whatever approach is currently in use. |
14:42 | I have been poking around looking for examples, but failed to find any thus far | |
14:43 | cait | what kind of sanitation? |
14:45 | AndrewIsh | cait: Sanitization of user input, e.g. removing undesirable markup or scripting. I just discovered C4::Scrubber, which appears to be a wrapper around HTML::Scrubber. Looks like that might be what I've been searching for |
14:45 | cait | i know it's used by tags |
14:45 | not sure if somewhere else | |
14:46 | AndrewIsh | Here, apparently: |
14:46 | opac/opac-suggestions.pl:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | opac/opac-review.pl:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | opac/svc/checkout_notes:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | opac/opac-issue-note.pl:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | opac/opac-memberentry.pl:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | opac/opac-tags.pl:use C4::Scrubber; | |
14:46 | cait | ah cool |
14:46 | LeeJ | #TheMoreYouKnow |
14:46 | AndrewIsh | Looks like that should fit the bill, thanks cait |
14:51 | cait | ⌘ < some apple key? |
14:51 | Joubu | you certainly want to store what the user entered then display the string escaped |
14:51 | AndrewIsh: ^ | |
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14:52 | oleonard | cait: ⌘ represents the "command" key on a Mac, formerly the "Apple" key. It typically replaces "Ctrl" in Mac keyboard shortcuts. |
14:53 | cait | thx :) |
14:53 | oleonard++ | |
14:54 | AndrewIsh | Joubu: Looking at, for example opac/opac-issue-note.pl, C4::Scrubber::scrub is called on a note field. Which, looking at http://search.cpan.org/~nigelm[…]/HTML/Scrubber.pm appears to remove the unwanted content. I too am sanitizing a notes field, so was going to follow the example of opac-issue-note.pl |
14:59 | tcohen | drojf: I just picked libhttp-oai-perl from jessie |
14:59 | what was the way to build specific versions of cpan moduleS? | |
15:01 | reiveune | bye |
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15:03 | tcohen | cait: you should talk about client ID and secret I think |
15:04 | the first attempt from jajm (from which I borrowed the code) had a different (than OAuth2) terminology | |
15:04 | and we ight be inconsistent on that regard | |
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15:05 | tcohen | ashimema++ # Relase Maintainer! |
15:05 | cait | it's alright |
15:05 | just wondering | |
15:05 | tcohen | just giving you info |
15:05 | cait | yep thx |
15:29 | kidclamp | jajm++ |
15:39 | drojf | tcohen: you can use --version with dh-make-perl i think. what i did is dget -x with the dsc file that is in jessie |
15:44 | * oleonard | bbl |
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15:54 | NateC | Hi Everyone!! |
15:55 | Who is the best person to refer someone to who is having issues with general mailing list? Wizzyrea? Rangi? | |
15:57 | * LeeJ | would like to thank the devs who provide detailed information about system preferences in bug reports |
15:58 | * ashimema | takes note to give better detail info for such patches in the future ;) |
15:58 | LeeJ | ashimema: :D |
15:59 | but really though...it makes it such a smoother process if we don't have to go through potentially hundreds of comments to find information about what something does :) | |
15:59 | ashimema: for the record, it's primarily important for new features and enhancements : | |
15:59 | :) | |
16:00 | cait | ashimema: even better to submit a patch to the manual :) |
16:01 | bag | mailing lists? |
16:01 | wahanui | mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
16:02 | LeeJ | what cait said! |
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16:09 | ashimema | I'm still not sure about doc process to be honest.. It would be good to submit manual patches in parallel to the code patches |
16:09 | LeeJ | ashimema: I'm always available for lessons :) |
16:11 | ashimema | It's not the submitting a patch I have problems with.. Gitlab is nicer than bugzilla 😉 and I've used sphinx for a couple of years myself. It's more to do with tying the two things together between a Gitlab PR and a bugzilla patch going through qa etc.. |
16:11 | cait | ashimema: we are using gitlab, you will like it ;) |
16:12 | LeeJ | Joubu: am I correct in my understanding that the BrowseResultSelection syspref is OPAC only? Bug 19290 indicates it's for the OPAC but then it appears Bug 10858 points it towards being used in intranet. Basically, should I include the syspref under OPAC or elsewhere? |
16:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19290 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Browse selected biblios - Staff |
16:12 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10858 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Browse selected biblios - OPAC | |
16:14 | Joubu | LeeJ: it's staff only, 10858 will be for OPAC (not pushed yet) |
16:19 | cait | LeeJ: where do I add a taiga task for bug 19794? |
16:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19794 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Rename RLIST - Routing list notice template as it's not related to routing lists |
16:19 | cait | oh i found one actually |
16:34 | LeeJ | Joubu: thanks! |
16:44 | 4 of the new sys prefs documented..only 15 more to go | |
16:45 | cait | LeeJ: looking a bit at the missing sections |
16:45 | some seem alrady in, just mark closed? | |
16:45 | LeeJ | cait: thank you :) |
16:45 | yes please | |
16:46 | cait: if memory serves, the "missing sections" user story was added just for us to migrate all the content from the framapad at the time | |
16:46 | so some of it might be outdated but at least it's all there | |
16:46 | cait | ok :) |
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16:54 | LeeJ | kidclamp++ # for adding detailed info for the novelist staff client syspref :) |
17:00 | * LeeJ | cheers cait on |
17:00 | LeeJ | :D |
17:12 | oleonard joined #koha | |
17:25 | cait | LeeJ: toolbar or tool bar? |
17:27 | * cait | decides on toolbar |
17:28 | oleonard joined #koha | |
17:29 | cait | wb oleonard :) |
17:29 | * oleonard | will try to stay put for a while |
17:30 | LeeJ | hmm |
17:30 | cait: I tried googling tool bar and it suggested toolbar so yes one word :) | |
17:31 | cait | also good :) |
17:31 | LeeJ | cait: it's also one word in computer design so we're good :) |
17:31 | cait: I'm not sure how to handle/split up the two prefs for Bug 20291 | |
17:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a StaffLoginInstructions system preference to add text to the staff client login box |
17:33 | cait | looking |
17:33 | LeeJ | thanks :) |
17:33 | cait | i thnk one is a rename and the other is new? |
17:33 | we renamed the old one to match with the new one | |
17:34 | i'd handle them separately and maybe something like a see also ote to the other? | |
17:34 | LeeJ | variations...ugh lol |
17:35 | cait | hm according to docs # shoudl auto number |
17:35 | but doesn't seem to do it | |
17:35 | maybe something about my spaces | |
17:35 | LeeJ | cait: hm? |
17:36 | cait | numbered lists |
17:36 | :) | |
17:38 | LeeJ | let's see... |
17:45 | I can't find an example of numbered lists..only unordered.. | |
17:47 | cait | i was wondering |
17:47 | in notices there are some lists numbered manually | |
17:47 | LeeJ | >_> |
17:47 | cait | i followed that for now |
17:47 | we can try and clean them up later if we figure it out | |
17:48 | LeeJ | I've been looking in gitlab settings for some sort of key |
17:48 | cait | hm? |
17:50 | ashimema | #. For ordered lists cait |
17:50 | You need the period | |
17:52 | http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/m[…]quote-like-blocks | |
17:52 | LeeJ | ashimema: :O |
17:52 | good find! | |
17:54 | ashimema | As I said.. I've dabbled with sphinx a few time before.. You guys are doing a great job 😀 |
17:58 | LeeJ | thanks ashimema! |
17:59 | cait | ashimema: maybe it was the missing . |
18:00 | yep | |
18:00 | thx | |
18:01 | LeeJ: i will have another brnach with a few patches for you soon | |
18:01 | LeeJ | cait: I'll be looking forward to it! :) |
18:02 | cait | hoping the english is ok |
18:02 | ashimema++ | |
18:02 | totally right about that | |
18:04 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20437: Update debian/control <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]79778c47674c135db> |
18:04 | News from kohagit: Bug 20693: Update control file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]949b4ce9a758d0e9b> | |
18:04 | News from kohagit: Bug 20693: Plack fails, because 'libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl' package is not installed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6414c229da92833db> | |
18:04 | News from kohagit: Bug 20437: Force the dependency on HTTP::OAI < 4.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48de95b307da1c325> | |
18:05 | cait | LeeJ: merge request submitted |
18:05 | LeeJ | okay |
18:07 | cait: merged! Looks great! :) | |
18:07 | cait | wow fast :) |
18:07 | LeeJ | :D |
18:07 | cait | you saw 3 ocmmits right? heh |
18:08 | LeeJ | yep! |
18:09 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]-_Tips_and_Tricks |
18:09 | ordered lists | |
18:10 | LeeJ | cait: I didn't know we already started to put the style guide together! :D |
18:10 | that's awesome | |
18:12 | caroline | cait: you are on fire! :) |
18:13 | LeeJ | so are you caroline! |
18:13 | caroline | not right now, I'm too busy trying to make my marketing guy happy ;) |
18:15 | cait | caroline: just on vacation heh |
18:16 | caroline | cait: you keep busy on vacation! |
18:16 | LeeJ | I have 15 vacation days to use before July 1st :( |
18:16 | cait | so do it :) |
18:16 | LeeJ | I'm a workaholic so it will be hard beinh away so much |
18:16 | cait | is that an english sentence? |
18:16 | This notice is sent to the patron when an article request has been | |
18:16 | made in order to confirm the request. | |
18:16 | caroline | oh no, poor you! ;) |
18:16 | LeeJ | cait: yes it is! |
18:17 | caroline: right?! And then on July 1 I get a fresh batch of leave time for the next year :) | |
18:22 | caroline: by the way, that browse results syspref DOES work after following the test plan...I left the link to it in the task | |
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18:23 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
18:23 | @seen cait | |
18:23 | huginn | mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <cait> made in order to confirm the request. |
18:24 | mtompset | I signed off bug 20706... and tweaked the test I added so it wasn't a hard coded list. :) |
18:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20706 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) |
18:24 | caroline | LeeJ: yes, I saw the link! |
18:25 | It wasn't what I was expecting, i misread the syspref | |
18:25 | mtompset | @seenm LeeJ |
18:25 | huginn | mtompset: downloading the Perl source |
18:25 | mtompset | @seen LeeJ |
18:25 | huginn | mtompset: LeeJ was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <LeeJ> caroline: by the way, that browse results syspref DOES work after following the test plan...I left the link to it in the task |
18:28 | cait | mtompset: cool, trying to find someone to qa |
18:30 | mtompset | And that's why I wrote that crazy test script. |
18:30 | It makes testing easier. :) | |
18:30 | Because checking 190ish pages is a pain! | |
18:33 | cait | also english? This notice is sent to the patron who made a suggestion, when the |
18:33 | 'from a suggestion' option is used to create an order from it. | |
18:33 | drojf | good night #koha |
18:34 | mtompset | The test is currently limited to English, because it scrapes the URL. |
18:35 | If you fail to apply all three patches, the test will fail. :) | |
18:37 | If someone wishes to expand it to across languages, we'd need to add an id attribute into the anchor reference, and then we could scrape it more precisely. :) | |
18:37 | cait | LeeJ: next merge request :) |
18:38 | mtompset: we can't do that at the moment in the gui | |
18:38 | this will be an interim fix, we plan to get rid of the help pages | |
18:38 | for next release | |
18:38 | and link directly to the manual | |
18:39 | * LeeJ | waves to mtompset |
18:41 | LeeJ | cait: merged :) |
18:42 | mtompset | Greetings, LeeJ |
18:42 | LeeJ | mtompset: hiya |
18:44 | cait | yay :) |
18:44 | LeeJ | cait: you're the best :D |
18:45 | cait | nah |
18:46 | oleonard | cait: Yeah-huh. |
18:46 | LeeJ | I second oleonard |
18:46 | cait | hmpf :) |
18:47 | mtompset | I third it, if we even need to go that far. :) |
18:48 | Of course, I live in a world of pink unicorns, and everyone is best. ;) | |
18:48 | -- unless I'm in a bad mood. :) | |
18:54 | cait | LeeJ: can i destroy misc ? |
18:54 | i'd like to move printers into a hardware chapter | |
18:55 | and then i only need to figure out the sysprefs default and the itemtype cataloguing stuff | |
18:55 | LeeJ | cait: I don't see why not as long as each subsection in misc is accounted for elsewhere :) |
18:56 | cait | i think it's a pet peeve... |
18:56 | it's like receiving support emails named 'misc' | |
18:56 | LeeJ | what is? the misc section? |
18:56 | cait | those are the worst |
18:56 | LeeJ | haha |
18:56 | I agree | |
18:56 | misc is so....vague | |
18:57 | cait | yeah |
18:57 | ok | |
18:57 | the only ones left now are the first and hte last | |
18:57 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]t-the-zebra-index | |
18:58 | (with my patches) | |
18:58 | LeeJ | :D |
18:58 | cait++ | |
18:59 | oleonard | see y'all later |
18:59 | LeeJ | bye oleonard |
18:59 | wahanui | bye oleopard |
19:00 | cait | i am still torn about hte usefulness of the pref defaults |
19:00 | LeeJ | cait: do you know the reasoning behind them being there? |
19:00 | cait | i guess to help people misconfiguring theirs |
19:01 | i feel the item types might fit into a catalouging help thing | |
19:01 | LeeJ | cait: perhaps have the defaults moved to the wiki then add a link to the top of the syspref section linking to it? |
19:04 | cait | maybe |
19:04 | i think i found a good spot for the xslt material type icons | |
19:04 | catalouging guides | |
19:04 | LeeJ | yay! |
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19:21 | cait | work for you |
19:26 | LeeJ | already merged :) |
19:26 | FYI my power might go out here...extremely bad thunderstorms and tornado watches :-\ | |
19:27 | cait | last one is still open :) |
19:27 | hm yeah we had some lightning earlier, but not much happened since | |
19:27 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/113 | |
19:27 | caroline | LeeJ: where are you? |
19:28 | LeeJ | caroline: Pennsylvania |
19:28 | cait: now it's actually merged ;) | |
19:30 | caroline | Ugh, I see the storms on the radar. They're thin though, shouldn't last too long |
19:34 | cait | LeeJ: i will move the isbd to the wiki |
19:34 | the formatting has been badly mangled anyway by the conversion of the manual | |
19:34 | line breaks are wrong etc | |
19:34 | hm at least if you want to make it preformatted it needs fixing | |
19:35 | will make a patch, you can take a look then :) | |
19:38 | LeeJ | cait: looking forward to it :) |
19:39 | caroline: right now it's a torrential downpour outside | |
19:39 | :( | |
19:43 | andreashm | LeeJ: ouch. |
19:44 | almost afraid to mention that we have had terrific wether in Sweden the last week. | |
19:45 | LeeJ | @wunder 18509 |
19:45 | huginn | LeeJ: Scranton, PA :: Thunderstorm :: 63F/17C | Tuesday: Strong thunderstorms likely. Damaging winds and large hail with some storms. High 86F. Winds WNW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Tuesday Night: Cloudy. A stray shower or thunderstorm is possible. Low 54F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. |
19:45 | LeeJ | andreashm: >_> |
19:45 | andreashm | @wunder Stockholm |
19:45 | huginn | andreashm: Stockholm, Sweden :: Clear :: 64F/18C | Tuesday: Clear. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Low 48F. Winds light and variable. |
19:46 | LeeJ | that's not nice :( |
19:46 | our weather is bi-polar | |
19:47 | it could be bright and sunny one minute and the next it will be storming | |
19:49 | andreashm | LeeJ: hope it will get better soon! |
19:51 | LeeJ | andreashm: not as much as I do ;) |
19:51 | andreashm | =) |
20:02 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
20:02 | huginn | cait: Konstanz, Germany :: :: NoneF/NoneC | Tuesday: Cloudy, periods of rain. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Tuesday Night: Rain showers early will evolve into a more steady rain overnight. Low 48F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. |
20:04 | cait | LeeJ: it's dead. |
20:04 | LeeJ | lol |
20:05 | cait | i found some links to fix from earlier patches, working on those now, then declaring restructuring finished |
20:05 | LeeJ | ok :) |
20:06 | merged :) | |
20:09 | cait | will send an email to bernardo aboutp o files |
20:09 | i noticed that the po files in the repo are not kept up to date | |
20:09 | not sure how that works right now | |
20:10 | rangi | @later tell natec probably me |
20:10 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
20:11 | * LeeJ | waves to rangi |
20:12 | rangi | heya LeeJ |
20:13 | LeeJ | rangi: so does the docs HTML get automatically updated? Or does something have to be done manually? |
20:13 | rangi | LeeJ: currently it gets done automatically |
20:14 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]s/kohadocs/-/jobs | |
20:14 | LeeJ | rangi: cron based or automatic? |
20:14 | rangi | automatic |
20:14 | see there | |
20:14 | LeeJ | ah |
20:14 | rangi | the CI tool builds and scps the files |
20:14 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]s/-/jobs/68446564 | |
20:15 | LeeJ | gotcha |
20:15 | that's fun to watch lol | |
20:15 | rangi | for each language in the locales |
20:15 | it will do the same on the 17.11 branch too | |
20:15 | (but put them in a different place) | |
20:15 | LeeJ | thanks for the info :) |
20:15 | now I know where to look...just wanted to make sure everything looked right | |
20:16 | rangi | https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/ https://koha-community.org/man[…]18.05/zh_TW/html/ for example |
20:16 | LeeJ | :) |
20:16 | rangi | im not sure if it is still doing the epubs too |
20:17 | https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/epub/ for example | |
20:17 | ah yes, it is doing the epubs too | |
20:17 | so yuo can be all reading them on your kindle and what not | |
20:17 | LeeJ | cait has been doing a great job of helping clean up the manual...she got rid of the misc chapter :D |
20:18 | rangi | yay! |
20:18 | misc has no place ever in anything | |
20:18 | :) | |
20:18 | LeeJ | exactly! |
20:18 | andreashm | cait++ |
20:18 | rangi | cait++ |
20:18 | cait | happy that people share my opinion about misc :) |
20:18 | rangi | LeeJ: will you be doing a talk on documentation stuff at kohacon? |
20:19 | LeeJ | rangi: if I could have afforded the trip I would have :( |
20:19 | rangi | i reckon a live demo of editing it, as part of the main conf, might help show how not tricky it is |
20:19 | ahh bummer | |
20:19 | i wonder who else I can convince to do that | |
20:19 | :) | |
20:19 | LeeJ | haha |
20:20 | how many usually attend kohacon? | |
20:22 | cait | depends a bit on the place |
20:22 | greece where almost 250 i think | |
20:23 | LeeJ | I'd love to try to have my campus host it sometime..just have to figure out how to pitch it to the ones in charge :) |
20:24 | rangi | i think this one should be pretty biggish |
20:24 | cait | ok, fixed link |
20:24 | no more spotted for the moment | |
20:24 | rangi | speaking of which we need to start proposals for 2019 |
20:24 | 2020 NZ | |
20:25 | (20th birthday back home :)) | |
20:25 | LeeJ | cait: merged! :) looks good as usual! |
20:26 | rangi: yay! | |
20:26 | cait | LeeJ: taiga question |
20:26 | LeeJ | cait: hm? |
20:26 | cait | now all tasks of my user story are finished |
20:26 | why does it still show in progress? | |
20:26 | https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]hadocs-1805/epics | |
20:26 | LeeJ | which story were you doing? cleanup? |
20:27 | cait | documenation housekeeping > break up... |
20:27 | rangi | ohhh you are in scranton LeeJ? so probably 2021 next chance for US again :) |
20:27 | LeeJ | rangi: :D |
20:29 | I'll talk to people to see if we can submit a proposal for then :) | |
20:29 | rangi | :) |
20:29 | LeeJ | cait: looking now.. |
20:29 | caroline | LeeJ, cait isn't it that you have to manually change the status of the user story? |
20:30 | cait | I was looking for that but didn't spot it |
20:30 | LeeJ | I'm adding a new Closed status now |
20:30 | andreashm | rangi: is the time for 2019 proposals soon? |
20:30 | (going back to the KohaCon discussion) | |
20:31 | rangi | andreashm: i reckon now! |
20:31 | what i would do | |
20:31 | * andreashm | was under the impression it would be for the fall. for some reason |
20:31 | rangi | its already winter! :) |
20:31 | andreashm | hehe... |
20:31 | wahanui | it has been said that hehe is that a bad thing or a good thing? ;-) |
20:31 | rangi | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon18_Proposals |
20:32 | copy that page and start a kohacon19_proposals one | |
20:32 | and put it on the agenda for the next meeting | |
20:32 | the longer people have, the more people can come etc | |
20:32 | andreashm | oh, mid january. that was early. |
20:33 | * andreashm | would prefer to have it after summer. lots of work for the end of the semester |
20:33 | andreashm | (GDPR and all) |
20:33 | LeeJ | cait: I'll look tomorrow...I need to head out while there's a break in the weather |
20:33 | andreashm | Just talking for ourselves of course. =) |
20:33 | rangi | you kinda want it decided with as much time to give people chance to start getting funding etc |
20:33 | LeeJ | night all! |
20:33 | wahanui | goodnight LeeJ. You'll be back. |
20:33 | cait | np :) |
20:34 | night LeeJ | |
20:34 | andreashm | rangi: yeah, of course. |
20:34 | rangi | andreashm: yeah, but just putting up a bit of a placeholder with your names in .. is a good start |
20:34 | andreashm | but there need to be some time to put together a proposal too. |
20:34 | rangi | yep |
20:34 | indicating that you're going to pull one together is a good idea tho | |
20:34 | andreashm | we are |
20:35 | we will, perhaps I should write | |
20:35 | rangi | yep, so id do a page, with "Sweden" "details to come" |
20:35 | andreashm | rangi: cool. that much we can do, after all. =) |
20:35 | rangi | and put kohacon19 on the agenda for next irc meeting so that people can start discussing timelines (maybe note prefer voting in august or something) |
20:36 | caroline | kohacon19 is going to be in Sweden? |
20:36 | rangi | maybe :) |
20:36 | andreashm | caroline: we hope so. =) |
20:36 | cait | being the first to put a hand up is not a bad thing :) |
20:36 | caroline | cool! I'll start saving $$ :) |
20:37 | * andreashm | puts both hands up |
20:37 | rangi | heh |
20:37 | andreashm | lots of Swedes coming to Portland this year too. The Swedish User Group has travel grants. looking forward to it! |
20:38 | (KohaCon, not the grants) | |
20:38 | rangi | excellent, first beer (or beverage of your choice) is on me |
20:38 | andreashm | rangi: looking forward to that too! |
20:38 | second is on me. | |
20:38 | rangi | :) |
20:40 | * andreashm | goes over to the wiki to add a page |
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21:04 | andreashm | So, a page is up: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]hacon19_Proposals |
21:06 | rangi | yay! |
21:12 | magnuse | w00t! |
21:13 | andreashm++ | |
21:14 | andreashm | ok, now of to bed. bye #koha |
21:16 | ashimema | cait++ for removing misc |
21:16 | Kohacon19 plans already aye.. Blimey | |
21:17 | Wasn't there already also talk from Ireland and Norway for proposals for next conf | |
21:22 | magnuse | norway has mostly been me talking about how cool it would be to have kohacon in the new library in oslo sometime after they open, i think |
21:22 | curently, the date for that is sometime in 2020 | |
21:23 | so 2021 at the earliest | |
21:23 | and 2022 if sweden gets 2019 | |
21:23 | caroline | How does the rotation work? One year per continent? |
21:24 | rangi | not on the same continent within 3 |
21:24 | greece 2016 means europe 2019 is ok | |
21:25 | magnuse | so if europe gets 2019, the next time it can be in europe is 2022 |
21:25 | rangi | yep |
21:25 | caroline | ok! |
21:25 | rangi | usa now, next earliest time in north american is 2021 |
21:25 | means it moves around the world more | |
21:25 | magnuse | and i hope we all agree that nz can host in 2020 if they want to :-) |
21:25 | rangi | its been 10 years since oceania :) |
21:26 | cait | yah :) |
21:26 | rangi | oceanania ? i |
21:26 | i forget how to spell it | |
21:26 | magnuse | i think you nailed it the first time :-) |
21:27 | rangi | we've done all the continents except antartica |
21:27 | :) | |
21:27 | caroline | No Koha libraries there so far, I guess |
21:27 | * magnuse | would want to go to kohacon in antarctica |
21:27 | rangi | there are 2 libraries there |
21:28 | so maybe in the future one will use Koha :) | |
21:28 | magnuse | no reason for them not to use it! :-) |
21:28 | rangi | it's been proven to work in the cold |
21:29 | by public libraries in nunavut ;) | |
21:29 | and you artic circle folks :) | |
21:30 | more mundane question | |
21:30 | cait | hehe |
21:30 | a nice slogan | |
21:30 | proven to work in the cold | |
21:30 | * magnuse | does not have any customers north of the arctic circle yet, but is working on it |
21:30 | rangi | has anyone done a plugin thingy for the cataloguing interface, that when you change a dropdown on one subfield, it changes the values in another drop down |
21:30 | caroline | Well, I'm off to my nephew's 17th birthday bbq (17 already, i feel so old). Good night everyone! |
21:30 | rangi | good night caroline |
21:31 | magnuse | have fun caroline |
21:31 | cait | bye caroline:) |
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21:31 | rangi | what im talking about is you put a topic, then a subtopic, and that subtopic list changes based on the topic you picked |
21:31 | cait | all i can think of is the way some of the 00x plugins work |
21:31 | rangi | im pretty sure I can write it with js, but was wondering if someone had already done something |
21:31 | cait | but that's not quite the same |
21:32 | it should be possible it hink so too | |
21:32 | rangi | cool |
21:32 | cait | but there it's happening inside the plugin |
21:32 | rangi | yeah |
21:32 | ill take a look | |
21:33 | magnuse | g'night #koha! |
21:34 | ashimema | Nighty night #koha |
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