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| 00:33 | mtompset | @seen alexbuckley |
| 00:33 | huginn | mtompset: alexbuckley was last seen in #koha 6 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <alexbuckley> hey aleisha. Are you still in Bali or back in NZ now? |
| 00:33 | alexbuckley | hi |
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| 02:46 | mtompset | Well, I best call it a day. I need to be reading assignments to "mark". |
| 02:47 | Have a great day, #koha alexbuckley :) | |
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| 02:58 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
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| 06:35 | rangi | evening |
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| 06:51 | alex_ | bonjour |
| 06:56 | magnuse | morning |
| 06:57 | alex_ | hello magnuse |
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| 07:14 | magnuse | bonjour alex_ |
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| 07:21 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:21 | wahanui | kia ora, gaetan_B |
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| 07:29 | shohl | moin moin |
| 07:36 | cait | good morning |
| 07:36 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 07:36 | cait | ssh wahanui |
| 07:36 | wahanui botsnack breakfast | |
| 07:36 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 07:37 | cait | #koha still waking up I guess |
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| 07:41 | fridolin | hi there |
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| 07:55 | cait | hi all |
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| 08:34 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 10:13 | nlegrand | Good day #koha |
| 10:15 | magnuse | hiya nlegrand |
| 10:16 | tiffin time! | |
| 10:33 | nlegrand | ay up magnuse |
| 10:47 | cait | Joubu: pointed at you for end of string freeze/translation period on the koha-translate list... hope it'sok :) |
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| 11:08 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 11:08 | hi kidclamp new RM | |
| 11:09 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 11:09 | marcelr | khall around ? |
| 11:09 | khall | yo |
| 11:10 | marcelr | hey khall does your signoff on 11943 count as a pqa ? |
| 11:10 | it is the second signoff | |
| 11:10 | khall | marcelr: yep! |
| 11:10 | marcelr | do you change or should I |
| 11:11 | khall | oh, that one |
| 11:11 | marcelr | the double accepts on shared lists |
| 11:12 | khall | I didn't set to pqa since nick was the signer, but if you are fine with that you can definitely consider my so was pqa : ) |
| 11:12 | marcelr | ok |
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| 11:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:32 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
| 11:32 | wahanui | hi dear loon |
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| 12:57 | magnuse | development meeting in about 1 hour? |
| 13:00 | oleonard | That's what my digital assistant has just told me. |
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| 13:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:47 | josef_moravec | hi tcohen |
| 13:48 | tcohen | hi josef_moravec |
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| 14:00 | kidclamp | meeting? |
| 14:00 | wahanui | meeting is in two days, i thought was tomorrow. plenty of time then |
| 14:00 | oleonard | wahanui no |
| 14:00 | wahanui | http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018 |
| 14:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 9 14:01:10 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_9_may_2018' |
| 14:01 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 14:01 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
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| 14:01 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:01 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_9_May_2018 | |
| 14:01 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:01 | davbo_ | #info David Bourgault, Solutions InLibro |
| 14:01 | cc_ | #info Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe Ltd |
| 14:01 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy |
| 14:01 | blou | #info Philippe Blouin, Solutions inLibro |
| 14:02 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
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| 14:02 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:03 | oleonard | cait? calire? josef_moravec? |
| 14:03 | Joubu | qa_team? |
| 14:03 | wahanui | well, qa_team is alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec |
| 14:03 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 14:03 | wahanui | rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) |
| 14:03 | oleonard | tuxayo? |
| 14:03 | fridolin | hi there |
| 14:03 | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France | |
| 14:04 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:04 | coming out of another meeting, sorry to be late | |
| 14:04 | tuxayo | hi! |
| 14:04 | #info Victor Grousset, BibLibre, France | |
| 14:04 | * fridolin | has proposed to maintain 17.11.x after 18.05 release |
| 14:05 | tuxayo | thanks oleonard :D |
| 14:05 | fridolin | keeping maintaining oldstable |
| 14:05 | calire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:05 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 14:05 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:06 | kidclamp | anyone? |
| 14:06 | wahanui | Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | is ready to dump piles of patches on y'all as part of Bug 20654 |
| 14:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid |
| 14:07 | calire | oleonard++ |
| 14:07 | cait | more piles of patches? oy |
| 14:07 | kidclamp | #topic Update from the Release manager (18.05) |
| 14:07 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (18.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | Mr Joubu |
| 14:08 | Joubu | 18.05 will be released quite soon |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | confetti! |
| 14:08 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 14:08 | Joubu | we are in string freeze already |
| 14:08 | khall | oleonard+++ indeed! |
| 14:08 | Joubu | *but* |
| 14:08 | I am going to make an exception and push the OAuth patchset | |
| 14:09 | certainly today | |
| 14:09 | cait | +1 |
| 14:09 | * oleonard | mutters Seems like all my friends have a big *but* |
| 14:09 | tcohen | +1 |
| 14:09 | Joubu | people should focus on signoff/qa of bugfixes |
| 14:09 | and catch bugs | |
| 14:09 | cait | i think the strings involved there will be ok until the .01 |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 14:09 | Joubu | it's not useful to rebase or dev new enhancements ;) |
| 14:09 | cait | ther are some patches for the marc freameworks that don't involve translation |
| 14:09 | Joubu | a side note about 18.11: we really need release maintainers |
| 14:10 | and that's all for me | |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | #info 18.05 release in string freeze but exception being made for OAuth patches, please focus on bugs and testing |
| 14:10 | cait | i think it might be nice to be up to the latest standard with release |
| 14:10 | i signed off the first, waiting for qa *hint* :) | |
| 14:10 | kidclamp | bug number cait? |
| 14:11 | cait | sec |
| 14:11 | tuxayo | Joubu: " we really need release maintainers" : at least 18.05 Or is 17.05 really needed also? |
| 14:11 | Joubu | ha, it would be nice to have bug 20720 into 18.05 (I will not have time to write a patch) |
| 14:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page |
| 14:12 | cait | bug 19835 |
| 14:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Update MARC frameworks to Updates 23+24+25 (Nov 2016, May and Dec 2017) |
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| 14:12 | Joubu | tuxayo: we should maintain at least 3 stable releases. |
| 14:12 | cait | bug 20710 |
| 14:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20710 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Update MARC21 frameworks to Update 26 (April 2018) |
| 14:12 | Joubu | but if everybody is willing to run master, it's fine by me |
| 14:13 | fridolin | ^^ |
| 14:13 | kidclamp | #info please look at bugs 20270 19835 20710 for release |
| 14:13 | moving on? | |
| 14:13 | cait | 18.05 and 17.11 is needed, we could drop 17.05 if noone is willing to |
| 14:13 | but it would be much nicer to have 3 | |
| 14:13 | fridolin | +1 |
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| 14:14 | tcohen | hi rangi |
| 14:14 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:14 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:14 | kidclamp | I am going to ush some this week before string freeze, will try not o leave a mess for frido :-) |
| 14:14 | tuxayo | Joubu: Indeed, if many people will stay stuck on 17.05 that would be useful: https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences |
| 14:14 | Or could it be an incentive to upgrade to not have 17.05 maintained? (just a idea, not sure if good at all) | |
| 14:16 | * kidclamp | points at khall |
| 14:16 | khall | yes, I'd be willing to rmaint 17.05 |
| 14:16 | Joubu | ashimema_: ? |
| 14:17 | marcelr | khall++ |
| 14:17 | tcohen | khall++ |
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| 14:17 | cait | so what's our lineup? 18.05? |
| 14:17 | tcohen | we need someone for 18.05 |
| 14:17 | ? | |
| 14:17 | Joubu | ashimema is volunteering |
| 14:18 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec, library Ústí nad Orlicí |
| 14:18 | I am late, sorry | |
| 14:18 | khall | kk |
| 14:19 | kidclamp | #info kidlcmap will push for 17.11 this week |
| 14:19 | any notes frido? | |
| 14:19 | fridolin | Joubu: is Bug 20144 for stable branches also ? |
| 14:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20144 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Test suite is failing with new default SQL modes |
| 14:19 | cait | still confused, but think people will hopefully sign up on the wiki :) |
| 14:20 | Joubu | fridolin: nope (yet) |
| 14:20 | fridolin | I m not proposing for RMaint 18.05 i will not have enough time |
| 14:20 | oki cool (so much patches) | |
| 14:20 | * fridolin | is ok |
| 14:20 | kidclamp | #action ashimema has (been?) volunteered for 18.05 RMaint - he should update the wiki :-D |
| 14:21 | Joubu | (Martin asked me few days ago how he could help for 18.11, and if he could be RMaint, that's why I said that) |
| 14:21 | (we will catch him when he will be around) | |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | moving on |
| 14:21 | fridolin | ashimema++ |
| 14:21 | * tuxayo | prepares a net to catch ashimema |
| 14:22 | kidclamp | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:22 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:22 | cait | work load wise the newer the more work |
| 14:22 | fridolin | prepare beers for that |
| 14:23 | kidclamp | cait |
| 14:24 | cait | Nothing much |
| 14:24 | what Joubu said, focus now should be on bug fixes mostly | |
| 14:24 | anything that is needed to get us to the release | |
| 14:25 | and then we will start over, there are some quite big featues in the queue that we will need to tackel after release | |
| 14:25 | stock rotation, mana and recalls to name some | |
| 14:25 | kidclamp | - #info cait says fix all the bugs or she won't qa your patches anymore ever |
| 14:25 | cait | happy to see we have quite a good team ready for the next release |
| 14:25 | true | |
| 14:26 | never ever again ;) | |
| 14:26 | kidclamp | #info QA please focus on bugs, after release there are big patches to look towards |
| 14:26 | * Joubu | is going to remove the "Database Documentation Manager" role |
| 14:26 | cait | can i jump in with a releas team question? |
| 14:26 | tcohen++ signed up for module maintainer rest api | |
| 14:26 | which i thin is a great thing | |
| 14:26 | tcohen | thanks |
| 14:27 | cait | maybe we could also find someone to coordinate elasticsearch? |
| 14:27 | tcohen | I think the RM will be very involved |
| 14:27 | kidclamp | clrh_ |
| 14:27 | Joubu | kidclamp is doing it |
| 14:27 | cait | right now we have a lot of bugs and patches waiting, but i don't see how they depend on eacho ther clearly and what is most urgent |
| 14:27 | someone to coordinate that woudl be great | |
| 14:27 | kidclamp | I will, but some help too |
| 14:27 | cait | keeping the big picture |
| 14:27 | kidclamp++ | |
| 14:27 | greenjimll | #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University |
| 14:28 | cait | all from me then, qa_team? |
| 14:28 | qa team? | |
| 14:28 | wahanui | i think qa team is hunting all the bugs! |
| 14:28 | cait | hm. |
| 14:28 | marcelr | cait++ |
| 14:28 | cait | you know who you are |
| 14:28 | kidclamp | been trying to point out conflicts and guide, clrh_ doc has been helpful we should update it for 18.11 goals |
| 14:28 | moving on | |
| 14:28 | cait | maybe a most important elasticsearch bug for the weekly qa email? :) |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 14:29 | #info kidclamp will corordinate ES efforts for 18.11 - may tap individuals for help along the way | |
| 14:29 | Joubu | maybe it's time to contribute to the what's on in koha-devel? |
| 14:29 | kidclamp | also +1 |
| 14:30 | Joubu | https://annuel2.framapad.org/p[…]_on_in_koha-devel |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:30 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:30 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:31 | But only lurking.. On school run duties | |
| 14:31 | tuxayo | "what's on in koha-devel" Oh great idea! :D |
| 14:31 | Joubu | irony? |
| 14:31 | wahanui | well, irony is of course that he learns it all from humans. ;) |
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| 14:32 | kidclamp | #topic Way to authenticate patron for REST API - what about Bug 17004 |
| 14:32 | Topic for #koha is now Way to authenticate patron for REST API - what about Bug 17004 (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17004 enhancement, P3, ---, lari.taskula, In Discussion , REST API: add route to authenticate patron (Single Sign On - SSO) |
| 14:32 | fridolin | miam miam |
| 14:33 | kidclamp | lari tcohen jajm ^ |
| 14:33 | greenjimll | In "whats on in koha devel" is it worth mentioning trying to sweep up old bugs/ideas? |
| 14:33 | tcohen | is marcelr around? |
| 14:33 | tuxayo | Joubu: "irony": no no no, not at all. It's nice to contribute that less people (including me) are out of the loop |
| 14:34 | marcelr | yes tcohen |
| 14:34 | josef_moravec | .I added it, we need an easy way to authenticate a patron by username and password |
| 14:34 | kidclamp | #link https://annuel2.framapad.org/p[…]_on_in_koha-devel To contribute for 'What's on in koha devel" |
| 14:34 | tcohen | the main problem with that proposal is that is just replicating the current cookie based authentication we have |
| 14:35 | fridolin | i think jajm is at the beach |
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| 14:35 | tcohen | I'm not against having it for people needing it, but the goal is to have full support for other OAuth2 flows |
| 14:36 | greenjimll | confidential client OAuth2 flows so that back end servers can use it for bulk updates? |
| 14:36 | tcohen | I mean, until we cover the other flows, we could replace the current controller scripts with this kind of endpoint, but it is a short-term thing |
| 14:36 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, BWS |
| 14:36 | tcohen | greenjimll: that's probably getting into 18.05 already |
| 14:37 | this one is for generating session cookies | |
| 14:37 | greenjimll | tcohen: Great - that's really useful for systems integration. |
| 14:37 | tcohen | which could be in turn used for that |
| 14:37 | separate thing | |
| 14:38 | the thing is we don't have that many hands working on this things | |
| 14:38 | so, where to put the energy | |
| 14:39 | I wouldn't block this dev as the way we currently deal with OAuth authentication is far from standard-ish (we do oauth2 for google, but generate a session cookie instead of using the token, etc) | |
| 14:39 | there's a long road to go | |
| 14:39 | josef_moravec | ok, I will try to think about it more for next time, this was requirement from an external API user, but with full OAuth2 flow, we could maybe do it better... |
| 14:40 | tcohen | ashimema: thoughts? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | thoughts are that this might help us fix a lot of extended-unicode bugs |
| 14:40 | kidclamp | #info bug 17004 may be covered by OAuth developments - involved parties should talk about coordinating :-) |
| 14:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17004 enhancement, P3, ---, lari.taskula, In Discussion , REST API: add route to authenticate patron (Single Sign On - SSO) |
| 14:40 | tcohen | right |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | moving on but feel free to continuye discussion |
| 14:41 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 14:41 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | #topic HTML8: use Asset TT plugin for linking javascript and css files |
| 14:41 | Topic for #koha is now HTML8: use Asset TT plugin for linking javascript and css files (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:41 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ipt_and_css_files Use Asset TT plugin for linking js and css files |
| 14:41 | josef_moravec | does make sense, thanks tcohen and others for discussion! |
| 14:42 | Joubu | this one is pushed already actually, I did not know we had to vote it :) |
| 14:42 | kidclamp | we better vote yes then :-) |
| 14:42 | josef_moravec | bug 20538 |
| 14:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Remove the need of writing [% KOHA_VERSION %] everywhere |
| 14:42 | tcohen | we are voting the guidelines change, which is ok |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | #startvote should we adopt coding guideline HTML8 as written? |
| 14:43 | huginn | Begin voting on: should we adopt coding guideline HTML8 as written? Valid vote options are Yes, No. |
| 14:43 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:43 | kidclamp | #vote Yes |
| 14:43 | oleonard | #vote Yes |
| 14:43 | josef_moravec | #vote yes |
| 14:43 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 14:43 | greenjimll | #vote Yes |
| 14:43 | marcelr | #vote yes |
| 14:44 | calire | #vote Yes |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | last call |
| 14:44 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | #endvote |
| 14:44 | huginn | Voted on "should we adopt coding guideline HTML8 as written?" Results are |
| 14:44 | kidclamp | #info 8 yes, unanimous |
| 14:44 | tuxayo | #vote Yes |
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| 14:45 | kidclamp | #topic PERL17.1 Unit tests should be grouped into sensible subtests that create their own data. |
| 14:45 | Topic for #koha is now PERL17.1 Unit tests should be grouped into sensible subtests that create their own data. (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:46 | * tuxayo | curses the latency of using an IRC bridge (from Matrix/Riot) instead of actually being on IRC |
| 14:46 | Joubu | I think cait added after a discussion with me |
| 14:46 | it should be applied strictly, but the idea is to have 1 subtest for 1 method | |
| 14:46 | tcohen | Joubu: we've been kind of enforcing it on QA |
| 14:46 | Joubu | unless 2 methods are strongly linked and it will need to dup too much code to test them separated into 2 subtests |
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| 14:47 | Joubu | tcohen: yes, that's why cait wanted it in the guidelines |
| 14:47 | kidclamp | yes, while it easier to add a test using existing data, it is harder to fix/maintain |
| 14:47 | tcohen | would it involve having the transaction inside the subtest? |
| 14:47 | marcelr | ¨unless we have good reasons to do otherwise¨ :) |
| 14:47 | josef_moravec | marcelr++ |
| 14:48 | tcohen | TestBuilder helped get here |
| 14:48 | Joubu | basically, in 90% of the time, if you add a new method, add a separate subtest, see t/db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t for an example |
| 14:48 | tcohen | before, it was a pain |
| 14:48 | Joubu | and it's still a pain |
| 14:48 | kidclamp | is there a proposed rule (i.e. what's the wording?) |
| 14:49 | tcohen | yohann++ |
| 14:49 | * tcohen | volunteers to write it as a draft (with examples, etc) for voting next dev meeting |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | #action tcohen will draft a rule (with examples and qa escape clause) |
| 14:50 | #topic Proposal: Officially apply Perl indentation rules to all file types. 4-space indentation for new/changed templates, JS, CSS, etc. -- oleonard | |
| 14:50 | Topic for #koha is now Proposal: Officially apply Perl indentation rules to all file types. 4-space indentation for new/changed templates, JS, CSS, etc. -- oleonard (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 14:50 | kidclamp | oleonard? |
| 14:50 | wahanui | hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 14:51 | * kidclamp | wishes so hard |
| 14:51 | oleonard | We've got a lot of templates, especially newer ones, with two-space indentation. The rules aren't very clear because they only refer to Perl scripts |
| 14:51 | I'd prefer that we make the rule global | |
| 14:52 | marcelr | what about changes? |
| 14:52 | lots of files with indentation troubles | |
| 14:52 | oleonard | Re-indent changed lines, just like we've done with files that have tab indentation |
| 14:53 | Joubu | popcorn time |
| 14:53 | marcelr | may be not that simple in a bad template |
| 14:53 | Joubu | same as previously for this rule, it should not be applied strictly: |
| 14:54 | 1. new file: 4 spaces | |
| 14:54 | 2. changes in existing and dirty files should be: | |
| 14:54 | 2a: use the same identation as the block you are editing (unless it's tab) | |
| 14:54 | 2b: there is not b actually | |
| 14:55 | tcohen | the .editorconfig file should probably be updated |
| 14:55 | oleonard | I think the choice is pretty simple: Either the 4-space indentation is global or: it isn't, and there's no standard at all for other file types. |
| 14:56 | ...because if someone wants to say the rule for .tt is two spaces we've got the same argument and ALSO two different standards. | |
| 14:56 | marcelr | i am all for a relaxed migration to four spaces ;) |
| 14:56 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 14:56 | #chair tcohen Joubu | |
| 14:56 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu kidclamp tcohen |
| 14:57 | greenjimll | I experienced this yesterday playing with basketgroup.tt. I tried to make my changes fit in with what was already there but its a pain with mixed HTML and Perl in the templates. |
| 14:57 | thd | Relaxed and provision for exceptions when files have extensive indentation. |
| 14:57 | * tcohen | secretly loves to shift 2 spaces left TT-specific lines to be able to read HTML more clearly |
| 14:57 | kidclamp | I have to run, good luck all |
| 14:57 | tcohen | kidclamp: how could you do this to us |
| 14:57 | marcelr | stay and talk about tabs |
| 14:58 | thd | Exceptions should be noted as a comment in the file header. |
| 14:58 | oleonard | Shall we vote? |
| 14:58 | marcelr | +1 |
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| 14:58 | thd | s/extensive/extensive levels of/ |
| 14:59 | greenjimll | Whichever way we vote I guarantee I'll keep getting it wrong. :-) |
| 14:59 | tuxayo | I vote Yes for the proposal of voting |
| 14:59 | * ashimema | frantically tries to catch up now he's back from the school run |
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| 15:00 | marcelr | ashimema: you are Rmaint in the meantime :) |
| 15:00 | my vote is Yes for 4 spaces | |
| 15:00 | * tuxayo | throws a net on ashimema_ |
| 15:01 | Joubu | Is everybody waiting for kidclamp to write the vote proposal? |
| 15:01 | because he left | |
| 15:01 | marcelr | the chair left :) |
| 15:01 | tcohen | #startvote should we adopt 4-space indentation globally? |
| 15:01 | huginn | Begin voting on: should we adopt 4-space indentation globally? Valid vote options are Yes, No. |
| 15:01 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 15:01 | marcelr | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | tcohen | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | cc_ | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | greenjimll | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | ashimema | Indeed.. that somewhat caught me by surprise.. I hadn't realised the boss had actually volunteered me.. we'd had the chat but I didn't realise it had reached it's conclusion ;) |
| 15:01 | all good | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #vote no |
| 15:01 | tuxayo | #vote Yes |
| 15:01 | * ashimema | likes 2 space indentation for perl personally |
| 15:02 | Joubu | lol |
| 15:02 | tcohen | ashimema: LOL but that's not under discussion hehe |
| 15:02 | * ashimema | uses the mojolicious projects perltidy config for all projects other than Koha to date.. |
| 15:02 | ashimema | #vote no |
| 15:03 | lol | |
| 15:03 | tcohen | ok |
| 15:03 | Joubu | I am voting no because it should be applied strictly. ok for new files, new blocks, not to add a 4 spaces alignement inside a 2 space align block |
| 15:03 | tuxayo | Should the vote have been between various alternatives? |
| 15:03 | Joubu | maybe it's a yes then |
| 15:04 | * thd | prefers tab indentation which may appear as two spaces in editor but I think that is a lost position in Koha. |
| 15:04 | tcohen | Joubu: you agree, you are talking about how we phase into that |
| 15:05 | thd: anyone can 'see' it as they like with tabs | |
| 15:05 | ok | |
| 15:05 | josef_moravec | #vote yes |
| 15:05 | tcohen | #endvote |
| 15:05 | huginn | Voted on " should we adopt 4-space indentation globally?" Results are |
| 15:05 | thd | tcohen: Exactly, which is why I like tabs. |
| 15:06 | tuxayo | thd: tcohen : With tabs we loose some possibilities of alignment which require a fixed size |
| 15:06 | tcohen | coward |
| 15:06 | greenjimll | So does this now mean we've a "you touch it, you fix it" rule for tweaking indentation in existing files? |
| 15:07 | tcohen | #info Yes: 7, No: 2 |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | But the balance could still be in favor of tabs is the pros are heavier |
| 15:07 | Joubu | nothing else? |
| 15:07 | wahanui | nothing else is priority |
| 15:07 | Joubu | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 15:07 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 15:07 | thd | tuxayo: It would be fixed according to however you set your view of tabs or am I missing something? |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | greenjimll: what is "it": whole file, method, block, line? |
| 15:08 | thd | Did we vote about about any issue of strict or relaxed? |
| 15:09 | Joubu | Next meeting: 23 May 2018, 19, 20, 21 UTC? |
| 15:09 | greenjimll | tuxayo: Good question. What I was playing with yesterday did bits all over basketgroup.tt and basketgroup.pl. Having to fix the whole file would be a pain, but it would fit in with the "strict spacing". |
| 15:09 | thd | 20 is now better for me most of the time. |
| 15:10 | Joubu | last dev meeting at 21, we were 3... |
| 15:10 | tuxayo | thd "Did we vote about about any issue of strict or relaxed" |
| 15:10 | greenjimll | Before we close the meeting are we going to decide on what the 4 space rule applies to when making patches? |
| 15:10 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 15:11 | thd | 19 would be even better for me but perhaps not for others. |
| 15:12 | greenjimll | 20 or 21 UTC for me. |
| 15:12 | Joubu | #Next meeting: 23 May 2018, 20UTC? |
| 15:12 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:12 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 15:12 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 9 15:12:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:12 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-09-14.01.html | |
| 15:12 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-05-09-14.01.txt | |
| 15:12 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-14.01.log.html | |
| 15:13 | thd | Do we vote on strict vs. relaxed or defer to the question to the next meeting? |
| 15:13 | greenjimll | So we've ended the meeting without deciding on the strict/relaxed spacing when patching existing files? |
| 15:14 | tuxayo | or we leave it to QAers appreciation? |
| 15:14 | Joubu | yes, not that important |
| 15:14 | thd | greenjimll: You may need to add it to the agenda for the next meeting if needed. |
| 15:15 | greenjimll | Considering the meeting has finished now, we'll have to! |
| 15:15 | tuxayo | Leaving it to QAers seems the default choice. And we will see how it goes after some experience enforcing the guideline. |
| 15:15 | Joubu | are you sure we need to talk about space indentation for weeks? |
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| 15:16 | greenjimll | Fair enough. As I said, whatever I do will be wrong, guaranteed. :-) |
| 15:16 | So just do what I don't. :-) | |
| 15:16 | thd | I like the QA deference approach until there is a real problem. |
| 15:16 | * oleonard | got knocked offline :( |
| 15:16 | didn't get to vote on his own issue | |
| 15:17 | Joubu | oleonard: we voted "tabs everywhere" |
| 15:17 | fridolin | and CRLF has end of line |
| 15:17 | * thd | will be converting spaces to tabs for viewing in the editor then converting them back for writing out the file. |
| 15:17 | fridolin | ^^ |
| 15:18 | oleonard | 凸(>皿<)凸 |
| 15:18 | greenjimll | I'm just going to get rid of all the indentation and put all the perl on one line. :-) |
| 15:18 | * oleonard | brb |
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| 15:18 | tuxayo | thd: "It would be fixed according to however you set your view of tabs or am I missing something?" : When you have a lot if methods params of argument. |
| 15:18 | You can put them vertically and align them. Have a variable spacing with tabs settings wouldn't cause much trouble though. There should be other case but nothing really big. | |
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| 15:19 | marcelr | tcohen: could you add your qa mark to 20695; much obliged.. |
| 15:19 | tuxayo | Joubu: +1 better focus on other gaps in the guidelines rather that these details as long as it's not an issue. |
| 15:20 | caroline_ | oleonard: did you leave to go scream in a pillow? ;) |
| 15:20 | oleonard | :D |
| 15:20 | marcelr | Joubu: what happened with 19436, not pushed.. |
| 15:20 | tuxayo | cait: still around? |
| 15:21 | marcelr | have to go now; bye #koha |
| 15:21 | thd | tuxayo: I see that you are considering views other than a programming editor where how tabs display may not be well controlled by the user and thus may not be fixed by the user in any way. |
| 15:23 | tuxayo | thd: indeed there is that. But I was thinking about the case of some alignments wouldn't make sense anymore depending of the settings of one's text editor |
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| 15:26 | KSorbo[ | How does one apply a bug fix patch to an existing site? |
| 15:27 | I experience the problem dealt with in this bug: | |
| 15:27 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20693 | |
| 15:27 | huginn | Bug 20693: blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, REOPENED , Plack fails, because 'libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl' package is not installed |
| 15:27 | thd | tuxayo: Yes, I am mostly at peace with converting indentations to whatever pleases in the editor except for trouble overcoming the editor automatically marking the file as modified. |
| 15:27 | KSorbo[ | I have no perl experience. How do I apply this patch to my site? |
| 15:30 | Guest1726 | Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #95: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/95/ |
| 15:30 | m.de.rooy: Bug 20227: Check for categorycode in default_borrower_circ_rules | |
| 15:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20227 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , admin/smart-rules.pl should pass categorycode instead of branchcode |
| 15:31 | thd | KSorbol: The manner for applying the patch depends on whether you are using koha packages in a particular GNU/Linux distribution. |
| 15:32 | greenjimll | KSorbo[: In this case you might want to just try installing the package `libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl` by hand if its stopping you from installing the rest of Koha. |
| 15:34 | thd | KSorbol: The patch merely adds 4 lines of code and you could simply use the patch command. |
| 15:34 | greenjimll | KSorbo[: actually, looking at the diff install the packages `libplack-perl` and `libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl` as that's what the patch is doing (for the debian control files) |
| 15:35 | oleonard | https://css-tricks.com/words-a[…]ticle-header-id-2 |
| 15:37 | KSorbo[ | <thd> I am using packages from Ubuntu 16.04 |
| 15:37 | thd | KSorbol: What greenjimll wrote allows you to apply the solution of the patch without rebuilding koha for installation. |
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| 15:38 | KSorbo[ | If I patch those files by hand, how do I get the system to reload all the dependencies, etc? |
| 15:39 | thd | KSorbo[: greenjimll has suggested that you may simply install the packages he listed with apt-get install $whateverPackagename . |
| 15:40 | greenjimll | You can use `apt-get install libplack-perl libcgi-emulate-psgi-perl` and then install Koha as you would normally. That patch is fixing dependencies in the packing, which you'll satisfy anyway once those two packages are installed. |
| 15:40 | KSorbo[ | Thanks. I'll give that a try |
| 15:40 | thd | KSorbol: No need to rebuild as far as I know. Merely install the two packages. |
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| 15:58 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20073: Update DBIC Schema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]023c444df7a7f3cff> |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20734: Add warning to the about page if RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials and not Net... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]553d235164186c245> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20568: fix shebang <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b5fbaa7dd1c2a8a8> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20568: Fix bad resolution conflict with bug 18403 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d80ab16f2cc2366fc> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: DBRev 17.12.00.044 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]357acc8096bef06ed> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20568: DBRev 17.12.00.043 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df74b922db235b8b6> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer is not a hard dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cb22e0fc98ba2f312> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Add missing POD in Koha::REST::V1::OAuth <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0fc9d81f83186ba3> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20612: (QA follow-up) Fix typo in method POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff8f35b9c2b8aebb9> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Remove unused vars <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4d9ff3a4bd93e330> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Handle missing deps gracefuly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6b8fd685843eb562> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Unit tests for missing deps situation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49bc47fcc7faf7674> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: Make staff client respect RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb9d73f88851507fb> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: Make /api/v1/oauth/token respect RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0487f5c1654c686f> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a922faf19a69336c8> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20624: Add RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70cdcd1c8f623233b> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Remove api-key management from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6208b380cc184c28> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20612: koha-conf.xml cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7346331f93670062c> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20612: Make OAuth2 use patron's client_id/secret pairs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]03074caf5eff7ec52> | |
| 15:58 | News from kohagit: Bug 20612: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4d29154cc54ec5e4> | |
| 15:59 | Joubu | here we go |
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| 16:08 | bag | good morning |
| 16:08 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 16:09 | cait | hi bag :) |
| 16:09 | bag | heya cait |
| 16:10 | caroline_ | wow, wahanui is so glum today... |
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| 16:31 | Guest1726 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #468: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/468/ |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20525: Add --timezone switch to koha-create | |
| 16:31 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API | |
| 16:31 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Fix oauth.t | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20525 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add --timezone switch to koha-create |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Don't look at cookies if OAuth2 is attempted and has failed |
| 16:31 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Remove dependency on Mojo::Plugin::OAuth2::Server | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20402 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , OAuth2 client credentials grant for REST API |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Use TestBuilder->build_object in oauth.t |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20402: Atomic update and kohastructure.sql fixes | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20402: Add missing POD | |
| 16:31 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20402: Remove useless call to Koha::OAuthAccessTokens->search | |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20402: only output if verbose flag is set | |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20402: DBRev 17.12.00.042 | |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20402: Update DBIX schema | |
| 16:31 | * julian.maurice: Bug 20568: API keys management in interface | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: Add mandatory description field for api keys | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20568 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add API key management interface for patrons |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: Unit tests |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: API key management for OPAC users | |
| 16:31 | * oleonard: Bug 20568: (follow-up) Interface and markup changes | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: Move value => client_id + secret | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (follow-up) Atomic update fix | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Test client_id and secret are not overwritten | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Make sure client_id and secret are not | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Get rid of the id column | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: CSRF protection | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Remove api-key management from OPAC | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20568: (QA follow-up) Remove unused vars | |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20568: Fix bad resolution conflict with bug 18403 | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Hide patron information if not part of the logged in user library group |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20568: fix shebang |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20568: DBRev 17.12.00.043 | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20612: Unit tests | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20612: Make OAuth2 use patron's client_id/secret pairs | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Make OAuth2 use patron's client_id/secret pairs |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20612: koha-conf.xml cleanup |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20612: (QA follow-up) Fix typo in method POD | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: Add RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials syspref | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: Unit tests | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20624 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Disable the OAuth2 client credentials grant by default |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: Make /api/v1/oauth/token respect RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: Make staff client respect RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Unit tests for missing deps situation | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Handle missing deps gracefuly | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: (QA follow-up) Add missing POD in Koha::REST::V1::OAuth | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20624: Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer is not a hard dependency | |
| 16:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20624: DBRev 17.12.00.044 | |
| 16:31 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20734: Add warning to the about page if RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials | |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20734 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add warning to the about page if RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials and not Net::OAuth2::AuthorizationServer |
| 16:31 | Guest1726 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20073: Update DBIC Schema changes |
| 16:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20073 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to Master , Move Elasticsearch settings to configuration files |
| 16:34 | tuxayo | bye #koha! |
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| 17:00 | Joubu | khall: are you around? |
| 17:00 | bug 20724 scares me a bit | |
| 17:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" |
| 17:01 | khall | what's up Joubu ? |
| 17:01 | Joubu | khall: Is reserves.expirationdate supposed to be set when placing a hold and no expiration date is selected? |
| 17:03 | khall | Joubu: not that I'm aware of |
| 17:03 | however, it should be set for waiting holds where there is a max pickup delay | |
| 17:06 | Joubu | ok, it's because of ReservesNeedReturns |
| 17:06 | bug 20724 | |
| 17:06 | bug 12011 | |
| 17:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" |
| 17:06 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12011 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns breaks 'Hold Filled' functionality | |
| 17:06 | Joubu | bug 20423 |
| 17:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns allows multiple patrons to have the same item set to 'waiting' |
| 17:06 | Joubu | I guess they are all duplicate |
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| 17:13 | tuxayo | thanks for you help about BZ 20724 |
| 17:14 | BZ 20423 reproduces in 16.11 if I'm not mistaken. So they shouldn't be linked. | |
| 17:14 | Joubu: ↑ | |
| 17:27 | * oleonard | updated 15 screenshots on the wiki and is now exhausted |
| 17:33 | Joubu | khall: I have submitted a patch on bug 20724. Do you think it's the good way to fix the problem? |
| 17:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20724 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, In Discussion , ReservesNeedReturns syspref breaks "Holds awaiting pickup" |
| 17:34 | khall | I'll take a look Joubu |
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| 18:26 | * oleonard | still hopes to get this design polished http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/15223413373574 |
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| 18:36 | saiful | hi |
| 18:38 | tcohen | hi |
| 18:39 | * cait | waves |
| 18:39 | tuxayo | oleonard++ |
| 18:39 | looks great :) | |
| 18:40 | saiful | thanks to barton for giving heads up on submitting patches |
| 18:45 | i setup kohadevbox on my win8pro laptop with vagrant with sync_repo option. i got the error message at the end "Koha instance is empty, no staff user created.", which i think fine. | |
| 18:45 | https://gist.github.com/saiful[…]203c7dcb90e0f7088 | |
| 18:46 | it says that "Ansible failed to complete successfully." i don't think it's a failure since koha was indeed installed. am i right? | |
| 18:47 | tcohen | that's ok saiful |
| 18:47 | its a known problem | |
| 18:47 | just do | |
| 18:47 | vagrant provision | |
| 18:47 | same command but provision instead of up | |
| 18:47 | saiful | thanks |
| 18:48 | tcohen | it will continue |
| 18:48 | where it left | |
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| 18:49 | cait | looks great oleonard - what's your little search box on top for? |
| 18:50 | oleonard | I have some custom JS I run on my devbox that puts a system preferences search there |
| 18:52 | cait | nice :) |
| 18:56 | * oleonard | curses Microsoft for being utterly incapable of making a decent browser |
| 19:01 | oleonard | Bye all |
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| 19:26 | barton | you're welcome saiful, thanks for your work on... uh. that bug. (it's been a long day) :-) |
| 19:27 | saiful++ | |
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| 20:43 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 20:43 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
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| 20:56 | caroline_ | Hi LeeJ! |
| 20:56 | LeeJ | hi caroline_! |
| 20:58 | we'll start at 5 after | |
| 20:58 | caroline_ | no worries. I have plenty of stuff to do! ;) |
| 20:58 | LeeJ | don't we all! ;) |
| 20:59 | davidnind | LeeJ: Apologies for the task think (combining multiple bugs into one Taiga task), should have sent a message about it! |
| 21:00 | LeeJ | davidnind: no problem at all! I just try to keep the numbers matching up :) |
| 21:01 | davidnind | A challenge all buy itself! |
| 21:01 | buy s/be by.... | |
| 21:03 | * cait1 | waves |
| 21:04 | cait1 | hi all |
| 21:04 | caroline_ | Hi cait1! |
| 21:04 | alexbuckley_ | hi cait1 |
| 21:05 | LeeJ | alrighty! |
| 21:05 | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018 | |
| 21:05 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 9 21:05:37 2018 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:05 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:05 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:05 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2018' |
| 21:05 | LeeJ | #topic Introductions |
| 21:05 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:05 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:06 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 21:06 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
| 21:06 | caroline_ | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
| 21:06 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 21:06 | georgew | #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 21:06 | LeeJ | #topic What's been done so far |
| 21:06 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:07 | LeeJ | alright, as of this morning I've gotten tasks created for everything current per the release notes |
| 21:07 | cait1 | LeeJ++ |
| 21:07 | davidnind | LeeJ++ |
| 21:07 | LeeJ | #info the kohadocs Taiga project is current as of Release Notes 17.12.00.044 |
| 21:08 | #info currently in queue to be added to the documentation are 11 new features, 257 enhancements, and 19 new system preferences | |
| 21:08 | yes I did, in fact, count them all ;) | |
| 21:08 | caroline_ | hehe! |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | caroline_: would you like to mention the work that you and your team have accomplished for documentation so far? I saw you've been very busy |
| 21:09 | and cait1 your work too :) | |
| 21:09 | caroline_ | um... Well, I'm the only one doing doc on my team |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | caroline_: I meant in general :) |
| 21:10 | caroline_ | Ah ok! |
| 21:10 | Yes, Every friday afternoon the whole team does what we call "community work" | |
| 21:10 | So I either translate of doc, and the devs work on bugs or sign offs | |
| 21:11 | translate OR doc, I meant | |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | caroline_++ |
| 21:11 | cait1 | Inlibro++ |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | Inlibro++ |
| 21:11 | caroline_ | thanks! :D |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | cait1: care to share with everyone all the "restructuring" you've been working on? :) |
| 21:11 | cait1 | I've been working on restructuring a bit |
| 21:12 | one of the goals being to make the files smaller | |
| 21:12 | which will also help translators I think | |
| 21:12 | another thing is that the TOCs get easier to handle | |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | cait1++ |
| 21:13 | cait1 | like by splitting administration into system preferences and 'rest' we lost one level of headings |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | which is a BIG deal :D |
| 21:13 | cait1 | which i think helps to make them a little more readable/easier to navigate |
| 21:13 | or i hope so :) | |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | and less syntax to remember :) |
| 21:13 | cait1 | next i've been working on splitting the next big chapter |
| 21:13 | misecellanous | |
| 21:14 | let me find a link quickly | |
| 21:14 | georgew | smaller chapters will be a lot easier on end users |
| 21:14 | LeeJ | I agree georgew |
| 21:14 | cait1 | i hope my changes so far are agreeable :) |
| 21:14 | LeeJ | especially since a lot of small, specific sections have been buried deep in larger files |
| 21:14 | cait1 | miscellanous was not linked from Koha |
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| 21:15 | LeeJ | cait1: I agree with them! Otherwise they wouldn't get pushed ;D |
| 21:15 | cait1 | but we also removed the numbering from the file names (to not have to renumber them all the time) |
| 21:15 | so I needed to fix the links in Koha | |
| 21:15 | bug 20706 | |
| 21:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20706 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Fix links to help files for changed file structure (removed numbering on files) |
| 21:15 | cait1 | we need to make one more change there and add back the en language codes int he files for the time being |
| 21:15 | LeeJ | cait1: would you mind adding some quick info tags for the notes? :) |
| 21:15 | cait1 | otherwise links won't work right |
| 21:16 | LeeJ | *notes/minutes |
| 21:16 | cait1 | #info bug 20706 needs sign-off / qa - It's to adapt the links in Koha to the new file structure |
| 21:16 | #info administration has been split into prefs and rest | |
| 21:16 | #info miscellanous has been split into multiple files now, like links, faq, extending_koha | |
| 21:16 | i need some more help there | |
| 21:17 | LeeJ | what help do you need? |
| 21:17 | cait1 | 1) can we lose the serials sample ins favor of the wiki page caroline started? |
| 21:17 | LeeJ | cait1: have a link to that wiki page? never knew about it |
| 21:18 | cait1 | 2) Move 'OCLC connextion gateway', 'Talking Tech' and 'MarcEdit' into a new chapter 'Using third party software wit Koha' ? |
| 21:18 | caroline_ | Didn't we already have this conversation a while back? |
| 21:18 | cait1 | 3) Move SIP2 and LDAP sections into a new chapter 'Other APIs and protocols' right below the 'Web services' chapter? |
| 21:18 | caroline_ | We voted on wiki vs manual for something |
| 21:18 | cait1 | caroline_: i was not sure how to proceed, maybe i forgot |
| 21:18 | ah for faq | |
| 21:18 | we decided on the manual i tihnk | |
| 21:18 | georgew | The vot on wiki vs manuals was for faq |
| 21:18 | caroline_ | ah ok thanks! |
| 21:19 | cait1 | we could also imagine moving them into the serials chapter |
| 21:19 | caroline_ | I would move the link to the wiki in the serials chapter |
| 21:19 | LeeJ | I think caroline_ has a good idea |
| 21:19 | cait1 | sorry, can you epxlain? |
| 21:19 | caroline_ | number 2 and 3 are fine by me |
| 21:20 | well removing the serials sample section | |
| 21:20 | cait1 | was not sure about the naming of the chapters, 2) and 3) has a patch ready to go then :) |
| 21:20 | caroline_ | and just putting the link "for examples see ..." in the serials chapter |
| 21:20 | the link to the wiki I mean | |
| 21:20 | cait1 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]l_Pattern_Library Serial pattern library |
| 21:20 | ok | |
| 21:20 | :) | |
| 21:20 | one reason i'd remove it righ tnow is i am not sure if all the examples are still correct | |
| 21:21 | i think the wiki is the better source atm | |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | didn't know about that serial wiki... |
| 21:21 | KSorbo[ | Question on Server Specs: |
| 21:21 | caroline_ | I can check that friday if you want |
| 21:21 | check if the samples are still ok | |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | KSorbo[: we're in the middle of a meeting...if you can wait a few minutes we'll be happy to help you |
| 21:21 | cait1 | caroline_: I am pretty sure yours are correct, meant te ones in the manual :) |
| 21:22 | caroline_ | that's what I meant! |
| 21:22 | cait1 | ah sorry |
| 21:22 | caroline_ | I will check and copy them to the wiki |
| 21:22 | cait1 | my brain is a little tired tonight :) |
| 21:22 | caroline_: thx! | |
| 21:22 | KSorbo[ | I have a Ubuntu 16.04 test server with 512M and 1 CPU with 1G swapfile. Koha is very slow, taking 10-15 secs on any screen. What am I doing wrong? Does perl require more cpu/memory than this? |
| 21:22 | caroline_ | and then I'll remove the chapter |
| 21:22 | LeeJ | #topic Workflows |
| 21:22 | Topic for #koha is now Workflows (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:22 | cait1 | ok |
| 21:22 | last one | |
| 21:22 | wahanui | rumour has it last one is the first one if you look backwards |
| 21:22 | KSorbo[ | (SORRY) |
| 21:23 | cait1 | the chapter with the isbd defualts |
| 21:23 | is that helpful? | |
| 21:23 | could we move it? | |
| 21:23 | LeeJ | cait1: I honestly have no opinion on it |
| 21:23 | cait1 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]iscellaneous.html |
| 21:23 | hm didn't quite link | |
| 21:23 | i think i ciould get that somewhere i have all 'misc' sorted out | |
| 21:24 | the isbd defaults and Koha XSLT Item Types | |
| 21:24 | caroline_ | https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml#isbd-defaults |
| 21:24 | cait1 | yep |
| 21:24 | if you got a good idea, let me know please :) | |
| 21:24 | caroline_ | I have no idea what those mean... |
| 21:25 | Is it for the sys prefs when they say to use default or leave blank? | |
| 21:25 | if we put default it's going to use this? | |
| 21:26 | nooo! cait come back! ;) | |
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| 21:26 | cait | sorry, had to restart the laptop:( |
| 21:26 | frozen | |
| 21:27 | caroline_ | can you see the history or do you need me to copy/paste my questions? |
| 21:27 | cait | just checed history |
| 21:27 | it's the default values for the ibsd sysprefs | |
| 21:27 | LeeJ | cait caroline_are there any other "stray" or "out of place" sections in the manual that could be grouped with the ISBD defaults? |
| 21:27 | cait | when you install koha out of the box |
| 21:27 | the xslt item types ones maybe | |
| 21:27 | lost all my tabs now :( | |
| 21:28 | but i am not even sure if the defaults are current, i am not checking content much right now, just trying to sort | |
| 21:28 | caroline_ | could we just make a page for those defaults and link them from the sys prefs chapter? |
| 21:28 | cait | https://koha-community.org/man[…]a-xslt-item-types |
| 21:29 | we could move them into a new chapter, but htat would mean a very small one :) | |
| 21:29 | caroline_ | that way, they wouldn't be a "chapter", but still accessible for ppl who want to know what the defaults are |
| 21:29 | cait | i am not sure if that works with the way the manual is |
| 21:29 | as soon as you add a file to the index.rst it appears in the table of contents | |
| 21:29 | adding a hidden page might be problematic | |
| 21:30 | caroline_ | ah, then it won't work. |
| 21:30 | cait | we could slip then into faq? |
| 21:30 | them | |
| 21:30 | the itemtypes could also go under cataloguing maybe | |
| 21:30 | caroline_ | is that where the db codes are? |
| 21:30 | in the faq? | |
| 21:30 | cait | i haven't checked closely yet |
| 21:31 | hm i will suggest something | |
| 21:31 | i think i got some ideas now | |
| 21:32 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu maybe we can promote timezone per-instance as a new feature? same for 'supporting emojis'. It feels like they are hidden in the release notes, but very important though |
| 21:32 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:33 | cait | tcohen: you are disrupting a docs meeting ;) |
| 21:33 | LeeJ: move on? | |
| 21:33 | LeeJ | cait caroline_: it seems we have a bit of discussion to do for it, but since they've been in the same place for so long, what say we bench the discussion until next docs release and leave ISBD as is |
| 21:33 | ? | |
| 21:33 | caroline_ | ok |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | #action some documentation section moves (specifically ISBD) will be benched until next release cycle |
| 21:34 | georgew | Sorry, I had to answer an emergency phone call, but are there any other big unweildy defaults like the ISBD defaults? Is there a potential for putting default settings like that in a chapter of ther own? |
| 21:34 | cait | i'd just wanted to try and reach some kind of 'stable' files number so the translations can be fixed for it :) |
| 21:34 | georgew | And leaving them where they are till the next version is a great idea too, LeeJ |
| 21:35 | cait | georgew: i couldn't come up with others so far |
| 21:35 | LeeJ | alright, if no one has anything else let's move on |
| 21:35 | georgew | It almost seems like something you'd see in an appendix or endnotes if this were a physical book |
| 21:35 | cait | the issue is that I'd like to kill the misc chapter, but i will work out a suggestion |
| 21:35 | LeeJ | #topic Next steps |
| 21:35 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:36 | LeeJ | alright, now that my final exams concluded as of this morning I can dedicate 100% of my time to documentation until the release date |
| 21:36 | caroline_ | LeeJ+ congrats! |
| 21:36 | LeeJ | so I'm going to send out an email sometime on Sunday regarding a sprint week for next week |
| 21:36 | cait | woohoo and congrats! |
| 21:36 | LeeJ | caroline_: thanks! |
| 21:36 | sound good to everyone? | |
| 21:37 | cait | yes |
| 21:37 | georgew | yes |
| 21:37 | davidnind | sounds good |
| 21:37 | LeeJ | nice! |
| 21:37 | caroline_ | I don't know what awaits me next week, but I'll try! |
| 21:37 | cait | I should be able to spend a lot of a day next week |
| 21:37 | LeeJ | caroline_: no worries! you've been a great help this whole time :) |
| 21:37 | georgew | if we do it after Tuesday I'll devote an entire workday to it |
| 21:37 | * tcohen | is sorry |
| 21:38 | LeeJ | #action LeeJ will be sending out an email Sunday about the week of May 13 - 19 as a sprint week |
| 21:38 | * LeeJ | thinks tcohen should be ashamed of himself ;) |
| 21:39 | LeeJ | alright, I think that about wraps up everything :) |
| 21:39 | tcohen | LeeJ: hhe |
| 21:39 | LeeJ | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 21:39 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2018) | |
| 21:40 | LeeJ | how does June 16th or 17th at the same time work for everyone? if anyone is still interested in helping after the release ;) |
| 21:41 | georgew | June 17 would be awesome |
| 21:41 | cait | this is quite late, but i can mak eit work |
| 21:41 | could we do an hour earlier maybe? | |
| 21:41 | LeeJ | perhaps we can do 14 UTC instead? |
| 21:41 | I don't have classes now so I can do whenever now :) | |
| 21:41 | cait | 10pm instead of 11pm :) |
| 21:41 | caroline_ | isn't june 17 a sunday? |
| 21:42 | rangi | morning |
| 21:42 | cait | lol |
| 21:42 | LeeJ | hahah whoops..was looking at may's calendar :P |
| 21:42 | 14th? | |
| 21:42 | wahanui | rumour has it 14th is fine |
| 21:42 | cait | you are so bad with dates :) |
| 21:42 | LeeJ | :( |
| 21:42 | cait | we like you anyways :) |
| 21:42 | LeeJ | :D |
| 21:42 | cait | 14th is fine by me |
| 21:42 | caroline_ | 13 would be better for me or 14 earlier |
| 21:43 | cait | next meetings? |
| 21:43 | wahanui | well, next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 21:43 | cait | no conflicts for both dates |
| 21:43 | LeeJ | how about June 14th at 14 UTC? |
| 21:43 | cait | maybe 13th? |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | ah right |
| 21:44 | 13th at 14 UTC it is! | |
| 21:44 | georgew | see you then |
| 21:44 | caroline_ | works for me |
| 21:44 | cait | thx LeeJ |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | #info Next meeting: 13 June 2018, 14 UTC |
| 21:44 | cait | LeeJ++ |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | #endmeeting |
| 21:44 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 21:44 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 9 21:44:44 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:44 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-09-21.05.html | |
| 21:44 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-05-09-21.05.txt | |
| 21:44 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-21.05.log.html | |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | thanks for coming everyone! |
| 21:44 | davidnind | LeeJ++ |
| 21:44 | caroline_ | see you soon everyone! |
| 21:45 | LeeJ | cait++ caroline_++ davidnind++ georgew++ |
| 21:45 | caroline_ left #koha | |
| 21:45 | davidnind left #koha | |
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