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| 06:53 | alex_ | bonjour |
| 06:53 | wahanui | what's up, alex_ |
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| 06:58 | magnuse | wouldn't it make sense to update borrower.lastseen on circ events too, not just logins? some patrons might login and never borrow anything, others might borrow lots and never log in |
| 06:58 | ....and hiya #koha | |
| 06:59 | rangi | i thought it did the opposite, updated it when circ events, not when logged in? |
| 07:00 | cait | I think logged in was int e bug description |
| 07:00 | not sure without reading the code | |
| 07:00 | hi magnuse and rangi | |
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| 07:01 | rangi | well i just had to do some work on the SIP code to get it to update lastseen when a user logged in, because it was only updating when a circ event happened |
| 07:02 | because if someone is getting a book from overdrive, with auths via SIP, that was never updating the the lastseen | |
| 07:02 | (but if you issued to them in the staff client, or they took an item out via SIP, it did update) | |
| 07:02 | i havent looked at the bug report, but ive read the code ;) at least in 17.11 | |
| 07:03 | magnuse | huh, that is the opposite of what i am seeing... |
| 07:03 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a75d;hb=HEAD#l474 "sub track_login" | |
| 07:04 | rangi | yeah, the SIP code doesnt use that |
| 07:06 | magnuse | lastseen is updated in a "patron info" sip2 request: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e89f;hb=HEAD#l939 |
| 07:07 | as far as i can see that is the only place sip2 updates lastseen? | |
| 07:08 | rangi | yep |
| 07:08 | thats why i had to add code | |
| 07:08 | to make it update when a user logs in | |
| 07:09 | so if you circ something in SIP | |
| 07:09 | it updates last seen | |
| 07:09 | if you just authenticate it doesn't | |
| 07:10 | (expect in the one library I have deployed it in) | |
| 07:10 | cait | both make sense - circ and auth |
| 07:10 | are you filing a bug? | |
| 07:10 | rangi | if i can be bothered |
| 07:10 | with dealing with arguing for ages about it pointlessly | |
| 07:11 | * magnuse | will sign off on it without arguing |
| 07:11 | cait | i'd agree too |
| 07:11 | rangi | :) |
| 07:12 | cait | so you got sign-off and qa.... well, if this qa can figure out how sip works again |
| 07:12 | rangi | but yeah, every time you see (login, circ action) a borrower we should update that column, then its much easier for libraries to find inactive borrowers |
| 07:14 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:14 | rangi | ill try to get time to file the bug, and update the code for master |
| 07:14 | magnuse | that is how i stumbled into it - a library wanting to delete inactive borrowers |
| 07:14 | rangi++ | |
| 07:15 | libraries will be looking for this in light of gdpr | |
| 07:15 | but you also have to turn the syspref on... | |
| 07:17 | rangi | yep, it probably needs a full check to make sure its consistent in SIP and staff and OPAC |
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| 08:31 | severine_q | Good morning #koha :) |
| 08:43 | magnuse | trying to figure out how borrowers.lastseen is updated. so far i have not been able to figure out how it is updated by circ actions (but observing the db tells me it *is* updated in circ actions): https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]orrowers.lastseen |
| 08:45 | severine_q | I always fail when I try to add a schedule task to a saed report, is there someone who could help me ? |
| 08:51 | rangi | magnuse: i did track it down, but I can't remember where I saw it, I think its when you scan the card, not when you issue anything |
| 08:53 | magnuse | ah, ok, i'll investigate in that direction then. thanks :-) |
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| 08:55 | rangi | I might be dreaming :) i'll have a quick look |
| 09:08 | so weird, because afaict it is updating on a circ operation | |
| 09:08 | but darned if i can find where/how | |
| 09:19 | maybe it doesn't now im totally confused :) | |
| 09:25 | ill have to look again in the morning | |
| 09:25 | maybe i was confused and its just SIP, and opac login that update it | |
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| 09:47 | magnuse | rangi: thanks for looking. from bug 16276 it looks like the original intent was only to track logins |
| 09:47 | Bug 16276 - When automatically deleting expired borrowers, make sure they didn't log in recently https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16276 | |
| 09:49 | kidclamp_ | magnuse, I believe it actually updates on every page load |
| 09:49 | magnuse | that would explain the behaviour i saw |
| 09:49 | let me test that | |
| 09:52 | yeah, when i do a checkout, my lastseen is updated, but not the lastseen of the patron | |
| 09:52 | kidclamp | the call is in C4/Auth::checkauth |
| 09:53 | ah, yes, it tracks the logged in user, or the patron when they login - and then it is on every page load | |
| 10:05 | rangi | so it only tracks logins in staff and opac, and only circ events in SIP (currently) |
| 10:06 | * cait | waves |
| 10:06 | rangi | i have a patch to get it track logins in SIP too, we just need to add a bit to CanBookBeIssued |
| 10:06 | to have it update on Circ too | |
| 10:06 | then we will actually have a valid lastseen | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | rangi: nah, in sip2 it currently updates lastseen on "patron information" requests. not circ |
| 10:09 | rangi | yes, but that doesnt get called by a login |
| 10:10 | it does as part of a circ transaction tho | |
| 10:10 | magnuse | it does, if there is a third party service like an ebooks service that authenticates patrons in koha via sip2 |
| 10:10 | rangi | nope it doesnt |
| 10:10 | because thats exactly what I had to patch | |
| 10:11 | magnuse | oh? |
| 10:11 | rangi | they dont ask for patron information |
| 10:11 | magnuse | ah, but there is Bug 18625 - Update borrower last seen from SIP https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18625 |
| 10:11 | kidclamp | bug 18821 |
| 10:11 | magnuse | which is pushed to master for inclusion in 18.05 |
| 10:11 | rangi | ah cool |
| 10:12 | magnuse | Bug 18821 - TrackLastPatronActivity is a performance killer https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821 |
| 10:12 | kidclamp | no huginn? |
| 10:12 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18821 | |
| 10:13 | magnuse | rangi: did you say self check machines will always do "patron info" requests before they do checkout? |
| 10:14 | rangi | I think so, lemme find the patch I did |
| 10:16 | yes thats right | |
| 10:16 | i added an update to check_password | |
| 10:16 | because thats all that things like overdrive do | |
| 10:18 | in C4/SIP/ILS/Patron.pm | |
| 10:18 | so if it sees a valid user with a valid password, it updates lastseen | |
| 10:19 | selfcheck machines rarely require you to use a password, you scan the card and the machine does patron info | |
| 10:19 | and then you start scanning items | |
| 10:20 | hope that makes sense | |
| 10:20 | magnuse | yeah |
| 10:21 | i just tested via telnet, and i could check out a book via sip2 without lastseen getting updated | |
| 10:22 | rangi does your patch do pretty much the same thing as "Bug 18625 - Update borrower last seen from SIP" then? | |
| 10:22 | cait | I think none of ours uses password on the selfcheck... |
| 10:22 | maybeone | |
| 10:23 | rangi | i think that patch is still only doing it in the patron info right magnuse ? |
| 10:23 | magnuse | ah yes, that is true |
| 10:24 | rangi | so nope, still won't catch users using overdrive, or any of the other ones that don't call patron info |
| 10:25 | magnuse | your patch will be a nice addition, then |
| 10:26 | but it leaves us with a question of should we update lastseen on circ events, i think? | |
| 10:27 | and updating lastseen from check_password would hopefully catch logins from third party services via REST API and ILS-DI too | |
| 10:29 | * magnuse | needs food |
| 10:30 | magnuse | rangi: thanks for digging into this, hope i didn't keep you up too far into the night |
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| 10:31 | eythian | hi rangi, magnuse, cait |
| 10:31 | rangi | heya eythian |
| 10:31 | wahanui | hmmm... eythian is Time's Person of the Year for 2006. |
| 10:31 | rangi | magnuse: naw i gotta run some stuff on a clients machine anyway |
| 10:32 | eythian | https://imgur.com/a/EzRn14b <-- the Amsterdam metro is going to become a confusing place for French tourists. |
| 10:40 | rangi | heh |
| 10:40 | eythian: has anyone mentioned there is a rogue brewbar on the campus of the uni that kohacon18 is at? :) | |
| 10:41 | kidclamp | rogue as in the brewery? or an underground/unofficial brewpub? |
| 10:41 | eythian | rangi: heh neat. A friend was making noises recently about organising a trip to Portland, but I haven't heard from him in a while so I dunno what the current plan (if any) is. |
| 10:43 | rangi | as in the brewery kidclamp |
| 10:43 | kidclamp | :-) |
| 10:45 | rangi | kidclamp: https://www.rogue.com/locations/rogue-hall |
| 10:45 | i reckon we should just move the hackfest to there :) | |
| 10:45 | kidclamp | nice, I am a fan of their beers |
| 10:45 | rangi | yep me too |
| 10:45 | kidclamp | I'll have to make a trip to alchemist before i head out and will bring what I can to share |
| 10:46 | https://alchemistbeer.com/ | |
| 10:48 | rangi | nice! I don't think we will have any issues finding good beer in portland too |
| 10:49 | https://pedalbiketours.com/ore[…]oregonbrewerytour | |
| 10:51 | or the more ridiculous https://www.brewgrouppdx.com/brewcycle/ | |
| 10:52 | a 15 seater bike | |
| 10:52 | eythian | everyone local will probably hate you |
| 10:52 | they've banned them from the inner city here | |
| 10:52 | rangi | hehe yeah fair enough, 15 drunk people on a big slow thing |
| 10:52 | eythian | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41830304 |
| 10:53 | yeah exactly | |
| 10:53 | rangi | i think ill probably go for a walking tour |
| 10:53 | theres a behind the scenes one that sounds fun | |
| 10:54 | breakside, unicorn and migration | |
| 10:54 | * eythian | likes a good walking tour |
| 10:57 | rangi | https://www.brewvana.com/tours[…]e-beer-and-donuts <-- its my 3 fave things!! |
| 10:57 | ok, this script has finished running, I should hit the hay | |
| 10:58 | eythian | https://www.indymanbeercon.co.uk/ rangi, if you've got an excuse to go to Manchester, I'm thinking of going to this |
| 10:59 | rangi | oooh that sounds neat |
| 11:00 | right, time for sleep, spotya later | |
| 11:00 | eythian | laters |
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| 11:04 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 11:04 | kidclamp | him |
| 11:04 | hi marcelr | |
| 11:04 | marcelr | hi kidclamp |
| 11:04 | kidclamp: did you see my later on the lists patch? | |
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| 11:05 | kidclamp | hmm..I don't think so, huginn is awol |
| 11:05 | eythian | hi marcelr |
| 11:05 | marcelr | hi eythian |
| 11:06 | kidclamp: yeah huginn did not cooperate.. | |
| 11:06 | kidclamp | wahanui, where's huginn? |
| 11:06 | wahanui | huginn is a bot, not a person. |
| 11:06 | marcelr | let me find it again :) |
| 11:06 | kidclamp: here it is: @later tell kidclamp signed off on 20687, could you plz look at bug 11943 | |
| 11:07 | kidclamp | yes, loooking now |
| 11:07 | marcelr | ah great |
| 11:25 | kidclamp | code looks good marcelr, but patch won't apply |
| 11:25 | marcelr | really |
| 11:25 | they are from friday? | |
| 11:25 | let me try again | |
| 11:26 | kidclamp | wait. lemme try again |
| 11:26 | marcelr | they apply with me |
| 11:27 | kidclamp | yes, helps if I apply to the correct repository |
| 11:27 | marcelr | good point |
| 11:30 | kidclamp | updated |
| 11:30 | marcelr | kidclamp++ |
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| 11:32 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:32 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
| 11:32 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
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| 11:44 | * cait | waves |
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| 13:14 | SoniaB | Hello |
| 13:14 | wahanui | bonjour, SoniaB |
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| 13:15 | marcelr | thx khall |
| 13:15 | khall | np! |
| 13:18 | SoniaB | I'm trying to configure article requests and I have a look to the manual : the second step is "Set to Enable patrons to place article requests." but I can't find where I have to do that. Is someone know how to do ? |
| 13:20 | marcelr | SoniaB: look at circulation rules at the right end |
| 13:21 | you can set it for patron types etc. | |
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| 13:24 | SoniaB | marcelr: thks, I've seen that but as it appeers few lines later in the manual and I couldn't do a request even if I change this in the circulation rules, I thought that I have miss something else... |
| 13:25 | marcelr | khall: btw was that an additional signoff or a qa ? you did not change status.. |
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| 13:34 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 13:34 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 13:36 | Joubu: around? | |
| 13:37 | Joubu | Hi LeeJ, #koha |
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| 13:37 | LeeJ | Joubu: just need confirmation..we're standardizing all kohadocs screenshots to be fully in English yes? |
| 13:39 | * cait | waves |
| 13:39 | * LeeJ | waves to cait |
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| 13:41 | LeeJ | Joubu cait are these valid screenshots? Or should all text on it be in English? https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]equests/104/diffs |
| 13:42 | Joubu | lol |
| 13:43 | No idea for the screenshots questions... | |
| 13:43 | cait | looking now |
| 13:43 | LeeJ | thankss |
| 13:43 | cait | hm good question |
| 13:43 | LeeJ | didn't want to merge until I checked :) |
| 13:43 | cait | i think library names and records can be non-english |
| 13:43 | bit more critical for patron category codes and item types | |
| 13:44 | LeeJ | right |
| 13:45 | so I'll ask for screenshot updates before merge :) | |
| 13:48 | cait | i don't have a clear preference, might be nice to use sample data where possible, but for osme things like catalog enrichment it might be not possible easily |
| 13:49 | LeeJ | cait: I just added a comment to the merge request to request English...if there's a problem with her doing them in English I can help with the screenshots..just waiting to see what's said :) |
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| 14:01 | cait | :) |
| 14:01 | caroline++ | |
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| 14:12 | tcohen | morning |
| 14:17 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 14:18 | tcohen | cait: what do you think of bug 20712 |
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| 14:31 | oleonard | gmcharlt: Could you check huginn's alarm clock? |
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| 14:34 | Shane-S | So...I have an electronics and damages questions...does Koha have a way to store damage and repair history and patron assigment |
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| 14:34 | cait | tcohen: dos the translate server work for you? |
| 14:34 | i will check the bug out while you check :) | |
| 14:36 | Shane-S | I ask as I use it to track student chromebooks, but I can't find a good solution out there to monitor damages and repairs and the patron to make a report...like device A is having problems, patron John has had 6 repairs to devices checked out to him |
| 14:36 | cait | tcohen: commented |
| 14:36 | Shane-S: patron notes | |
| 14:37 | tcohen | cait: thanks |
| 14:37 | cait | looking for info |
| 14:37 | tcohen: your part of the deal? | |
| 14:37 | Shane-S | cait: But that isn't really something I can query, as it is just text right? |
| 14:37 | cait | Shane-S: maybe it's checkot notes, lookign for some info on it |
| 14:37 | it's text they can put on the checkoutsin their account | |
| 14:37 | and the library gets an email | |
| 14:38 | i think bywater has a tutorial, but haven't found it yet | |
| 14:39 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:39 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #203: "francharb: oh god… it's complicated" (added by wizzyrea at 03:48 PM, May 08, 2012) |
| 14:39 | tcohen | cait: what do you want? :-D |
| 14:39 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 14:39 | cait | you need to read back :P |
| 14:39 | or checko your pm | |
| 14:39 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:40 | kidclamp_away: possible yourwebsite search doesn't like me? :( | |
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| 14:44 | Shane-S | hmm...would you find a "records" of damages more relevant and reportable then just a notes field? Example cait break her MacBook Pro, I enter it as "damaged" and must fill in a note field and optional costs. Record is made with date/time/patronID/itemID/staffID/note field/costs(maybe have a repaired entry for this). Not sure how relevant that is, I just know I repairs lots of keyboard and screens multiple times. |
| 14:44 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20685: Escape letter template content in textarea <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]57ed769c25b12eb73> |
| 14:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 20663: Add some POD, so koha test tools don't complain <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fb5da7c98a251aeb5> | |
| 14:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 20663: Remove dead code related to compound reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]54416df3202057a5e> | |
| 14:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 19171: Attempt to make "no holds possible" messages less confusing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c4a21b324626528b> | |
| 14:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 20620: Remove warnings in moredetail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]667ed23878bdc208d> | |
| 14:45 | Shane-S | bot lag or just a commit that triggered mass messages? |
| 14:45 | cait | hm maybe not checkout notes then, that would be more for reporting damage |
| 14:46 | the other maybe a custom payment type? | |
| 14:46 | Shane-S | I just didn't a "records" of damages, just the item status |
| 14:48 | I mean books see to be damaged and replaced, not repaired. But electronics can be repairs. Just asking weather it is something that "fits" Koha, or I should look at more specialized software | |
| 14:48 | didn't see a | |
| 14:49 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 14:51 | Shane-S | I am sure you all might like to know my toddler broke Kindle Fire...but wouldn't the history been more helpful...like Shane's kid broke 4 Kindles across 5 Libraries..."DENIED!" If you just saw broke a kindle in an email...and my cute toddler gave you that innocent look and I promised it wouldn't happen again...you might just override it :) |
| 14:51 | and...Kindle number 5...destroyed | |
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| 14:54 | cait | afk |
| 14:54 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 11317: (QA follow-up) Fix merge error and punctuation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3e491d03bf7e013f> |
| 14:55 | tuxayo | Shane-S: wow that's a terrible serial broker story |
| 14:57 | Shane-S | Just an example...if you substitute my toddler with student and kindle with chromebook you have my daily life (no cuteness needed)...its like a pencil...they have to have one |
| 14:58 | Joubu | huginn is not feeling well |
| 14:58 | huginn | Joubu: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 15:05 | kidclamp | hmm cait? |
| 15:05 | wahanui | cait is probably the best friend you could ever have. |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | awwww so cute wahanui |
| 15:07 | oleonard | Bug 20654... 181 of 201 templates changed |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Omnibus: Update two-column templates to use Bootstrap grid |
| 15:07 | oleonard | (but only a few patches submitted) |
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| 15:08 | tuxayo | Shane-S: so much waste :( Especially considering the environmental and social cost of making these things. |
| 15:09 | Guest1726 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #465: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/465/ |
| 15:15 | Shane-S | tuxayo: Well...if the parents cared maybe the kids would too...but they just expect it fixed and given back...and then the parents argue it isn't their kids fault. No one is at fault or responsible these days it seems. |
| 15:16 | Had a student throw once across the room...they got detention..and I asked if I am to repair it..and I was told give them a spare and order a screen. Personally I would have been like here is notebook and pencil...hand write all homework and do all math by hand | |
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| 15:26 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20531: (follow-up) Set the timestamps to the same value to get a correct order <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31363bc9cb0d74b73> |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20284: Fix minor compilation errors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fa29e32c5efe39b9> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20284: (QA follow-up) superlibrarian has ill permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]707bdc1e2ded9a637> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20687: (follow-up) Look for invitekey in show_accept and fix error codes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e3904e6b087b5a9ca> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20687: Check all share keys for a given list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b747807d231d09024> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20686: OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with 'OverDriveCirculation' syspre... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]452a892823eed39e0> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20284: (follow-up) Added missing 'exit's <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5c3b1c28e5baa8199> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20284: ILLModuleCopyrightClearance text breaks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a083202bf8b5d43c> | |
| 15:26 | News from kohagit: Bug 20305: Remove warnings from tools scripts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ec8f72089b4e8626> | |
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| 15:40 | LeeJ | caroline++ |
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| 15:55 | caroline | Is it normal that I get a 503 Unavailable service when I try to go to translate.koha-community.org? Are the strings being updated for 18.05? |
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| 15:59 | Joubu | caroline: I hope it's not normal, you should email Bernardo |
| 15:59 | caroline | ok! |
| 15:59 | Thanks Joubu | |
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| 16:00 | * LeeJ | waves to caroline |
| 16:01 | Guest1726 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #466: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/466/ |
| 16:01 | * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20284: ILLModuleCopyrightClearance text breaks | |
| 16:01 | * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20284: (follow-up) Added missing 'exit's | |
| 16:01 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20284: (QA follow-up) superlibrarian has ill permissions | |
| 16:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20284 major, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Pushed to Master , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC fails with template error if text exists in ILLModuleCopyrightClearance |
| 16:01 | Guest1726 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20284: Fix minor compilation errors |
| 16:01 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 20687: Check all share keys for a given list | |
| 16:01 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 20687: (follow-up) Look for invitekey in show_accept and fix error | |
| 16:01 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20305: Remove warnings from tools scripts | |
| 16:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20687 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Multiple invitations to share lists prevents some users from accepting |
| 16:01 | Guest1726 | * mtj: Bug 20686: OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with |
| 16:01 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20531: (follow-up) Set the timestamps to the same value to get a | |
| 16:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20305 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Warnings in tools scripts need to be removed |
| 16:01 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20686 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , OPAC shows 'Login to OverDrive account' with 'OverDriveCirculation' syspref disabled | |
| 16:01 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20531 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , IssueSlip is failing randomly | |
| 16:01 | Joubu | pfffffffff |
| 16:02 | :s/pfffffffff/happy monday! | |
| 16:02 | caroline | Hi LeeJ ! |
| 16:02 | LeeJ | caroline: you're a documentation superstar :) |
| 16:03 | caroline | Ok, so while I was writing my email to Bernardo, Pootle came back. phew! |
| 16:03 | LeeJ: thanks! :D I finally had some time to do community work last week yay! | |
| 16:03 | tuxayo | caroline: is seems to work now. And it seems there was an operation 20 min ago |
| 16:04 | caroline | Normally the whole team does community work (the devs do mostly bugs or sign offs, and I do translation or doc), but I'd been soooo swamped lately I hadn't had time |
| 16:04 | tuxayo | actually the operation is still in progress. We can see that "things" are happening witht last activity column. http://translate.koha-communit[…]g/projects/18.05/ |
| 16:04 | caroline | the whole team does community work *on friday afternons |
| 16:05 | LeeJ | caroline: I'm very grateful! I'm flailing just trying to keep up with release notes changes as they get added to make sure nothing is missed |
| 16:05 | cait | tcohen: translate seems alive again - even without email :) |
| 16:06 | caroline: same for me :) i had just started writing it | |
| 16:06 | caroline++ docs work | |
| 16:07 | caroline | LeeJ: I can imagine, I see all the "Pushed to master" (which is good but still a lot of work) |
| 16:08 | LeeJ | caroline: thankfully Joubu taught me the trick of just watching the Release Notes gitlab page and just skimming off the top commit each time :) |
| 16:08 | cait | caroline: say thx to your coworkers/company - I've noticed and it's great :) |
| 16:09 | LeeJ | I second cait's comment! |
| 16:10 | caroline: merci beaucoup à vous tous! | |
| 16:11 | (who knew 8 years of French would have the occasional usefulness?) | |
| 16:13 | caroline | LeeJ: lol! pretty good! ;) |
| 16:13 | LeeJ | not bad for being a bit rusty..been away from it for a few years ;) |
| 16:14 | caroline | cait: just passed on the message, thanks so much! :D |
| 16:15 | cait | role model :) |
| 16:18 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20721: (bug 19403 follow-up) Prevent Circulation.t to fail randomly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4617b47acb076970e> |
| 16:18 | LeeJ | well I'm heading out for now..off to a study session for my final exam tomorrow! |
| 16:21 | cait | @later tell LeeJ good luck!! |
| 16:21 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 16:51 | Guest1726 | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:51 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 16:51 | Guest1726 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #467: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/467/ |
| 16:51 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 20721: (bug 19403 follow-up) Prevent Circulation.t to fail randomly | |
| 16:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20721 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation.t keeps failing randomly |
| 16:51 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19403 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Again and again, Circulation.t is failing randomly | |
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| 17:07 | tuxayo | Oh, there is a regression (16.11 ok, 17.11&master KO) on ReservesNeedReturns , is anyone using it? |
| 17:07 | The hold ends up without a expiration date which cause waitingreserves.pl to crash. | |
| 17:08 | Joubu | tuxayo: bug 20423 |
| 17:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns allows multiple patrons to have the same item set to 'waiting' |
| 17:08 | Joubu | maybe? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | maybe is a momentaneous error |
| 17:11 | tuxayo | Joubu: thanks I will check if it reproducible in 17.11 and not in 16.11 |
| 17:11 | Then the cause should (hopefully!) be the same. | |
| 17:11 | And the fix could be common. | |
| 17:17 | Does anyone know what should be the expected behavior for bug 20423 ? | |
| 17:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ReservesNeedReturns allows multiple patrons to have the same item set to 'waiting' |
| 17:17 | tuxayo | Two patrons place a hold on the same item with ReservesNeedReturns set to "Automatically" |
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| 18:50 | tuxayo | Any idea Joubu ? |
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| 21:12 | wizzyrea | tuxayo: it should probably deny the 2nd attempt to mark the same item waiting |
| 21:13 | and/or select the next available item for waiting | |
| 21:25 | tuxayo | wizzyrea: there is something about rank. So maybe is should not deny. There is also a "waiting" state |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | yeah the rank is what order the holds should be filled in |
| 21:25 | waiting is "it's sitting on the shelf for someone to come get" | |
| 21:25 | waiting is not a status that can be used to fill a hold | |
| 21:26 | it absolutely should deny putting a hold on the same item twice | |
| 21:26 | it should pick the next reserve in line, and advance the queue for those items. | |
| 21:27 | deny filling a hold with the same item, I mean. | |
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| 21:29 | rangi | morning |
| 21:31 | tuxayo | hi rangi |
| 21:32 | caroline_ | hello! |
| 21:32 | Is it a good morning where you are? | |
| 21:32 | cait | how is tuesday? :) |
| 21:33 | caroline_ | hehehe! |
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| 21:37 | rangi | caroline_ and cait sunny so far |
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| 21:57 | mtompset | @seen magnuse |
| 21:57 | huginn | mtompset: magnuse was last seen in #koha 4 days, 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: * magnuse gotta run |
| 21:57 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 21:58 | Anyone seen a Norwegian? :) | |
| 21:58 | I'd like to understand those Norwegian system preferences. | |
| 21:58 | Because I patched something related to them, and I need someone to test it. :) | |
| 21:59 | tuxayo | mtompset: Norwegians should be sleeping by now ^^ |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | they should definitely be on their way to bed :P |
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| 22:05 | tuxayo | and me too! Bye o/ |
| 22:19 | mtompset | I guess I'll just have to koha-devel mailing list it then. :( |
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| 23:19 | tcohen | mtompset: ping benjamin |
| 23:20 | mtompset | ping who? |
| 23:20 | wahanui | Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. https://www.amazon.com/review/R2VDKZ4X1F992Q |
| 23:25 | mtompset | tcohen, are you suggesting the benjamin on bug 16330? |
| 23:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Pushed to Master , Add routes to add, update and delete patrons |
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