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06:26 | ass | we have got a new server we were wondering which OS we should install Debian Server edition or Ubuntu Server Edition which one is better and which will help us to continue for next 5 years |
06:27 | shall we install desktop or only server edition | |
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06:29 | reiveune | hello |
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06:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
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07:06 | fridolin | hi there |
07:06 | wahanui | hi, fridolin |
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07:24 | eythian | ass: if it's a server, install the server only. As for Ubuntu vs. Debian, it probably doesn't matter too much. Debian is the most supported, but Ubuntu LTS will probably be kept working too for much of its life. |
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07:25 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:25 | ass | ok its a server so we will go for then ubuntu as ubuntu server supports LTS for 5 years which is nt the case with debian right |
07:26 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
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07:34 | eythian | ass: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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07:46 | magnuse | \o/ |
07:51 | nlegrand | Bonjour ! |
07:51 | magnuse | bonjour nlegrand! |
07:52 | nlegrand | Ça va magnuse ? |
07:52 | magnuse | um, tres bon! |
07:52 | nlegrand | :) |
07:52 | * magnuse | spent the weekend on an island a bit south, looking for puffins |
07:52 | did not see any, but had the most wonderful weekend anyway | |
07:53 | nlegrand | :) how nice |
07:53 | puffins seem so rare I'm wondering it's not a kind of legend | |
08:06 | magnuse | i have seen some before :-) |
08:08 | nlegrand | Ho. |
08:09 | Well, where will we go if we start beleiving people? | |
08:10 | calire | Scotland :) |
08:13 | nlegrand | Ho it is a nice place to be in this time of the year. No midges. |
08:15 | calire | ;) |
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08:42 | cait | hi all |
08:44 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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09:27 | cait | jajm: which one is the most important of the acq bugs? |
09:29 | jajm | cait, i'd say bug 11708, because it blocks 6 other bugs |
09:29 | cait | i'd then start with that one when i get to qa again |
09:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate |
09:30 | cait | probably the least nice one to qa then too :) |
09:30 | ok | |
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09:54 | ass | online access to journals is it necessary to add them in serials when we are not receiving any print copies |
09:54 | can we just add their order details in koha | |
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10:29 | * andreashm | waves |
10:32 | magnuse | \o/ |
10:44 | AndrewIsh | Hey all, quick dev question. I'm creating a patch that makes a tiny DB modification, as part of that I want to pre-populate a few values. It's simple enough to do in the atomic update for existing DBs, but I can't figure out the appropriate place to do it for new DBs. I've made the schema change in kohastructure.sql, but can't find where I'd specify the prepopulated data for new DBs. Any pointers? |
10:45 | I've not been able to find anything pertaining to this on the wiki | |
10:55 | cait | the sample data |
10:55 | wahanui | hmmm... the sample data is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data |
10:56 | cait | what kind of data are we talking about AndrewIsh |
10:56 | but you are probably looking for installer/mysql/data and then en/ for the beginning | |
10:57 | that's the data the web installer loads | |
10:57 | like framweorks or authorised values | |
10:58 | AndrewIsh | cait: It is indeed authorised_values. I want to create a row in authorised_value_categories |
10:59 | cait: This is in relation to bug 20581 | |
10:59 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, ASSIGNED , Allow manual selection of custom ILL request statuses |
11:00 | AndrewIsh | cait: I need to create an "ILLSTATUS" authorised values category, in order that the user can then create values in it |
11:00 | cait | yep |
11:00 | there is already a file for that int he installer | |
11:01 | once you have figured it out and tested ok, you will also have to add it to the translated files (witout translations) | |
11:01 | AndrewIsh | Ahaaaa, clearly I didn't look hard enough! :) |
11:01 | Yep, understood | |
11:02 | I'll have a poke around in installer/data/mysql/ - many thanks! | |
11:11 | Sorry, me again. Just to make sure I understand this. So I've created an atomicupdate, which includes an insert into authorised_value_categories. As I understand it, the RM compiles that atomicupdate into updatedatabase.pl. So that takes care of existing DBs. So does updatedatabase.pl also get run on new databases after creation? | |
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11:38 | oleonard | Hi all |
11:40 | calire | hi oleonard |
11:40 | wahanui | hi dear loon |
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11:48 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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12:22 | magnuse | AndrewIsh: no, updatedatabase.pl is only run on existing dbs |
12:23 | new databases are created by kohastructure.sql + populated by sample data cait was talking about earlier | |
12:27 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: Ah, OK. I was just confused because, in installer/data/mysql, the only files that insert values into authorised_value_categories are updatedatabase.pl & mandatory/auth_val_cat.sql. So I wasn't clear where I should be adding my category, though now I write it down, it seems like I should add it to installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/auth_values.sql |
12:28 | magnuse | yeah, if you want to make sure it is in every new database, that is the way to go |
12:28 | (and remember to add it for the other languages too :-) | |
12:29 | or you could create an optional file - so that people who want to use ill can choose it and those who know they will not use it have less clutter | |
12:30 | AndrewIsh | Indeed, I was just thinking that it'll only be required if people enable ILL, good point! |
12:30 | OK, that makes sense, thanks for the help magnuse / cait :) | |
12:36 | magnuse | np! |
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12:44 | tcohen | morning! |
12:46 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
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13:01 | tcohen | jajm: around? |
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13:01 | jajm | tcohen, yes |
13:02 | tcohen | I'm about to submit to 20568 |
13:02 | It should be complete | |
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13:05 | magnuse | bug 20568 |
13:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20568 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Add API key management interface for patrons |
13:05 | magnuse | +1! |
13:05 | tcohen | jajm: i'm still not sure about the Mojo plugin for the OAuth2 server |
13:06 | magnuse: it is NSO now ;-) | |
13:07 | jajm | tcohen, i think we can remove it, it adds a new dependency and it's not worth it IMO |
13:07 | tcohen | I agree |
13:12 | jajm: 20402 should depend on this one I think | |
13:14 | jajm | tcohen, isn't it the opposite ? 20568 depends on 20402 |
13:15 | tcohen | not really, because this one only implements CRUD stuff for api keys |
13:15 | and the other one should consume this instead of koha-conf | |
13:18 | jajm: do you agree? | |
13:19 | I'm about to resubmit the patches | |
13:19 | I made a couple mistakes XD | |
13:21 | jajm | tcohen, i fear that if we do that none of the 2 bugs will make it into 18.05 |
13:22 | tcohen | I will QA the OAuth server, and the implementation is good enough IMHO |
13:22 | we just need someone to SO on this simple CRUD stuff | |
13:22 | and you can QA it, hopefully you won't find any blocker | |
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14:11 | jajm | thanks for the vote tcohen |
14:11 | tcohen | that's for starting the discussion! |
14:18 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 19882: Fix syntax issue in .pref file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d4b1dc743a3e1591> |
14:22 | cait1 | jajm: i think we had josef_moravec as an additional tester |
14:22 | maybe get in touch with him for waht you need tested? | |
14:32 | jajm | tcohen, API clients are supposed to have a client id and a client secret, what should be used for client id with bug 20568 ? |
14:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20568 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add API key management interface for patrons |
14:33 | tcohen | right |
14:34 | do you have any suggestion? | |
14:35 | it shouldn't change in time, right? | |
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14:37 | jajm | we could generate a pair of (id,secret) instead of a single key |
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14:49 | tcohen | the ID is supposed to identity the 'consumer', right? |
14:50 | is it possible that a consumer has many keys? | |
14:50 | or do we need to keep a one to many relationship with keys? | |
14:50 | (e.g. we store the revoked keys, etc) | |
14:51 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #435: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/435/ |
14:51 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 19882: Fix syntax issue in .pref file | |
14:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19882 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Add Novelist Select staff client profile |
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15:11 | reiveune | bye |
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15:45 | cait | josef_moravec++ |
15:45 | thank you! | |
15:47 | oleonard | It'd be nice to be able to change date due in the batch item modification tool. |
15:48 | Y'know, for days when Owen forgot to define a holiday. | |
15:50 | cait | heh |
15:50 | would owen do that? | |
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16:12 | * kidclamp | is lunching |
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16:17 | * LeeJ | waves |
16:17 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
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16:47 | LeeJ | cait: around? |
16:47 | cait | about to run out, what's up? |
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16:59 | cait1 | LeeJ: sorry, got disconnected |
16:59 | will be bakc in a bit | |
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17:11 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 11674: DBRev 17.12.00.031 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94f34170c8cf5d83e> |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18725: Test return values of make_column_dirty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]933f142541ea2190d> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20515: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization on 'Ill Requests' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cfafdbd49e25736dd> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18007: Interface updates to notices and notice previews <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8ed37db5393f3de8> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20515: (follow-up) Add missing CAN_user_ill <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8f2381710f1ebc7a4> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18725: (QA follow-up) Use make_column_dirty instead of status change <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2dc7119eecdc9cfb5> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20515: (QA follow-up) Remove specific superlibrarian check <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef4e9c5a0c2ba282d> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20539: Remove warnings in catalogue/search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df330bcb4591f6291> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 20515: Fix permission check on "ILL request" menu options <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df15f9124e1cf6ee6> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 11674: Configuration for MARC field doc URLs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d90f0302e93c418ff> | |
17:11 | News from kohagit: Bug 18725: Prevent process_message_queue to send duplicate emails if message_queue... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]af83a94184cd1b2f9> | |
17:46 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #436: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/436/ |
17:46 | * kyle: Bug 18725: Prevent process_message_queue to send duplicate emails if | |
17:46 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18725: (QA follow-up) Use make_column_dirty instead of status change | |
17:46 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18725: Test return values of make_column_dirty | |
17:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18725 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , process_message_queue.pl sends duplicate emails if message_queue is not writable |
17:46 | jenkins | * julian.maurice: Bug 20539: Remove warnings in catalogue/search.pl |
17:46 | * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20515: Fix permission check on "ILL request" menu options | |
17:46 | * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20515: (QA follow-up) Remove specific superlibrarian check | |
17:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20539 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Warnings in catalogue/search.pl need to be removed |
17:46 | jenkins | * andrew.isherwood: Bug 20515: (follow-up) Add missing CAN_user_ill |
17:46 | * katrin.fischer: Bug 20515: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization on 'Ill Requests' | |
17:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20515 trivial, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Pushed to Master , "ILL Request" menu options displayed when user has no ILL permissions |
17:46 | jenkins | * oleonard: Bug 18007: Interface updates to notices and notice previews |
17:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Interface updates to notices and notice previews |
17:46 | jenkins | * pasi.kallinen: Bug 11674: Configuration for MARC field doc URLs |
17:46 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11674: DBRev 17.12.00.031 | |
17:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Configuration for MARC field doc URLs |
17:48 | LeeJ | @later cait how did you address documenting enhancements/bugfixes? |
17:48 | huginn | LeeJ: downloading the Perl source |
17:48 | LeeJ | @later tell cait how did you address documenting enhancements/bugfixes? |
17:48 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
17:52 | * LeeJ | gives huginn a cookie - 01100011 01101111 01101111 01101011 01101001 01100101 |
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18:08 | cait | LeeJ: still around? |
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18:26 | LeeJ | cait: yup :) |
18:35 | cait | me too again |
18:35 | cooking dinner | |
18:41 | LeeJ | haha |
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18:57 | oleonard | http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.[…]?p=15239049935877 |
19:02 | cait | putting this here and then running out...ts |
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19:09 | tcohen | jajm: done |
19:15 | * cait | waves |
19:19 | Joubu | cait: bug 19794: why we should not update existing installations? |
19:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19794 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Rename RLIST - Routing list notice template as it's not related to routing lists |
19:20 | Joubu | (I undestood that will not change anything, but in the future we could use this SERIAL_ALERT code in the template, for instance |
19:20 | and then RLIST will be forgotten | |
19:20 | and I close the ) | |
19:34 | cait | we would not use it int he template, because you can have multiple templates :) |
19:34 | and some libraries might to just that, we don't know | |
19:35 | we can update it, i justthought it might be confusing to the library to change it | |
19:35 | not sure if htere is a proper FK | |
19:35 | it displays as a pull down in subscription, Koha only looks for the module | |
19:36 | hm | |
19:36 | if youwant ot, i will give it a try | |
19:38 | hope i made sense | |
19:38 | Joubu | cait: I was just wondering, not sure either |
19:38 | cait | we'll ask tcohen |
19:38 | :P | |
19:38 | Joubu | maybe just a warning in updatedb? |
19:38 | cait | hm why warn? |
19:38 | i mean what o put in the warning? | |
19:39 | tcohen is ignoring us | |
19:41 | i think either update the existing notice or not, but a warning does not make sense to me | |
19:43 | i'll take a look at writing a database update | |
19:43 | then we can put in the update message that it has been updated | |
19:43 | another question | |
19:43 | wahanui | another question is probably when i install a new koha besides the koha-conf.xml is there any other file that store the necessary information? |
19:43 | cait | how do i get a unimarc installation in my kohadevbox? |
19:43 | is it easily possible? | |
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19:51 | cait | hi davidnind :) |
19:55 | Joubu | cait: no idea |
19:55 | I have never tried, but it should be possible | |
19:55 | cait | i think I can |
19:55 | davidnind | hi cait |
19:55 | cait | jus tupdating my devbox, ther eis a new reset_all_unimarc |
19:56 | tcohen++ https://github.com/digibib/koh[…]038d7249e72237000 | |
19:57 | davidnind++ | |
19:57 | while this runs, time to do the dishes :) | |
20:18 | tcohen: do you know why this might happen with reset_all_unimarc? http://paste.koha-community.org/228 | |
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20:23 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard bug 9302 comment 39, point 10: what are the news guidelines for new pages? |
20:23 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
20:23 | Joubu | cait: wrong records |
20:24 | cait | hm yep, but shoudl the reset not load unimarc ones? |
20:24 | i was wondering maybe wrong indexing | |
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20:24 | Joubu | *should*, yes |
20:25 | cait | it used the configured marcflavour docs say |
20:25 | i tihnk you need to start the devbox as unimarc | |
20:35 | * andreashm | waves |
20:37 | cait | Joubu: .pl files need use CGI qw ( -utf8 ); right? |
20:37 | the utf8 bit? | |
20:39 | Joubu | yes |
20:40 | cait | thx |
20:40 | working on some pretty old patches | |
20:51 | The method created_by is not covered by tests! :( | |
20:53 | rangi | that is the WORST error message |
20:53 | because it is totally muscular | |
20:53 | lol | |
20:53 | misleading | |
20:53 | Joubu | you can blame me |
20:53 | cait | i was wondering |
20:53 | rangi | wow my brain exploded then |
20:54 | Joubu | I have a patch to improve it, I do not know why I did not submit it yet |
20:54 | rangi | this column in the table doesn't have a method |
20:54 | is what it means eh? | |
20:54 | cait | running dbic and restart_all made it go away |
20:54 | weird | |
20:54 | Joubu | it means that the method you are calling is not a column of the table |
20:54 | rangi | Joubu: I should have sent a patch myself, instead of just complaining :) |
20:54 | Joubu | or a DBIx::Class method that is "not allowed" |
20:54 | rangi | ahh hyep |
20:55 | Joubu | the idea was to know what DBIx::Class method we are calling |
20:55 | cait | werid because i thought i had already done that |
20:55 | Joubu | and allow them one by one, providing tests for them |
20:55 | rangi | ahh yep, that is a good idea |
20:55 | Joubu | cait: then regenerate the schema |
20:55 | cait | yeah thought i did that before, whatever, it worked now:) |
20:55 | rangi | :) |
20:56 | cait | i should not always qa with tired brain |
20:56 | rangi | when you figure out how to not have a tired brain, tell me :) |
20:57 | * andreashm | would like to know too |
20:57 | andreashm | not for qa, just life in general |
20:57 | rangi | :) |
20:59 | andreashm | Joubu: thanks for testing bug 19469. You found some interesting discrepancies. All valid I think. |
20:59 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype |
21:00 | Joubu | quite hard to test because the existing view is already a bit buggy... :) |
21:00 | andreashm | Yes I know. |
21:01 | * andreashm | found some other (related) bugs while testing that one. Like bug 19574 |
21:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19574 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Wrong itemtype can be chosen when placing holds |
21:02 | cait | :) |
21:02 | not the bug, but i love alive #koha | |
21:03 | andreashm | hehe |
21:04 | @later tell khall_away did you see Joubu's comment on bug 19469? | |
21:04 | huginn | andreashm: The operation succeeded. |
21:05 | * andreashm | is thinking about item-level holds... and how they actually fit in the holds view in general. |
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21:11 | Joubu | cait: is this a regression: https://screenshots.firefox.co[…]A/pro.kohadev.org ? |
21:11 | just if you know at quick glance, otherwise I will check on stable branches | |
21:11 | selects are misaligned | |
21:12 | cait | give me a second, just finishing this off |
21:12 | Joubu | not urgent at all, just putting it here to not forget actually |
21:12 | cait | ok, confused |
21:12 | wahanui | confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
21:12 | cait | what am i looking for? |
21:13 | ah | |
21:13 | i never noticed it, i can check an older version one moment | |
21:14 | looks the same in 16.11 | |
21:14 | standing order, billing and delivery are more to the left | |
21:17 | hm got a question too | |
21:18 | anyone else seeing this javascript error on patron search? Source map error: TypeError: NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource. | |
21:18 | Resource URL: moz-extension://4c0a0122-572e-487b-8450-a7c0749b2c69/js/resources/lib/browser-polyfill.min.js | |
21:18 | browser issue? | |
21:19 | rangi | looks like it |
21:19 | wahanui | Can we get some hard data on that? |
21:20 | cait | hm must be, odd |
21:32 | ok, I tink i am going a little crazy | |
21:32 | I am testing bug 14716 | |
21:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14716 normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Correctly URI-encode URLs in XSLT result lists and detail pages |
21:33 | cait | and in one browser the urls are encoded |
21:33 | and in the other they are not | |
21:34 | any reason this could be a thing? | |
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21:56 | rangi | one of our clients wants versioning and drafts etc for marc records implemented |
21:57 | so that you can view past versions, roll back | |
21:57 | etc | |
21:58 | the drafts is easy enough, we just can put them in the reserviour to be checked. But the full version control is a bit trickier | |
21:58 | the idea i had, was to basically export the xml, and store it in an actual version control system (most likely git) | |
21:58 | so each change, commits that file too | |
21:59 | has anyone else thought about this before? | |
21:59 | (that way also it woudlnt be marc specific) | |
22:03 | cait | someone from sweden worked on that once i think |
22:03 | rangi | yeah i vaguely remember that, ill see if I can hunt it down |
22:03 | cait | hm, not sure if Viktor is still working on Koha, but he would know i tihnk |
22:04 | rangi | magnus might know too |
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22:17 | rangi | Joubu: are you about? |
22:41 | cait | @later tell oleonard if you get some time, could you take a look at bug 17674 maybe? it looks promising but some visual issues. |
22:41 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
22:44 | * cait | is the evil fail qa queen |
22:44 | cait | :( |
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