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| 05:41 | calire | morning #koha |
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| 06:03 | magnuse | guten morgen calire |
| 06:03 | wie geht's? | |
| 06:04 | calire | ganz gut, danke :) |
| 06:04 | and you? | |
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| 11:39 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 11:40 | kidclamp | hi oleonard |
| 11:40 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
| 11:51 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:51 | wahanui | hi dear loon |
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| 12:14 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
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| 13:27 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 13:28 | tcohen | Hi |
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| 13:29 | Joubu | we have a new translation server :) |
| 13:30 | "Fix critical errors 192,205" | |
| 13:30 | outhc | |
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| 13:30 | josef_moravec | Hi marcelr, tcohen, Joubu |
| 13:31 | marcelr | o/ |
| 13:34 | tcohen | bgkriegel++ |
| 13:42 | Shane-S | So my Librarian is complaining that the system is slow...so I just ran in and she said its with circulation checkin and checkout |
| 13:43 | anything I can check to speed that up, running Koha 7.11 w/memcache running | |
| 13:43 | KiB Mem : 8175032 total, 3084012 free, 821440 used, 4269580 buff/cache KiB Swap: 1003516 total, 1003516 free, 0 used. 7010336 avail Mem | |
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| 13:46 | * andreashm | waves |
| 13:47 | Joubu | Shane-S: go to the about page and search for warnings |
| 13:47 | caroline | hey all, is it just me or is the link "Guided reports wizard" in the reports page totally useless? It only leads to a page where there are four button/links which are also on the main reports page |
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| 13:50 | kidclamp | caroline, looks to be removed in master |
| 13:50 | caroline | I still see it, but I have not updated my master in a while |
| 13:50 | I will check | |
| 13:50 | tahnks! :) | |
| 13:51 | Shane-S | Joubu: I have this one...on SysInfo |
| 13:51 | You are missing the <template_cache_dir> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. That will bring a performance boost to enable it. | |
| 13:51 | Would that make a huge impact? | |
| 13:52 | Joubu | nope |
| 13:52 | Shane-S | Perl Modules I gave 6 red boxes...not sure they should eb addresses or not. |
| 13:52 | Joubu | nothing about plack? |
| 13:53 | Shane-S | Test::DBIx::Class (0.42),HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73), Readonly::XS (0.01), WebService::ILS (0.17) |
| 13:53 | all not installed | |
| 13:53 | Joubu | they are not mandatory |
| 13:54 | caroline | @kidclamp, wow, it looks really different! Thanks for pointing it out! |
| 13:54 | huginn | caroline: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:54 | Shane-S | I have to fix the DBMS auto increment, but that is the only warning |
| 13:54 | kidclamp | Shane-S, do you have TrackLastPatronActivity enabled? |
| 13:54 | Joubu | you can try tunning the max_requests and number of workers |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Don't mind huginn, caroline, he just doesn't like it when you put the @ on someone's name |
| 13:55 | Shane-S | kidclamp: that a system pref, I will search it if so |
| 13:55 | caroline | that's what i figured... I'm not versed in irc codes |
| 13:55 | kidclamp | yes, system pref |
| 13:56 | caroline | Before coming to inlibro last fall, I hadn't used irc since the mid 1990's when the internet was just beginning |
| 13:56 | Shane-S | kidclamp: its is set to "Don't" |
| 13:56 | Joubu | dev meeting in few minutes |
| 13:56 | qa_team? | |
| 13:56 | wahanui | somebody said qa_team was alex_a jajm marcelr khall kidclamp tcohen josef_moravec |
| 13:56 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | rmaints is probably kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) |
| 13:57 | oleonard | Oh you're with Inlibro, caroline? I didn't know that. |
| 13:57 | kidclamp | not sure then shane-s |
| 13:57 | caroline | yes, I replaced francois charbonnier |
| 13:57 | he's gone on to new challenges | |
| 13:57 | Shane-S | Joubu: okay I will fix my auto increment issue and then check on the request and workers |
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| 14:00 | Joubu | hope you all have cofe, tea, mate or anything with stimulant |
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| 14:01 | thd | Joubu: Sleep is the best stimulant ;) |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018 |
| 14:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 14:01:37 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_11_april_2018' |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 14:01 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:02 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 14:02 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:02 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum, NL |
| 14:02 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:02 | andreashm | #info Andreas Hedström Mace, Stockholm University Library |
| 14:02 | jajm | #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
| 14:02 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Ústí nad Orlicí, Czech Republic |
| 14:02 | cc_ | #info Colin Campbell, PTFS-Europe |
| 14:02 | Joubu | #chair kidclamp |
| 14:02 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu kidclamp |
| 14:02 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:03 | in another meeting, may be slow | |
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| 14:03 | Joubu | nobody else? |
| 14:03 | #topic Announcements | |
| 14:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:04 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_11_April_2018 |
| 14:04 | ^ this is the agenda | |
| 14:04 | #info wiki page for the 18.11 roles is created - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.11 | |
| 14:04 | anyone has something to announce? | |
| 14:05 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:05 | calire | #info Claire Gravely, Germany |
| 14:05 | cait | sorry to be a little late |
| 14:05 | Joubu | no worries, do you have something to announce? |
| 14:06 | cait | only the roles page |
| 14:06 | Joubu | #topic Update from the Release Manager (18.05) |
| 14:06 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (18.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:06 | cait | you already did I think |
| 14:06 | reading back quickly now | |
| 14:06 | Joubu | I have announced several things at the last general meeting. Everybody reads the minutes so I do not need to repeat everything |
| 14:07 | nothing new since last week | |
| 14:07 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 14:07 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:07 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 14:07 | wahanui | i guess rmaints is kidclamp (17.11), fridolin (17.05), rangi (16.11) |
| 14:07 | fridolin | yep |
| 14:07 | I continue Rmaint 17.05 after 18.05 release | |
| 14:08 | i will go to 17.05.18 max | |
| 14:08 | kidclamp | just trying to catch up and push things |
| 14:08 | Joubu | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:09 | cait | hard feature freeze is planned for 20th |
| 14:09 | so we are busy | |
| 14:09 | we'll try to take car eof as many things as possible, but at the moment the queue is still around 70 | |
| 14:09 | please rebase/follow-up really quickly if needed | |
| 14:10 | Joubu | yes, please |
| 14:10 | I am also dealing with 40 patches to push but waiting for answers on some of the reports | |
| 14:10 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
| 14:10 | cait | if something doesn't apply I will fail it - because there is not much time to work on follow-ups myself |
| 14:10 | don't take it personal :) | |
| 14:10 | yes, check your outstanding bugs for comments | |
| 14:11 | it's disappointing to spend time on reviewing and not hear back, especially with the deadline so close | |
| 14:11 | but lots of progress too right now, it's just a lot of things | |
| 14:11 | anyone else from QA? | |
| 14:12 | marcelr | you said it all |
| 14:12 | Joubu | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 14:12 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | #topic REST api |
| 14:12 | Topic for #koha is now REST api (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:13 | Joubu | Does anyone disagree with one of the 4 RDF? |
| 14:13 | RFC | |
| 14:14 | there are: | |
| 14:14 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ders_endpoint_RFC | |
| 14:14 | thd | There is an open issue in the wiki descriptionl. |
| 14:14 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]unds_endpoint_RFC |
| 14:14 | cait | I've left commetns on each |
| 14:14 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]dors_endpoint_RFC |
| 14:14 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lios_endpoint_RFC | |
| 14:14 | cait | some small things about names etc, butnothing big |
| 14:14 | Joubu | so 3 about ACQ and 1 for the bibliographic record endpoint |
| 14:14 | cait | like use tax instead of gst (like the gui does already) |
| 14:14 | thd | users vs patrons for acquisition funds which obviously do not apply to patrons. |
| 14:15 | cait | but you still use a patron_id i think? |
| 14:15 | if we stick with terminology | |
| 14:15 | i am not sure we shoud mix, if it's all the same | |
| 14:16 | in koha you always link to a patrons record, staff is not separate, either use one term or the other | |
| 14:16 | josef_moravec | we should keep it consistant I think |
| 14:16 | thd | I understand the underlying problem is the original specification for Koha. |
| 14:16 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:17 | thd | Every user is a patron. |
| 14:17 | andreashm | +1 for consistency |
| 14:17 | wahanui | i think +1 for consistency is drojf's only opinion |
| 14:17 | thd | I merely identify that there are open questions in what is proposed for voting. |
| 14:17 | Joubu | from the page "Note: it would be correct to pick users over patrons in this case. This should be voted, though." |
| 14:18 | so I guess Tomas expected the discussion here and get a decision | |
| 14:18 | thd | I presume that we take the examples as they are and issues such as users vs patrons are for some future prospect of reconsideration. |
| 14:19 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher, ByWater |
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| 14:19 | Joubu | any other concerns about these RFC? |
| 14:19 | something that could be blocker? | |
| 14:19 | thd | Having noted the outstanding issues, I am ready to vote on the proposed form as they stand in the wiki today. |
| 14:20 | bag | +1 on thd comment |
| 14:20 | greenjimll | #info Jon Knight, Loughborough University |
| 14:20 | cait | start vote? |
| 14:20 | Joubu | #chair cait |
| 14:20 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu cait kidclamp |
| 14:21 | thd | We can revisit the outstanding issues in future as the opportunity arises. |
| 14:21 | cait | all in one or separate? |
| 14:21 | bag | all in one (imo) |
| 14:22 | thd | All in one without objection. |
| 14:22 | cait | ok |
| 14:22 | the hardest part is always phrasing the question | |
| 14:22 | #startvote To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are? (yes,no,abstain) | |
| 14:22 | huginn | Begin voting on: To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 14:22 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:23 | greenjimll | #vote yes |
| 14:23 | Joubu | #vote abstain |
| 14:23 | cait | #vote yes |
| 14:23 | thd | #vote yes |
| 14:23 | cc_ | #vote abstain |
| 14:23 | bag | #vote yes |
| 14:23 | jajm | #vote abstain |
| 14:23 | oleonard | #vote abstain |
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| 14:24 | cait | giving it a few more seconds |
| 14:24 | #endvote | |
| 14:24 | huginn | Voted on "To vote: RFC endpoints for orders, funds and vendors in acq, biblios. Do you agree with the RFCs and comments as they are?" Results are |
| 14:24 | yes (4): greenjimll, cait, bag, thd | |
| 14:24 | abstain (4): Joubu, oleonard, cc_, jajm | |
| 14:24 | josef_moravec | #vote yes |
| 14:24 | andreashm | #vote yes |
| 14:24 | marcelr | #vote yes |
| 14:24 | Joubu | toooo late guys |
| 14:24 | marcelr | haha |
| 14:24 | khall | #vote yes |
| 14:24 | cait | people, pay attention |
| 14:24 | thd | :)\ |
| 14:25 | cait | #agreed RFCs for funds, vendors, orders and biblios have been agreed upon, no blocker concerns, write the code and then we adjust. |
| 14:25 | Joubu | my concerns, not about the RFC: REST API endpoints must be written with already moved code |
| 14:25 | and ACQ code is not moved at all (even not started) | |
| 14:25 | cait | #info 4 yes, 4 lates yes and 4 abstains |
| 14:25 | josef_moravec | Joubu++ |
| 14:25 | cait | Joubu: i see the conflict, but we need the apis for acq |
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| 14:26 | Joubu | to me it will be very difficult to write orders (order lines) end points with the code we have in C4::Acq |
| 14:26 | cait | maybe it could be a separate discussion |
| 14:26 | Joubu | which is very shitty |
| 14:26 | (I know I wrote big part of it) | |
| 14:26 | cait | how to tackel them exactly |
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| 14:27 | cait | shoudl we also vote patrons vs users? |
| 14:27 | cc_ | yes lots of underlying issues in acq design |
| 14:27 | bag | would be good to vote on that cait |
| 14:27 | cait | can you help me phrase the question? |
| 14:27 | marcelr | cait: what is the link for that one ? |
| 14:27 | cait | i think at the moment it's if we shoudl use it on funds |
| 14:28 | comment here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]unds_endpoint_RFC | |
| 14:28 | Note: it would be correct to pick users over patrons in this case. This should be voted, though. | |
| 14:28 | funds can be linked to 1-many users that can 'use ' them | |
| 14:28 | marcelr | yeah fund user sounds better than fund patron |
| 14:28 | cait | you still will link it to a patron record |
| 14:28 | i thnk mixing might get difficult, but ready to abstain | |
| 14:29 | bag | so cait you think having users in acqs and then having patrons on other areas of Koha - is too confusing? |
| 14:29 | cait | #startvote Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 14:29 | huginn | Begin voting on: Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 14:29 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:29 | greenjimll | #vote yes |
| 14:29 | cc_ | #vote yes |
| 14:29 | Joubu | there is also the owner, so "users" and "owner" make perfect sense |
| 14:29 | cait | bag: it will still be patron_id I think |
| 14:30 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | marcelr | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | bag | right <thinking> |
| 14:30 | thd | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | oleonard | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | josef_moravec | #vote abstain |
| 14:30 | bag | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | cait | #vote yes (turned by the argument of owners) |
| 14:30 | huginn | cait: yes (turned by the argument of owners) is not a valid option. Valid options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 14:30 | andreashm | #vote abstain |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | jajm | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | cait | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | * ashimema | catches up |
| 14:30 | cait | few more seconds |
| 14:30 | people concentrate! | |
| 14:30 | ashimema | #vote yes |
| 14:31 | marcelr | :) |
| 14:31 | cait | #endvote |
| 14:31 | huginn | Voted on "Should we use users instead of patron in the case of the funds RFC (users /patrons able to use a specific fund for odering)?" Results are |
| 14:31 | yes (11): Joubu, greenjimll, cc_, cait, kidclamp, oleonard, ashimema, jajm, marcelr, bag, thd | |
| 14:31 | abstain (2): andreashm, josef_moravec | |
| 14:31 | cait | #agreed We will users in the case of the funds RFC (11 yes, 2 abstain) |
| 14:31 | done | |
| 14:31 | can someoen help with oauth? | |
| 14:31 | Joubu | moving ong? |
| 14:31 | #topic REST API Authentication | |
| 14:31 | Topic for #koha is now REST API Authentication (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:31 | Joubu | jajm: ? |
| 14:32 | * ashimema | thinks we should say 'users everywhere in the api' as apposed to 'in this case' |
| 14:32 | cait | ashimema: that woudl mean changing already voted on rfcs which I'd wanted to avoid in this case |
| 14:32 | jajm | i think we need to discuss what to do with oauth2, scopes, and patron's permissions |
| 14:32 | cait | ashimema: something we can discuss later again |
| 14:32 | ashimema | is the api versioned yet |
| 14:33 | cait | jajm: how does the proposal work? i create an api-key for an existing patron, the permission the patron has will be used? |
| 14:33 | * ashimema | will refrain from asking questions now and have a catch up session with cait/tomas or someone later |
| 14:33 | cait | because that would sound ok for e right nwo |
| 14:33 | Joubu | As RM I'd like to know if we can expect to see this REST API auth work into 18.05 or if it is too late |
| 14:33 | greenjimll | With OAuth2, are we talking client-confidential flows? Using JWT tokens? |
| 14:33 | jajm | the code in bug 20402 only allow to define "API clients" in koha-conf.xml, not linked to any koha patron |
| 14:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API |
| 14:34 | jajm | greenjimll, client crendentials yes, no jwt tokens |
| 14:34 | cait | jajm: but how do you figure what they are allowed todo? |
| 14:34 | * ashimema | will read that code before commenting |
| 14:35 | cait | maybe that's the best approach to comment on the bug itself? |
| 14:35 | jajm | cait, as an example the code allow to define scopes for each API client (ex. "patrons.read"), the scopes needed to access a specific resource is defined in the swagger schema |
| 14:35 | greenjimll | jajm: The reason for not having JWT tokens? They're in common use (eg Google REST APIs) |
| 14:36 | jajm | greenjimll, i just wanted a minimal working implementation |
| 14:36 | cait | i think one of the basic questions is if we can finish something or 18.05 |
| 14:36 | my impression was that we haven't defined scopes yet, is that right? | |
| 14:36 | jajm | cait, you're right |
| 14:36 | greenjimll | Isn't 18.05 freeze in 9 days? That's tight! |
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| 14:36 | cait | yep |
| 14:36 | marcelr | too late.. |
| 14:36 | cait | so is there something reasonable that we can do for 18.05 |
| 14:37 | i think people voiced a need for this in order to continue with implementing links with Coral | |
| 14:37 | which would be a good argument for me to provide something earlier than later, but not sure how doable it is | |
| 14:37 | matts | links with anything outside of Koha itself, in fact |
| 14:37 | andreashm | Something that works better than cookies is needed. But other than that, I have no opinion on how it is built |
| 14:38 | jajm | i think the only thing we can do before feature freeze is to remove the "scopes" stuff, and tie an API client with an existing Koha patron, so that we can use the permissions the patron |
| 14:38 | andreashm | starting simple seems viable to me. doing something for 18.05 seems tight though. |
| 14:38 | josef_moravec | If it is doable for 18.05 I am for it |
| 14:38 | andreashm | +1 |
| 14:38 | matts | +1 |
| 14:38 | thd | Do we allow backporting after release? |
| 14:38 | cait | +1 i think we need to offer something now |
| 14:39 | Joubu | who's working on bug 20402? |
| 14:39 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API |
| 14:39 | cait | jajm: do you have time to work on it? |
| 14:39 | i think maybe also tomas, for qa we#d have to check then | |
| 14:40 | jajm | Joubu, I will, if everyone agree |
| 14:40 | cait | josef_moravec: maybe you for qa? feasable? |
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| 14:48 | cait | i think appratent afterwards was the issue |
| 14:48 | but we shoul try to put all the important things int he release notes | |
| 14:48 | Joubu | (resending some messages for the minutes) |
| 14:48 | #action ashimema will read code of bug 20402 and give feedback on the bug report | |
| 14:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Implement OAuth2 authentication for REST API |
| 14:48 | Joubu | #action jajm will work on linking to existing patrons, tcohen and josef_moravec will test/qa |
| 14:49 | #info jajm will take a look at the existing Mojolicious plugin (instead of using Net::OAuth2::.. directly) | |
| 14:49 | cait | we got another dev meeting before release |
| 14:49 | postpone this? | |
| 14:49 | Joubu | About the updates - just assume than updates can be problematic, and test them on a test/pre-prod server |
| 14:50 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:50 | Joubu | but yes, we could highlight them in the release notes as well |
| 14:50 | cait | I think collect on a wiki page if it happens |
| 14:50 | marcelr | wiki page per release |
| 14:50 | ashimema | If a db update is likely to take hours then that's certainly something we can predict and put in the release notes I would say |
| 14:50 | cait | that problems/notes make sense after release |
| 14:50 | yep | |
| 14:51 | set time and date of next meeting? | |
| 14:51 | Joubu | it's very easy to know if it will be problmatic, just by reading the SQL queries in updatedb.pl |
| 14:51 | cait | #info try to already note long running db updates in the release notes properly |
| 14:51 | * ashimema | actually reads the wiki page of release note/upgrade path notes for Mojolicious versions.. something similar would certainly be helpful. |
| 14:51 | greenjimll | I was thinking more that if we knew something might take a long time up front, a warning could be included as part of the update process? |
| 14:51 | Joubu | if there is items/biblioitems, etc. it will certainly take ages |
| 14:51 | cait | Joubu: not everyone will understand them the way we do |
| 14:51 | think a sysadmin that ususally not works on Koha or with sQL | |
| 14:51 | i know what tuxayo means | |
| 14:52 | ashimema | a warning inlines in the updates won't help I think.. |
| 14:52 | Joubu | I am just worried about the decisions/discussions we have in the meetings ;) |
| 14:52 | ashimema | - Hey, this thing we're about to do is going to take a while.. but we're not going to give you an option to postpone it |
| 14:52 | not helpfull really is it ;) | |
| 14:53 | Joubu | they are usually lost in blockholes |
| 14:53 | greenjimll | More helpful than silence. |
| 14:53 | Joubu | blackholes |
| 14:53 | ashimema | mm |
| 14:53 | cait | let's move on? |
| 14:53 | Joubu | 1sec |
| 14:53 | we talked about moving the print line of the updateDB *before* the execution | |
| 14:54 | that could give information on what is going on | |
| 14:54 | ashimema | that would be nice |
| 14:54 | Joubu | (no idea if someone opened a bug report) |
| 14:54 | marcelr | or just occassionally print a extra line |
| 14:54 | Joubu | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 14:54 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 14:55 | Joubu | April 25th? |
| 14:55 | Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 20 UTC? | |
| 14:55 | cait | will be travelling |
| 14:55 | greenjimll | +1 |
| 14:55 | calire | me too |
| 14:55 | Joubu | Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 21 UTC? |
| 14:56 | greenjimll | yes |
| 14:56 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 25 April 2018, 21 UTC |
| 14:56 | 3 | |
| 14:56 | thd | Yes |
| 14:56 | Joubu | 2 |
| 14:56 | 1 | |
| 14:56 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:56 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 14:56 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 14:56:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:56 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-11-14.01.html | |
| 14:56 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-04-11-14.01.txt | |
| 14:56 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]11-14.01.log.html | |
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| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:01 | oleonard | Joubu++ |
| 15:01 | Thanks for chairing | |
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| 15:05 | Joubu | @later tell marcelr Koha::Cache::Memory::Lite is not buggy, it's flushed correctly |
| 15:05 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:17 | oleonard | Thanks for the signoff on Bug 18791 calire! |
| 15:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add the ability for librarians to easily copy, download or print DataTables based tables in Koha |
| 15:20 | calire | you're welcome |
| 15:22 | tuxayo | cait++ |
| 15:23 | Thanks for developing on the issue that I wrote about for the meeting. Too bad I missed the date. | |
| 15:27 | Joubu | tuxayo: how did you miss it? |
| 15:27 | seen the Koha calendar? | |
| 15:27 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'the', Joubu |
| 15:28 | * ashimema | is getting angry whilst reading ::Objects code |
| 15:33 | tuxayo | lol wahanui |
| 15:33 | Joubu: I wrote about this the 8 march when the meeting was planned for the 15 march. I didn't keep track of when it was rescheduled. | |
| 15:36 | Joubu | ashimema: hum? Can you be more explicit? |
| 15:38 | Shane-S | So...I can't duplicate this off-site, but a user called me saying doing check-in / checkout they keep getting the "add Message" pop coming up and that checking the immediately show checkouts box isn't enabled across patrons |
| 15:38 | Is there anything aside from a browser cache issue that would cause that? | |
| 15:46 | on another matter...I did the auto increment files, and tailed the logs...got no errors, but the SysInfo page still says I have auto-increment issues...do I have to re-boot the whole server? | |
| 15:46 | I followed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix | |
| 15:48 | I should not my my.cnf did not have a [mysqld] directive, I added that and 2 init-file= lines as I have 2 instances | |
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| 15:58 | Joubu | Shane-S: re-read the page, you need to fix the "corrupted data" first |
| 16:01 | Shane-S | ...uhh...as in just purge the records or what? |
| 16:08 | Joubu | Shane-S: what tells the about page? |
| 16:08 | Shane-S | I got it...I saw the bug 19016 reference and didnt read next line |
| 16:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19016 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add a script to fix corrupted data |
| 16:08 | Shane-S | one possible fix is to delete the entries in the deleted* and old* tables matching the IDs listed on the about page. |
| 16:09 | Sorry to be a PITA with missing that line | |
| 16:11 | tcohen | hi |
| 16:11 | wahanui | hi, tcohen |
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| 16:13 | Joubu | Shane-S: you are going to lose data but yes it's the easiest fix. It depends on the number of corrupted rows you have |
| 16:13 | Shane-S | 1 for 1 instance, and 4 in another instance |
| 16:16 | Joubu | from old_issues? or something else? |
| 16:17 | Shane-S | deleteditems (1 koha & 2 woodburhts) and old_reserves (2 woodburyhts) those are instance names |
| 16:18 | i deleted all the record in the the deleted and old tables | |
| 16:18 | well the reported issues record | |
| 16:18 | not *all* that was poor word choice | |
| 16:19 | okay warning page just have the <template_cache_dir> warning and that is it | |
| 16:22 | Anyone recommend a good image paste bin...FFx is rendering the OPAC odd at the top...is a blue bar over the header image and menu bar | |
| 16:27 | Joubu | Shane-S: https://lut.im/ |
| 16:28 | Shane-S | actually nm...just one instance, I have to check my custom CSS |
| 16:28 | ty though | |
| 16:29 | tcohen | Joubu: are the release notes rebuilt regularly for us to take a look? |
| 16:31 | Joubu | yes |
| 16:32 | I regenerate them just after pushing stuffs | |
| 16:34 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 200.16.23.4 pasted "Joubu: the orders endpoint controller" (336 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/208 |
| 16:35 | tcohen | Joubu: that's only to show that current Koha::Acquisition::Order(s) code is perfectly suitable for implementing the orders endpoint as-is |
| 16:35 | the only problem I'm facing is that other Koha::Object-based classes behave differently regarding DBIC exceptions, and I think we should make it behave as the others | |
| 16:35 | for consistency | |
| 16:37 | * tcohen | adds that this controller is not ready because there's the idea to make it automatically create baskest if no basket_id is passed (Coral use cases) |
| 16:41 | tcohen | release notes? |
| 16:41 | wahanui | release notes are in misc/release_notes |
| 16:48 | Joubu | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_17_12_00.md |
| 16:49 | hum, buggy | |
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| 16:55 | Shane-S | grr..I can't find the right CSS element to change the header background from black to a gradient... |
| 16:56 | tried .navbar div.navbar #header-region all get over-ridden | |
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| 17:07 | Shane-S | Anyone know what OPAC CSS class is giving the Koha nav bar (top bar) the black color |
| 17:07 | I can't find it with Chrome Inspector | |
| 17:08 | only black I am finding is for color: #33333; in the Body{} and that should be for font colors | |
| 17:12 | Joubu | black? it's all blue |
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| 17:16 | Joubu | khall: ping on bug 12123, can you share an example that breaks the display/js please? |
| 17:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , HTML notices can break the notice viewer |
| 17:22 | Joubu | @later tell kidclamp did not you write a patch to remove the ability to delete "core" notice templates? |
| 17:22 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:24 | oleonard | Shane-S: .navbar-inverse .navbar-inner { background: linear-gradient(to bottom,#194e87 0,#0f3666 100%); } |
| 17:32 | Joubu | kidclamp: bug 20562 is major, right? regression? |
| 17:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20562 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , issue_id is not stored in accountlines for rental fees |
| 17:33 | khall | Joubu: kidclamp working on a patch right now |
| 17:33 | Joubu | ok |
| 17:34 | Shane-S | Joubu: http://library.npelem.com/ I see black on MacBookPro |
| 17:35 | oleonard: TY! http://whes.npelem.com/ works | |
| 17:36 | Joubu | heh... opac... sorry |
| 17:37 | Shane-S | np, figured that was what you meant with all blue...but I also pulled my data from a 3.20 install...so wasn't sure of a color preference carried over |
| 17:38 | * tcohen | uploaded an image: image.png (245KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]aiATnGHqdrCHrcqml> |
| 17:39 | Shane-S | There anyway to send donations like coffee/beer money to the project? |
| 17:40 | Only because I feel bad as I don't contribute and I have used Koha now for 4 years in my building | |
| 17:40 | tcohen | Shane-S: kohacon18? |
| 17:41 | Joubu | Shane-S: test patches!! |
| 17:41 | join the documentation team | |
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| 17:42 | oleonard | Mail cookies to developers! |
| 17:42 | Joubu | Shane-S: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Getting_involved |
| 17:42 | khall | Joubu: kidclamp patch for 20562 is up |
| 17:43 | Shane-S | bug 7646 I have tried :) |
| 17:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ssammons, Failed QA , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing |
| 17:44 | Shane-S | Just never have time to code much I have 300 kids breaking chromebooks all day :) |
| 17:44 | I had to use Easter Break to migrate the server, where will KohaCon 2018 be? | |
| 17:45 | Any chance North Carolina (I want to take a trip down there anyway) | |
| 17:45 | oleonard | Portland, Oregon |
| 17:45 | So, maybe it's on the way? | |
| 17:46 | tcohen | Shane-S: http://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 17:46 | Shane-S | Not...quite...Im in New Jersey....but maybe |
| 17:46 | tcohen | we pick a different continent each year |
| 17:47 | Shane-S: you still owe those cookies, you better think seriously about it | |
| 17:47 | he | |
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| 17:49 | Shane-S | well I have to give some to damn near the whole channel...plane ticket and pizzas might be cheaper in Portland |
| 17:49 | who am I kidding, I have a 2yr old and a newborn, my wife isn't letting me go anywhere unless she is set free too :) | |
| 17:55 | Joubu | #action Shane-S send cookies to the whole channel |
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| 18:45 | Joubu | josef_moravec: "with ISE"? |
| 18:46 | josef_moravec | Joubu: yes, i was looking into developer tools/network panel, ajax calling of /svc/letters/preview returns 500 Internal server error |
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| 18:50 | Joubu | josef_moravec: got it, thanks! |
| 18:50 | josef_moravec | Joubu: great |
| 18:53 | roch | Is the qa-tools supposed to tell me if my commit messsages are invalid ? I ran the tools on my commits for this issues https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12747 but it showed no errors |
| 18:53 | huginn | Bug 12747: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Failed QA , Add extra column in Z3950 search result |
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| 18:53 | oleonard | Bug 12747 - Add extra column in Z3950 search ...should be: Bug 12747: Add extra column in Z3950 search |
| 18:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12747 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Failed QA , Add extra column in Z3950 search result |
| 18:54 | oleonard | colon instead of hyphen |
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| 18:55 | roch | woops! I missed that. Thanks :) |
| 18:56 | Joubu | josef_moravec: follow-up submitted. But... if you are going to PQA it, you should ask oleonard to rebase bug 18007 |
| 18:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Interface updates to notices and notice previews |
| 18:56 | oleonard | Easy to miss |
| 18:57 | Joubu | roch: did you update the qa-tools repo? |
| 18:57 | oleonard | Bye all |
| 19:02 | Joubu | khall: I do not understand your answer on bug 20562, but just realised I made a typo, it was "or", not "of" |
| 19:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20562 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , issue_id is not stored in accountlines for rental fees |
| 19:03 | Joubu | I wanted to know if it was a regression (in that case we should find the cause) or if the problem exists since issue_id has been added to this table (long time ago iirc) |
| 19:03 | khall | Joubu: it's a bug, but not a regression |
| 19:03 | Joubu | since 3.22 then, that's bad |
| 19:03 | khall | you are exactly right, it we never implemented when issue_id was added to accountlines |
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| 19:06 | roch | Joubu using qa-tools from github, I tried to update but nothing new. last commit was on 2014-08-18 13:07 , is there a more recent version somewhere? |
| 19:07 | Joubu | outch, yes, a lot |
| 19:07 | a lot of commits | |
| 19:07 | https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools | |
| 19:07 | qa-test-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools | |
| 19:07 | qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools | |
| 19:07 | qa-tools? | |
| 19:08 | wahanui: qa-tools? | |
| 19:08 | wahanui: hi stupid bot! | |
| 19:08 | wahanui | well, qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools |
| 19:08 | qa-tools is https://gitlab.com/koha-community/qa-test-tools | |
| 19:08 | Joubu: i'm not following you... | |
| 19:09 | Joubu | yes, too slow |
| 19:10 | not stupid, just slow. Sorry wahanui | |
| 19:10 | roch | OK thanks! We were up to date with the version on github - from 2014!! |
| 19:12 | Joubu | it has been announced on the list I think |
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| 19:51 | bag | @seen cait |
| 19:51 | huginn | bag: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 56 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <cait> will be travelling |
| 19:51 | bag | ahh |
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| 19:54 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: DBRev 17.12.00.027 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3f0dc38b0f1c3cfe> |
| 19:54 | News from kohagit: Bug 18674: (QA follow-up) Add date and time <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f870a48058a25d6ec> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19904: (follow-up) Add Nick Clemens as RM assistant <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c2c8e36ca3ad4900> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20552: Fix HTML tag for search facets <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9949b4e6e2e54694b> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: (follow-up) Add existing fields to the ACQ framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bdd5ea56a6ff65e1a> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19904: Release team for 18.05 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e7ef1104c4fdfeb6> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20540: (follow-up) Remove debug line <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae85df2e8be3e3649> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20540: Fix TransformHtmlToXml if last tag is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]091fbba864dfb91c9> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Extend size of inputs to 50 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ee5c08fc43d0b5d3> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20536: (ILL) authnotrequired should be explicitly unset on opac <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b0f443753138d7f2> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20518: Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if there are no... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]286a3f49d0b171e0b> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use copyrightdate instead of publicationyear for MARC21 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9fa37e96047e4a74> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 20104: Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9caea1624399c21a4> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use jQuery validate plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8be1278781d1cc482> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 9634: Allow for combining same paraneters in SQL reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee9b47f7cb086002b> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19538: Move EnableAdvancedCatalogingEdtor from 'Labs' to 'Cataloging' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9bbbc85dcc66a160c> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52d3e070203376a05> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Add existing fields to the ACQ framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]793353803038d98d3> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 19289: Use the ACQ framework to display bibliographic details <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]330dede0f602742d0> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Simplify update_lastseen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55acb6f803c7816d6> | |
| 19:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 18625: Update lastseen in patron info request <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7bb18618ea740cace> | |
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| 20:25 | cait | helo |
| 20:25 | hello even | |
| 20:25 | did i miss it? | |
| 20:30 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #429: UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/429/ |
| 20:30 | * kyle: Bug 20123: Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones | |
| 20:30 | * kyle: Bug 20123: (QA follow-up) If tz is 'local', no need to tell database to | |
| 20:30 | * kyle: Bug 20123: Add commented out example to koha-conf.xml | |
| 20:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server |
| 20:30 | jenkins | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20123: Make the timezone entry empty and uncommented by default |
| 20:30 | * mtompset: Bug 18674: Added timezone information to about page | |
| 20:30 | * mtompset: Bug 18674: Allow TZ SetEnv for plack | |
| 20:30 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: Style changes to match other entries | |
| 20:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Show timezone for Perl and MySQL on the About Koha page |
| 20:30 | jenkins | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: TZ error handling |
| 20:30 | * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18674: (QA follow-up) Add date and time | |
| 20:30 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 9634: Allow for combining same paraneters in SQL reports | |
| 20:30 | * oleonard: Bug 20518: Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if | |
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| 20:30 | jenkins | * Nick Clemens: Bug 19538: Move EnableAdvancedCatalogingEdtor from 'Labs' to |
| 20:30 | * claire.gravely: Bug 20552: Fix HTML tag for search facets | |
| 20:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports |
| 20:30 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Don't show "Messages" header and link on patron details if there are no messages | |
| 20:30 | jenkins | * martin.renvoize: Bug 20536: (ILL) authnotrequired should be explicitly unset on opac |
| 20:30 | * mtompset: Bug 20104: Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 | |
| 20:30 | * Nick Clemens: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Unit tests | |
| 20:30 | * colin.campbell: Bug 18625: Update lastseen in patron info request | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Advanced editor - Rancor - Move syspref from labs to cataloging and remove experimental note |
| 20:31 | jenkins | * m.de.rooy: Bug 18625: (QA follow-up) Simplify update_lastseen |
| 20:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 20540: Fix TransformHtmlToXml if last tag is empty | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20552 minor, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, Pushed to Master , Fix HTML tag for search facets |
| 20:31 | jenkins | * katrin.fischer: Bug 20540: (follow-up) Remove debug line |
| 20:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Add existing fields to the ACQ framework | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20536 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , ILL: authnotrequired not explicitly unset |
| 20:31 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20104 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 | |
| 20:31 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use the ACQ framework to display bibliographic details |
| 20:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use jQuery validate plugin | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Update borrower last seen from SIP |
| 20:31 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Use copyrightdate instead of publicationyear for MARC21 |
| 20:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: Extend size of inputs to 50 | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20540 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , TransformHtmlToXml can duplicate </datafield> |
| 20:31 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19289 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Allow configuration of the fields on the 'Catalog details' form in the acquisition baskets | |
| 20:31 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: (follow-up) Add existing fields to the ACQ framework |
| 20:31 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19289: DBRev 17.12.00.027 | |
| 20:31 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 19904: Release team for 18.05 | |
| 20:31 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 19904: (follow-up) Add Nick Clemens as RM assistant | |
| 20:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Release team 18.05 |
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| 21:01 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 21:01 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 21:01 | cait: I'm around now :) | |
| 21:01 | haha | |
| 21:01 | davidnind | waves |
| 21:01 | LeeJ | hi davidnind |
| 21:01 | cait | hi all |
| 21:01 | LeeJ | just catching my breath and we'll start in a sec :) |
| 21:01 | davidnind | hi all as well |
| 21:01 | clintD | good morning |
| 21:01 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 21:01 | cait | my internet connection is not very stabl |
| 21:01 | e | |
| 21:02 | i might get kicked out, but hope not | |
| 21:02 | LeeJ | cait: no worries :) |
| 21:02 | shall we begin? | |
| 21:02 | Joubu | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018 |
| 21:02 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 21:02:30 2018 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:02 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:02 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_11_april_2018' |
| 21:02 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 21:02 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:02 | Joubu | #chair LeeJ |
| 21:02 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu LeeJ |
| 21:02 | Joubu | #chair cait |
| 21:02 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu LeeJ cait |
| 21:02 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 21:02 | LeeJ | #info LeeJ, Marywood University |
| 21:03 | georgew | #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 21:03 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 21:03 | cait | #Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 21:03 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
| 21:03 | clintD | #Clint Deckard, Anact, New Zealand |
| 21:03 | LeeJ | #topic What's been done so far |
| 21:03 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:04 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_11_April_2018 |
| 21:04 | LeeJ | #info documentation (GitLab) training webinar was held as scheduled per last meeting's minutes by LeeJ |
| 21:04 | indradg | #info Indranil Das Gupta, L2C2 Technologies, India. |
| 21:05 | LeeJ | hello all :) |
| 21:05 | has anyone not been added to the kohadocs Taiga who wishes to be? | |
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| 21:05 | Joubu | #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]on-kohadocs-1805/ |
| 21:06 | LeeJ | I'll take the silence as a no :) |
| 21:06 | #topic Workflows | |
| 21:06 | Topic for #koha is now Workflows (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:07 | LeeJ | Joubu cait I was hoping for brief clarification..how has it been handled in the past when a docs bug has been filed for the documentation but also might apply to the code base? |
| 21:07 | Bug 20555 | |
| 21:07 | as an example | |
| 21:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , usage() function in cleanup_database.pl needs refactoring |
| 21:08 | LeeJ | whoops! wrong bug xD |
| 21:08 | actually that was right | |
| 21:09 | Joubu | there is a "Manual" keyword |
| 21:09 | I'd use it to tell the documentation team needs to adapt the manual | |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | okay |
| 21:10 | because I'm taking the time right after the meeting to updating the edit the manual wiki with a proper procedure | |
| 21:10 | tcohen | Joubu: added a followup on bug 20123 |
| 21:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server |
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| 21:12 | cait | :( |
| 21:12 | LeeJ | hmm..anyone have a suggestion on how to update cleanup_database.pl per the bug/process of it? |
| 21:12 | davidnind | that will be useful, just trying to work through the workflow - will try with something easy first, then get stuck in |
| 21:13 | * cait | gets out the duct tape |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | davidnind: I'm always available to assist |
| 21:13 | tcohen | @seen Joubu |
| 21:13 | huginn | tcohen: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 53 seconds ago: <Joubu> I'd use it to tell the documentation team needs to adapt the manual |
| 21:13 | cait | LeeJ: i tihnk fix the script first, manual second |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | cait: right |
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| 21:14 | davidnind | virtual duck tape, does it exist, where can I buy some? |
| 21:15 | LeeJ | Joubu: I think it would be your call on how best to word the -m flag..I'll admit I'm somewhat confused how it should be updated |
| 21:15 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20123: (follow-up) Mock timezone in t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5c986a6243ee69c6> |
| 21:16 | Joubu | LeeJ: let's talk about it on the bug report later ;) |
| 21:16 | LeeJ | I want to thank barton for providing that bug..we can use it as training :) |
| 21:16 | Joubu: sounds good | |
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| 21:16 | LeeJ | I digress |
| 21:17 | #info LeeJ will update the Editing the Manual wiki page with a standardized workflow for handling documentation/documentation bugs | |
| 21:18 | #info Joubu is still in need of feedback on Bug 19817 | |
| 21:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Merge local and online documentations |
| 21:18 | LeeJ | anything to add from anyone before the next topic? |
| 21:19 | #topic Next steps | |
| 21:19 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:20 | LeeJ | #info LeeJ will be sending out a Doodle poll to schedule a sprint day to hopefully get everyone organized..whatever day is picked he will make himself available the whole day |
| 21:21 | Joubu | Where can we see the progress on documentation of the 18.05 new features? |
| 21:21 | davidnind | excellent idea! |
| 21:21 | cait1 | :) |
| 21:21 | if you pick a day after 20th i will try to join | |
| 21:21 | caroline | it would be before the 18,05 release? |
| 21:22 | LeeJ | Joubu: I'll bang out the details of that when I get home from work because I needed to pick your brain on that very topic |
| 21:22 | caroline: yes :) | |
| 21:22 | the goal of the sprint day is to catch the documentation up to the current status of the 18.05 code base | |
| 21:23 | dotting our i's and crossing our t's so to speak | |
| 21:23 | davidnind | I guess it should be in Taiga, I can go through and add all the bugs from Bugzilla for 18.05 commits |
| 21:24 | caroline | +1 |
| 21:24 | cait1 | davidnind++ |
| 21:24 | LeeJ | davidnind that would be a big help |
| 21:24 | davidnind++ | |
| 21:24 | davidnind | then we can make sure the release notes are covered off for each item |
| 21:24 | will start on this this evening | |
| 21:24 | cait1 | davidnind: i think there are some preliminary release notes you could use as base |
| 21:24 | LeeJ | I like the way you think :) |
| 21:25 | cait1 | Joubu: does the page still exist? |
| 21:25 | Joubu | since the beginning of the release cycle, yes |
| 21:25 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, BWS |
| 21:25 | Joubu | release notse? |
| 21:25 | release notes? | |
| 21:25 | wahanui | release notes are in misc/release_notes |
| 21:25 | davidnind | they are always a good starting point, will probably need some tweaking to reflect how people use Koha |
| 21:25 | LeeJ | :O |
| 21:25 | barton | (better late than never) |
| 21:25 | Joubu | release notes is https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_17_12_00.md |
| 21:25 | cait1 | Joubu: lost the link :( |
| 21:26 | davidnind | the new features and enhancements will probably require the most work :) |
| 21:26 | LeeJ | agreed davidnind |
| 21:26 | Joubu | release notes is https://gitlab.com/joubu/koha-[…]notes_17_12_00.md |
| 21:26 | caroline | they're the most useful, they should be priority |
| 21:26 | Joubu | (I have forced pushed and it seems it has not been synced) |
| 21:27 | davidnind | although sometimes bug fixes can take up time as you try and work out what the problem is..was... |
| 21:27 | LeeJ | Joubu++ # for the link |
| 21:27 | davidnind: I'll hop on IRC when I'm home later and see how much we can get done | |
| 21:28 | davidnind | home time for me will be in about 8-9 hours |
| 21:28 | LeeJ | #info LeeJ will be working with davidnind to update kohadocs with new 18.05 features |
| 21:28 | davidnind: ahh right. timezones :) | |
| 21:29 | davidnind | I should probably do some work while I'm a work today |
| 21:29 | LeeJ | anyway..I'll hammer out those details with you later davidnind |
| 21:29 | davidnind | ;-) |
| 21:29 | LeeJ | anyone else have anything to add? anything I missed? |
| 21:29 | davidnind | a.. should be at! |
| 21:30 | cait1 | i've added something about moving interesting things from the help files to th emanual |
| 21:30 | reconciling them before the help files get removed | |
| 21:30 | but as git has it all, that is not as urgent as the new things i think | |
| 21:31 | LeeJ | #idea cait mentioned moving interesting things from help files to the manual |
| 21:32 | davidnind | I guess it comes down to priorities in the time available to 18.05 - release notes, new features and enhancements documented, manual brought as up-to-date as possible (with sprint day) |
| 21:32 | barton | I like that idea. |
| 21:33 | davidnind | cait always has excellent ideas! |
| 21:33 | caroline | hear hear! :) |
| 21:33 | LeeJ | davidnind: I think the order should be new features then release notes..minor but still :) |
| 21:33 | cait1++ | |
| 21:34 | #info kohadocs updates will be handled with the priority of new features, release notes, enhancements, etc. | |
| 21:34 | davidnind | that's fine too... better to have a plan than no plan at all |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | well if no one has anything else, let's figure next meeting time |
| 21:35 | Joubu: is the 18.05 release around May 28th? | |
| 21:35 | Joubu | May 22th |
| 21:35 | cait1 | 22 |
| 21:35 | LeeJ | ah ok |
| 21:35 | so then how about next meeting same day same time next month? | |
| 21:36 | Joubu | It will be a Friday |
| 21:36 | LeeJ | oh dear |
| 21:36 | hmm | |
| 21:36 | May 9th then? | |
| 21:36 | Joubu | will be a dev meeting |
| 21:37 | but before, like today actually | |
| 21:37 | so that's fine | |
| 21:37 | caroline | may 9 works for me |
| 21:37 | LeeJ | so it'll be 14 UTC for dev? |
| 21:37 | Joubu | yes |
| 21:37 | LeeJ | okay |
| 21:37 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 21:37 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 11 April 2018) | |
| 21:38 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 9 May 2018, 21 UTC |
| 21:38 | LeeJ | thank you Joubu :) |
| 21:38 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:38 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 21:38 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 21:38:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:38 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-11-21.02.html | |
| 21:38 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-04-11-21.02.txt | |
| 21:38 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]11-21.02.log.html | |
| 21:38 | LeeJ | thank you all for coming |
| 21:38 | davidnind | LeeJ++ |
| 21:38 | LeeJ | davidnind++ |
| 21:38 | caroline | Thanks LeeJ |
| 21:38 | LeeJ | thank you for coming caroline |
| 21:39 | alright! Time to head home then log back in at some point! :D | |
| 21:39 | Joubu | bye #koha |
| 21:39 | davidnind | have a great day/evening everyone! |
| 21:40 | clintD | davidnind was the doc webinar recorded anywhere? |
| 21:41 | cait1 | davidnind++ # awesome job on twitter, wiki and everywhere |
| 21:42 | davidnind | it wasn't ClintD, hopefully LeeJ's updates to wiki page should help. I'm sure he'd be happy to do a quick walk through for you. |
| 21:42 | I think LeeJ had an earlier video he recorded, will find the link for this if I can and send it to you | |
| 21:42 | clintD | ok, thank you |
| 21:43 | cait1 | it's on the editing the manual? |
| 21:43 | page | |
| 21:43 | editing manual? | |
| 21:43 | hm | |
| 21:44 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual | |
| 21:44 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiwH7-wO2Gs | |
| 21:45 | clintD | thank you cait, got that |
| 21:45 | davidnind | cait1: :-[, just learning my way at the moment with Twitter - trying not to post too much - there is a lot happening around the world with Koha |
| 21:45 | cait++ should have thought of that! | |
| 21:45 | cait1 | I think you do very well |
| 21:46 | there is a lot of buzz from other projects in library space and we have been very quiet | |
| 21:46 | it's good to see that changed | |
| 21:47 | davidnind | I hope it will help - my initial 'plan' is to focus on 1) sharing what's happening in the community (events, meetings, etc) |
| 21:48 | 2) raising awareness (new Koha libraries, usage, case studies, etc) | |
| 21:49 | 3) help with learning about Koha: features, tips, useful resources to get the most out of Koha (the manual will certainly help here) | |
| 21:49 | caroline | davidnind where do you get the info? hashtag kohails? |
| 21:50 | cait1 | excellent plan |
| 21:50 | davidnind | caroline: #kohails, search for koha + library, community members and support providers (twitter, websites, etc), mailing list |
| 21:50 | cait1 | if we wanted to make you aware of something |
| 21:50 | what would be the best way? | |
| 21:50 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 21:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 21:50 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #430: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/430/ |
| 21:50 | Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 20123: (follow-up) Mock timezone in t/Auth_with_shibboleth.t | |
| 21:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server |
| 21:51 | davidnind | have started a list of things I can monitor, including the IRC channel |
| 21:51 | will share this on my git lab account in the next day or two | |
| 21:52 | happy for people to send me stuff - david dot nind at gmail dot com | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | can also send via twitter eh, by tagging in @kohails |
| 21:52 | caroline | +1 |
| 21:52 | cait1 | would you also receive a pm to kohails? |
| 21:52 | davidnind | will add this to social media plan page I intend to add to wiki, to get some initial feedback |
| 21:52 | cait1 | well direct message |
| 21:54 | davidnind | cait1: I hope that will work, have access to the kohails account using tweetdeck.twitter.com |
| 21:55 | cait1 | hm i think dm might be turned off |
| 21:55 | email will work :) | |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | I don't feel like the community twitter should have DM's turned off |
| 21:56 | davidnind | will check the tweetdeck manual and test it out this evening |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | (until such time as it is say, attracting harassment. Which it probably won't.) |
| 21:56 | caroline | it may be because it's not always monitored? |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | DM's are like email. |
| 21:57 | just in twitter. | |
| 21:57 | caroline | if someone sends a dm and never gets an answer, it might not look good |
| 21:57 | davidnind | Jonathan has the full account login details, will get him to check if I can't change this in TweetDeck |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | cool :) |
| 21:57 | davidnind | wizzyrea: agree! |
| 21:58 | cait1 | @later LeeJ Bug 20565 - Clearer documentation of date, branches, itemtypes and categorycode parameters in 'Create report from SQL' help page |
| 21:58 | huginn | cait1: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 21:59 | davidnind | also item 4) in plan - encourage participation, for example remind about meetings, highlight how community members can contribute such as translation, manual, sign-off, etc |
| 21:59 | cait1 | i like how you picked up questions |
| 21:59 | sadly i have no idea about what omeka exactly does | |
| 22:00 | davidnind | and, one which I'll see how it works is 5) help with any questions: will resort to posting to mailing list if I can't readily find an answer |
| 22:00 | clintD | Omeka is a repository for digital resources |
| 22:01 | davidnind | for sharing digital collections: http://omeka.org/classic/ |
| 22:02 | clintD++ | |
| 22:03 | right, better get back to work! see you all later... | |
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| 22:30 | talljoy | hi koha |
| 22:30 | cait joined #koha | |
| 22:35 | talljoy | hi cait |
| 23:33 | * indradg | waves at talljoy |
| 23:34 | talljoy | hiya indradg |
| 23:35 | indradg | :) |
| 23:36 | talljoy | indradg, have you ever seen the 942$s (serial flag) in use? |
| 23:37 | indradg | talljoy, not that i can recall |
| 23:39 | talljoy | curious tag. i suspect it is a deprecated tag. i need to find someone from koha 2.0 days |
| 23:41 | indradg | yeah... i only started on Koha from 2.2 |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | oh are you migrating out of a 2.0 |
| 23:42 | talljoy | ha. thankfully no! |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | those are fun. |
| 23:42 | talljoy | i had a library ask about the 942$s biblio.serial flag |
| 23:43 | wizzyrea | git would probably know |
| 23:44 | talljoy | git would know. |
| 23:45 | i've pinged khall to investigate on my behalf. benefit 1 - he's been around koha a while 2- he know git well. | |
| 23:45 | :D | |
| 23:46 | rangi | its just a flag, wether the item is a serial or not, when you add a subscription to a biblio, it flips that to 1, its either on or off |
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