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07:07 | gaetan_B | hello |
07:07 | wahanui | hi, gaetan_B |
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07:44 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
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08:04 | cait | good morning #koha! |
08:17 | I guess most of Europe is on holiday today :) | |
08:18 | tuxayo | cait: really? |
08:18 | wahanui | really is more trouble than she's worth. |
08:18 | cait | oh, no holiday in france? |
08:18 | tuxayo | shouldn't you be in holiday in Germany? |
08:18 | cait: no | |
08:18 | cait | i am on holiday, just choosing to make it a qa day :) |
08:19 | we are getting close to release time! | |
08:20 | tuxayo | cait: you have strange hobbies :P |
08:20 | Do you like marking patches as failed QA that much? | |
08:21 | eythian | cait: no holiday here too |
08:22 | cait | I tihnk i already otld you yesterday that you picked the wrong country ;) |
08:22 | tuxayo: don't tempt me ;) | |
08:33 | but if you look at the stats on the dashboard, you see I am not only failing | |
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09:11 | tuxayo | cait: indeed :D |
09:11 | great numbers there! | |
09:11 | cait++ | |
09:43 | cait | @later tell tcohen Can https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/REST_api_RFCs be updated for patrons now and possible others? Which are the next you need a comment on? |
09:43 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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10:13 | kidclamp | cait ping |
10:19 | cait | pong! :) |
11:01 | alex_a: around? | |
11:02 | alex_a | cait: yep |
11:02 | cait | could you take another look at bug 20385? |
11:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20385 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , ElasticSearch authority search raises Software error |
11:02 | cait | nick just passed the dependent patch for unimarc auth, so we need to resolve this one too :) |
11:03 | alex_a | cait: do it after lunch |
11:03 | :) | |
11:03 | cait | thank you! |
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12:08 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
12:12 | oleonard | Hi cait |
12:17 | cait: When testing 19474 and/or 20427 remember that you shouldn't apply the compiled CSS patches. Skip them and regenerate the CSS via the yarn build commands. | |
12:17 | cait | ok! |
12:17 | :) | |
12:17 | oleonard | Thanks! |
12:17 | cait | i had indeed not thought about that |
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12:23 | cait | oleonard: I CC'd you on a patch for highlighting |
12:26 | oleonard: patches apply now, testing :) | |
12:28 | oleonard: should I worry about that? [12:27:40] gulp-autoprefixer: | |
12:28 | autoprefixer: /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/src/opac.css:897:3: Gradient has outdated direction syntax. New syntax is like `to left` instead of `right`. | |
12:28 | oleonard | It's a coding-style warning, so it's not dangerous. I hope to resolve it but can't seem to figure out what is triggering it. |
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12:35 | cait | oleonard: found a small thing i think |
12:36 | the suggestio message at the bottom of the result list | |
12:36 | there is a list style point | |
12:36 | but that's really the only thing i have spotted so far, can you confirm? | |
12:36 | * oleonard | digs a hole and climbs into it |
12:36 | cait | huh? |
12:36 | oleonard | I can't here you down here in the pit of shame |
12:37 | cait | it feels a little like you might be overreacting |
12:37 | unless i missed something really huge and then I should be down there | |
12:39 | eythian | geez oleonard. I thought better of you. |
12:39 | Look what you've gone and done. | |
12:41 | oleonard | cait: I confirm. |
12:42 | cait | want to throw in a quick followup? |
12:42 | i am done otherwise and happy | |
12:42 | ok, i found a bug in course reserves... but that's just the usual :) | |
12:42 | poking at something and finding a completely unrelated problem | |
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12:43 | cait | hello jenkins, did you sleep in too? |
12:43 | brb | |
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12:46 | * oleonard | climbs out of his hole and fills it back in |
12:46 | oleonard | cait: What you see is also in master. |
12:59 | cait | oleonard-away: lol ok :) |
12:59 | pqa! | |
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13:06 | oleonard | <3 |
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13:22 | cait | oleonard: can you remind me of the bug with the missing screenshot from me? |
13:23 | oleonard | Bug 20044 |
13:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging |
13:29 | cait | alex_a++ khall++ kidclamp++ thx all :) |
13:29 | alex_a | cait++ |
13:29 | (for the reminder) | |
13:29 | cait | :) |
13:29 | maybe Bug 19581 next? :) | |
13:32 | alex_a | cait: i'll take a look asap |
13:32 | nlegrand | $ curl http://bouse02.prive.bulac.fr:9200/_cat/indices?v |
13:32 | health status index uuid pri rep docs.count docs.deleted store.size pri.store.size | |
13:32 | yellow open koha_robin_biblios vFgnihNqQy2bvKBiLmlwpw 5 1 1060274 0 10.4gb 10.4gb | |
13:33 | cait | alex_a: another candidate for you is Bug 19575 - Use canonical field names and resolve aliased fields - nick signed off, so he is out |
13:34 | nlegrand | We made some test with our catalog loaded in ES, the results are : indexing is faster, it takes less space on disks and we find more stuffs than before. |
13:34 | It's not perfect, but it is far better :). | |
13:34 | cait | the right stuffs too? |
13:35 | nlegrand | cait: not always, we find that searching with quotes gave more accurate results. |
13:35 | cait | with zebra or with elastic? |
13:35 | nlegrand | kidclamp: you remember your problem with chinese ? |
13:36 | cait: with ES | |
13:37 | alex_a | cait: put it on my to do list |
13:37 | nlegrand | cait: also, our Zebra was not that well tuned. |
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13:45 | cait | alex_a: cool thx! |
13:46 | nlegrand: i think it might work a little better with marc21, but not sure (zebra) | |
13:57 | alex_a | kidclamp: around? |
13:58 | kidclamp | sort of |
13:58 | gimme a few | |
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14:03 | cait | We got a question about a possible change in behavour with lost editing (make it consistent) on bug 19974 - would be great to get some additional feedback |
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14:05 | nlegrand | kidclamp you remember your bug with chinese? Putting "" around cures it. |
14:05 | kidclamp | weird nlegrand |
14:07 | whats up alex_a? | |
14:07 | nlegrand | curl -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -d '{ "query": {"match": { "title" : "中國翻譯"}}}' find it. If I search in Koha form without quotes, is find nothing. |
14:08 | *finds | |
14:09 | kidclamp | so maybe we just need to look at how we build the query that was pass |
14:09 | alex_a | kidclamp: do you know if there is a limit in elasticsearch to the weight we can pass on fields ? |
14:09 | Did'nt find anything in the ES doc | |
14:11 | kidclamp | I don't know of any limit, I think boost values can be arbitrary |
14:13 | nlegrand | no limit is not something to put in the hands of librarians :) |
14:14 | tuxayo | cait around? |
14:15 | cait | yep |
14:18 | alex_a | kidclamp: thx |
14:20 | * tuxayo | sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-03-30_14:20:38.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]QEOQidfVUayGwXaoq> |
14:20 | tuxayo | oups |
14:21 | I guess it triggered the long message behavior so I'll fragment it. | |
14:21 | cait I think I've done everything which had to be done before submitting bug 12310 for sign off. | |
14:21 | My current patch is here: https://gitlab.com/tuxayo/Koha[…]5e29636b670e4c3e5 | |
14:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12310 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input |
14:21 | tuxayo | The question is how to make the test plan shorter. |
14:21 | Can I add something like «you don't have to try every case for all the fields when having done a full pass on the 1st field» without compromising too the quality of the test plan? | |
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14:29 | cait | kidclamp: added naother comment to the lost bug, i think hte pref is misleading too |
14:29 | tuxayo: taking a look now | |
14:30 | tuxayo | thanks :) |
14:30 | cait | tuxayo: if you edit it, don't use → - they look strange on command line :) |
14:30 | Joubu | tcohen: you took care of jenkins, that's it? |
14:30 | hi #koha | |
14:31 | cait | hi Joubu! |
14:31 | Joubu | tcohen: koha_1 | [14:20:23] t/db_dependent/00-strict.t ..................................... ok 572524 ms |
14:31 | should be o | |
14:31 | ok | |
14:32 | cait | tuxayo: did you add currency smbols in acq? |
14:32 | tcohen | yes, updated the koha-testing-docker image when received Mirko s email |
14:33 | Joubu | vs |
14:33 | koha_1 | [21:33:00] t/db_dependent/00-strict.t ..................................... ok 1055848 ms | |
14:33 | cait | tuxayo: i think i am alrady a bit confused about the changes :) |
14:33 | Joubu | before the speed improvement patches |
14:33 | cait | tuxayo: i'd probably split it |
14:34 | make a start page for either acq or fines | |
14:34 | to demonstrate | |
14:34 | and then do the other module separately | |
14:34 | this will also shorten your test plan | |
14:35 | tuxayo | cait: oh I love "→" but it must not look good on some fonts. Ok, I note the change. |
14:35 | «did you add currency smbols in acq»: no | |
14:36 | cait | good :) |
14:36 | for users we should have it, but in acq it will only clutter | |
14:36 | too many numbers there | |
14:36 | Joubu | tuxayo: did you start already? |
14:36 | tuxayo | «make a start page» ? → start patch? → initial patch? |
14:36 | Joubu: start what? | |
14:37 | cait | tuxayo: start with a small part, and listen to Joubu :) |
14:37 | Joubu | 12310 |
14:37 | kidclamp | always listen to Joubu, except when he is wrong |
14:38 | Joubu | tuxayo: you really (but really) should not fix alignement in your patches |
14:38 | like: | |
14:38 | - <input type="button" value="Save" onclick="Check(this.form)" /> | |
14:38 | + <input type="button" value="Save" onclick="Check(this.form)" /> | |
14:38 | or empty lines | |
14:38 | (merge conflicts) | |
14:40 | tuxayo: I think we should follow what I did on bug 4078 for the separator between the symbol and the amount | |
14:40 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the ability to customize and display the symbol for a currency |
14:41 | Joubu | it is also what we should do for the "display the symbol before or after the amount" setting (not implemented yet) |
14:41 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
14:41 | Joubu | it? |
14:43 | oleonard | cait: I guess we need to get more opinions on Bug 20044? |
14:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Switch single-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Cataloging |
14:43 | oleonard | Before: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=73490 |
14:43 | After: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=73489 | |
14:43 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
14:43 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
14:43 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #414: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/414/ |
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14:51 | tuxayo | cait: |
14:51 | 1. only fines is enough or too big? | |
14:51 | 2. What about «Can I add something like «you don't have to try every case for all the fields when having done a full pass on the 1st field» without compromising too much the quality of the test plan?» | |
14:51 | Joubu: | |
14:51 | 3. fix alignment: can I split the alignment in another patch? Or is it a waste of time to try to fix alignment bit by bit compared to just ignore these issues? | |
14:51 | 4. Should alignment fixes be in the first or last patch? I suspect that there might be a trap there. | |
14:51 | 5. yes I started it, it's been almost 20 time I amend the code for refactoring or bug fixes ^^" | |
14:51 | 6. «I think we should follow what I did on bug 4078 for the separator between the symbol and the amount» | |
14:51 | There is nothing specific about symbol is this patch. It just removes everything that is not a digit,-,or a separtor. | |
14:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the ability to customize and display the symbol for a currency |
14:51 | tuxayo | I'll rephrase the commit message to reflect ↑ |
14:52 | Joubu | oleonard: did you take care of bug 19641 comment 27? |
14:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move patron templates JavaScript to the footer |
14:52 | cait | only fines should be ok |
14:52 | but please use normal quotes too :) | |
14:53 | it's ok to give examples on the test plan, you don't have to be extensive | |
14:53 | oleonard | Sorry Joubu I missed that. I'll work on it. |
14:53 | cait | some can be left to testers |
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15:06 | Joubu | khall, cait: about the TT syntax for notices, I think we should announce it ready (experimental) for 18.05 and then make the switch (new install use TT syntax as default) for 18.11, would you agree with that? |
15:08 | khall | Good plan joubu! |
15:12 | cait | sounds good |
15:12 | i was trying to see how far we got, but was a bit lost | |
15:12 | is there stuff missing still? | |
15:12 | Joubu | cait: I do not remember... |
15:20 | tuxayo: sorry, lagging... | |
15:20 | cait | Joubu: i didn't see something obvious, but probabl worht checking |
15:20 | khall: could you draw up some basic examples for people ont he wiki maybe? | |
15:20 | Joubu | 3, 4. Do not fix alignement, only fix it if you are editing the line or working inside the block (can be subjective) |
15:21 | most of the examples from the wiki can be found in the tests | |
15:21 | I have provided the equivalent TT syntax for them | |
15:21 | (that was the main goal of the "provide equivalent TT version" omnibus bug) | |
15:23 | tuxayo: just keep in mind: if it is relative to a currency (can be different from one currency to another) you need to add an attribute to the currency, not a syspref | |
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15:25 | Shane-S | Hi all, I keep trying to stay here and get answers but keeping getting pulled away so I am sorry if you answered me prior I missed them. |
15:25 | I have 12.20.02 and I going to build a new VM with 16.04LTS and packages so I assume the 17.11 install. Can I migrate the data easily? | |
15:26 | cait | what is 12.20.02? |
15:26 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #415: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/415/ |
15:26 | Shane-S | Koha is 12.20.02 |
15:27 | sorry, and I will use Ubuntu 16.04LTS on the new server and likely MariaDB | |
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15:30 | Shane-S | okay..I wrote something wrong.... |
15:30 | Koha version:3.20.02.000 | |
15:30 | Not sure where I got 12 from in my notes | |
15:31 | cait | oh that's a big jump |
15:32 | make sure you do this: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix | |
15:32 | Shane-S | yeah other projects kept pulling me away...it was broken stuff vs upgrading working stuff...so obviously they wanted broken things fixed |
15:33 | cait | and also check your dbms version against htese notes to see if you need to disable strict mode: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]a_on_Debian#MySQL.7CMariaDB |
15:33 | Shane-S | Now Koha is semi broken, as a new record takes 5 minutes to add (likely because the drive is full) |
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15:34 | cait | hm also should say you absolutely want to use debian packages |
15:34 | Shane-S | would it be easier to stick with MySQL or is the project transistion to MariaDB (since that is really where most the open source devs went to)? |
15:35 | cait | the problem exist with both dbms |
15:35 | Shane-S | okay |
15:35 | cait | sql strict mode doesn't fully work well with koha yet |
15:35 | Joubu | cait: it's fixed in latest versions |
15:35 | cait | Joubu: are they available yet for the lts? |
15:35 | Joubu | since bug 20229 we do no longer need to change the config file |
15:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20229 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Remove problematic SQL modes |
15:36 | cait | aah |
15:36 | nice | |
15:36 | Joubu | ho, not backported |
15:36 | cait | but that's not in 17.11 |
15:36 | Joubu | sorry, I thought it was |
15:36 | cait | Shane-S: read both pages carefully and do that why say - it will save you trouble :) |
15:37 | Shane-S | and basically all I need is the stuff in the backup folder to migrate? |
15:38 | cait | you need your database dump |
15:38 | if that's in the backup folder :) | |
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15:40 | Shane-S | I haven't been on the server in ages...I honestly forget...I attempted this process last summer..but go pulled into a phone system install that never ended |
15:41 | oh busy weekend and week ahead | |
15:41 | time to go build the base VM ty cait | |
15:44 | tuxayo | cait: |
15:44 | 11. «please use normal quotes» where do I use not-normal quotes? | |
15:44 | 12. «it's ok to give examples on the test plan, you don't have to be extensive» | |
15:44 | ok I'll say that it's just a list of examples and that they don't have to be tried on each field | |
15:45 | Joubu: | |
15:45 | 13. Oh, we never fix alignment not directly related to our code even in a separate patch? Ok it's simpler but I'll will have to hold myself back ^^" | |
15:45 | 14. «if it is relative to a currency you need to add an attribute to the currency, not a syspref» | |
15:45 | I don't get it, there is nothing directly related to a currency. It just clean the field from everything not in the folowing example "-1,234.56" | |
15:48 | Joubu | tuxayo: alignment fixes can only be done if you are sure you will not create conflict with several patches waiting in bugzilla |
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15:49 | Shane-S | apparently I did a migration...but never fully tested it...lol I have my data in 16.11.03 in a VM that was off. |
15:49 | Is there a way to enable apt-get to auto-update Koha packages or is that not recommended? | |
15:50 | cait | Shane-S: some do oher don't |
15:50 | we don't do automatic updates | |
15:50 | tuxayo: imeant these » | |
15:50 | Joubu | tuxayo: you could imagine a system used by people using different currencies |
15:50 | cait | i recently looked at a patch that i could hardly read in git because of lots of special characters, just passing this on to you now :) |
15:51 | Joubu | do you want the input method be system-wise or depending on the currency you are using to "input numbers"? |
15:51 | cait | Joubu: i don't this can work currency wise |
15:52 | global should be ok, we only have one active currency | |
15:52 | i had suggested to bind it to the display format we have, but people insisted on allowing as many variations as possible, so that's why we eneded up with a pref | |
15:52 | so you could allow to use decimal . and decimal , both at the same time | |
15:54 | Joubu | that the point, if you are entering $12.345 or $12,345 you will never know what you are entering |
15:54 | imagine you copy/paste prices from an invoice | |
15:55 | but ok, it was just for discussion. We could start with a syspref | |
15:55 | my guess it that the problem is more complex than just a syspref | |
15:56 | Shane-S | ? will Koha packages install MySQL or MariaDB if I don't have it pre-installed? |
15:58 | Joubu | gaetan_B: opinion on bug 19974? |
15:58 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19974 normal, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, In Discussion , Marking an item as 'lost' will not actually modify the current item (cataloguing/additem.pl) |
16:01 | gaetan_B | Joubu: currently reading |
16:01 | * gaetan_B | would happily get rid of the "items" tab |
16:03 | gaetan_B | i definitely agree this looks like a long standing bug that has to be fixed |
16:03 | i wasn't even aware of this actually... | |
16:03 | tuxayo | cait: Oh even in IRC these quotes are causing issues? T_T |
16:04 | Joubu: «you could imagine a system used by people using different currencies» | |
16:04 | How is that impacted by bug 12310? | |
16:04 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12310 critical, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , Accept different monetary formats as input |
16:06 | Joubu | I tried to explain: 12,345 vs 12.345. Forget about that and start with a pref if you think it's enough |
16:07 | cait | sorry off for a bit |
16:10 | gaetan_B | Joubu: i made a suggestion |
16:12 | ok i'm leaving for the weekend, happy easter ! 🔔🐰 | |
16:16 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20503: Prevent Borrower_PrevCheckout.t to fail randomly <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f762e5260d8c81a1a> |
16:27 | reiveune | bye |
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16:33 | * LeeJ | waves |
16:33 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
16:43 | * cait | waves |
16:49 | tuxayo | Joubu: Oh I get it now. Unfortunately we can't use the currency symbol to deduce the format and replace the new syspref. |
16:49 | Cause: on the same instance, for inputting the same currency. Depending on the keyboard/locale settings and habits (the numpad inputs a dot even in france) and the nationality of the librarians. Some will use dots and other comas. | |
16:51 | Joubu: Cait: thanks for all your feedback :) Hopefully the next time the patch will be ready for real! | |
16:55 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #416: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/416/ |
16:55 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 20503: Prevent Borrower_PrevCheckout.t to fail randomly | |
16:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20503 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Borrower_PrevCheckout.t is failing randomly |
16:55 | tuxayo | cait: about https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=19818#c9 |
16:55 | "Please make your changes in a follow-up." (huh, ugly quotes :P ) | |
16:55 | huginn | Bug 19818: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, zoebennett1308, ASSIGNED , Add id into tag html from moremember.tt |
16:55 | tuxayo | Do you mean a follow up patch or follow up bugzilla? |
17:08 | Joubu | jenkins: you drive me crazy! |
17:08 | jenkins | Joubu you may not issue bot commands in this chat! |
17:11 | tuxayo | lol |
17:11 | bye #koha! | |
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17:21 | georgew | I'm hanging out with LeeJ in the jitsi room for his Koha documentation webinar and right now we're the only two there |
17:21 | anyone else want the link? | |
17:23 | cait | is there video? :) |
17:23 | georgew | yes |
17:24 | the link is https://meet.jit.si/KohaDocsTeam | |
17:31 | cait | thx georgew |
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20:08 | bag | http://kohacon2018.bywatersolutions.com/ |
20:25 | davidnind | bag: nice! really nice! |
20:26 | bag | :D |
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