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| 02:13 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #28: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/28/ |
| 02:13 | * oleonard: Bug 20135: Prevent staff client language choose pop-up from appearing | |
| 02:13 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19671: Map itemtypes to hash for correct display in issues_stats.pl | |
| 02:13 | * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: [OPAC] Allow holds on waiting/transit items | |
| 02:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20135 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Staff client language choose pop-up can appear off-screen |
| 02:13 | jenkins | * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Consistency in IsAvailableForItemLevelRequest |
| 02:13 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Use ReservableItems in all scripts | |
| 02:13 | * alex.arnaud: Bug 4319: (QA follow-up) Rename hasItemswaitingOrInTransit to | |
| 02:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19671 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation wizard / issues_stats.pl does not populate itemtype descriptions correctly |
| 02:13 | jenkins | * kyle: Bug 19530: Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item |
| 02:13 | * mtompset: Bug 19530: Added commentary for last test when prove -v | |
| 02:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4319 major, P2, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , waiting and in transit items cannot be reserved |
| 02:13 | jenkins | * kyle: Bug 19530: Don't update the date arrived for closed transfers |
| 02:13 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 20227: Check for categorycode in default_borrower_circ_rules | |
| 02:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19530 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Prevent multiple transfers from existing for one item |
| 02:13 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20227 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , admin/smart-rules.pl should pass categorycode instead of branchcode | |
| 02:13 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18975: Retrieve up-to-date CGISESSID when just logged in |
| 02:13 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19978: Fix ITEMTYPECAT behaviour | |
| 02:13 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18975 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Wrong CSRF token when emailing cart contents |
| 02:13 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19978 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Fix ITEMTYPECAT feature for grouping item types for search | |
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| 03:03 | wizzyrea | never mind we figured it out |
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| 03:04 | wizzyrea | the moral of the story is: don't leave any big viles in your kohadevbox directory, cuz they get rsynced to the devbox when it's provisioned, potentially not leaving space for your real git clone. |
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| 06:05 | fridolin | can somebody test this trivial Bug 20131 |
| 06:05 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20131 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Inventory optional filters always shows "For loan" for value 0 |
| 06:05 | fridolin | in exchange of my eternel consideration and admiration ;) |
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| 06:52 | drojf | hi #koha |
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| 07:32 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:35 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:35 | magnuse | o/ |
| 07:36 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
| 07:42 | josef_moravec | hi marcelr magnuse LibraryClaire reiveune |
| 07:42 | reiveune | \o_ |
| 07:42 | LibraryClaire | hi josef_moravec |
| 07:43 | magnuse | hiya josef_moravec LibraryClaire reiveune |
| 07:43 | LibraryClaire | hi magnuse |
| 07:43 | wahanui | kamelåså |
| 07:43 | reiveune | salut magnuse |
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| 07:51 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:51 | wahanui | privet, alex_a |
| 07:52 | eythian | https://i.redd.it/ykfh5p0syph01.jpg <-- I took this photo on the way into work this morning |
| 07:59 | marcelr | eythian: something went wrong there |
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| 08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:29 | tuxayo | ho #koha o/ |
| 08:29 | *hi | |
| 08:29 | eythian | marcelr: perhaps they're experimenting with more under-canal parking. Only, this experiment failed. |
| 08:29 | marcelr | wonder if they got a parking fine? |
| 08:30 | hi tuxayo | |
| 08:30 | and gaetan_B | |
| 08:30 | wahanui | well, gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
| 08:32 | tuxayo | hi marcelr |
| 08:47 | magnuse | marcelr: what is the thing the car drove off? a house built into the canal? or some weird houseboat? |
| 08:47 | marcelr | kind of woonboot (houseboat?) |
| 08:47 | eythian | it's a woonboot yeah |
| 08:47 | though, I don't think the car drove off it | |
| 08:48 | marcelr | no |
| 08:48 | eythian | I think it came from the side I was on |
| 08:48 | http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/17[…]in-keizersgracht- at5 is speculating | |
| 08:48 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 08:48 | marcelr | handrem.. |
| 08:53 | magnuse | handbrake? |
| 08:53 | wahanui | handbrake is a software application that can convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into a MPEG-4 video file in .mp4, .avi, .ogm, or .mkv containers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake |
| 08:54 | magnuse | ok wahanui |
| 08:54 | marcelr | yes |
| 09:11 | * cait | waves |
| 09:15 | magnuse | kia ora cait! |
| 09:15 | josef_moravec | hi cait |
| 09:16 | cait | :) |
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| 09:41 | tuxayo | Upgrade to 17.12.00.016 done (Bug 18336 - Convert DB tables to utf8mb4 💩) |
| 09:41 | ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ | |
| 09:41 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18336 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add support for Unicode supplementary characters |
| 09:42 | cait | i think we really should replace that icon |
| 09:42 | paxed | i wish we could change the default collate too during install. |
| 09:42 | cait | osmeone willing to do a patch? :) |
| 09:43 | paxed: what do you mean? | |
| 09:43 | paxed | cait: the default database collate rule, utf8_unicode_ci, works for most languages, but for eg. finnish, it sorts the alphabet wrong |
| 09:44 | usually seen when you go catalogue a new record and have frameworks with 'ä' or 'ö', or if you have patrons with surnames starting with those letters | |
| 09:46 | cait | interesting |
| 09:46 | wahanui | interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 09:46 | cait | maybe file a bug for that? it seems a good suggestion! |
| 09:47 | paxed | the collate can be changed afterwards, but still, it's annoying |
| 09:48 | cait | alex_a++ |
| 09:49 | josef_moravec | paxed, cait: now it is based on settings of mysql server in your system (my.cnf) which is utf8_unicode_ci on most servers I think |
| 09:49 | alex_a | cait: you can reproduce what i'm talking about in BZ 19582? |
| 09:50 | cait | not sure my elastic search is working right onw |
| 09:50 | paxed | josef_moravec: kohastructure.sql explicitly says COLLATE=utf8mb4_unicode_ci, so doesn't that override it? |
| 09:51 | magnuse | paxed: this is a problem in norway and sweden too |
| 09:51 | josef_moravec | yes it definitely override it |
| 09:51 | magnuse | ooh, look at the easy signoff on bug 11936 |
| 09:51 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11936 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Consistent log message for item insert |
| 09:51 | paxed | magnuse: yup |
| 09:51 | josef_moravec | and that is the reason it has to be always defined in kohastructure.sql, to be sure it is right |
| 09:51 | cait | alex_a: hm switching on elastic - search not working |
| 09:52 | i'd like to learn more about the elastic serach implementatin - maybein marseille? | |
| 09:52 | josef_moravec | but could be maybe fine to set the default charset and collation on database level... |
| 09:52 | alex_a | cait: now you are sure your elasticsearch doesn't work |
| 09:53 | cait | yeah, but i'd like it better if it did :) |
| 09:53 | josef_moravec | but the you are right, thet unicode_ci is not always best for same langauges (Czech too) |
| 09:53 | alex_a | cait: i will help you to set it up in Marseille if you want |
| 09:54 | magnuse | but a server might have instances that need different collations |
| 09:54 | could it be an option to do it via an sql file in the language specific folders below installer/data/mysql/? | |
| 09:56 | cait | alex_a: i just added a topic to the hackfest file :) |
| 09:56 | alex_a | cait++ |
| 09:56 | cait | i think others will be interested too and i'd like to be mor ehelpful in testing patches |
| 09:57 | @later tell oleonard stealing my easy bugs? ;) | |
| 09:57 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:15 | * tuxayo | loves git bisect |
| 10:17 | * cait | too |
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| 10:36 | fridolin | dpkg? |
| 10:36 | wahanui | it has been said that dpkg is a wonderful thing once you coax it out from within its grumpy shell |
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| 10:54 | tuxayo | Now even if one's breaks Koha's CSS, the staff interface still has a decent look https://screenshots.firefox.co[…]YUkqP/koha-master |
| 11:10 | cait | true :) |
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| 11:54 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #29: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.11_D8/29/ |
| 11:54 | * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 17.11.03 | |
| 11:54 | * Nick Clemens: Increment version for 17.11.03 release | |
| 11:54 | * Nick Clemens: Update release notes for 17.11.03 release | |
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| 12:22 | cait | kidclamp++ |
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| 12:39 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:40 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 12:40 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
| 12:41 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 12:41 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
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| 12:54 | Joubu | kidclamp, khall: can you take a look at bug 19008 comment 25 please? |
| 12:54 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups |
| 12:55 | Joubu | or any English native speakers around |
| 13:01 | kidclamp | commented Joubu |
| 13:01 | Joubu | thanks kidclamp |
| 13:02 | eythian | kidclamp spells catalogue wrong, remember. |
| 13:02 | kidclamp | 'catalog-way' is always how I read that |
| 13:02 | tuxayo | What is a POD? (It's mentioned few times in bug 19008) |
| 13:02 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19008 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , More database cleanups |
| 13:03 | oleonard | kidclamp++ |
| 13:03 | LibraryClaire | lol |
| 13:05 | Joubu | tuxayo, fridolin: in the context of bug 20259, did you see bug 12904 comment 117? |
| 13:05 | fridolin | ah oki thaks |
| 13:05 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20259 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Shorter JS and CSS rewrite rule |
| 13:05 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12904 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Force browser to load new JavaScript and CSS files after upgrade | |
| 13:05 | fridolin | Joubu: ah nope i look |
| 13:06 | Joubu: "query parameters don't necessarily bypass the cache" ? i dont see the link | |
| 13:06 | Joubu | tuxayo: POD==doc |
| 13:06 | fridolin | with shorter regexp |
| 13:06 | eythian | Plain Old Documentation |
| 13:07 | Joubu | fridolin: then read the 3 comments above |
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| 13:08 | marcelr | tuxayo: and PVOD is very old :) |
| 13:10 | paxed | magnuse: see bug 20269 |
| 13:10 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20269 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow selecting default collate rule |
| 13:12 | Joubu | paxed: we usually resort things in perl or via the DataTables JS plugin |
| 13:13 | IIRC it does not work for éèçà either | |
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| 13:24 | tcohen | marcelr: merge_authorities.pl is a mandatory cron but not added automatically by the packages? |
| 13:25 | marcelr | tcohen: merge_authorities |
| 13:25 | debian/koha-common.cron.daily | |
| 13:26 | tcohen | right |
| 13:26 | shouldn't it be immediate? | |
| 13:26 | marcelr | what do you mean |
| 13:27 | tcohen | the merge, scheduled to be ran in a shorter term? |
| 13:27 | marcelr | you have pref controlling it |
| 13:27 | mergelimit | |
| 13:27 | or something | |
| 13:27 | wahanui | somebody said something was fishy |
| 13:28 | marcelr | it is either immediate or postponed |
| 13:28 | blou | Holà #koha |
| 13:28 | marcelr | the idea is merge 2000 recs at night |
| 13:28 | hi blou | |
| 13:28 | blou | Hi marcel! |
| 13:28 | Hi marcelr! | |
| 13:28 | marcelr | :) |
| 13:29 | blou | Sorry to barge in: anyone can direct me to the script that "rebuilds the marcxml from the database content" ? |
| 13:29 | khall | mornin all! |
| 13:29 | marcelr | blou: should be the other way |
| 13:29 | tuxayo | eythian: thanks :) |
| 13:29 | marcelr | hi khall |
| 13:30 | blou: marcxml should be leading | |
| 13:31 | blou | User messed up, deleted stuff. I recovered the items table, but the marcxml has been modified to reflect records without items. Now I have the items, DB is ok, but the marcxml can't be indexed |
| 13:31 | Yeah, the other way around, I could use batchRebuildItemsTables.pl | |
| 13:32 | marcelr | backup and partial recovery..? |
| 13:32 | blou | yeah.... I'm lazy :) |
| 13:33 | marcelr | but items are no longer in the xml |
| 13:33 | blou | I have older backups |
| 13:33 | got all i need, i think. Beside that the status fields might have been modififed since, which makes it ugly | |
| 13:34 | marcelr | kind of dangerous |
| 13:34 | but you are in a bad situation then | |
| 13:34 | blou | *sigh* |
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| 13:35 | marcelr | copy the marcxml from the old record and run touch biblios, that kind of approach ? |
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| 13:50 | blou | I'lll try that, marcelr |
| 13:50 | marcelr | be careful ;) |
| 13:58 | tuxayo | @seen kidclamp |
| 13:58 | huginn` | tuxayo: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 55 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <kidclamp> 'catalog-way' is always how I read that |
| 13:58 | kidclamp | hi tuxayo |
| 14:01 | tuxayo | kidclamp: hi :) Can you confirm in bug 13560 if my tests seem enough for you? My uncertainly about that might deter a QA member to take this bug. |
| 14:01 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13560 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , need an add option in marc modification templates |
| 14:04 | kidclamp | ideally you would test all the options just to ensure I didn't break anything unintentionally, but if any other option worked it would seem features are intact |
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| 14:32 | * cait | waves |
| 14:33 | oleonard | Hi cait |
| 14:33 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 14:34 | oleonard | cait: Those easy bugs were too tempting when it was the end of the day and my brain was fried |
| 14:34 | cait | it's alright :) |
| 14:35 | the typo one has been annoying me forever | |
| 14:35 | bbiab :) | |
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| 14:46 | tuxayo | kidclamp: thanks |
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| 15:07 | paxed | Joubu: well, there's the framework names, and i believe patron names, that are affected by this. |
| 15:08 | magnuse | and library names in the items table, according to one swedish library |
| 15:08 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 15:10 | Joubu | paxed: patrons yes, we cannot sort them after they have been retrieved from the DB |
| 15:13 | paxed | (we've got 3 frameworkcode names that start with 'Ä', and the cataloguers are annoyed) |
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| 15:19 | paxed | magnuse: ah, didn't know that. we don't have any libraries with names starting with The Wrong Kind of letter :P |
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| 16:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:06 | Joubu | it's a feature |
| 17:06 | ha no, it's a bug | |
| 17:06 | ha... no ... it's a feature | |
| 17:06 | maybe... | |
| 17:06 | wahanui | maybe is a momentaneous error |
| 17:06 | Joubu | :) |
| 17:07 | I get " | |
| 17:07 | Username/password already exists. | |
| 17:07 | " | |
| 17:07 | when I create a patron without userid | |
| 17:08 | the message is wrong, but what is supposed to be the behaviour? | |
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| 17:11 | Joubu | ha... it only happens when surname/firstname are not filled |
| 17:13 | tcohen | Joubu: what are you talking about? |
| 17:15 | Joubu | create a patron "organisation": you will not see the firstname field |
| 17:15 | fill surname, and leave blank "userid/login" | |
| 17:15 | you will get "Username/password already exists" | |
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| 17:39 | tuxayo | bye #koha o/ |
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| 17:59 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 17:59 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
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| 18:28 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 18:34 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen: t/db_dependent/Koha/Object.t is expecting Koha::Exceptions::Object::FKConstraint if Koha::Patron->store is called with a non-existing category, but t/db_dependent/Members.t expect a Koha::Exceptions::BadParameter if AddMember is called with a non-existing cat... Hum? :-/ |
| 18:34 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 20:44 | bag | cait++ |
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| 20:45 | cait | hm? |
| 20:45 | bag | because you’re awesome |
| 20:46 | LeeJ | I agree with bag |
| 20:46 | cait | now i feel super guilty for not doing any qa today - thx ;) |
| 20:46 | bag | @roulette |
| 20:46 | huginn` | bag: *click* |
| 20:47 | * cait | takes it away from bag |
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| 20:50 | kidclamp | @roulette |
| 20:50 | huginn` | kidclamp: *click* |
| 20:50 | kidclamp | @roulette |
| 20:50 | huginn` | *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! |
| 20:50 | * huginn` | reloads and spins the chambers. |
| 20:50 | kidclamp | @roulette |
| 20:50 | huginn` | kidclamp: *click* |
| 20:50 | kidclamp | @roulette |
| 20:50 | huginn` | kidclamp: *click* |
| 20:50 | kidclamp | @roulette |
| 20:50 | huginn` | kidclamp: *click* |
| 20:51 | kidclamp | blanks, yeesh, what's a guy go to do to get kicked |
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| 20:54 | * LeeJ | realizes the time and scrambles to get ready |
| 20:54 | Joubu | @dice 2d6 |
| 20:54 | huginn` | Joubu: 4 and 4 |
| 20:55 | Joubu | less dangerous than roulette.... |
| 20:55 | LeeJ | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | LeeJ: 1 |
| 20:55 | LeeJ | >_> |
| 20:55 | Joubu | lol |
| 20:55 | LeeJ | if that was a save roll I'd be dead |
| 20:55 | cait | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | cait: 8 |
| 20:55 | cait | paralyzed |
| 20:55 | Joubu | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | Joubu: 7 |
| 20:55 | LeeJ | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | LeeJ: 7 |
| 20:55 | LeeJ | COME ON |
| 20:55 | Joubu | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | Joubu: 14 |
| 20:55 | cait | @dice 1d20 |
| 20:55 | huginn` | cait: 6 |
| 20:55 | cait | ... |
| 20:56 | i have flashbacks | |
| 20:56 | * LeeJ | thinks we should start a tradition of rolling initiative at the start of IRC meetings |
| 20:56 | Joubu | what would happen to the looser? |
| 20:56 | cait | that woudl make chairing hard for me :) |
| 20:56 | LeeJ | haha |
| 20:57 | Joubu | has to signoff 10 patches |
| 20:57 | cait | 20! |
| 20:57 | LeeJ | oh dear..what have I done lol |
| 20:57 | though that IS one way to get people active ;) | |
| 20:58 | I'll wait 5 minutes to give people time to filter in :) | |
| 21:01 | * LeeJ | shuffles notecards |
| 21:02 | LeeJ | yes |
| 21:03 | * cait | is here |
| 21:04 | LeeJ | yayy |
| 21:04 | I'll give 1 more minute for the late-comers..because I've been one of them :P | |
| 21:05 | jenkins | Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #98: SUCCESS in 2 hr 13 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/98/ |
| 21:05 | Jonathan Druart: Bug 19847: Track links within the records and 404 for others | |
| 21:05 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19847 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , tracklinks.pl accepts any url from a parameter for proxying |
| 21:07 | LeeJ | kellym: hi :) I noticed in gitlab that you had submitted a merge request..rangi had commented that it might need to be rebased. Didn't know if you got the message about his comment :) |
| 21:08 | okay..we've waited long enough I think | |
| 21:08 | Joubu | yep |
| 21:08 | LeeJ | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018 |
| 21:08 | huginn` | Meeting started Thu Feb 22 21:08:35 2018 UTC. The chair is LeeJ. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:08 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:08 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_22_february_2018' |
| 21:08 | kellym | leej I didn’t get the message ! That merge request was from awhile ago! |
| 21:08 | thanks! leej | |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | kellym my pleasure! :) |
| 21:09 | #topic Introductions | |
| 21:09 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:09 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:09 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
| 21:09 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro (Canada) |
| 21:09 | georgew | #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 21:09 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 21:09 | kellym | #info kelly mcelligott bywater solutions |
| 21:09 | rangi | #info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, NZ |
| 21:09 | m23_ | # Michal Denar, KohaCZ |
| 21:10 | LeeJ | hi all and welcome to the meeting...again, sorry about the last one. That was on me :) |
| 21:10 | everyone present and accounted for? | |
| 21:10 | cool | |
| 21:10 | #topic What's been done so far | |
| 21:10 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | Joubu: I'm going to assume you may have news about the help files? |
| 21:11 | Joubu | nope, I do not |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | okay |
| 21:11 | Joubu | bug 19817 is in discussion |
| 21:11 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | does anyone have any updates, news, etc.? |
| 21:12 | Joubu | I wanted to provide patches to have something ready for 18.05, but without feedbacks I cannot |
| 21:12 | LeeJ | #info Bug 19817 is still in discussion. Joubu wants to provide patches for 18.05 but needs feedback from the community to do so |
| 21:13 | #topic Workflows | |
| 21:13 | Topic for #koha is now Workflows (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:14 | LeeJ | okay..so it appears as though some/most who have a desire to help write documentation don't understand the gitlab workflow |
| 21:14 | so I'm prepared to offer a Zoom session/webinar to anyone interested in order to help | |
| 21:14 | georgew | I'd be interested |
| 21:14 | cait | LeeJ++ |
| 21:14 | kellym | leej i would say at one meeting awhile back it was talked about creating a vidoe about the process |
| 21:14 | yes I would be interested leej especially adding images to the manual | |
| 21:15 | cait | there is a video linked on the wiki page: edit manual? |
| 21:15 | editing manual? | |
| 21:15 | editing the manual? | |
| 21:15 | wahanui | somebody said editing the manual was https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
| 21:15 | LeeJ | kellym: yes I remember that meeting note. I had actually thought about it and realized it might be more effective having a recorded webinar to work from |
| 21:16 | kellym | definitely! yes there is a video on adding content but not adding images. I had problems with the steps on the wiki…so I would love a webinar leej |
| 21:16 | cait | ah yep :) |
| 21:16 | LeeJ | I figured I'd take a page out of BWS' playbook :) |
| 21:16 | kellym | great idea! leej |
| 21:16 | Joubu | kellym: what kind of images do you want to add? |
| 21:16 | kellym | leej++ |
| 21:17 | screenshots | |
| 21:17 | wahanui | screenshots are best |
| 21:17 | Joubu | of Koha? |
| 21:17 | Seen my emails to the list about manual screenshots? | |
| 21:17 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'my', Joubu |
| 21:17 | kellym | yes screenshots of koha. it was also discussed to have images/screenshots of koha without customizations. |
| 21:17 | LeeJ | #info LeeJ will send out an email the week of February 26th to determine the best meeting time for a webinar |
| 21:17 | kellym | joubu I don’t remember seeing an email- can you send it to me? kellybywatersolutions.com |
| 21:18 | Joubu | https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]nuary/049807.html |
| 21:18 | kellym | thanks joubu |
| 21:18 | LeeJ | thanks for bringing that up kellym! Joubu, do we have a written policy in place about using non-customized Koha for images/screenshots? I don't recall seeing one |
| 21:19 | m23_ | what about screenshots in other languages in manual? |
| 21:19 | Joubu | the idea was to provide a way to generate screenshot automatically |
| 21:19 | LeeJ | ahh |
| 21:19 | Joubu | which would lead to autogenerated screenshots, updated from one version of Koha to another, and for any languages |
| 21:19 | m23_: same link | |
| 21:20 | nobody reads my emails :-/ | |
| 21:20 | cait | LeeJ: we agreed on it at the last meeting |
| 21:20 | but i don't think we put it on the wiki | |
| 21:20 | m23_ | some languages are longer, other shorter .. how solve this in automatic way? |
| 21:20 | LeeJ | #info https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]nuary/049807.html contains information about the idea of automatically generating screenshots |
| 21:20 | cait: right..now it's coming back to me :) | |
| 21:21 | Joubu | we screenshot boxes (with class or id), so the sizes can vary |
| 21:21 | boxes == HTML elements | |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | #info LeeJ will add the policy to the wiki of using non-customized Koha screenshots for documentation to keep documentation images uniform |
| 21:21 | cait | LeeJ: do you want me to add a note on the wiki? |
| 21:21 | ah :) | |
| 21:21 | even better | |
| 21:21 | wahanui | even better is what oleopard said just after that |
| 21:22 | m23_ | It can work, I think |
| 21:22 | LeeJ | alright..I think that covers what I had in mind. I plan on also covering information on the kanban during the zoom webinar |
| 21:22 | kellym | leej do you think there should be something about standard size of images also? |
| 21:22 | m23_ | how we can help with it? |
| 21:22 | Joubu | m23_: it works |
| 21:22 | wahanui | For now... |
| 21:23 | Joubu | lol |
| 21:23 | LeeJ | kellym: that would make sense to me..however are there any cases (wide pages, etc.) where uniform image sizes would make the screenshot unreadable? |
| 21:23 | kellym | yes true- leej |
| 21:24 | LeeJ | Joubu and cait..what are your thoughts on requiring a uniform screenshot size? |
| 21:24 | Joubu | maybe you should just read my emails |
| 21:25 | cait | i am not sure - maybe only a max size? |
| 21:25 | Joubu | there are examples for ar, en, es, it, pt_BR and zh_TW |
| 21:25 | for the first screenshots I generated automatically | |
| 21:25 | * LeeJ | feels sheepish |
| 21:25 | Joubu | there are links to the different manuals at the end of the email |
| 21:26 | http://download.koha-community[…]ministration.html | |
| 21:26 | for instance | |
| 21:26 | LeeJ | I see |
| 21:27 | caroline | Joubu, you should send emails to the general mailing list. I notice this one is the bugs mailing list? |
| 21:27 | Joubu | it's the general mailing list |
| 21:28 | LeeJ | hmm |
| 21:29 | well I am willing to help with what I can per that mailing list email Joubu | |
| 21:29 | I just realized I don't remember seeing it because I had my bugs list filtered to a folder | |
| 21:29 | but let me know what you need me to do and I'll be more than happy to | |
| 21:30 | rangi | has anyone mentioned the manuals are automatically updated now, as soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages |
| 21:31 | LeeJ | rangi: not that I can recollect..? But that's fantastic |
| 21:31 | rangi | for 18.05 and 17.11 |
| 21:31 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]18.05/zh_TW/html/ | |
| 21:31 | https://koha-community.org/manual/18.05/en/html/ | |
| 21:31 | etc | |
| 21:31 | LeeJ | #info the manuals are automatically updated now since 18.05 and 17.11. As soon as changes are merged, it rebuilds all the languages |
| 21:32 | that's very convenient | |
| 21:32 | anyone have anything else? :) | |
| 21:32 | rangi | yeah it allows people to see if the changes they made look good |
| 21:32 | LeeJ | okay..moving on then |
| 21:32 | #topic Next steps | |
| 21:32 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:33 | LeeJ | To summarize (please point out if I've missed something)... |
| 21:33 | uhh | |
| 21:34 | kellym | what happened? |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | no clue.. |
| 21:34 | rangi | netsplit |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | ooh |
| 21:34 | georgew | irc apocalypse |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | I'll wait until people come back |
| 21:35 | ..if they do :O | |
| 21:35 | don't you mean a splitpocalypse georgew? :) | |
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| 21:36 | Joubu | back? |
| 21:36 | wahanui | and forth. |
| 21:36 | Joubu | pfiou |
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| 21:36 | LeeJ | some never left it seems |
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| 21:36 | LeeJ | that was weird..I've never been here for that. |
| 21:36 | Joubu | rangi: What I said: but pootle is not updated |
| 21:37 | rangi | nope, that needs to be automated too |
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| 21:37 | * cait | waves |
| 21:37 | cait | sorry got disconnected |
| 21:38 | georgew | _everybody_ got disconnected |
| 21:39 | LeeJ | so to summarize... Joubu needs help from the community to work on getting the documentation/help files/screenshots automated, etc. I'll be sending out an email next week to coordinate a webinar on kohadocs as well as I'll add our dediced policies about non-customized Koha to be used for all screenshots |
| 21:39 | did I miss anything? | |
| 21:39 | Joubu | LeeJ: for the automated screenshots: I need to know if what I suggest is a possible solution |
| 21:40 | i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills | |
| 21:41 | LeeJ | #info read over the information at this link https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]nuary/049807.html and let Joubu know if what he suggests is a possible solution (i.e. does the syntax make sense for people without technical skills). Notify Joubu ASAP |
| 21:41 | cait | it got lost in the netsplit |
| 21:41 | but what about the screenshots we can't generate? | |
| 21:42 | pages that are not koha, enhanced content (needs keys etc) | |
| 21:42 | Joubu | let start with the ones we can generate :) |
| 21:42 | cait | ok |
| 21:42 | caroline | What about new features? How do we say to add a screenshot for this or that if it isn't already in the manual? |
| 21:43 | LeeJ | caroline: that's definitely a topic I want to cover in the zoom webinar I'll be scheduling! |
| 21:43 | caroline | yes, but will they be automated? Is that something you will cover in the webinar? |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | #info also it's critical to provide feedback on Bug 19817 for Joubu |
| 21:44 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19817 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge local and online documentations |
| 21:44 | LeeJ | I think that's something I might have to sort out with Joubu |
| 21:45 | caroline: I don't have an exact answer at the moment, but as soon as I do have an answer I'll relay it to everyone | |
| 21:45 | okay...I think everything's been covered | |
| 21:46 | caroline | ok, I was just mentionning it so we think about it, not to get an answer today |
| 21:46 | LeeJ | unless anyone has last minute additions? |
| 21:46 | caroline: I know :) and the input/reminder is appreciated! | |
| 21:46 | caroline | :) |
| 21:47 | LeeJ | okay..since no one has anything further |
| 21:47 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 21:47 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 22 February 2018) | |
| 21:49 | LeeJ | alright..I think because the May release gaining on us quickly perhaps the 2nd week of March..any conflicting holidays? |
| 21:49 | Joubu | may be good/bad during the hackfest? |
| 21:49 | LeeJ | do you know the dates of hackfest? |
| 21:50 | I wanna go to it next year :( | |
| 21:50 | Joubu | 12 to 16 |
| 21:50 | wahanui | 184884258895036416 |
| 21:50 | LeeJ | hmm |
| 21:51 | then we can just schedule it for the week after hackfest | |
| 21:51 | Joubu | can be good during the hackfest :) |
| 21:51 | LeeJ | ooh good point |
| 21:51 | Joubu | French tz is utc+2 |
| 21:52 | LeeJ | haha you read my mind. I was JUST going to ask |
| 21:52 | Joubu | CET is UTC+1 actually |
| 21:52 | cait | i think the timing would be bad for the hackfest |
| 21:53 | Joubu | people could learn about documentation related stuffs? |
| 21:53 | cait | we could try, but depends on other presentations being during the same time or lunch :) |
| 21:54 | LeeJ | was there an itinerary sent out via email? |
| 21:54 | cait | it's barcamp style |
| 21:54 | bit unpredictable until it happens | |
| 21:55 | LeeJ | oooh |
| 21:55 | hmm..maybe we should just shoot for March 22nd? | |
| 21:55 | gives people time to get home/recover from hackfest | |
| 21:56 | March 22nd @ 14 UTC sound good? | |
| 21:56 | cait | works for me |
| 21:57 | kellym | it doesn’t work for me - but could you record leej? |
| 21:57 | LeeJ | kellym: the 22nd would be for the next documentation IRC meeting |
| 21:57 | the webinar will be separate :) | |
| 21:57 | kellym | oh okay - that is fine |
| 21:57 | LeeJ | sounds good! |
| 21:58 | #info Next meeting: 22 March 2018, 14 UTC | |
| 21:58 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:58 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 21:58 | huginn` | Meeting ended Thu Feb 22 21:58:38 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:58 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-22-21.08.html | |
| 21:58 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-02-22-21.08.txt | |
| 21:58 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]22-21.08.log.html | |
| 21:58 | LeeJ | thanks for joining today everyone :) |
| 22:00 | kellym | thanks leej |
| 22:01 | LeeJ | no, thank YOU kellym :) |
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| 22:27 | cait | Joubu: still aroundẞ |
| 22:27 | ? | |
| 22:30 | Joubu | cait: more or less |
| 22:30 | cait | would you have a moment to look at something with me? |
| 22:30 | Joubu | qhoot |
| 22:30 | shoot | |
| 22:30 | cait | bug 20067 |
| 22:30 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20067 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Authorised values for ORDER_CANCELLATION_REASON are displayed on notice (catalogue/detail.pl) |
| 22:30 | cait | i pasted the code where the problem is in the last comment |
| 22:31 | hm ignore the data dumper line | |
| 22:31 | that's frm me trying to figure things out | |
| 22:31 | it returns 1 | |
| 22:33 | the problem is i think that authorised_value is "" | |
| 22:33 | and we are only checking for null possibly? | |
| 22:35 | still there? | |
| 22:35 | wahanui | there is one... but i don't know it |
| 23:18 | jenkins | Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #99: SUCCESS in 2 hr 12 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/99/ |
| 23:18 | * josef.moravec: Bug 19738: Fix XSS on vendor name in serials module | |
| 23:18 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19560: Correctly escape branchcode in admin/branches.pl | |
| 23:18 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Do not escape html characters when saving passwords | |
| 23:18 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19738 minor, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , XSS in serials module |
| 23:18 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19911: Escape password value during self-registration confirmation |
| 23:18 | * chrisc: Increment version for the 16.11.16 release | |
| 23:18 | * unknown: Translation updates for Koha 16.11.16 | |
| 23:18 | * chrisc: Release notes for 16.11.16 | |
| 23:18 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19560 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Unable to delete library when branchcode contains special characters |
| 23:18 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19911 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Passwords displayed to user during self-registration are not HTML-encoded | |
| 23:27 | cait | $mss = Koha::MarcSubfieldStructures->search({ frameworkcode => $fw, kohafield => 'items.materials', authorised_value => { not => undef } }); ... if someone has an idea |
| 23:28 | i am trying to add another condition authorised_value !="" |
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