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| 07:47 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 09:41 | cait | good morning #koha! |
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| 10:11 | magnuse | o/ |
| 10:15 | cait | tcohen: why are you awake? |
| 10:19 | tcohen | Manuel |
| 10:19 | Still has fever | |
| 10:20 | cait | oh no :( |
| 10:20 | hope he feels better soon | |
| 10:20 | the patron api bug is in SO = ready for QA - was wondering if we should wait for you to finish your patch and QA them together | |
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| 10:35 | magnuse | fever-- |
| 10:51 | tcohen | cait, of we can QA it, better. I just implemented some changes we agreed with Joubu. I will implement the RFC today |
| 11:02 | cait | ? |
| 12:45 | tcohen | cait: no need to test them together, that's what I meant |
| 12:45 | cait | ah |
| 12:45 | tcohen | the bug itself needs some specific tests |
| 12:47 | we need to get rid of biblio-level itypes | |
| 12:51 | cait | tcohen: i am not following |
| 12:51 | tcohen | bug 16330 can be tested on its own |
| 12:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 new feature, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, Signed Off , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons |
| 12:51 | tcohen | bug 19784 I'm working on it, and testing it wil mean checking it matches the RFC |
| 12:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Adapt /v1/patrons to new naming guidelines |
| 12:52 | tcohen | bug 19884 makes me think we should get rid of biblio-level itypes |
| 12:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19884 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, NEW , Improve performance of GetItem |
| 12:52 | cait | ah! |
| 12:53 | yeah | |
| 12:53 | tcohen | there are other possible approaches to marking biblio records for other uses |
| 12:53 | cait | i feel like we have deprecated it maybe... or should have |
| 12:53 | tcohen | item types are for... items? |
| 12:53 | cait | hmyeah but theere is the use case of records with no items |
| 12:53 | tcohen | and GetItem should probably be dealt with in Koha::Item(s) |
| 12:53 | cait | electronic resources, serials etc |
| 12:54 | tcohen | what would we need itemtypes for, on a record without items? |
| 12:54 | cait | search |
| 12:54 | people like to be able to search for serials easily like for their other itemtypes | |
| 12:54 | tcohen | lets have biblio_types |
| 12:54 | cait | i'd love to move it out of the marc |
| 12:54 | but... meh search | |
| 12:55 | tcohen | kidclamp will fix it on ElasticSearch |
| 12:55 | cait | we don't have 942 set for all but one use case because it gets overwritten all the time |
| 12:55 | not sure he will, our data is still teh same :) | |
| 12:55 | tcohen | it is just an extra index |
| 12:55 | cait | my point was that you want it mixed in |
| 12:55 | tcohen | we just need a biblio_type column in the biblio table |
| 12:55 | cait | because circulation conditions |
| 12:55 | search | |
| 12:55 | facets | |
| 12:55 | ... | |
| 12:56 | at the moment we have it on both levels, needs more thought than just killing or renaming | |
| 12:56 | tcohen | it is just more work, not a technical barrier |
| 12:56 | cait | yeah but we need to gain something by it |
| 12:56 | atthe moment I don't see the gain | |
| 12:56 | by renaming it, if you want the bheaviour to be the same :) | |
| 12:57 | tcohen | I'm not saying we should rename it |
| 12:57 | I'm saying we don't need to query the biblio-level itype when fetching each item | |
| 12:57 | there's something wrong in there | |
| 12:58 | cait | we need the biblio level stuff |
| 12:58 | in some cases | |
| 12:59 | like when determining if you have reached max of holds | |
| 12:59 | tcohen | so, have the same 'search' behaviour without making thing smore complicated than we need |
| 13:00 | cait | *sighs* |
| 13:00 | we are talking around each other:) | |
| 13:00 | tcohen | we are on the same page, just different perspective |
| 13:00 | cait | i am not sure wher GetItem is used - it probably shoudl be separate routines for soem cases where we need both |
| 13:00 | in some cases you need to look at both levels, so need to deal with that | |
| 13:01 | and as long as item_level-itypes = biblio is a valid setting ther eis no itemtype to look up on item level | |
| 13:01 | ever | |
| 13:01 | tcohen | the problem is not DBIC vs. plain DBI |
| 13:01 | it is the way we require some information | |
| 13:02 | FTR: using DBIC is using an SQL building lib (SQL::Abstract) that transforms hashrefs into SQL, and then passes it to DBI. The only fat/slow part of DBIC is loading the schemas at startup time | |
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| 13:06 | cait | i feel like we are having at least 2 conversations at once |
| 13:06 | sorry, maybe i am just ot understanding today | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | I'm having several conversations at a time, that's correct :-P |
| 13:06 | cait | but it's only the 2 of us... |
| 13:07 | are you alright? | |
| 13:07 | tcohen | I'm not sure |
| 13:07 | haha | |
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| 13:31 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 13:48 | tcohen | hi kidclamp |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | hi tcohen |
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| 15:16 | JesseDhammu | HI guys, can I have the tutorial video link for serials entry in KOHA ? |
| 15:53 | cait | bywatersolutions might have something |
| 15:53 | have you checked their website? | |
| 16:23 | tcohen | bywatersolutions? who's that? |
| 16:34 | Joubu | KOHA? What's that? |
| 16:44 | kidclamp | http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]erial-scriptions/ |
| 16:44 | We are BWS, we are legion | |
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| 18:16 | tcohen | later #koha |
| 18:16 | kidclamp hehe | |
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| 22:15 | cait | @later tell Joubu dev meeting and general meeting are both planned for 10 january 14 UTC |
| 22:15 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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