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| 06:10 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
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| 07:52 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:58 | josef_moravec | @seen jajm |
| 07:58 | huginn | josef_moravec: jajm was last seen in #koha 5 days, 15 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <jajm> Joubu, ok |
| 07:59 | josef_moravec | @later ask jajm: Are you going to continue work on bug 15516 ? |
| 07:59 | huginn | josef_moravec: I suck |
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| 08:03 | josef_moravec | @later tell jajm Are you going to continue work on bug 15516? |
| 08:03 | huginn | josef_moravec: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:12 | josef_moravec | hi gaetan_B |
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| 08:24 | tuxayo | josef_moravec: jajm will be back next year |
| 08:24 | ^^ | |
| 08:25 | josef_moravec | thanks tuxayo |
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| 08:40 | cait | good morning #koha :) |
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| 09:04 | josef_moravec | hi cait |
| 09:05 | cait | hi josef_moravec :) |
| 09:05 | could you do a quick qa on some first timer patches I signed off this morning and last night? | |
| 09:05 | mostly string changes | |
| 09:05 | josef_moravec | of course I can ;) |
| 09:09 | cait | do you need the numbers? they probably have the newest time changed int he queue or are among them, 6 bugs |
| 09:14 | josef_moravec | are they 18819, 19713, 19714, 19510, 18313 and 13676? |
| 09:16 | cait | bug 18819 |
| 09:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Correct "whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe." in web installer files |
| 09:16 | cait | looks about right :) |
| 09:17 | josef_moravec | cait: working on it ;) |
| 09:17 | cait | thx a lot .) |
| 09:18 | I still need to post some thoughts about the results of the little survey | |
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| 09:52 | cait | josef_moravec++ |
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| 12:49 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:49 | josef_moravec | hi oleonard |
| 12:49 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:51 | andreashm | hi |
| 12:51 | josef_moravec: any luck with testing bug 10662? | |
| 12:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 12:52 | josef_moravec | andreashm: Not much... I was able to set things, define a source, the harvester is downloading records, but not importing into Koha, I'am investigating why... |
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| 13:11 | andreashm | josef_moravec++ |
| 13:11 | josef_moravec: are you harvesting marc or rdf? or both? | |
| 13:11 | josef_moravec | I started to harvest marcxml |
| 13:12 | would like to try rdf too when I found some source ;) | |
| 13:12 | andreashm | ok, I've managed that before. |
| 13:12 | (marcxml) | |
| 13:12 | josef_moravec | I too when I was testing it first time some months ago... |
| 13:12 | andreashm | you can harvest rdfxml from LIBRIS (Swedish union catalogue) |
| 13:13 | cait | maybe it needs to be adapted to sme changes? |
| 13:13 | andreashm | say https://libris-qa.kb.se/api/oa[…]dataPrefix=rdfxml |
| 13:14 | cait: yeah possibly. | |
| 13:14 | josef_moravec | cait: probably yes |
| 13:14 | * andreashm | needs to find time to set up a test environment for 10662 |
| 13:14 | josef_moravec | andreashm: I use kohadevbox for it now |
| 13:14 | andreashm | does that work? |
| 13:14 | cait | bug 10662 |
| 13:14 | wahanui | it has been said that bug 10662 is a catch all at the moment |
| 13:14 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 13:14 | andreashm | I was under the impression that it couldn't be tested using devbox |
| 13:15 | cait | move of marcxml column? |
| 13:15 | josef_moravec | andreashm: it could, it's just David is not using devbox, so he does not test it on devbox |
| 13:15 | you just need to copy the config to /etc/koha | |
| 13:16 | andreashm | ah ok cool |
| 13:16 | then I'll try it out sooner | |
| 13:16 | josef_moravec | andreashm: thanks for the link to libris oai, looks perfect for testing ;) |
| 13:16 | andreashm | josef_moravec: np |
| 13:17 | we used that fo our rdf project | |
| 13:17 | for | |
| 13:18 | ok, I gotta go. bye #koha | |
| 13:18 | josef_moravec | by andreashm |
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| 13:42 | fridolin | koha-perldeps unstable is still 17.06.01 |
| 13:43 | mmm | |
| 13:43 | is it normal ? | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | drojf[m]: ^ |
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| 13:44 | Joubu | better to email him directly |
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| 13:55 | fridolin | Joubu: thanks |
| 14:11 | Joubu | Bug 19808 is critical and NSO, It would be good to have it backported for the next stable branches which will be released in few days |
| 14:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode |
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| 14:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]afd487ce506fabadf> / Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95e2d8fe1ee34cac1> |
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| 14:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]084736b91317e63ee> / Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4f500b2df244599c0> |
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| 14:58 | josef_moravec | bye #koha |
| 14:59 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #315: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/315/ |
| 14:59 | * chrisweeks: Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions | |
| 14:59 | * jessicafreeman: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution | |
| 15:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19510 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrisweeks, Pushed to Master , edi_manage permission has no description |
| 15:00 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19714 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jessicafreeman, Pushed to Master , 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution have not been removed | |
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| 15:06 | Joubu | khall: could you take a look at bug 19696 please? |
| 15:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19696 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , HoldsQueue.t is failing randomly |
| 15:06 | Joubu | Jenkins is failing randomly on this test, but I cannot figure out why |
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| 15:07 | Joubu | the holds queue is created in the wrong order, sometimes... |
| 15:09 | khall: I guess the reservedate=CURRENT_DATE() should be adjusted, to have reservedate with different values | |
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| 15:29 | Joubu | @later tell fridolin ping on bug 17951 please |
| 15:29 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:41 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:41 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 15:41 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #316: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/316/ |
| 15:41 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks | |
| 15:41 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman | |
| 15:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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| 17:08 | * oleonard | remembers he needs to buy a new bag of kidclamp food |
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| 17:24 | cait | oleonard: what does it consist of? |
| 17:25 | oleonard | No idea, but it comes in a convenient 50 pound bag. |
| 17:25 | cait | handy |
| 17:54 | Joubu | oleonard: why are we the only 2 to think the preview for notices is awesome? |
| 17:54 | oleonard | :) |
| 18:42 | greenjimll | Just a heads up: bug 19724 means that reset_all on kohadevbox doesn't build a working database, because the file /home/vagrant/misc4dev/data/sql/marc21/1611/after_17196/biblio_metadata.sql no longer has the right number of values for the columns in the biblio_metadata table. |
| 18:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata |
| 18:43 | cait | maybe file an issue on kohadevbox? |
| 18:43 | i think the script is specific to it, so needs to be fixed there probably | |
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| 18:44 | greenjimll | I'm going to but I thought I'd point this out here as other folk might smash into it if they regularly blow away their kohadevbox DB like I do. ;-) |
| 18:46 | Joubu | it is fied |
| 18:46 | fied | |
| 18:47 | I sent an email to koha-devel on December 7th | |
| 18:48 | greenjimll: ^ | |
| 18:49 | greenjimll | Ah, sorry, didn't spot that and it didn't pop up in my Google searches. Oh well, the issue on kohadevbox can be closed quickly then! |
| 18:59 | Joubu | you close it without the solution :) |
| 19:00 | bug 19798 | |
| 19:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19798 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Returns.pl doesn't define itemnumber for transfer-slip. |
| 19:00 | Joubu | must be SO/QA and backported ASAP |
| 19:01 | it's critical actually | |
| 19:01 | * Joubu | still does not have a big red button... |
| 19:11 | greenjimll | Testing Bug 19808 but I don't seem to be able to make master blow up! |
| 19:11 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode |
| 19:13 | greenjimll | Ah ha, a restart_all gets me the 500 error. |
| 19:15 | oleonard | greenjimll: I was just testing that too but got interrupted. Looks okay to me except that in the OPAC the comment labels don't look right when there is no patron |
| 19:15 | Instead of "Added 2016-12-19 by John Smith" it says "Added" | |
| 19:16 | greenjimll | Is this in opac-detail.pl? |
| 19:16 | oleonard | opac-showreviews.pl |
| 19:16 | ...and that led me to notice that the reviews table isn't storing the date of submitted reviews | |
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| 19:20 | greenjimll | Ah yes, I see what you mean. Incidentally is the terminology of "comments" and "reviews" could do with being a bit more consistent. |
| 19:21 | oleonard | The interface should always say "comments" |
| 19:21 | The file names and db lag behind that change | |
| 19:21 | greenjimll | I spent a while looking for a separate "reviews" section. :-) |
| 19:22 | I tend to think of "comments" as short notes, whereas "reviews" are something a bit more lengthy and in depth. Probably just me though. | |
| 19:23 | It does seem to fix the problem though... so is it worth signing off or is the "Added" something that needs fixing first? | |
| 19:23 | Joubu | oleonard: I am gonna fix it right now |
| 19:25 | greenjimll | Rightio, I'll hold off signing off on this then, and go home for my tea. :-) |
| 19:26 | Joubu | datereviewed is not supposed to be null |
| 19:26 | and it is | |
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| 20:02 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
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| 20:48 | rangi | Joubu: hmm the db_dependent/Bookseller.t fails on master for me too |
| 20:49 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu it is failing here for me on master" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/116 |
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| 23:06 | KotH | a wonderfull good evening! |
| 23:06 | i come here, with the eternal question of what I should do if i cannot find a MARC entry for a book online | |
| 23:07 | are there some #exactsteps how to create one? | |
| 23:07 | currently it just looks like black magic ^^' | |
| 23:09 | cait | i think on loc.gov/marc there is something like a tutorial |
| 23:09 | but marc is a bit like black magic :) | |
| 23:10 | KotH | ^^' |
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| 23:10 | wizzyrea | my advice is: tab through tab 0, put in a 100a and a 245a, fill in the required fields on tab 9 |
| 23:11 | ISBN if you must | |
| 23:11 | the record won't be complete, but it will at least turn up in your catalogue. | |
| 23:11 | KotH | and what is the implications of having a non-complete record? |
| 23:13 | wizzyrea | none really |
| 23:13 | if you aren't sharing the record and it's only for you | |
| 23:13 | pf who cares. | |
| 23:14 | Koha certainly doesn't care. | |
| 23:14 | KotH | it's veeeery unlikely that i'm going to share those records with anyone... it's just my private library :) |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea: thanks! | |
| 23:14 | wizzyrea | there you go. :) |
| 23:14 | no worries | |
| 23:15 | sen | So I'm just getting started with Koha, I've got a biblio entry for something (via copy cataloging from a Z39.50 source), but when I try to add a holding entry for that, all the dropdown boxes say "No matches found". Did I miss a setup step somewhere? |
| 23:15 | wizzyrea | sen: did you install the default values for authorised values? |
| 23:16 | lots of people don't and then wonder why there are no values in the drop downs. Some of that sample data shouldn't be optional. | |
| 23:17 | (we tried to fix it but it was hard (tm) because of translatability) | |
| 23:17 | sen | Ahh, "authorised values" is the keyword I wasn't coming up with, thank you! Now I've found the area where that all gets entered and I can sort it out. I must have missed that checkbox during setup, yep! Is there an easy way to do it now, or am I entering things by hand? |
| 23:17 | wizzyrea | well, if you are server savvy |
| 23:17 | (are you? how do you feel about the command line?) | |
| 23:18 | KotH | wizzyrea: btw: long long ago, ie in august, we discussed label printing for koha. and you asked that i'd tell you what i choose to do. I ended up writing a short perl script that generates png and another (not so short) perl script that interfaces to the labelprinter |
| 23:18 | sen | I'm server savvy, have been a DBA and a sysadmin in past lives :) |
| 23:18 | wizzyrea | neat |
| 23:18 | ok so you can do | |
| 23:19 | cat /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql | sudo koha-mysql <instancename> | |
| 23:19 | instancename whatever you named your instance | |
| 23:19 | you can see with sudo koha-list --enabled | |
| 23:19 | KotH: I don't remember this but I've slept since then :) | |
| 23:20 | you might also want, from that same directory | |
| 23:20 | sample_itemtypes.sql | |
| 23:20 | patron_categories.sql | |
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| 23:22 | KotH | ok,... who do i have to hug for the tag editor? |
| 23:22 | that thing is great! why haven't i seen that before? | |
| 23:22 | wizzyrea | not sure what you mean but glad you are happy :) |
| 23:23 | KotH | this small, rectangular icon at the right side of fields i have no idea what they mean |
| 23:23 | pops up a window with drop down boxes | |
| 23:23 | wizzyrea | that's been there forever |
| 23:23 | sen | wizzyrea: I did import patron categories and item types, just not authorised values :) trying this now. |
| 23:23 | wizzyrea | since marc was included in Koha pretty much |
| 23:24 | sen: cool beans :) | |
| 23:25 | sen | Much better! Thanks so much, that would have taken me forever to figure out on my own. |
| 23:26 | wizzyrea | if you are inclined, a possible thing would be to patch the installer so that at least the text on that one says "hey you might actually really want these" |
| 23:27 | so as to keep future you-alikes from having the same problem :) | |
| 23:31 | sen | Heh, makes sense! I'll see if I can figure out where that is and do so. |
| 23:31 | KotH | wizzyrea: what's the purpose of 100a? the documentation on loc.gov/marc doesnt make sense to me |
| 23:32 | wizzyrea | that's the author |
| 23:32 | the person who wrote it | |
| 23:32 | KotH | isnt that 245c? |
| 23:32 | wizzyrea | not strictly speaking no |
| 23:33 | Generally speaking, the 100a is the place for a single author. In your case, where you just want the record in, it's the right place for it. | |
| 23:33 | KotH | ok... |
| 23:34 | i just got puzzled because none of the entries i got have 100a defined | |
| 23:34 | wizzyrea | that seems like you got not good marc records. |
| 23:35 | * KotH | shrugs |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | (it doesn't matter if you are happy with the display though) |
| 23:35 | KotH | half of them are from the library of congress, the other half from the swiss library network |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | maybe the records are in unimarc? |
| 23:35 | KotH | uhmm... what's that? ^^' |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | idk what they use in switzerland |
| 23:35 | there are different standards in different places, for MARC | |
| 23:36 | USMARC is what LOC will use, and what I am referencing | |
| 23:36 | UNIMARC is mostly france, and some of europe | |
| 23:36 | I know exactly 0 about unimarc. | |
| 23:36 | KotH | if france uses unimarc, then switzerland is likely to use it as well |
| 23:36 | wizzyrea | except that it exists ;) |
| 23:37 | pass, I can make no assertion of knowledge there | |
| 23:37 | KotH | ok.. i checked more books, some have an 100a, some dont |
| 23:37 | does it matter whether i mix them? | |
| 23:38 | beside having a mess | |
| 23:41 | sen | wizzyrea: heh, I just looked at the docs again and they highlight the authorised values as mandatory and they're in a section of the installer labelled MANDATORY. So this seems like 100% my fault! |
| 23:41 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 23:50 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 23:50 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 23:50 | jenkins | Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #93: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/93/ |
| 23:50 | chrisc: Bug 19593: follow up to fix tests | |
| 23:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19593 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , [16.11.x] "Delete vendor" button is always set |
| 23:55 | sen | Yay, item added and checking it out works :) |
| 23:56 | wizzyrea | confetti |
| 23:56 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 23:57 | sen | hee :) |
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