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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | mtj | ping Joubu, tcohen.. jenkins/docker3 is up again |
| 00:03 | ...but, there may be an index/pack problem with the Koha_17.11_D8 repo? | |
| 00:05 | the /.git/objects/pack dir seems a bit biggish (39 gig) | |
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| 00:30 | mtj | btw, really great news from sweden too |
| 00:43 | tcohen | mtj++ |
| 01:30 | mtj | have others had their servers DOS'd by lots of 'background-job-progress.pl' queries? |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | hm we haven't seen that one |
| 01:31 | possible that they clicked GO GO GO GO GO GO GO on something, not realising it was already going? | |
| 01:33 | mtj | ...seems that the background-job-progressbar.js refresh is every 500 milliseconds |
| 01:35 | hi wizzyrea, no... the requests are from the same job-id... so potentially just a single job/ single browser | |
| 01:36 | great news tho... fix is to increase the sleep value to 10 secs | |
| 01:37 | ..a happy number for both system and user | |
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| 01:38 | mtj | backgroundJobProgressTimer = setInterval("updateJobProgress()", 10000); |
| 01:39 | in... ./intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/background-job-progressbar.js | |
| 01:39 | fo the logs.. :0) | |
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| 01:52 | chea | Hi everyone |
| 01:53 | anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA! | |
| 01:56 | I was trying to import MARC record from newgenlib to KOHA but it came with partial | |
| 02:35 | tcohen | Hi everyone |
| 02:35 | Thanks for taking care mtj | |
| 02:36 | docker node | |
| 02:37 | gandaro | hey everyone |
| 02:37 | wahanui | hmmm... everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver |
| 02:41 | gandaro | Does Koha support HTTP caching? |
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| 02:55 | chea | hello, anyone can advise how to migrate database from NewGenlib to KOHA! thanks! |
| 03:01 | mtj | no probs, tcohen |
| 03:05 | gandaro, i think no.. that might be the caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service? | |
| 03:05 | gandaro, i think no.. caching would be a job for the http or http-proxy service? | |
| 03:06 | ...with mod_cache perhaps? | |
| 03:06 | https://httpd.apache.org/docs/[…]od/mod_cache.html | |
| 03:11 | chea: i think there is not too much info about NGL to Koha on the web ... :'( | |
| 03:14 | chea | mtj: thank for the info. : ( |
| 03:15 | mtj | you can google ... 'newgenlib to koha migration' |
| 03:15 | ..someone is asking for advise in 2009 and 2015 | |
| 03:17 | advice too :) | |
| 03:17 | fk | mtj: hm, yeah. the httpd can create the required ETags |
| 03:19 | Can someone explain to me how the assignee of bugs is determined by Bugzilla | |
| 03:19 | Because there’s always someone whom the bug is assigned to | |
| 03:20 | Even if the bug wasn’t changed since it was reported | |
| 03:22 | mtj | fk, every bugs has a 'component' |
| 03:23 | ..every component has a default admin user | |
| 03:24 | the bug is assigned to its components admin, by default | |
| 03:27 | chea: the best general advice is to use MarcEdit to get your bib/item records ready for import in Koha | |
| 03:28 | chea | mtj: i tried to export MARC from NGL and import into Koha but the records came with partial only. |
| 03:30 | mtj | yep.. so i might need to use macedit to correct those problems ^ |
| 03:31 | chea | i see... thank for sharing.. let do a try.. |
| 03:31 | :) | |
| 03:41 | fk | mtj: thank you |
| 03:45 | chea | mtj: after imported into Marcedit |
| 03:46 | it's something like this | |
| 03:46 | 01157nam#a0000313ua#124 001001300000008004100013010001500054015001900069016001800088020003100106035002300137040003500160050002400195100002300219245005500242250001200297260003400309300003600343500002000379504005100399650003200450650003100482650002100513906004500534925004200579955019800621082001100819876001300830###86104385#091014r20111985nyua 001 0 eng a2009042360 aGBB0316702bnb7 a0154953282Uk a9781259060632 (alk. paper) aOCoLC)ocn45672 | |
| 03:46 | i don't know where to start from this.. | |
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| 06:55 | magnuse | ~~~ |
| 06:56 | josef_moravec_away | morning #koha |
| 07:01 | LibraryClaire | hi #koha |
| 07:04 | josef_moravec_away | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:04 | LibraryClaire | hi josef_moravec_away :) |
| 07:04 | josef_moravec_away | ha |
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| 07:04 | LibraryClaire | :D |
| 07:06 | * magnuse | counts the days before the sun "turns" |
| 07:06 | LibraryClaire | is it dark now? |
| 07:06 | magnuse: do you have a winter solstice party? | |
| 07:07 | magnuse | right now it is completely dark |
| 07:07 | but it does get light in the middle of the day | |
| 07:07 | LibraryClaire | for how long? |
| 07:07 | wahanui | for how long are they open? |
| 07:07 | * LibraryClaire | shoos wahanui |
| 07:07 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:08 | depends on how light you want it before you count it as light... | |
| 07:08 | LibraryClaire | :D |
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| 07:08 | magnuse | but maybe 4 hours - if you want light like an overcast summers day |
| 07:08 | LibraryClaire | ok |
| 07:09 | brrr | |
| 07:09 | magnuse | less than two weeks now and days start getting longer |
| 07:09 | there is very little celebration of the winter solstice | |
| 07:09 | i have tried to make it a tradition, but some years i forget... | |
| 07:10 | too close to xmas, i guess | |
| 07:10 | or... i prefer to see xmas as a (delayed) celebration of the solstice, so that way there is plenty of celebration | |
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| 07:13 | LibraryClaire | :D |
| 07:13 | I am going to the UK for Christmas and will be visiting Stonehenge, but will probably miss the solstice by one day! | |
| 07:15 | Maybe that's a good thing | |
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| 07:50 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | magnuse | LibraryClaire: cool! are there things in stonehenge that are aligned with the solstice? |
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| 07:56 | LibraryClaire | the stones are positioned to align with the sunrise on the two solstices |
| 07:56 | it should rise directly above one of the stones | |
| 07:57 | so in summer and winter a lot of people go there to celebrate, many of them are druids | |
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| 08:25 | magnuse | LibraryClaire: i can imagine |
| 08:25 | * magnuse | had an uncle who was a druid |
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| 08:26 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:26 | wahanui | niihau, gaetan_B |
| 08:26 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
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| 08:46 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 08:52 | tcohen | bonjour |
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| 08:53 | andreashm | hi tcohen |
| 08:54 | tcohen: no accountlines on your rest api list i noticed? =) | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm, tcohen |
| 08:54 | fridolin | hi |
| 08:54 | * andreashm | tried to get open api to work with 17.05. soooooo not working. gah. |
| 08:54 | tcohen | andreashm: he, step by step I guess |
| 08:54 | * andreashm | probably messed up big-time somewhere |
| 09:03 | andreashm | hi magnuse and fridolin btw! |
| 09:03 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 09:03 | andreashm | hi LibraryClaire |
| 09:04 | tcohen | hye magnuse LibraryClaire |
| 09:04 | magnuse | ~o~ |
| 09:07 | LibraryClaire | hey tcohen, andreashm |
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| 09:11 | andreashm | tcohen: do you know any way I can test Mojolicious/the open api plugin directly to see if they work as intended? |
| 09:11 | tcohen | some context? |
| 09:12 | there are tests for the existing endpoints | |
| 09:13 | or you can just use a separate tool | |
| 09:13 | to interact with the API | |
| 09:13 | I used HttpRequester on Firefox | |
| 09:13 | andreashm | tcohen: I've upgraded to 17.05. to get bug 15165 to work I updated mojolicous and openapi (manually, since the patch for 18137 didn't apply). after that nothing works. =) |
| 09:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15165 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Failed QA , REST API routes to list, edit and pay borrower's accountlines |
| 09:13 | andreashm | I'd like to check that the update/install actually works. before trying more with Kohas endpoints |
| 09:14 | tcohen | but on newer firefox I had to use RESTer |
| 09:14 | andreashm | I ran the testsuite. lots of failed tests |
| 09:14 | tcohen | I usually login into a privileged account |
| 09:14 | and then use RESTer to emulate the interactions | |
| 09:14 | i.e. | |
| 09:15 | GET http://kohadev-intra.myDNSname[…]81/api/v1/patrons | |
| 09:15 | (for example) | |
| 09:15 | the required changes to the codebase include changes to the core libraries more often | |
| 09:16 | so I suggest you don't go that way in production | |
| 09:16 | it would be easier to achieve on 17.11 | |
| 09:18 | andreashm | yeah |
| 09:18 | we might have to upgrade to 17.11 instead | |
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| 09:25 | magnuse | josef_moravec++ |
| 09:26 | josef_moravec | magnuse: could I have a Question? What is the simplest way to install Fuseki for testing? |
| 09:27 | cait | josef_moravec: looking for the payment type bug... probably got the number confused once again |
| 09:28 | * tcohen | is surprised the new QAM hasn't pushed him yet into QAing stuff |
| 09:28 | cait | she is still working up to it |
| 09:29 | bit of a crazy week, need to get organized this weekend, be afraid starting next week | |
| 09:29 | better yougo and qa something before I get there ... :) | |
| 09:30 | hah | |
| 09:30 | bug 5620 | |
| 09:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5620 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Signed Off , Capture Mode of payment |
| 09:31 | josef_moravec | cait: thanks, I'll look into it and comment "somehow) ;) |
| 09:31 | cait | sorry, really bad with numbers |
| 09:33 | andreashm | josef_moravec: hurray for testing bug 10662! |
| 09:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 09:34 | magnuse | josef_moravec: sorry, i must confess i don't remember how i did the installation... |
| 09:34 | josef_moravec | magnuse: no problem, I do try something ;) |
| 09:34 | cait: the numbers, I know ;) | |
| 09:34 | magnuse | josef_moravec: if you can/want to use my installation for testing you are more than welcome! |
| 09:35 | josef_moravec | magnuse: it would be great! could you send me the config? |
| 09:53 | cait | josef_moravec++ |
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| 09:56 | cait | paul_p: around? |
| 10:02 | andreashm | tcohen: going back to the rest issue. if I don't login first I get an authentication error. which would seem that there is an endpoint. but after login I get a 404. seems weird to me. either it's there, or not? |
| 10:02 | tcohen | it depends on what you are asking for |
| 10:03 | if you are asking for a non existent resource, you should definitely get a 404 | |
| 10:04 | for example, you might be trying to GET /api/v1/patrons/666 but there's no such patron id | |
| 10:04 | on the DB | |
| 10:05 | ashimema | there are three types of failure we need to work on for such a case.. 401, 403 and 404 and there are various idea's out there about which one's you should use when you take into account security policies.. |
| 10:05 | andreashm | yeah, but I'm looking at something that does excist |
| 10:05 | ashimema | I don't know what koha chose ;) |
| 10:05 | andreashm | I get 404 for everything (patrons, checking hold, accountlines) |
| 10:06 | all endpoints | |
| 10:06 | ashimema | is that when your not authenticated on authenticated routes? |
| 10:07 | andreashm | nope, when I've gotten a cookie |
| 10:07 | ashimema | so it's some peoples opinion that if a resource requires authentication then it should be entirely hidden from the world (i.e. a 404) if there is no authentication.. |
| 10:07 | andreashm | bofre that, it correctly gives an authentication error |
| 10:07 | ashimema | other people say you shuold use the proper 403 (to say you need to authenticate) |
| 10:08 | but the latter can open up a DDOS avenue | |
| 10:08 | andreashm | but in this case I have authenticated. |
| 10:08 | ashimema | so.. we're doing the latter.. if a route 'might' exist and needs auth we send a 403 |
| 10:08 | andreashm | ah |
| 10:09 | ashimema | if you then authenticate and hit the route again.. if the actual resource doesn't exist we give a 404 |
| 10:09 | or if it does we give a 200 | |
| 10:09 | right? | |
| 10:09 | andreashm | ok, now it makes sense |
| 10:09 | ashimema | or are you saying the actual resource exists and still gives a 404 after auth |
| 10:09 | andreashm | if its correct its 200 I think |
| 10:10 | the resource exists... but it seems I've broken.... something in the endpoints/api | |
| 10:10 | * andreashm | upgraded mojolicious+the open api plugin yesterday |
| 10:11 | andreashm | (testing to see if I can get it to work on 17.05, in order to apply 15165) |
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| 10:17 | ashimema | :) |
| 10:18 | * ashimema | shirks back to the day job.. which will hopefully involve koha again come february |
| 10:18 | ashimema | but right now doesn't :'( |
| 10:19 | eythian | hello |
| 10:19 | wahanui | kia ora, eythian |
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| 12:41 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 12:44 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 12:44 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
| 12:49 | eythian | huh, there's some kind of "sun" thing visible outside at the moment. |
| 12:49 | This morning I got snowed on | |
| 12:49 | (and luckily avoided a nasty looking hailstorm.) | |
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| 13:03 | oleonard | There is evidence that we have a "sun" here to eythian. I'll continue to check throughout the day and provide you with updates. |
| 13:04 | eythian | Breaking news indeed. |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Current evidence feels circumstantial. http://zivotdesign.com/p/view.[…]?p=15127385983967 |
| 13:12 | Joubu | oleonard: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14966687495978 |
| 13:12 | where is that? | |
| 13:13 | oleonard | That was an idea for changing the way the patron search options work |
| 13:13 | Joubu | I like it |
| 13:14 | oleonard | At the time no one else said they did :) |
| 13:14 | ...no one else who happened to be reading the bug I guess. | |
| 13:15 | Joubu | what's the bug number? |
| 13:15 | oleonard | To be fair, it was a suggestion for a bug fix rather than an enhancement. I'll try to find it. |
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| 13:28 | LibraryClaire | Anyone know what triggers the offline circulation module to think of you as 'offline'? Mine won't let me sync or look at pending things cos I'm 'offline' (but I'm very definitely online) |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Joubu: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]7-06-12#i_1943005 |
| 13:28 | It was about Bug 18685 | |
| 13:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18685 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Patron edit/cancel floating toolbar out of place |
| 13:29 | LibraryClaire | I was bug testing and got an internal server error and since then it hates me, even on master |
| 13:31 | oleonard | Ghosts. |
| 13:31 | tcohen | IIIIIIIIIII love teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeests |
| 13:32 | * tcohen | got up too early and forgot the pill |
| 13:34 | * LibraryClaire | shoos away the ghosts |
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| 14:09 | oleonard | Anyone here familiar with the "additional fields" option for serials? |
| 14:16 | Joubu | oleonard: what's the question? |
| 14:16 | wahanui | the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 14:17 | oleonard | What is supposed to happen if I create a field and specify a tag? |
| 14:18 | Is something supposed to appear in the field input on the subscription add/edit page? | |
| 14:18 | Joubu | when you edit a subscription, the additional field will be automatically filled with the value from the MARC |
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| 14:19 | Joubu | yes (or just after you save?) |
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| 14:20 | cait | Joubu: that didn't work for me :( |
| 14:20 | Joubu | It sais "This value will be filled with the 245$a subfield of the selected biblio." |
| 14:20 | says | |
| 14:20 | cait | maybe we did it wrong |
| 14:20 | i think we entered 245$a | |
| 14:20 | i put it on the docs wish list i think,t he page has no real help | |
| 14:20 | Joubu | works for me |
| 14:20 | cait | how did you enterß |
| 14:21 | Joubu | 245$a |
| 14:21 | cait | hm |
| 14:21 | Joubu | | 1 | subscription | xxx | | 245$a | 1 | |
| 14:21 | and the interface displays: | |
| 14:21 | Additional fields: | |
| 14:21 | cait | ok, we did the same |
| 14:21 | Joubu | xxx: E Street shuffle : |
| 14:21 | cait | now when you add the subscription or when you edit it too? |
| 14:21 | Joubu | add a new one |
| 14:22 | cait | so it won't get updated? |
| 14:22 | Joubu | edit works as well BUT it does not display on the edit/add page |
| 14:22 | the field is disabled and filled when saved | |
| 14:22 | cait | if you make it searchable it turns up on the search |
| 14:23 | Joubu | yes |
| 14:23 | cait | ah |
| 14:23 | Joubu | and the search/fitler works |
| 14:23 | cait | if you edit it it updates |
| 14:23 | edit the subscription | |
| 14:23 | cool | |
| 14:23 | oleonard | I hadn't put in a subfield along with the tag. We should probably add some hints |
| 14:23 | cait | we recently had an 'internal serials training' and some problems figuring that one out |
| 14:23 | oleonard: agreed! | |
| 14:24 | oleonard: the marc tag is optional, most of our libraries use it just to store additional information, links, binding information, etc. | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | if I edit the title of the record, I have a update the subscription |
| 14:25 | the additional fields are not updated when the bibliographic record is edited | |
| 14:25 | only when the subscription is edited | |
| 14:25 | (I suggested a cronjob script to keep them in sync) | |
| 14:29 | cait | Joubu: it worked for me |
| 14:29 | i changed the 145$a, edited and now it shows the new value | |
| 14:30 | ah | |
| 14:30 | yes, you are completely right | |
| 14:30 | was reading too fast | |
| 14:32 | Joubu | (I do not understand what I wrote either... sounds like I forgot a couple of words) |
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| 15:28 | kellym | good morning! |
| 15:28 | wahanui | the only good morning is a dead one |
| 15:29 | oleonard | Why don't you go check your mascara, wahanui |
| 15:29 | wahanui | oleonard: sorry... |
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| 15:37 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:19 | fridolin | whouuu packaging for 17.11 is out |
| 16:19 | thanks droj | |
| 16:19 | f | |
| 16:20 | clrh | :) |
| 16:29 | * Joubu | tries to imagine wahanui with mascara |
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| 18:29 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #3: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_17.11_D8/3/ |
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| 18:35 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 18:35 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 18:54 | oleonard | No one here LeeJ. All empty. |
| 18:55 | LeeJ | just like my soul and motivation, oleonard |
| 19:00 | oleonard | It is Friday, after all LeeJ |
| 19:00 | LeeJ | that's true |
| 19:00 | I always forget everyone else has an actual life outside of work lol | |
| 19:57 | oleonard | Bye all |
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