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| 07:01 | magnuse | ~~~ |
| 07:18 | LibraryClaire | hi magnuse |
| 07:18 | wahanui | kamelåså |
| 07:19 | magnuse | Guten Morgen, BüchereiKlara. Wie geht's? |
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| 08:08 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:10 | wahanui | hola, gaetan_B |
| 08:11 | LibraryClaire | hi magnuse, gut danke! Sorry was looking at my other screens :D |
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| 08:22 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:32 | fridolin | hi there |
| 08:32 | wahanui | privet, fridolin |
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| 08:37 | magnuse | LibraryClaire: me too :-) |
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| 09:28 | clrh | hi |
| 09:44 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 09:48 | eythian | hi |
| 09:48 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
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| 10:56 | * cait | wabes |
| 10:56 | cait | hm |
| 10:56 | * cait | waves |
| 10:56 | josef_moravec | ;) |
| 10:56 | cait | feels like Monday... |
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| 11:16 | * mveron | waves |
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| 12:42 | oleonard | Yo |
| 12:43 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 12:43 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 12:49 | Joubu | hola #koha |
| 12:49 | tcohen | hola Joubu |
| 12:51 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard and Joubu and tcohen |
| 12:55 | oleonard | matts++ |
| 12:55 | matts | oleonard, for koct ? |
| 12:55 | oleonard | Yes, thanks! |
| 12:55 | matts | you're welcome :) |
| 12:56 | oleonard | With so much going wrong with Firefox addons these days, it's nice to get some good news! |
| 12:56 | matts | It just has been approved by Mozilla, so the update should be available right now |
| 12:56 | * oleonard | sheds a tear for Tabs Mix Plus |
| 12:57 | eythian | I think I saw some tab extensions were coming back |
| 12:57 | not perfectly yet, but getting there | |
| 12:58 | tcohen | matts++ |
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| 13:02 | oleonard | Does anyone know why a lost item fee might not be charged to the patron's account... sometimes? |
| 13:02 | In our production 17.05.05 installation fees are charged for lost items in some tests but not others. | |
| 13:03 | I didn't think there were any patron category-related settings for it | |
| 13:04 | WhenLostChargeReplacementFee is set to "charge" | |
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| 13:04 | tcohen | is it a vanilla 17.05? |
| 13:06 | oleonard | Yes |
| 13:18 | Joubu | 17.05.? |
| 13:18 | wahanui | somebody said 17.05 was coming very soon, do we have time for majors and criticals? |
| 13:18 | Joubu | .05, sorry :) |
| 13:20 | there is WhenLostForgiveFine as well | |
| 13:20 | but if it is on the same installation, the behaviour should stay the same | |
| 13:24 | @seen marcelr | |
| 13:24 | huginn | Joubu: marcelr was last seen in #koha 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <marcelr> he just got out |
| 13:27 | tcohen | alex_a: around? |
| 13:28 | alex_a | tcohen: yes! |
| 13:28 | (hello) | |
| 13:28 | tcohen | I'm looking at the libraries endpoint right now |
| 13:29 | would you agree it is a good candidate for renaming all the attributes? | |
| 13:29 | branchname => name, branchcity => city, and so on? | |
| 13:30 | and there are a couple 'unused' params we should definitely remove from the API | |
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| 14:54 | tcohen | dev meeting? |
| 14:54 | wahanui | i guess dev meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]pers_IRC_Meetings |
| 14:55 | cait | now? |
| 14:55 | wahanui | hey now now, sing this corrosion to me |
| 14:55 | Joubu | next meeting? |
| 14:55 | next meetings? | |
| 14:55 | next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings | |
| 14:56 | next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings | |
| 14:56 | next dev meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings | |
| 14:56 | next meeting? | |
| 14:56 | wahanui | well, next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 14:58 | cait | pet peeve... don't link 'here' |
| 14:58 | links shoudl be meaningful words :) | |
| 14:59 | oleonard | Agreed |
| 15:00 | Freddy_Enrique | Hi everyone |
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| 15:01 | cait | hi Freddy_Enrique |
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| 15:16 | Joubu | calendar? |
| 15:16 | wahanui | calendar is right |
| 15:16 | Joubu | calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
| 15:17 | tcohen | wahanui: forget that |
| 15:17 | wahanui | tcohen: I forgot that |
| 15:17 | Joubu | calendar? |
| 15:17 | wahanui | calendar is right |
| 15:17 | Joubu | forget calendar |
| 15:17 | wahanui | Joubu: I forgot calendar |
| 15:17 | Joubu | calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
| 15:17 | calendar? | |
| 15:17 | wahanui | i guess calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ |
| 15:17 | Joubu | good guess |
| 15:17 | tcohen | .-P |
| 15:18 | Freddy_Enrique | I'm getting scared.... |
| 15:18 | looks like virus | |
| 15:20 | eythian | Joubu: try: |
| 15:20 | no wahanui, calendar is https://koha-community.org/calendar/ | |
| 15:20 | wahanui | i already had it that way, eythian. |
| 15:20 | eythian | for that sort of thing |
| 15:20 | it does a replace | |
| 15:20 | Joubu | eythian: thanks, I will try to remember that :) |
| 15:20 | tcohen | eythian: you mean trolling wahanui? |
| 15:20 | oleonard | no wahanui, capybara is the largest rodent |
| 15:21 | eythian | capybara? |
| 15:21 | wahanui | capybara is the largest rodent |
| 15:21 | eythian | tcohen: would I ever do something like that? |
| 15:21 | hi oleonard | |
| 15:21 | wahanui | hi dear loon |
| 15:21 | * tcohen | looks suspiciously at eythian |
| 15:22 | Joubu | oleonard: ! I saw hundred of them this week-end! |
| 15:22 | they are called carpincho here | |
| 15:23 | * oleonard | is jealous |
| 15:23 | eythian | wahanui: carpincho is <reply>ask me about the capybara, $who |
| 15:23 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 15:24 | Joubu | they look like a mix between a guinea pig and hippopotamuses... |
| 15:25 | the nature is weird sometimes | |
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| 15:33 | Freddy_Enrique | jajaja |
| 16:13 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:58 | Joubu | tcohen: Does bug 19760 make sense to you? |
| 16:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible |
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| 17:33 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen Does bug 19760 make sense to you? |
| 17:33 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:41 | oleonard | Can't call method "unblessed" on an undefined value at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/serials/routing.pl line 99 |
| 17:42 | Oh I wonder if this is because of my messed-up borrowers table again. | |
| 17:42 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 17:42 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
| 17:43 | greenjimll | Hi! |
| 17:43 | Joubu | oleonard: I guess so, subscriptionroutinglist has a FK on borrowers, so it should not happen |
| 17:43 | LeeJ | hi greenjimll |
| 17:44 | greenjimll | Bug 19760 looks pretty sensible to me - if there's no config things are likely to go badly wrong anyway. |
| 17:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19760 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Die instead of warn if koha-conf is not accessible |
| 17:46 | Joubu | greenjimll: so you are going to sign it off, right? :) |
| 17:46 | greenjimll | Just firing up the old kohadevbox now. |
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| 18:00 | greenjimll | OK, I've signed off on 19760. Even documented my test. :-) |
| 18:06 | Joubu | thx! |
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| 18:17 | tcohen | Joubu: I would raise an exception instead, of course |
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| 18:25 | * cait | waves |
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| 18:28 | greenjimll | Hi Cait |
| 18:28 | cait | hi greenjimll |
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| 18:33 | em_ | hey guys |
| 18:34 | i am trying to open OPAC page and it says Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page error and I'm not able to access it... can anyone help? | |
| 18:36 | Joubu | em_: Try to disable the default site |
| 18:36 | em_ | it was working fine before... until I try to build zebra files |
| 18:36 | Joubu | sudo a2dissite default; sudo reload apache2 |
| 18:36 | sudo service apache2 reload | |
| 18:38 | em_ | sudo dissite default... I get the error message ERROR: Site default does not exist! |
| 18:39 | Joubu | sudo a2dissite 000-default |
| 18:39 | em_ | site 000-deault lready disabled |
| 18:40 | *already | |
| 18:40 | Joubu | Tale a look at the apache logs then |
| 18:40 | em_ | how do I do that? |
| 18:41 | Joubu | sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log |
| 18:41 | then hit the page | |
| 18:41 | em_ | i went ahead and tried sudo reload apace2... it gave me error: reload: unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/up start:connection refused |
| 18:42 | Joubu | ubuntu version? |
| 18:43 | em_ | yes |
| 18:43 | Joubu | which ubuntu version are you using? |
| 18:43 | did you made an upgrade recently? | |
| 18:45 | em_ | 16.04 LTS |
| 18:45 | no i haven't made any upgrades | |
| 18:45 | but I was trying to do the zebra files | |
| 18:46 | I was following the steps from http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]nces-of-koha.html this link | |
| 18:46 | Joubu | it's old and certainly wrong |
| 18:46 | em_ | ohh |
| 18:46 | Joubu | please follow the official documentation |
| 18:46 | em_ | didn't know that |
| 18:46 | where is the official document? | |
| 18:46 | the only thing I got is this https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ges#Zebra-related | |
| 18:47 | and here it only gave me commands but didn't give me how to set up zebra files | |
| 18:47 | Joubu | installation? |
| 18:47 | wahanui | installation is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 18:47 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
| 18:48 | you just need the rebuild command | |
| 18:48 | em_ | how do i rebuild it? |
| 18:49 | is there a way I can get my OPAC page back online? | |
| 18:49 | Joubu | On the link you just pasted: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instancename |
| 18:50 | em_ | ok |
| 18:51 | it still doesn't bring back my opac | |
| 18:51 | it now says this site can't be reached | |
| 18:52 | Joubu | sudo service apache2 restart |
| 18:52 | and look at the apache logs | |
| 18:52 | * LeeJ | waves to cait |
| 18:52 | em_ | what should I be looking in the log... |
| 18:53 | Joubu | open 2 terminals: |
| 18:53 | on the first one: sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log | |
| 18:53 | on the second one: sudo service apache2 restart | |
| 18:53 | and get back to the first one | |
| 18:53 | em_ | ok |
| 18:54 | now to look at the log i need to use the command sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log right? | |
| 18:55 | Joubu | yes |
| 18:55 | em_ | ok |
| 18:57 | when I enter this sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/*.log command I get a huge chunk of text in the terminal itself... | |
| 18:57 | is it correct? | |
| 18:57 | Joubu | ye |
| 18:57 | s | |
| 18:58 | em_ | where can I find the 2 terminals in that? |
| 18:58 | or what should I do next? | |
| 19:01 | Joubu | I am sorry, I have no idea how I can help more |
| 19:01 | you need to know what is the apache error. This error should be in the apache log file (/var/log/apache2/error.log) when the apache2 service is restart (sudo service apache2 restart) | |
| 19:06 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when trying to preview routing slip" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103 |
| 19:08 | Joubu | oleonard: master? |
| 19:08 | wahanui | master is the development branch of koha |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:09 | Joubu | how can I try that? |
| 19:10 | cait | make a subscription |
| 19:10 | oleonard | Serials -> Find subscription -> "Edit routing list" in the sidebar -> Save -> "Save and preview routing slip" |
| 19:10 | cait | ah :) |
| 19:11 | make sure routing is turned on in system preferences :) | |
| 19:14 | Joubu | work for me |
| 19:15 | oleonard | Thanks for checking Joubu |
| 19:15 | Joubu | ha no |
| 19:15 | it explodes if I add a recipent | |
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| 19:18 | Joubu | oleonard: outch, that is very wrong. Did you open a bug report yet? |
| 19:18 | oleonard | No |
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| 19:28 | Joubu | bug 19766 |
| 19:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19766 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Preview routing slip is broken |
| 19:35 | Joubu | patch attached |
| 19:37 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 19:38 | Freddy_Enrique | Heh.... |
| 19:40 | oleonard | Works for me Joubu, thanks |
| 19:41 | Joubu | This routine is very badly written :-/ |
| 19:43 | cait | routing code is pretty old |
| 19:43 | we have quite a few broken features in serials too | |
| 19:43 | there is a patch from biblibre about mulitple routing lists... that also fixed routing list holds | |
| 19:43 | but it got stuck somewhere :( | |
| 19:45 | Joubu | bug 7957 |
| 19:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Routing lists: manage several routing list for each subscription, and export them as CSV |
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| 19:47 | oleonard | As far as I can tell serial-issues.pl isn't used at all. I can't find any link to it. |
| 19:47 | cait | hm have you checked bugzilla? |
| 19:48 | hm thought i had seen a bug report coming ot the same conclusion | |
| 19:48 | but not finding it | |
| 19:48 | Joubu | oleonard: you should leave this area ASAP |
| 19:49 | oleonard | :) |
| 19:49 | * oleonard | looks for his hard hat |
| 19:49 | Joubu | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues-full.tt: <a class=" button serial" href="serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]&selectview=small">Compact view</a> |
| 19:49 | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues.tt: <a href="/cgi-bin/koha/serials/serial-issues.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]&selectview=full">Complete view</a> | |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Right, it only links to itself! |
| 19:49 | Joubu | the second one it not relevant |
| 19:50 | cait | have you tried accessing it? |
| 19:51 | Joubu | I think there is a trick to access it from the interface, but cannot find it with grep |
| 19:51 | oleonard | It seems to kind of work. It's like the OPAC version. But I think it duplicates what subscription-detail shows. |
| 19:53 | cait | i don't have subscriotions in this database |
| 19:53 | have to create data | |
| 19:54 | oleonard | Yeah that's the worst part about testing subscriptions :( |
| 19:54 | cait | heh |
| 19:54 | which parameter does it take? | |
| 19:54 | oleonard | biblionumber |
| 19:54 | wahanui | somebody said biblionumber was Koha's internal id number, its used by Koha, and shouldnt be used by humans for anything |
| 19:54 | cait | ah i see |
| 19:54 | biblionumber | |
| 19:54 | wahanui | i heard biblionumber was Koha's internal id number, its used by Koha, and shouldnt be used by humans for anything |
| 19:54 | Joubu | I always click "next" several times, like when you install something on windows |
| 19:54 | cait | i thin i'd file a bug to remove it |
| 19:54 | * Joubu | likes that |
| 19:56 | oleonard | Bug 19767 |
| 19:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19767 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , serial-issues.pl is unused and should be removed |
| 19:59 | Joubu | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/serial-issues-full.tt: <a href="opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]" class="button">Back to biblio</a> |
| 19:59 | it points to the opac page... | |
| 20:00 | oleonard | Time to go. See y'all later. |
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| 20:50 | mavhc | Hi, I'm looking at advising some schools in UK to switch to Koha as their current system is terrible, but they do like the kid friendly interface, is anyone working on interface improvements I can read about? |
| 20:51 | cait | hm I think some have creeated a more kid friendly look with the customizations options in Koha |
| 20:51 | using CSS | |
| 20:51 | wahanui | rumour has it using CSS is a bit better than jquery - will work even if people have javascript off |
| 20:51 | cait | you can also turn on/off a lot of the features in the OPAC |
| 20:51 | kidclamp | *cough* caboose *cough* ^ |
| 20:51 | cait | heh |
| 20:58 | mavhc | thanks, I'll check out the css options |
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| 21:45 | LeeJ | mavhc: hi! if you're able to catch caboose when he's on he can be a lot more helpful on the topic of kid-friendly OPACs :) |
| 21:45 | (as kidclamp referenced to) | |
| 21:50 | cait | /me waves at LeeJ |
| 21:51 | LeeJ | cait: hi!\ |
| 21:51 | * cait | waves |
| 21:52 | cait | ah better |
| 21:53 | LeeJ | :D |
| 21:55 | cait: I don't know where we should begin for the 18.05 kohadocs..how did you pick where to start? :P | |
| 21:56 | cait | i didn't really |
| 21:56 | ... just somewhere heh | |
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| 21:56 | cait | i wanted to do more of course |
| 21:59 | system prefs maybe? | |
| 22:00 | LeeJ | I like the idea lol |
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| 22:54 | LeeJ | bye #koha |
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