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06:41 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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06:56 | magnuse | ~~~ |
06:56 | josef_moravec | morning #koha |
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07:22 | cait | morning josef_moravec |
07:22 | thx for the qa :) | |
07:22 | josef_moravec | cait: you're welcome ;) |
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07:26 | marcelr | hi #koha |
07:27 | josef_moravec | mi marcelr |
07:27 | marcelr | o/ |
07:27 | josef_moravec | s/mi/hi/ ;) |
07:27 | you understand ;) | |
07:31 | * cait | waves at marcelr |
07:31 | cait | bbiab |
07:31 | marcelr | hi cait |
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07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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08:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:12 | wahanui | privet, gaetan_B |
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08:19 | fridolin | hi |
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08:20 | fridolin | who is freeeeezing like me ? -1°C this morning |
08:20 | ice on the car window and all | |
08:21 | what is next ? 1m snow ? | |
08:21 | :D | |
08:22 | oha | fridolin: we had ice on the walkways for several weeks now :( |
08:22 | josef_moravec | fridolin: me too ;) |
08:23 | the winter is comng... ) | |
08:27 | fridolin | walkways for whitewalkers .... |
08:30 | cait | we have a little bit of snow dusted over everything |
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09:07 | marcelr | fridolin: 17951 why not enabel TT cache under Plack? |
09:08 | fridolin | marcelr: we add issues, 2 ways of persistance is not good |
09:08 | cait | hm it's what we recommend atm |
09:08 | fridolin | cait: ATM ? |
09:08 | cait | if you look at the Koha information tab, it will complain if either is not active it hink |
09:09 | at the moment | |
09:09 | marcelr | fridolin: the persistance is not in the same area |
09:09 | one is the code, other is the template | |
09:10 | fridolin | marcelr: I know but we had some issues, TT should not be shared between Plack workers |
09:10 | there could be parts that are not the same | |
09:10 | I dont have explicit example | |
09:10 | marcelr | it might be interesting to add a report on that |
09:10 | fridolin | but with plack it is so much faster, we do not need TT cache |
09:11 | cait confirmed there can be issues | |
09:11 | marcelr | i didnt enable tt cache either, so i cant confirm issues |
09:11 | cait | no i didn't |
09:11 | fridolin | marcelr: yep but i dont know where to tell it |
09:11 | cait | ? |
09:11 | marcelr | and now i am not that motivated to enable it |
09:11 | cait | we have it active now |
09:11 | so far no issues | |
09:11 | but we haven't using it for long now | |
09:11 | fridolin | cait: ah but you dont recommand it ? |
09:12 | cait | i never said that - i said that using it is what Koha recommends |
09:12 | so if there are issues, we need to track them down and adjust what we tell users to do | |
09:12 | because Koha tells you to activate it and that's what we did | |
09:15 | marcelr | added a comment in that sense |
09:15 | fridolin | ah oki cait sorry |
09:16 | ok we will see if issues can be directly linked to it | |
09:16 | cait | sorry, it was confusing |
09:16 | fridolin | lets hope not |
09:16 | cait: btw what is ATM ? | |
09:19 | cait | atm = at the moment |
09:19 | I've got a SIP related question | |
09:19 | we see problems wehre the self checks print/show the wrong due dates | |
09:19 | when you change the calendar, the only thing that helps is a sip/plack/whatever restart | |
09:20 | is there any way around this? is this a known issue? | |
09:22 | fridolin | we are on testing ES Bug 19739 |
09:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19739 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add default ES configuration to koha-conf.xml |
09:22 | fridolin | cait: big pb indeed, we are just on it |
09:23 | all sysprefs are in this case | |
09:23 | cait | ah interesting |
09:23 | fridolin | we know that there is a Koha::Caches flush in plack.psgi |
09:23 | cait | do you know what's cuasing it yet? |
09:23 | fridolin | but is it all caches ? |
09:23 | calendar is the worst | |
09:23 | cait | i thought command line scripts were not using plack |
09:24 | fridolin | SIP is not a command line script |
09:24 | btw whe added a nighly restart of SIP server | |
09:24 | cait | yeah, that's what we plan to do now too |
09:24 | fridolin | it is realy adviced |
09:25 | for peristance and also memory leaks | |
09:25 | cait | fridolin: should I file a bug report? |
09:25 | fridolin | please yes |
09:25 | maybe there is already one | |
09:25 | cait | I think we never did the restart and it seemed fine on our installations so far -no memory leaks |
09:25 | fridolin | you have seen that with plack 2 workers, when changing a syspref |
09:25 | cait | but the configuration issue makes it necessary |
09:26 | yeah, but it seems better now with 16.11 | |
09:26 | and memcached | |
09:26 | wahanui | memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. |
09:26 | fridolin | you get the new value, refresh F5, you have the old one ? |
09:26 | cait | yep |
09:26 | i know that, it seems better now since we upgraded and turned on memcached | |
09:26 | fridolin | ah strange |
09:27 | cait | I think there is some basic caching gong on without memcached |
09:27 | and that doesn'tnotice when you change a pref | |
09:27 | fridolin | maybe defaut koha cache does not support flushing |
09:27 | cait | so far it has been much better with memcached and using 16.11 than before without on 3.22 |
09:27 | that's what we guessed | |
09:27 | fridolin | interesing |
09:34 | cait | bug 19740 |
09:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19740 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Self checks calculating wrong due dates / configuration changes go unnoticed |
10:03 | eythian | hi |
10:17 | cait | hi eythian |
10:17 | eythian | hello cait |
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10:33 | eythian | hoi marcelr |
10:34 | marcelr | hey eythian |
10:34 | wahanui | go back to bed, eythian |
10:34 | eythian | ahh, would that I could |
10:34 | marcelr | he just got out |
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11:18 | cait | someone familiar with EDIFACT around? |
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11:30 | kidclamp | khall is a good bet cait |
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12:37 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:39 | * kidclamp | waves |
12:44 | eythian | hi oleopard |
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13:01 | tcohen | morning#koha |
13:01 | LibraryClaire | hi tcohen, hi oleonard |
13:01 | tcohen | hi kidclamp, Joubu |
13:01 | hi LibraryClaire ! | |
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13:01 | eythian | LibraryClaire: *oleopard |
13:01 | sheesh! | |
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13:18 | * cait | waves |
13:22 | oleonard | Anyone else getting an error on circ/transferstoreceive.pl in master? |
13:23 | LibraryClaire | oleonard, I do if there is potentially something to receive (I think). Otherwise it just tells me no transfers |
13:23 | ie, after I changed branch I got Internal Server error | |
13:23 | oleonard | Thanks LibraryClaire |
13:24 | LibraryClaire | and a char encoding message in hte JS Console |
13:24 | oleonard | Monday log: Sanity Check #1 passed. |
13:24 | LibraryClaire | sanity is overrated |
13:24 | * LibraryClaire | grins |
13:25 | oleonard | LibraryClaire: I think the console error happens because the error page isn't well formed |
13:26 | LibraryClaire | gotcha |
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13:33 | eythian | It's like the apache message you sometimes see, along the lines of "your request was a 404, but I also got a 404 while trying to find the error page." |
13:36 | clrh | hellow |
13:38 | oleonard | Hi clrh! |
13:38 | clrh | :) |
13:39 | cait | hi clrh :) |
13:40 | oleonard: while you are testing internal server errors... could yo try to add a manual lost fee without barcode and see if you get one there (when trying to pay)? | |
13:40 | i had this yesterday on master, couldn't verify yet | |
13:42 | oleonard | My devbox is running like cold molasses today |
13:51 | cait | oleonard: you triggered a discussion about molasses here |
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13:51 | cait | it's that kind of monday |
13:52 | oleonard | I'm in the pro-molasses camp if anyone is keeping track. |
13:52 | LibraryClaire | molasses is treacle, or? |
13:52 | * tcohen | googles |
13:52 | oleonard | LibraryClaire: Yes |
13:52 | cait | now it's a global molasses discussion :P |
13:52 | LibraryClaire | I'm not a big fan |
13:52 | * LibraryClaire | gives away treacle pudding |
13:53 | oleonard | Never heard of that. But you must have it for gingerbread |
13:56 | LibraryClaire | aaah |
13:56 | tracle pudding is a steamed sticky pudding | |
13:56 | *teacle | |
13:56 | *treacle | |
13:56 | I approve of gingerbread | |
13:56 | oleonard | Americans aren't much for steamed sticky puddings in general |
13:56 | LibraryClaire | The English are |
13:57 | Joubu | hi #koha |
13:57 | cait | I'd like to try and find out:) |
13:57 | LibraryClaire | hi Joubu |
13:57 | cait | Joubu: what's your opinion on molasses? |
13:59 | Joubu | cait: no idea, I need to think about it! |
13:59 | cait | :D |
13:59 | trying to update https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]supported_by_Koha | |
13:59 | someone something to add? | |
14:01 | oleonard | I don't know if we have a quorum of Americans, but I want to know their position on the pumpkin pie vs. sweet potato pie divide. |
14:01 | LibraryClaire | I have never had either - are they sweet or savoury? |
14:01 | oleonard | Sweet |
14:01 | Joubu | cait: the wiki meeting pages are updated when I execute a script |
14:03 | I have just run it | |
14:03 | the next meeting date line was not formated as expected | |
14:03 | * oleonard | invites everyone to his house for a pie-testing session |
14:03 | kidclamp | fruit pies are better than those mush-pies oleonard |
14:03 | cait | oleonard: i'd really like help with taste testing :) also pecan pie |
14:04 | kidclamp | banoffee pie is amazing though |
14:04 | cait | Joubu: what's the exepcation? |
14:04 | kidclamp | molasses has its uses |
14:04 | * LibraryClaire | RSVPs to oleonard's pie party |
14:04 | cait | expectation |
14:04 | wahanui | somebody said expectation was that it's hidden - cait is not saying other use cases wouldn't make sense too |
14:04 | oleonard | cait: A chocolate pecan pie is one of my regular contributions to Thanksgiving |
14:04 | LibraryClaire | I love pecan anything |
14:05 | Joubu | cait: Bernardo told me that the po files for the manual are up-to-date on pootle |
14:05 | cait | cool |
14:05 | Joubu | which means it is translatable :) |
14:06 | mao: 4610 submissions | |
14:06 | cait | tcohen: can you help me update the rest api bit on the wiki? |
14:06 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "I get this error after checking out 17.05.x" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/97 |
14:07 | tcohen | cait: what do you need, specifically? |
14:07 | cait | Koha has an older REST API, but a newer more modern REST API is in development, several endpoints are already available.. See [[New REST API RFC]] for details. |
14:07 | sound good? | |
14:07 | Joubu | oleonard: yes, version of swagger differ between 17.11 and 17.05 |
14:07 | you should edit the psgi files, comment the "api" lines and restart plack | |
14:07 | cait | tcohen: updating the api and protocols website because i want to link to it |
14:07 | Joubu | (the rest api will not work) |
14:07 | tcohen | I'd say Koha has and older web API. A REST api is in development |
14:09 | oleonard | Joubu: The psgi files in /etc/koha? |
14:09 | cait | i think it was referring to the biblios api that is REST |
14:09 | tcohen | oleonard: just install libmojolicious-plugin-openapi-perl |
14:09 | cait | but changing, sounds good |
14:09 | is the wiki page the one we shoudl refer to? | |
14:09 | the rfc one? | |
14:10 | oleonard | tcohen: It is installed |
14:10 | tcohen | cait: I don't think is REST |
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14:11 | tcohen | (using POST to perform updates, but not important) |
14:11 | cait | nope, changed as you said first |
14:11 | tcohen | oleonard: I haven't read your question which Joubu is answering, sorry, out of context |
14:12 | * tcohen | just didn't think disabling the REST api would be ok |
14:12 | oleonard | Okay. Joubu's suggestion worked. |
14:16 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
14:19 | oleonard | having to switch between branches with file name case changes on a Windows machine is what will finally drive me over the edge |
14:21 | cait | heh |
14:27 | done - https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]supported_by_Koha | |
14:30 | tcohen | cait++ |
14:31 | cait | hope it's all good |
14:31 | added some things like epayment options and oauth | |
14:32 | Joubu | @later tell rangi can you generate the manual translated for the other languages please? |
14:32 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
14:32 | Joubu | @later tell rangi I'd like to add the links from the website |
14:32 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
14:32 | Joubu | @later tell rangi only en, fr and es work apparently |
14:32 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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14:37 | gaetan_B | hello |
14:37 | wahanui | hi, gaetan_B |
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14:40 | tcohen | hi gaetan_B |
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14:48 | Joubu | ready? |
14:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 17.12 - Panuku (start of a new dev cycle) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae74c222367495900> |
14:48 | cait | :) |
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15:13 | oleonard | Okay, I was going to try to git bisect the problem with transferstoreceive.pl but someone is going to catch fire, my computer or me. |
15:14 | I give up. | |
15:24 | Joubu | "the problem"? |
15:27 | oleonard | Joubu: In master I get "internal server error" when trying to access circ/transferstoreceive.pl |
15:28 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #301: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/301/ |
15:28 | Jonathan Druart: Koha 17.12 - Panuku (start of a new dev cycle) | |
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15:31 | Joubu | oleonard: it's the itemtype, it does not exist |
15:31 | (just a guessà | |
15:31 | à | |
15:31 | ) | |
15:35 | reiveune | bye |
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16:12 | charles | hi guys, i'm running the fines script on koha 16.11.12 and it shows me the following errors https://pastebin.com/a7Rn0MZw |
16:12 | kidclamp | oleonard++ |
16:13 | charles | koha has some scripts to review the structure of the database |
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16:56 | oleonard | Joubu: If you meant that there was a pending transfer item with an invalid itemtype, that doesn't seem to be the case. For what it's worth. |
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17:30 | oleonard | Bye all |
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17:40 | * LeeJ | waves |
17:40 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
17:52 | edveal | Hi LeeJ |
17:54 | LeeJ | heya edveal |
17:55 | edveal: thoughts on a taiga over the current framapad for a docs TODO? | |
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17:58 | edveal | None at the moment, I have just had a few minutes to look at the current framepad and don’t know a lot about taiga (never used it) |
18:01 | Joubu | oleonard: what is the error you got? |
18:01 | wahanui | somebody said the error you got was about wrong password comparison, try to find what strings are compared |
18:03 | Joubu | charles: did you report the bug? Does it happen on master too? |
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18:09 | * LeeJ | waves to caboose |
18:09 | caboose | hi LeeJ! |
18:09 | LeeJ | caboose: same question to you that I just asked edveal...thoughts on taiga over the current framapad for kohadocs TODO? (taiga is what was used for project management for the 17.11 release) |
18:10 | caboose | I like Tiaga |
18:10 | I'm more familiar with it :) | |
18:10 | LeeJ | then I'll make a Taiga for it and we can play around with it :) |
18:10 | edveal don't worry..it's pretty easy to get the hang of :) | |
18:11 | caboose | sweet |
18:11 | LeeJ++ | |
18:13 | LeeJ | caboose edveal https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]adocs-1805/kanban |
18:13 | caboose | sweetness |
18:13 | can we meet up some time this week..I'd like to get a good idea of our strategies :) | |
18:14 | LeeJ | same..I'm good pretty much any time outside of 10-11:30 AM EST |
18:15 | caboose | I'm good all day tomorrow except for 1-2...and all day thursday except 2-3 |
18:15 | LeeJ | edveal: judging from the WHOIS on your handle..am I correct you're UTC - 8? |
18:17 | apparently whois is very off...it says I'm in Quebec :P | |
18:17 | caboose | I'm UTC -5... |
18:17 | LeeJ | as am I |
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18:22 | LeeJ | caboose edveal I sent a taiga invitation link and made both of you fellow admins on the project |
18:22 | caboose | thanks LeeJ! |
18:25 | * LeeJ | waves to cait |
18:25 | cait | :) |
18:26 | LeeJ | cait: just an FYI...I thought we could try a taiga kanban for 18.05 docs this round...would you like to be added as a member? :) |
18:27 | even though you passed documentation off I thought I'd offer anyway :) | |
18:27 | cait | heh |
18:27 | what's the purpose? | |
18:27 | wahanui | the purpose is probably to add Invoice management. |
18:27 | cait | coordinate work? |
18:28 | LeeJ | cait: that and also to hopefully somewhat structure documentation progress |
18:28 | cait | sounds good |
18:28 | LeeJ | since for 17.11 we had "assigned" documentation parts I think it makes sense |
18:28 | cait | maybe keep the framapad and move from there to kanban for those who are not members |
18:29 | LeeJ | exactly |
18:29 | cait | assigned? |
18:29 | LeeJ | like we would mark our name next to documentation that needed to be done |
18:29 | cait | i'd like to peek, if i am welcome :) |
18:29 | LeeJ | of course you are! It's rather bare but still :) |
18:30 | cait: it's bare because I just created it 5 minutes ago | |
18:31 | cait | hm let me chck which email i use for taiga |
18:31 | ah the browser remembered :) | |
18:45 | edveal | LeeJ got your Taiga invite, So it is like Slack? |
18:45 | LeeJ | edveal: very similar |
18:46 | edveal: are you familiar with the concept of kanban? | |
18:47 | edveal | Oh yes... |
18:48 | LeeJ | well taiga functions as a kanban board |
18:48 | tcohen | Slack is for messaging |
18:48 | LeeJ | I'm working on a basic informational wiki right now as well as adding the "big tasks" under Epics |
18:49 | edveal | Ah so it is more like Toggle |
18:49 | LeeJ | big tasks basically meaning things like doing another scour to make sure we have all previously-merged features, etc. included |
18:49 | edveal along those lines | |
18:53 | Joubu | LeeJ: why do not you use the existing kanban? |
18:56 | edveal | Time to go to the reference desk. bbiab |
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19:09 | LeeJ | Joubu: didn't think about it honestly |
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19:10 | Joubu | LeeJ: we already have lot of guys on the existing board, but not much activity |
19:11 | I'd would make sense to me to use it for everything koha related (when a kanban board is needed) | |
19:11 | the filters will permit to only display the koha manual cards | |
19:11 | (it's just a suggestion ;)) | |
19:13 | LeeJ | I'll talk with the other two when they're on again :P |
19:17 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard what is the error you got? |
19:17 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
19:17 | oleonard | I'm here Joubu |
19:18 | Joubu | oleonard: what is the error you got with the transferstoreceive.pl script? |
19:20 | oleonard | Joubu I'm on a different machine now and can't reproduce it. LibraryClaire said she got the error too so I guess she and I should compare notes. |
19:23 | Joubu | oleonard: I recreated a 500 (method description called on undefined value) when the item was using an itemtype that was not defined in the system |
19:23 | oleonard: let me know the exact error when you can | |
19:23 | oleonard | I will Joubu, thanks |
19:23 | tcohen | bye #koha |
19:34 | Joubu | LeeJ: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/s[…]programscreenshot |
19:35 | LeeJ | Joubu: :O |
19:35 | * LeeJ | instantly bookmarks |
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19:50 | Joubu | @later tell rangi found them on translate.k-c.org! Do not now if it is expected |
19:50 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
19:50 | cait | :) |
19:54 | Joubu | https://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
19:54 | that rocks, right? | |
19:55 | wizzyrea | it's pretty good :) |
19:56 | Joubu | imagine with epub and pdf! ;) |
19:56 | LeeJ | Joubu: it's...so beautiful :') |
20:00 | cait: am I correct that only the 'NEW' status is used for Documentation bugs currently when searching for open documentation bug reports? | |
20:03 | cait | LeeJ: i think noone adopted one yet |
20:03 | NEW means filed but noone took it | |
20:03 | LeeJ | great :) |
20:05 | cait | Joubu: ebub and pdf would be nice |
20:05 | but tedious to do manually, need an automated workflow then :) | |
20:05 | Joubu | cait: yes, automatically of course |
20:10 | translated screenshots for the manual: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lated_screenshots | |
20:11 | cait | :) |
20:11 | so we put all images in the same directory? | |
20:11 | but i guess sorting them you could easily see which ones are missing | |
20:15 | Joubu | it's the default, we can change that if needed |
20:15 | as you said it's not that bad, we will see easily what is missing (and catch typo) | |
20:22 | cait | Joubu: worth mentioning in your next newsletter :) |
20:23 | Joubu | yep |
20:39 | @later tell rangi openhub has the "new dev" info indeed, but the last update for the Koha project was 9 month ago... | |
20:39 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
20:41 | cait | :) |
20:42 | lots of things going on tonight | |
20:42 | LeeJ | indeed! |
21:14 | Joubu: obviously it's nowhere near top priority but I know you've done some work with the Help files..what do you think about this docs bug I just noticed? Bug 11115 | |
21:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11115 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, NEW , Pull help files from the manual |
21:18 | cait | LeeJ: we had discussed it at an irc meeting |
21:18 | it was on my todo list to ask on the mailing list if linking to the manual instead of included help files would be ok | |
21:19 | with an option to link to a local copy if a library wants it (url preference or similar) | |
21:19 | after translations were sorted out | |
21:19 | LeeJ | cait: okay...I'll have to look back in the meeting minutes when I get chance then :) |
21:20 | cait | it was some time ago - took a while with the translations :( |
21:21 | LeeJ | cait: no worries! I'll find it eventually :) |
21:21 | well I think that's enough for one day..have a good night #koha | |
21:22 | cait | have a nice evening LeeJ |
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21:57 | Joubu | @later tell LeeJ bug 11115 is a priority for me |
21:57 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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22:29 | Joubu | @later tell rangi I contacted openhub guys and they updated the project's info! |
22:29 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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