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| 06:49 | fridolin | hi |
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| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:38 | cait | hello gaetan_B |
| 08:42 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:43 | * cait | waves |
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| 08:54 | gaetan_B | i have a marc21 question : when *not* using easyanalyticals, if i click "add child record" from the "new" button on a record, field 773 will be pre-filled with information from the "mother" record |
| 08:54 | but subfield 0 "host biblionumber" is empty | |
| 08:54 | is it normal behaviour ? I would expect the link to be done | |
| 08:55 | (it is the case in unimarc, but we don't really use easyanalyticals) | |
| 09:02 | cait | it's from 001 |
| 09:02 | it's not the biblionumber | |
| 09:02 | if you have 001 that is used for linking, if not it will create a text link | |
| 09:02 | that's MARC21 standard behaviour | |
| 09:03 | and 001 is not filled by default in MARC21, unless you downloaded the record from somewhere | |
| 09:03 | we have a plugin similar to stocknumberAV.pl to set it with a number | |
| 09:10 | gaetan_B | hmmm |
| 09:10 | that does make a pretty solid case for putting the biblionumber in 001 if you ask me then ;) | |
| 09:11 | at least that is the solution i am looking for right here | |
| 09:11 | thanks cait! | |
| 09:11 | cait | i would not recommend changing the configuration for marc21 |
| 09:11 | gaetan_B | i have done it for a number of libraries for which it was a requirement |
| 09:12 | cait | hm |
| 09:12 | but you'll have to adapt indexing etc then too | |
| 09:12 | gaetan_B | yep, indeed |
| 09:13 | appart from marc mapping and the relevant zebra indexes, i don't think there's anything else, and it worked as expected | |
| 09:15 | cait | good to know |
| 09:15 | we don't do that because our 001 comes from the unionc atalog | |
| 09:15 | and the $0 too - so the data is linked when importing | |
| 09:16 | if you work with an external source like that, it's better this way and bibionumber not in 001 | |
| 09:16 | gaetan_B | ah,just checked there are actually 3 things that need to be changed : |
| 09:16 | the marc mapping, the koha indexes, and the xslt for result pages | |
| 09:16 | cait | yeah, we wouldn't want to do that - one version for all our libraries :) |
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| 09:22 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 09:29 | magnuse | one koha to rule them all! |
| 09:34 | cait | it saves you a lot of headache |
| 09:35 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:29 | BobB | hi #koha |
| 10:29 | what's the best source of user documentation for the Koha API? | |
| 10:30 | is there anything other than this: | |
| 10:30 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Rest_Api_HowTo | |
| 10:33 | cait | hi BobB |
| 10:33 | BobB | hi cait :) |
| 10:33 | cait | there is also https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Guidelines_-_API |
| 10:33 | what are you looking for? | |
| 10:34 | there is not a lot in master yet, I think you can see here what exists http://git.koha-community.org/[…]839dadc488428e52a | |
| 10:34 | BobB | an identity provider wants to work on auto-provisioning of patron data |
| 10:34 | to push new patrons and updates into koha | |
| 10:35 | cait | i am not sure if you can already create users |
| 10:35 | it looks like there is only list and get | |
| 10:35 | tcohen would be the best person to talk to, maybe email him? | |
| 10:37 | BobB | ok, and i'll look for him tomorrow |
| 10:37 | cait | i might be misreading, best to check with him |
| 10:37 | BobB | thank you |
| 10:38 | magnuse | there is bug 16330 |
| 10:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, In Discussion , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons |
| 10:38 | magnuse | BobB ^ |
| 10:40 | BobB | hi magnuse |
| 10:40 | I saw that one, it doesn't seem to be going forward | |
| 10:41 | magnuse | no, stuck for a long time |
| 10:41 | it's... interesting how little we have added to the new rest api | |
| 10:41 | BobB | when its needed it'll get added :) |
| 10:42 | magnuse | i thought it was needed yesterday ;-) |
| 10:43 | cait | i think the problem is that a lot of basic questions came up implementing the endpoints |
| 10:43 | like how to handle permissions etc | |
| 10:43 | so things got stuck for the architecture work | |
| 10:44 | BobB | which probably needs blocks of time that nobody has |
| 10:44 | magnuse | yeah, true |
| 10:44 | tcohen has been fixing things like that, i think | |
| 10:45 | cait | yep |
| 10:45 | but he needs help testing etc of course | |
| 10:45 | BobB | maybe we can help there, I'll check with him |
| 10:46 | so much to do (: | |
| 10:46 | magnuse | there was also a move from swagger to something else. openapi? |
| 10:47 | BobB | ooh, that could be big |
| 10:47 | magnuse | not sure if that means all the patches that have been written for the new rest api needs to be rewritten? |
| 10:47 | cait | i think that might have been more a change in the name |
| 10:47 | but not sure | |
| 10:47 | BobB | ok |
| 10:48 | magnuse | bug 18137 |
| 10:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, RESOLVED FIXED, REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI |
| 10:50 | magnuse | the ill module bug got a patch to move from swagger to openapi, but it looks like that patch also fixed some other things: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]68564&action=diff |
| 10:50 | so i'm not sure if the size is indicative of the work needed to move patches from swagger to openapi | |
| 10:50 | BobB | hmm, we're some way from deploying 17.11 |
| 10:51 | I might be going off too early on this one | |
| 10:51 | anyway, will chat with tcohen and see if we can help | |
| 10:51 | magnuse | BobB++ |
| 10:51 | BobB | thanks both, late here, I'll pack up for now |
| 10:52 | cait | good night BobB :) |
| 10:52 | BobB | :) |
| 10:53 | magnuse | have fun BobB |
| 10:57 | lari | the move from swagger to openapi for old patches is trivial but there is still work being done on our REST API architecture |
| 10:59 | cait | hey lari :) |
| 11:01 | lari | hi cait! :) |
| 11:04 | cait | hope we will see some pogress on the rest api - i think the patrons one would be great to have |
| 11:04 | lots of use cases for that | |
| 11:04 | hi khall! | |
| 11:04 | right, lunch time, bbiab | |
| 11:06 | magnuse | lari: maybe explain on the wiki what needs to be done to update patches from swagger to openapi? |
| 11:06 | hiya khall | |
| 11:09 | khall | mornin cait! |
| 11:09 | mornin magnuse! | |
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| 12:43 | magnuse | W: Failed to fetch https://apt.abunchofthings.net[…]ry-amd64/Packages gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS fatal alert has been received. drojf[m]? |
| 12:45 | ah, switching from https to http fixed it | |
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| 13:30 | eythian | hi |
| 13:40 | fridolin | cait: hie dear RMaint |
| 13:42 | i've pused a few major bugs | |
| 13:42 | i think i will not do more before release | |
| 13:42 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:42 | Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #46: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/46/ | |
| 13:42 | techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons | |
| 13:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username |
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| 14:18 | oleonard | If y'all were here with me I'd say GOOD MORNING |
| 14:22 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #47: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/47/ |
| 14:22 | * kyle: Bug 19495: Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on | |
| 14:22 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out | |
| 14:22 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t | |
| 14:22 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values | |
| 14:22 | * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not | |
| 14:22 | * arouss1980: Bug 19503: Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield | |
| 14:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on 'biblioitems' and 'marcxml' |
| 14:22 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out | |
| 14:22 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting | |
| 14:22 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19503 major, P5 - low, ---, arouss1980, Pushed to Stable , Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield tag | |
| 14:26 | cait | fridolin: thx for letting me know, dear RMaint :) |
| 14:28 | magnuse | cait++ fridolin++ |
| 14:29 | fridolin | its a pleasure :-[ |
| 14:29 | some bugs are realy dirtyyyy | |
| 14:29 | * oleonard | blushes |
| 14:33 | cait | @seen drojf[m] |
| 14:33 | huginn | cait: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. |
| 14:34 | eythian | I suspect it dislikes the [] |
| 14:34 | cait | yeah |
| 14:34 | not helpful | |
| 14:34 | eythian | maybe try '/lastlog drojf[m]' in your client |
| 14:35 | cait | unknown |
| 14:35 | eythian | ah, some clients do it, some don't |
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| 15:04 | oleonard | Every time I try to upload quotes I get an error message. "Uploads limited to csv. Incorrect filetype: unknown" |
| 15:04 | I swear I'm trying to upload a csv | |
| 15:05 | Anyone know what's up with that? | |
| 15:18 | kidclamp | what's the mimetype on your file? |
| 15:19 | csv from excel can get funny | |
| 15:22 | oleonard | I'm editing it as plain text |
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| 15:30 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:31 | gaetan_B | cait: well after changing the whole setup and migrating the data anew, it turns out the host biblionumber still doesn't go into 773$0 when using "add child record", it does go into 773$w though... |
| 15:31 | so i can build my xslts around this to get the links to work | |
| 15:32 | but, since the hostbiblionumber is in the url when using add child record, i would think it should go into $0, regardless of whether it is stored in 001 or 999 actually | |
| 15:32 | annalytical records have always been a wrong idea though... | |
| 15:34 | eythian | oleonard: see how it detects filetypes. Perhaps there's a BOM in your file that's upsetting it or something. |
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| 15:49 | cait | gaetan_B: that's correct - $w is for linking records |
| 15:49 | $0 is for linking authorities and bibliographic records | |
| 15:49 | gaetan_B | oh |
| 15:50 | cait | $w = record control number in MARC21 |
| 15:50 | gaetan_B | but when using easyanalyticals, the host itemnumber goes in $9 and the host biblionumber in $0 |
| 15:50 | cait | and your xslt shoudl work if you turn easy analytics off and UseControlNumber on |
| 15:50 | yes | |
| 15:50 | because that's wrong | |
| 15:50 | gaetan_B | that's an explanation :) |
| 15:51 | cait | i don't like EasyAnalytics, it's no secret :) |
| 15:51 | oleonard | Well... If anyone could try to upload a CSV of quotes I'd love to know if it works for them. |
| 15:51 | gaetan_B | i don't like either cait :) in fact i don't like analytics |
| 15:52 | cait | $9 is custom, so that's kind of not wrong |
| 15:52 | gaetan_B | oleonard: sorry i don't like quote of the day either |
| 15:52 | or $9 | |
| 15:52 | cait | you are very negative today gaetan_B :) |
| 15:52 | gaetan_B | just kidding ;) |
| 15:52 | cait | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd773.html |
| 15:52 | $0 doesn't exist | |
| 15:53 | gaetan_B | the whole $9/$0 thing made us really confused when trying to get easyanalyticals to work with unimarc |
| 15:53 | cait | i understand |
| 15:53 | gaetan_B | because in the unimarc setup $9 always has the biblionumber of the record we're linking to |
| 15:53 | cait | the problem is mixing up item information into the record |
| 15:53 | gaetan_B | so it made it inconsistent |
| 15:53 | cait | it makes me uneasy |
| 15:53 | gaetan_B | anyway |
| 15:54 | cait | makes sense, in MARC21 we use $w for that |
| 15:54 | i think unimarc supported id linking when marc21 did not yet, something like that? | |
| 15:54 | gaetan_B | i've got a solution to my issue thanks to cait |
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| 15:54 | gaetan_B | probably |
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| 15:55 | jbeno | morning |
| 15:56 | cait | gaetan_B: there is information on the wiki that is quite good |
| 15:56 | for the linking things in marc21 | |
| 15:59 | caboose | morning! |
| 16:02 | cait | hi caboose |
| 16:03 | caboose | :) |
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| 18:45 | greenjimll | cait: Does the documentation IRC meeting on 23rd Nov need to go onto the Koha calendar? I can't see it on there? |
| 18:45 | cait | hm i don't know how to do it |
| 18:46 | we might postpone it, maybe wait a bit more - turns out I scheudled it on thanksgiving | |
| 18:54 | oleonard | cait how could you? |
| 18:54 | I've memorized every holiday from every country in the world to prevent this kind of faux pas | |
| 19:02 | cait | :) |
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| 19:12 | cait | oleonard++ lots of patch writing |
| 19:12 | oleonard | I could use a Catalyst Academy for some signoffs. |
| 19:16 | cait | i think they just started looking for applications |
| 19:17 | maybe a gbsd? | |
| 19:18 | oleonard | At first I thought you said "Maybe a ghost?" |
| 19:18 | cait | if we find one that we can bind to the dashboard somehow... |
| 19:19 | ibeardslee | we have 31 applications |
| 19:19 | cait | good number? |
| 19:19 | when does it start? :) | |
| 19:20 | ibeardslee | we need to trim it down to 20. It is the 8th to 19th of Jan, the 'project week' is 16th to 19th. |
| 19:21 | oleonard | I can't wait that long! I'm gonna have to go with getting signoffs from a ghost. |
| 19:21 | cait | :) |
| 19:22 | ibeardslee: we like Catalyst Academy :) | |
| 19:24 | ibeardslee | we like Koha |
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| 19:55 | oleonard | Bye all |
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| 21:50 | jenkins | Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #83: FAILURE in 7 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/83/ |
| 21:50 | * techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons | |
| 21:50 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out | |
| 21:50 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t | |
| 21:50 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values | |
| 21:50 | * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not | |
| 21:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username |
| 21:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out | |
| 21:50 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting | |
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| 23:51 | BobB | tcohen about? |
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