IRC log for #koha, 2017-11-20

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08:31 gaetan_B hello
08:38 cait hello gaetan_B
08:42 * magnuse waves
08:43 * cait waves
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08:54 gaetan_B i have a marc21 question : when *not* using easyanalyticals, if i click "add child record" from the "new" button on a record, field 773 will be pre-filled with information from the "mother" record
08:54 but subfield 0 "host biblionumber" is empty
08:54 is it normal behaviour ? I would expect the link to be done
08:55 (it is the case in unimarc, but we don't really use easyanalyticals)
09:02 cait it's from 001
09:02 it's not the biblionumber
09:02 if you have 001 that is used for linking, if not it will create a text link
09:02 that's MARC21 standard behaviour
09:03 and 001 is not filled by default in MARC21, unless you downloaded the record from somewhere
09:03 we have a plugin similar to stocknumberAV.pl to set it with a number
09:10 gaetan_B hmmm
09:10 that does make a pretty solid case for putting the biblionumber in 001 if you ask me then ;)
09:11 at least that is the solution i am looking for right here
09:11 thanks cait!
09:11 cait i would not recommend changing the configuration for marc21
09:11 gaetan_B i have done it for a number of libraries for which it was a requirement
09:12 cait hm
09:12 but you'll have to adapt indexing etc then too
09:12 gaetan_B yep, indeed
09:13 appart from marc mapping and the relevant zebra indexes, i don't think there's anything else, and it worked as expected
09:15 cait good to know
09:15 we don't do that because our 001 comes from the unionc atalog
09:15 and the $0 too - so the data is linked when importing
09:16 if you work with an external source like that, it's better this way and bibionumber not in 001
09:16 gaetan_B ah,just checked  there are actually 3 things that need to be changed :
09:16 the marc mapping, the koha indexes, and the xslt for result pages
09:16 cait yeah, we wouldn't want to do that - one version for all our libraries :)
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09:22 alex_a bonjour
09:29 magnuse one koha to rule them all!
09:34 cait it saves you a lot of headache
09:35 magnuse yup
10:29 BobB hi #koha
10:29 what's the best source of user documentation for the Koha API?
10:30 is there anything other than this:
10:30 https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Rest_Api_HowTo
10:33 cait hi BobB
10:33 BobB hi cait :)
10:33 cait there is also https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Guidelines_-_API
10:33 what are you looking for?
10:34 there is not a lot in master yet, I think you can see here what exists http://git.koha-community.org/[…]839dadc488428e52a
10:34 BobB an identity provider wants to work on auto-provisioning of patron data
10:34 to push new patrons and updates into koha
10:35 cait i am not sure if you can already create users
10:35 it looks like there is only list and get
10:35 tcohen would be the best person to talk to, maybe email him?
10:37 BobB ok, and i'll look for him tomorrow
10:37 cait i might be misreading, best to check with him
10:37 BobB thank you
10:38 magnuse there is bug 16330
10:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16330 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, benjamin.rokseth, In Discussion , REST API: add routes to add, update and delete patrons
10:38 magnuse BobB ^
10:40 BobB hi magnuse
10:40 I saw that one, it doesn't seem to be going forward
10:41 magnuse no, stuck for a long time
10:41 it's... interesting how little we have added to the new rest api
10:41 BobB when its needed it'll get added :)
10:42 magnuse i thought it was needed yesterday ;-)
10:43 cait i think the problem is that a lot of basic questions came up implementing the endpoints
10:43 like how to handle permissions etc
10:43 so things got stuck for the architecture work
10:44 BobB which probably needs blocks of time that nobody has
10:44 magnuse yeah, true
10:44 tcohen has been fixing things like that, i think
10:45 cait yep
10:45 but he needs help testing etc of course
10:45 BobB maybe we can help there, I'll check with him
10:46 so much to do (:
10:46 magnuse there was also a move from swagger to something else. openapi?
10:47 BobB ooh, that could be big
10:47 magnuse not sure if that means all the patches that have been written for the new rest api needs to be rewritten?
10:47 cait i think that might have been more a change in the name
10:47 but not sure
10:47 BobB ok
10:48 magnuse bug 18137
10:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18137 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, RESOLVED FIXED, REST API: Migrate from Mojolicious::Plugin::Swagger2 to Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI
10:50 magnuse the ill module bug got a patch to move from swagger to openapi, but it looks like that patch also fixed some other things: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]68564&action=diff
10:50 so i'm not sure if the size is indicative of the work needed to move patches from swagger to openapi
10:50 BobB hmm, we're some way from deploying 17.11
10:51 I might be going off too early on this one
10:51 anyway, will chat with tcohen and see if we can help
10:51 magnuse BobB++
10:51 BobB thanks both, late here, I'll pack up for now
10:52 cait good night BobB :)
10:52 BobB :)
10:53 magnuse have fun BobB
10:57 lari the move from swagger to openapi for old patches is trivial but there is still work being done on our REST API architecture
10:59 cait hey lari :)
11:01 lari hi cait! :)
11:04 cait hope we will see some pogress on the rest api - i think the patrons one would be great to have
11:04 lots of use cases for that
11:04 hi khall!
11:04 right, lunch time, bbiab
11:06 magnuse lari: maybe explain on the wiki what needs to be done to update patches from swagger to openapi?
11:06 hiya khall
11:09 khall mornin cait!
11:09 mornin magnuse!
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12:43 magnuse W: Failed to fetch https://apt.abunchofthings.net[…]ry-amd64/Packages  gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS fatal alert has been received. drojf[m]?
12:45 ah, switching from https to http fixed it
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13:30 eythian hi
13:40 fridolin cait: hie dear RMaint
13:42 i've pused a few major bugs
13:42 i think i will not do more before release
13:42 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:42 Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #46: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/46/
13:42 techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons
13:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
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14:18 oleonard If y'all were here with me I'd say GOOD MORNING
14:22 jenkins Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #47: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/47/
14:22 * kyle: Bug 19495: Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on
14:22 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out
14:22 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t
14:22 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values
14:22 * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not
14:22 * arouss1980: Bug 19503: Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19495 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Automatic report conversion needs to do global replace on 'biblioitems' and 'marcxml'
14:22 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out
14:22 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting
14:22 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19503 major, P5 - low, ---, arouss1980, Pushed to Stable , Duplicating a dropdown menu subfield yields an empty subfield tag
14:26 cait fridolin: thx for letting me know, dear RMaint :)
14:28 magnuse cait++ fridolin++
14:29 fridolin its a pleasure :-[
14:29 some bugs are realy dirtyyyy
14:29 * oleonard blushes
14:33 cait @seen drojf[m]
14:33 huginn cait: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
14:34 eythian I suspect it dislikes the []
14:34 cait yeah
14:34 not helpful
14:34 eythian maybe try '/lastlog drojf[m]' in your client
14:35 cait unknown
14:35 eythian ah, some clients do it, some don't
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15:04 oleonard Every time I try to upload quotes I get an error message. "Uploads limited to csv. Incorrect filetype: unknown"
15:04 I swear I'm trying to upload a csv
15:05 Anyone know what's up with that?
15:18 kidclamp what's the mimetype on your file?
15:19 csv from excel can get funny
15:22 oleonard I'm editing it as plain text
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15:30 reiveune bye
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15:31 gaetan_B cait: well after changing the whole setup and migrating the data anew, it turns out the host biblionumber still doesn't go into 773$0 when using "add child record", it does go into 773$w though...
15:31 so i can build my xslts around this to get the links to work
15:32 but, since the hostbiblionumber is in the url when using add child record, i would think it should go into $0, regardless of whether it is stored in 001 or 999 actually
15:32 annalytical records have always been a wrong idea though...
15:34 eythian oleonard: see how it detects filetypes. Perhaps there's a BOM in your file that's upsetting it or something.
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15:49 cait gaetan_B: that's correct - $w is for linking records
15:49 $0 is for linking authorities and bibliographic records
15:49 gaetan_B oh
15:50 cait $w = record control number in  MARC21
15:50 gaetan_B but when using easyanalyticals, the host itemnumber goes in $9 and the host biblionumber in $0
15:50 cait and your xslt shoudl work if you turn easy analytics off and UseControlNumber on
15:50 yes
15:50 because that's wrong
15:50 gaetan_B that's an explanation :)
15:51 cait i don't like EasyAnalytics, it's no secret :)
15:51 oleonard Well... If anyone could try to upload a CSV of quotes I'd love to know if it works for them.
15:51 gaetan_B i don't like either cait :) in fact i don't like analytics
15:52 cait $9 is custom, so that's kind of not wrong
15:52 gaetan_B oleonard: sorry i don't like quote of the day either
15:52 or $9
15:52 cait you are very negative today gaetan_B :)
15:52 gaetan_B just kidding ;)
15:52 cait http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd773.html
15:52 $0 doesn't exist
15:53 gaetan_B the whole $9/$0 thing made us really confused when trying to get easyanalyticals to work with unimarc
15:53 cait i understand
15:53 gaetan_B because in the unimarc setup $9 always has the biblionumber of the record we're linking to
15:53 cait the problem is mixing up item information into the record
15:53 gaetan_B so it made it inconsistent
15:53 cait it makes me uneasy
15:53 gaetan_B anyway
15:54 cait makes sense, in MARC21 we use $w for that
15:54 i think unimarc supported id linking when marc21 did not yet, something like that?
15:54 gaetan_B i've got a solution to my issue thanks to cait
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15:54 gaetan_B probably
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15:55 jbeno morning
15:56 cait gaetan_B: there is information on the wiki that is quite good
15:56 for the linking things in marc21
15:59 caboose morning!
16:02 cait hi caboose
16:03 caboose :)
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18:45 greenjimll cait: Does the documentation IRC meeting on 23rd Nov need to go onto the Koha calendar? I can't see it on there?
18:45 cait hm i don't know how to do it
18:46 we might postpone it, maybe wait a bit more - turns out I scheudled it on thanksgiving
18:54 oleonard cait how could you?
18:54 I've memorized every holiday from every country in the world to prevent this kind of faux pas
19:02 cait :)
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19:12 cait oleonard++ lots of patch writing
19:12 oleonard I could use a Catalyst Academy for some signoffs.
19:16 cait i think they just started looking for applications
19:17 maybe a gbsd?
19:18 oleonard At first I thought you said "Maybe a ghost?"
19:18 cait if we find one that we can bind to the dashboard somehow...
19:19 ibeardslee we have 31 applications
19:19 cait good number?
19:19 when does it start? :)
19:20 ibeardslee we need to trim it down to 20. It is the 8th to 19th of Jan, the 'project week' is 16th to 19th.
19:21 oleonard I can't wait that long! I'm gonna have to go with getting signoffs from a ghost.
19:21 cait :)
19:22 ibeardslee: we like Catalyst Academy :)
19:24 ibeardslee we like Koha
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19:55 oleonard Bye all
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21:50 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #83: FAILURE in 7 min 54 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/83/
21:50 * techservspec: Bug 18616 - The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons
21:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Do not return an item if not checked out
21:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Fix MarkIssueReturned.t
21:50 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19487: Refetch the object to get up-to-date values
21:50 * dcook: Bug 18884: Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not
21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , The "Add forgot password link to OPAC" should allow patrons to use their library card number in addition to username
21:50 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19487 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Internal server error when writing off lost fine for item not checked out
21:50 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting
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23:51 BobB tcohen about?

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