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08:32 | * magnuse | waves |
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08:42 | magnuse | after upgradring a koha instance from 3.22 to 17.05.05 i am getting errors like this from some cronjobs: Can't locate Koha/Exceptions/Exception.pm: ./Koha/Exceptions/Exception.pm: Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.22/base.pm line 97. |
08:42 | anyon else seeing that? | |
08:42 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Full error" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73 |
08:45 | magnuse | also upgraded from ubuntu 14 to 16 |
08:46 | running it from "sudo crontab" gives that error. running the command from the crontab, with sudo, works fine | |
08:51 | cait | within koha-shell? |
08:52 | magnuse | yes |
08:52 | well, koha-shell -c | |
08:53 | maybe the c is not doing what i think it should do any longer? | |
08:53 | sudo koha-shell -c "echo $PERL5LIB" <instance> | |
08:53 | ^ that does not give any output | |
08:54 | but "sudo koha-shell <instance>" and then "echo $PERL5LIB" does | |
09:00 | sounds like it might be bug 18502, but that should be fixed | |
09:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18502 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-shell broken on dev installs |
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09:09 | magnuse | ah, this works: sudo koha-shell -c "echo \$KOHA_CONF" alingsas |
09:12 | andreashm | magnuse: trouble with upgrading to 17.05? |
09:13 | magnuse | at least the problem showed up after the upgrade |
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09:20 | andreashm | hope you get it sorted! |
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11:17 | magnuse | hm, the actual error is "Can't locate Koha/Exceptions/Exception.pm" and right enough, there is no Koha/Exceptions/Exception.pm in Koha |
11:18 | there is Koha/Exceptions.pm, which has 'Koha::Exceptions::Exception' => { description => 'Something went wrong!', }, | |
11:18 | but why should Koha::Exceptions::Exception be turned into a file path when running from cron and not when run from the cli? | |
11:38 | eythian | hi |
11:41 | magnuse | ah, i knew i had seen something like this before: bug 17717 |
11:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17717 critical, P4, ---, chris, REOPENED , process_message_queue.pl: Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/Failure.pm |
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12:38 | oleonard | Hi all |
12:40 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
12:40 | oleonard | Hi LibraryClaire, is it winter there yet? |
12:40 | LibraryClaire | feels like, I had to get my winter hat out this morning and my fingerless gloves are no longer any good for biking to work :( |
12:41 | ...wish I knew where my normal gloves are | |
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12:44 | eythian | yeah, my bike is in getting new tyres because I wasn't confident that my current ones would suit the damp conditions here this winter. |
12:44 | @wunder ams | |
12:44 | huginn | eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
12:44 | eythian | still dead :< |
12:45 | oleonard | Has anyone discovered why? |
12:45 | eythian | not afaik |
12:45 | probably an api changed | |
12:53 | skimsk | hi all! I have troubles importing records with items from marc-file. I have about 20k books with barcodes already saved in one marc-file. How can i tell koha to use the barcode from marc-record, instead of leaving it empty? i tried using MarcItemFieldsToOrder setting from Acquisitions preferences, but it doesnt support "barcode" field.. :/ |
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12:55 | * LeeJ | waves |
12:55 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
12:57 | oleonard | skimsk: Where is the barcode and other item information stored in the MARC file? What tag? |
12:58 | skimsk: Koha expects item information in a 952 tag | |
13:01 | skimsk | in my original file its in 950 d. What subfield it can be in if i try moving it to 952? |
13:04 | oleonard | 925$p. If you go in the Koha staff client to Administration -> Koha MARC mapping, and choose "items" you can see how it's set up |
13:05 | skimsk: I never mess with the default Koha to MARC mapping, so I don't know if there are potential problems to changing those mappings | |
13:05 | ...so I'd modify your MARC file rather than changing Koha. | |
13:08 | skimsk | oleonard: You are my hero! i have missed the "items" from dropdown menu and searched from everywhere else! Huge thanks! |
13:09 | oleonard | You're welcome! |
13:09 | kidclamp | oleonard++ |
13:10 | skimsk | we are upgrading from another software to koha and it would be nice to keep the file structure same. But now im back in track again! |
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13:32 | LeeJ | koha++ |
13:36 | raise your hand if you hate Firefox Quantum | |
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13:37 | * LeeJ | raises hand very very high |
13:37 | LibraryClaire | I haven't seen it yet |
13:37 | skimsk | never heard of |
13:37 | LeeJ | LibraryClaire skimsk it just came out last night/yesterday (depending on timezone ;) ) |
13:37 | from my understanding, it disables Javascript by default | |
13:38 | LibraryClaire | yeah, we don't have it at work and I haven't updated my home computers yet :D |
13:38 | skimsk | sounds stupid.. |
13:38 | ...disabling javascript | |
13:38 | LeeJ | right?! |
13:38 | it's probably "we'll strong-arm people into being forced to use HTML5 for everything!" | |
13:39 | skimsk | disabling flash wouldnt hurt but js.. |
13:40 | LeeJ | Firefox and Chrome already disable flash by default |
13:40 | oleonard | LeeJ: I do not think it disables JS by default. Certainly not for me. |
13:43 | LeeJ | oleonard: then it seems people were foolish who were complaining to me about it :P |
13:43 | oleonard | Mozilla wants people to want to use Firefox, so they're not going to disable JS by default. |
13:44 | LeeJ | we have machines here that have 4GB of RAM and with only the Koha intranet homepage open Firefox took up 66% of the RAM...hopefully there won't be any negative Koha impacts? |
13:45 | oleonard | It's supposed to run faster, though I haven't put it to any tests. |
13:45 | I mean... The whole point is for it to run faster. | |
13:46 | LeeJ | well so far we're not impressed here...took twice the time to open up Firefox on each PC |
13:46 | even loading the Koha login took a good 45 seconds even after repeating the steps :( | |
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13:48 | marcelr | hi #koha |
13:48 | * LeeJ | waves to marcelr |
13:48 | marcelr | o/ |
13:50 | oleonard | 2-second load for the Koha home page here, uncached. We have a pretty fast connection though. |
13:55 | LeeJ | hmm..I'll have to investigate later |
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13:58 | mveron | Hi again #koha |
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13:59 | oleonard | Hi mveron |
14:00 | mveron | Hi oleonard |
14:00 | LibraryClaire | hi mveron |
14:01 | mveron | Hi LibraryClaire |
14:02 | * cait1 | waves |
14:02 | thd | Is there meant to be a meeting now? |
14:02 | oleonard | That's what my calendar said. |
14:02 | * mveron | waves back |
14:02 | cait1 | i pinged kidclamp |
14:02 | * LeeJ | waves to all incoming |
14:03 | kidclamp | ah yes |
14:03 | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 15 November 2017 | |
14:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 14:03:20 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
14:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
14:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_15_november_2017' |
14:03 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
14:03 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:03 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
14:03 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
14:03 | LeeJ | #info Lee Jamison, Marywood University |
14:03 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
14:04 | LibraryClaire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ |
14:04 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
14:04 | mveron | #info Marc Véron, Switzerland |
14:04 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:05 | kidclamp | anyone have anything? |
14:05 | thd | Yes |
14:05 | After tomorrow, I should have redundant internet service from home and be working my way back to working on Koha. | |
14:05 | kidclamp | hooray |
14:06 | LeeJ | yayy |
14:06 | thd | After 8 months of no service at home and exhaustion taking a netbook to wherever I could get a connection. |
14:06 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
14:06 | kidclamp | #topic Update on releases |
14:06 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:07 | kidclamp | String freeze is in place for 17.11 - joubu is out for a bit, tcohen is pushing bugfixes |
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14:07 | thd | It will take me two or three months to catch up to go back to working on the wiki which I had to leave abruptly. |
14:07 | kidclamp | cait fridolin? |
14:07 | cait1 | i will push tonight |
14:07 | string freeze tomorrow | |
14:07 | but that was not the right topic slot... was it? | |
14:07 | josef_moravec | #info Josef Moravec, Municipal library Usti nad Orlici |
14:08 | kidclamp | is fine I think cait - there was meetin glast week too |
14:08 | fridolin | hi |
14:08 | kidclamp | I am pinging frido on anything that comes up in 17.05 upgrades so things moving along nicely I think |
14:08 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre |
14:09 | yep | |
14:09 | cait1 | I was not available last week, just back to work today, still some catching up to do |
14:09 | fridolin | i m going to focus on major bugs for this release |
14:10 | kidclamp | bug 19626 could use some love |
14:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19626 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Database update for bug 12063 incorrectly calculates expirationdate for holds |
14:10 | kidclamp | #topic Vote on roles for 18.05 |
14:10 | Topic for #koha is now Vote on roles for 18.05 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:10 | * oleonard | votes yes |
14:10 | LeeJ | lol |
14:10 | kidclamp | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.05 ProposedRoles for 18.05 |
14:10 | * LeeJ | seconds |
14:11 | kidclamp | any discussion? or we can vote the slate |
14:11 | cait++ | |
14:11 | LeeJ | cait++ |
14:11 | kidclamp | alex_a++ |
14:12 | no questions? | |
14:12 | LeeJ | none here |
14:12 | * kidclamp | has to remind himself about voting |
14:12 | cait1 | kidclamp++ |
14:13 | fridolin | kidclamp++ for RMaint 1711 |
14:13 | cait1 | only 2 roles left etmpy - wiki curator and db documentation |
14:13 | oleonard | Copious gratitude to all who volunteer |
14:13 | thd | Once I have finished catching up with things, in two or three months I will put name up to carry forward the long delayed plan to migrate the wiki to MYSQL and supporting Semantic MediaWiki. |
14:13 | cait1 | i think that's ok, we don't need them filled with start of 18.05 |
14:14 | kidclamp | #startvote shall we accept all proposed roles for 18.05 as listed here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.05 as of today? Yes, No, Abstain |
14:14 | huginn | Begin voting on: shall we accept all proposed roles for 18.05 as listed here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.05 as of today? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
14:14 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
14:14 | oleonard | #vote Yes |
14:14 | cait1 | #vote Yes |
14:14 | fridolin | #vote yes |
14:14 | thd | #vote Yes |
14:14 | LibraryClaire | #vote Yes |
14:14 | mveron | #vote yes |
14:14 | LeeJ | #vote Yes |
14:15 | josef_moravec | #vote Yes |
14:15 | kidclamp | #vote Yes |
14:15 | last call | |
14:15 | * oleonard | votes Yes again |
14:16 | kidclamp | #endvote |
14:16 | huginn | Voted on "shall we accept all proposed roles for 18.05 as listed here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_18.05 as of today?" Results are |
14:16 | Yes (9): LibraryClaire, cait1, josef_moravec, oleonard, kidclamp, fridolin, mveron, thd, LeeJ | |
14:16 | kidclamp | thanks all! |
14:16 | LeeJ | :D |
14:16 | kidclamp | #topic Next meeting |
14:16 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 15 November 2017) | |
14:17 | kidclamp | 13 December 2017, 20 UTC? |
14:17 | LeeJ | works for me! |
14:17 | fridolin | k |
14:17 | cait1 | me too |
14:17 | thd | I question how we are adjusting the hour for the time changes. |
14:17 | kidclamp | loosely and by the seat of our pants barring complaints thd |
14:18 | magnuse | oh "#vote yes" from me too |
14:18 | thd | I will probably not be present next time as that is my birthday and I will be in California. |
14:18 | kidclamp | #info magnuse belatedly supports the candidates |
14:18 | magnuse | :-) |
14:19 | LeeJ | happy early birthday thd! Yay being December babies! |
14:19 | kidclamp | #info next meeting 13 December 2017, 20 UTC |
14:19 | that's all folks! | |
14:19 | LibraryClaire | kidclamp++ |
14:19 | kidclamp | #endmeeting |
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14:19 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
14:19 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 14:19:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
14:19 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-11-15-14.03.html | |
14:19 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]7-11-15-14.03.txt | |
14:19 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]15-14.03.log.html | |
14:19 | josef_moravec | thanks kidclamp ;) |
14:19 | LeeJ | kidclamp++ |
14:19 | marcelr | hey meeting missed ;) |
14:20 | thd | Is that a record for a short meeting? |
14:20 | kidclamp | backport alll the things! the power!! |
14:20 | oleonard | kidclamp++ |
14:20 | josef_moravec | hi marcelr |
14:20 | kidclamp | ni marcelr |
14:20 | marcelr | o/ |
14:20 | * kidclamp | apparently is a knight who says ni |
14:20 | oleonard | Nice to see you josef_moravec, seems like it has been a while |
14:20 | cait1 | josef_moravec: also great to see you on the qa team |
14:20 | kidclamp | josef_moravec++ |
14:20 | * LibraryClaire | wonders how kidclamp feels about shrubberies |
14:21 | josef_moravec | oleonard: yes, I didn't hav much time last months, but now it is going to be better ;) |
14:21 | thanks cait1 ;) | |
14:21 | LeeJ | kidclamp: so shrubbery pleases you? |
14:22 | kidclamp | I do like a good shrub |
14:22 | LibraryClaire | LeeJ++ |
14:22 | kidclamp | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrub_(drink) |
14:22 | thd | Anyone here with good understanding of circuit breakers? |
14:22 | LeeJ | kidclamp: at what point do you change to a knight who says "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke" Ptang Zoo Boing!? |
14:23 | kidclamp | it's unpredictable LeeJ, maybe once my coconuts have been delivered |
14:24 | LibraryClaire | by swallows? |
14:24 | * LeeJ | looks around for Patsy |
14:25 | LeeJ | in case anyone was wondering.. |
14:25 | http://style.org/unladenswallow/ | |
14:26 | the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow is 11 m/s (24 mph) | |
14:26 | * thd | is puzzled by how double pole circuit breakers manage the load overall for two separate circuits. |
14:26 | LeeJ | thd: even though I'm in a CS program, we haven't had a class on circuitry yet :P |
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14:29 | thd | LeeJ: I may have a failing circuit breaker which would need changing if that is the case. However, putting two separate circuits on the circuit breaker seems to really make them one circuit. |
14:29 | LeeJ | makes sense |
14:30 | thd | My redundant internet service from two separate companies will not be redundant at all if the power fails. |
14:31 | LeeJ | ouch |
14:32 | thd | ... as it has at an increasingly frequent rate with no real change in my consumption. |
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14:35 | thd | I am migrating from several desktop systems for primary backup to two low power servers in hopes of reducing power consumption. |
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14:45 | LeeJ | off to class..bbl |
14:47 | skimsk | FYI oleonard: i got the barcodes imported by moving the barcode to 952p! thanks again! |
14:47 | oleonard | Great! |
14:48 | LibraryClaire | oleonard++ |
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15:01 | vfernandes | Hi guys |
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15:02 | vfernandes | one quick question: which functionally uses docdir attribute of koha-conf.xml? |
15:04 | magnuse | vfernandes: the display of the history.txt file in the "About Koha" section of the intranet, as far as i can tell |
15:04 | (grep -rn "docdir" *) | |
15:04 | vfernandes | ok... for files upload is upload_path attribute right? |
15:04 | magnuse | i think so, yes |
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15:16 | reiveune | bye |
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15:25 | LibraryClaire | : |
15:25 | vfernandes | thanks magnuse |
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15:37 | oleonard | LibraryClaire++ |
15:46 | * tcohen | uploaded an image: image.png (163KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]SQYRBOtmAgpgurTuB> |
15:46 | tcohen | oleonard: ^^ |
15:46 | oleonard | I like it. Is there a warning upon clicking "Reset?" |
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15:48 | tuxayo | tcohen: how do you use matrix.org without a [m] in you nick? |
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15:54 | tcohen | oleonard: like a confirm dialog? |
15:54 | oleonard | Yes. I assume that would clear the list of scanned barcodes, and if you hadn't submitted them yet they would be lost. |
15:55 | tcohen | yes |
15:55 | exactly | |
15:55 | tuxayo: don't know exactly, but I managed to. I even managed to send the identify command to the NickServ | |
15:58 | * tcohen | uploaded an image: image.png (94KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]OFlmOQbJvhkeJCXfa> |
15:58 | tcohen | oleonard: ^^ |
15:58 | oleonard | "X" means checked in? |
15:58 | tcohen | I use a fa-check glyph for success |
15:58 | still trying to figure how to display the problem message | |
15:59 | no, it means error | |
15:59 | tuxayo[m] | tcohen: I too managed to identify. but I can't change the nick :( |
15:59 | oleonard | I wouldn't use an icon. I'd use text: "Checked in" or "Not checked in" ( + error ) |
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16:00 | tcohen | oleonard: good idea |
16:00 | tuxayo: try /nick tuxayo | |
16:00 | on the OFTC bridge | |
16:09 | tuxayo[m] | tcohen: /nick That's what I tried. |
16:09 | «on the OFTC bridge» you mean on this account? That what I did. I see my nick changed but no one else does... | |
16:10 | kidclamp_away | tuxayo try !nick |
16:10 | tuxayo[m] | !nick tuxayo_test |
16:11 | tuxayo | great ^^" |
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16:11 | kidclamp_away | khall knows |
16:11 | * kidclamp_away | goes away away |
16:12 | khall | indeed I do |
16:12 | good luck kidclamp_away ! | |
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16:12 | * cait | waves |
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16:44 | tuxayo | khall: oh you know how use matrix/Riot here without having a [m] in one's nick? |
16:45 | khall | pm the OFTC IRC Bridge with the message "!nick your_nick" |
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16:46 | oleonard | Anyone know who manages http://splitter.koha-community.org? |
16:47 | tuxayo | khall: how to find the nick of the bridge? i'll have to do the same on freenet |
16:48 | khall | tuxayo: it just showed up in my People list at some point. I think the acutal name is "OFTC IRC Bridge status" |
16:49 | looks like it is "@oftc-irc:matrix.org" | |
16:50 | oleonard | is matrix.org something we are using as a group, or just individually? |
16:51 | tcohen | individually |
16:56 | tuxayo | oleonard: from what I understand it's a federated chat protocol + network with offline messaging and multiple devices + audio + video + file sharing + end to encryption (beta) |
16:56 | And it has bridges to some IRC networks and Gitter | |
17:05 | josef_moravec | by #koha |
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17:14 | tuxayo_test3 | khall, it works, thanks! |
17:22 | * tcohen | uploaded an image: image.png (193KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]bvphChVykZVMzkGGm> |
17:22 | tcohen | oleonard , khall ^^^ |
17:23 | oleonard | thumbs_up.png |
17:23 | tcohen | thanks for the suggestions, oleonard |
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17:29 | tuxayo_test3 | 1k k |
17:30 | glish on my web client sorry | |
17:37 | khall, tcohen1 Here is the page with the nicks to send the !nick commands to for all IRC bridges. https://github.com/matrix-org/[…]dged-IRC-networks | |
17:43 | tcohen | oleonard: where can I find good modal examples in the OPAC? |
17:44 | oleonard | Do we have any? |
17:44 | tcohen | login maybe? |
17:45 | oleonard | Oh yeah, my brain isn't good |
17:45 | tcohen | oleonard: can I CC you on the bug so you take a look? |
17:46 | oleonard | Yes |
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17:48 | tcohen | I need to add the confirmation modal, and replace the help link with a modal too |
17:48 | but submitted so I have more opinions | |
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18:30 | LeeJ | take care all! |
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21:53 | cait | I think i need some help to fix bug 19593 |
21:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19593 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Delete vendor" button is always set |
21:54 | cait | not so much because delete vendor is always set, more because it means receive shipment is missing |
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22:54 | cait | wizzyrea: looking for some links about how to fix indexing and noticed the wiki links to this faq on the website: https://koha-community.org/faq[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ should we remove/update? indexer is now default and it pre-package commands |
22:55 | wizzyrea | sure |
22:55 | what words do you want on there | |
22:55 | cait | do we still want to maintain the faq on the website? |
22:55 | wizzyrea | doesn't matter to me |
22:56 | if there were people interested in maintaining it there I"m happy to let them | |
22:56 | cait | i think it needs a complete rewrite - can't fix it right now |
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22:59 | cait | could we hide it? |
23:00 | for now? | |
23:00 | there is also a faq section in the manual | |
23:00 | i think we have lots of scattered information and probably should agree on one spot | |
23:00 | as not many people can edit the website, the manual might be a bit easier long term | |
23:00 | but also needs updataing | |
23:01 | wizzyrea | we could hide it |
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