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| 01:35 | rkl | hello everyone. I would like to ask is there any way for me to get list of username and password of my patrons? |
| 01:35 | which SQL report should i run? | |
| 01:37 | wizzyrea | you can't get the passwords |
| 01:37 | the passwords are one way encrypted. | |
| 01:38 | but you can select username from borrowers; | |
| 01:38 | and that would get the usernames. | |
| 01:38 | rkl ^ | |
| 01:39 | rkl | noted on that. thank you so much for your help wizzyrea! |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | np good luck |
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| 06:21 | cait | @later tell kidclamp general and dev meeting overlapping today? |
| 06:21 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:33 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:29 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 08:24 | fridolin | hie tehre |
| 08:24 | #coffeeeeeeee | |
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| 08:28 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:36 | andreashm | hej magnuse |
| 08:37 | magnuse | tjänare andreashm |
| 08:37 | ooh, hackfest in Lund! | |
| 08:40 | andreashm | magnuse: yes! |
| 08:40 | wanna come? | |
| 08:41 | magnuse | http://koha.se/koha-i-sverige/[…]29-november-2017/ |
| 08:41 | sure, if it is open to vendors? | |
| 08:42 | andreashm | I think it will be. Need to double-check though. |
| 08:43 | magnuse | it doesn't say anywhere that vendors are excluded |
| 08:44 | andreashm | Yup, I know. |
| 08:44 | We discussed that, but not sure what we agreed on. | |
| 08:45 | eythian | hi |
| 08:45 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 08:46 | andreashm | magnuse: I think it's open for everyone, but I'll let you know. |
| 08:47 | magnuse | great! |
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| 09:40 | alex_a_ | Joubu: around? |
| 09:53 | cait | fridolin: around? |
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| 10:02 | fridolin | cait: yep hie |
| 10:10 | cait: ? | |
| 10:11 | wahanui: im online ? | |
| 10:11 | wahanui | fridolin: i haven't a clue |
| 10:15 | cait | ah sorry |
| 10:16 | fridolin: can you push some bug fixes this week maybe? there are quite a few mean ones waiting and I need some time extra in case they don't apply (and travelling next week) | |
| 10:20 | fridolin | cait: yep i'm late on push but im on it now |
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| 10:20 | fridolin | cait: if you want some to be priority, send me email |
| 10:22 | cait | the bugs from Joubu's email |
| 10:22 | that he listed additionally to the security ones | |
| 10:22 | they cover most of it | |
| 10:23 | and thx! | |
| 10:24 | fridolin | cait: ouch im lost in my mails, could you get them and mail me, it's more secure |
| 10:24 | * fridolin | not yet out of holidays |
| 10:25 | cait | can't access right now, but if you start at where you left off you probably get to them soon |
| 10:35 | magnuse | fridolin++ cait++ |
| 10:35 | cait | fridolin: 18996, 8331, 16976, 18624, 19053, 19049, 18919 |
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| 11:43 | fridolin | oki cool thanks |
| 11:44 | magnuse: bonjour à toi | |
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| 11:49 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 11:49 | LeeJ | hi #koha |
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| 12:26 | LeeJ | oleonard: around? |
| 12:26 | oleonard | yes |
| 12:26 | LeeJ | oleonard: are there any existing examples of calling a Perl script from jQuery in Koha? |
| 12:27 | oleonard | AJAX? Yes. Patron autocomplete, for instance. |
| 12:28 | cait | oleonard++ :) |
| 12:28 | oleonard | ysearch.pl, although that's probably the oldest example |
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| 12:30 | LeeJ | oleonard + 10 |
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| 12:31 | LeeJ | oleonard: I knew I came to the right UI guru :) |
| 12:31 | oleonard | What's your plan? |
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| 12:34 | LeeJ | oleonard: it's basically for my main responsibility at work. The short version would be "patron confirms place hold on OPAC, script gets called, triggers my external server which returns a response code to the script" |
| 12:35 | oleonard | So communicating between Koha and another server? |
| 12:36 | LeeJ | yes |
| 12:36 | oleonard | Same domain? |
| 12:37 | LeeJ | our Koha is hosted by BWS..the server is on my campus in the library |
| 12:37 | I already have the server talking with Koha one-way..this would be to get it communicating both ways | |
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| 12:38 | oleonard | Browsers have restrictions on cross-domain AJAX operations, so you may run into trouble. |
| 12:39 | LeeJ | I should have clarified that the call to the server is via TCP socket |
| 12:40 | I just wanted to find an AJAX example to reference..I think I'm gonna play around with it and see what breaks :) | |
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| 12:43 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:49 | LeeJ | hi marcelr |
| 12:49 | marcelr | hi LeeJ |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:52 | LeeJ | marcelr: question...what's up with Bug 15438? it's marked NSO but I can't tell if I should hold off on testing because it looked like you were waiting for an updated patch? |
| 12:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15438 critical, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Checking out an on-hold item sends holder's borrowernumber in AF (screen message) field. |
| 12:53 | marcelr | LeeJ: you can test that one; if you signoff, i hope to qa it this week |
| 12:53 | i agree that these comments are confusing btw | |
| 12:55 | LeeJ | marcelr: agreed. That's why I wanted to check with you first before I did anything. Just noticed now that Kyle uploaded a more recent patch but there's no attachment comment in the comments |
| 12:55 | marcelr | which got me confused somehow |
| 12:56 | LeeJ | mhm |
| 12:56 | will test it sometime today..trying to get stuff done before class and our annual picnic :D | |
| 12:56 | marcelr | great |
| 12:56 | fridolin around ? | |
| 12:58 | fridolin: bug 18996 and its dependency on bug 17680: have a look at the last followup dt_from_string failing silently | |
| 12:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18996 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , SIP sets ok flag to true for refused checkin for data corruption |
| 12:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17680 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, C4::Circulation - Replace GetItemIssue with Koha::Checkouts | |
| 12:58 | marcelr | fridolin: i suspect that you do not need it but safety first.. |
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| 12:59 | fridolin | marcelr: oki thanks for the warning |
| 12:59 | i'm trying to rebase on 17.05.x without bug 17680 | |
| 13:00 | marcelr | you managed to do so, i understand |
| 13:00 | i confirm that the dependency was only needed on master | |
| 13:01 | fridolin | marcelr: the last followup ? not [QA Followup] - Fix some minor whitespace issues ? |
| 13:01 | marcelr | no the last followup on 17680 |
| 13:01 | fridolin | ah oki |
| 13:01 | marcelr | that was a nasty bug |
| 13:01 | but you dont need it | |
| 13:02 | fridolin | yep I see, thanks for your help |
| 13:02 | RMaint is a hard work sometimes | |
| 13:03 | but I'm happy to do it for the community | |
| 13:03 | #peaceandlove | |
| 13:04 | marcelr | fridolin++ |
| 13:07 | Joubu | hi |
| 13:07 | wahanui | bonjour, Joubu |
| 13:07 | marcelr | hello Joubu |
| 13:11 | LeeJ | haha didn't know wahanui spoke French :P |
| 13:12 | tcohen | hi Joubu |
| 13:13 | Joubu: good answers to the call for a hackfest in Argentina | |
| 13:13 | (including Chile people) | |
| 13:14 | Joubu | tcohen: I did not receive any of them |
| 13:14 | tcohen | bummer |
| 13:15 | we need a registration form | |
| 13:17 | LeeJ | tcohen: not sure if you saw us do it, but wizzyrea and I created something yesterday that I think you'd appreciate |
| 13:18 | such vagrant? | |
| 13:18 | wahanui | it has been said that such vagrant is https://imgur.com/ehoae99\ |
| 13:18 | tcohen | :-S |
| 13:18 | :-D | |
| 13:18 | hehe | |
| 13:18 | I like it | |
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| 13:19 | * LeeJ | bows |
| 13:20 | LeeJ | I made it myself after wizzyrea was helping me explain kohadevbox to pianohacker yesterday and it gave me inspiration when she said you can use vagrant up --provision if you bork up the devbox |
| 13:20 | tcohen | hehe |
| 13:20 | yeah, I don't understand why people prefer vagrant up --provision | |
| 13:20 | LeeJ | nor do I |
| 13:20 | tcohen | when there's vagrant provision (shorter) |
| 13:21 | LeeJ | O.o |
| 13:21 | didn't know that... | |
| 13:21 | tcohen | I guess is upper on the vagrant docs? |
| 13:21 | LeeJ | I've only ever seen it listed with the hyphenated flag |
| 13:21 | tcohen | ah |
| 13:21 | LeeJ | OOH |
| 13:21 | I see it now | |
| 13:21 | tcohen | the README has it |
| 13:21 | I missed it at some point | |
| 13:22 | LeeJ | READMEs are for people with free time ;D |
| 13:22 | tcohen | LOL |
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| 13:28 | Joubu | tcohen: search tests are still failing :-/ |
| 13:28 | tcohen | saw it, they failed for me during my flight |
| 13:30 | Joubu: will try to fix it after lunch | |
| 13:30 | Joubu | a |
| 13:30 | and | |
| 13:30 | t/Budgets.t .................................................... ok 13648 ms | |
| 13:30 | vs | |
| 13:30 | t/Budgets.t .................................................... ok 25627 ms | |
| 13:31 | marcelr | Joubu: And Serials.t ? |
| 13:31 | wahanui | Serials.t is probably failing |
| 13:31 | tcohen | that woudl be a refinement step |
| 13:31 | Joubu | serials.t? |
| 13:31 | wahanui | i think serials.t is failing |
| 13:31 | Joubu | serials.t is not failing |
| 13:31 | serials.t? | |
| 13:31 | wahanui | somebody said serials.t was failing |
| 13:32 | marcelr | i had it failing on my vm |
| 13:32 | will still have a look on it | |
| 13:32 | tcohen | marcelr: Joubu refers to the tests being ran in docker containers instead of the old plain VM |
| 13:32 | marcelr | yeah just interference |
| 13:33 | tcohen | marcelr: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/job/Koha_Master/ |
| 13:33 | marcelr | no Serials for breakfast ;) |
| 13:34 | # Failed test 'Values should not be erased on editing' # at Serials.t line 174. | |
| 13:35 | Joubu | certainly a data "problem" |
| 13:35 | tcohen | marcelr: does it fail if you do a reset_all? |
| 13:35 | (save the DB first!) | |
| 13:35 | marcelr | hmm not on a devbox |
| 13:36 | kohadevbox | |
| 13:36 | wahanui | hmmm... kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox |
| 13:36 | marcelr | Joubu: could be data yes, test machine |
| 13:37 | would be nice if those tests ignored my bad data.. | |
| 13:37 | Joubu | yes sure |
| 13:37 | but it will be hard to debug for you :) | |
| 13:40 | LeeJ | take care for now all..bbl |
| 13:43 | Joubu | tcohen: bug 19262 |
| 13:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19262 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , pod_spell.t does not work |
| 13:45 | Joubu | tcohen: bug 19256 |
| 13:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha::Acquisition::Order should use Koha::Object |
| 13:46 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 13:48 | marcelr | Joubu: your Items.pm fix is appreciated on the ml |
| 13:49 | Joubu | marcelr: seen bug 17600 comment 75, right? :) |
| 13:49 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'bug', Joubu |
| 13:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Standardize the EXPORT |
| 13:50 | bug | I am everywhere! |
| 13:50 | marcelr | yeah i saw it |
| 13:50 | Joubu | seen bug |
| 13:50 | wahanui | bug was last seen on #koha 9 seconds ago, saying: I am everywhere! [Wed Sep 6 13:50:19 2017] |
| 13:50 | marcelr | really hopeful |
| 13:52 | where is my bug swatter? | |
| 13:52 | Joubu | tcohen: do you remember why the rm cover_db is in the jenkins config? |
| 13:53 | it makes sense, but people not knowing that will not be able to launch the tests using koha-testing-docker | |
| 13:54 | tcohen | Joubu: I don't remember |
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| 14:03 | Joubu | fridolin: you should add bug 18927 on your list of bugs to backport (not pushed yet) |
| 14:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18927 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , koha-rebuild-zebra is failing with "error retrieving biblio" |
| 14:04 | marcelr | Serials.t passes again with me; it did not expect changed Koha to MARC mappings for items.. |
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| 14:15 | fridolin | Joubu: aoki |
| 14:36 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.05.x_D8 build #12: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_17.05.x_D8/12/ |
| 14:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Handle data corruption from old_issues at SIP checkin | |
| 14:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Resolve an uninitialized warning from ILS/Item.pm | |
| 14:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: Add checkin subtest in SIP/Message.t | |
| 14:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996: [QA Follow-up] Remove global variables from Message.t | |
| 14:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18996 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , SIP sets ok flag to true for refused checkin for data corruption |
| 14:36 | jenkins | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18996 [QA Followup] - Fix some minor whitespace issues |
| 14:52 | oleonard | Anyone know why I would suddenly be having problems with port collisions with kohadevbox and another running vagrant box? I wasn't having this problem until this week |
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| 14:52 | oleonard | "The forwarded port to 2222 is already in use on the host machine" |
| 15:00 | cait | oleonard: i had that happen to me too |
| 15:00 | when i halted everything and restarted it was usually ok | |
| 15:00 | i have 2 kohadevbox instances so it was probably my fault | |
| 15:01 | * oleonard | is trying again |
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| 15:04 | TGoat | good morning :) |
| 15:06 | cait | hi TGoat |
| 15:06 | TGoat | hi cait! |
| 15:06 | cait | has anyone seen that there is a collision about meetings tonight? |
| 15:06 | dev and general one, same time | |
| 15:07 | Joubu? | |
| 15:07 | wahanui | i think Joubu is not sure how to fix that correctly |
| 15:07 | Joubu | still not sure |
| 15:07 | ha | |
| 15:07 | cait | i think easier to push the dev meeting maybe |
| 15:08 | it's in the wrong spot (first wednesday of a month is always general meeting) | |
| 15:08 | 2 meetings at once would make my brain explode :) | |
| 15:10 | Joubu | September 13th, 22UTC then? |
| 15:11 | tcohen | oleonard: that issues are not problematic, it will set another port for ssh |
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| 15:13 | oleonard | Joubu: 13th works for me. |
| 15:14 | cait | i will be travelling but it's ok |
| 15:15 | Joubu | mail sent |
| 15:15 | wahanui | mail sent is not working in koha 3.10 |
| 15:15 | cait | forget mail sent |
| 15:15 | wahanui | cait: I forgot mail sent |
| 15:15 | oleonard | wahanui: Don't forget to send the mail |
| 15:15 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 15:16 | oleonard | wahanui: Grannie waiting for your postcard. |
| 15:16 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 15:22 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:28 | LeeJ | oleonard still having port problems? |
| 15:28 | oleonard | No |
| 15:28 | LeeJ | cool |
| 15:29 | oleonard | I set fire to my computer and became a roofer. I'm all about roofs now. |
| 15:30 | LeeJ | do you sell roofs and roof accessories? |
| 15:32 | oleonard | I craft bespoke roofs using artisanal materials. |
| 15:33 | LeeJ | :O |
| 15:34 | FYI if I'm able to attend the meeting tonight I might be attending via IRC on my phone..but I'll be there nonetheless :P | |
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| 15:42 | alex_a | Joubu: please take a look at bz 11580 |
| 15:46 | Joubu | alex_a: I am on it |
| 15:52 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 16:36 | jenkins | Project Koha_17.05.x_D8 build #13: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_17.05.x_D8/13/ |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Fix CSV export (once and for all!) | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Force tt to insert newline to empty_line.inc | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Followup - Fix CSV export (once and for all!) | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: Followup - fix path to orders_by_budget csv header | |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18331 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , CSV exports need to be fixed once and for all |
| 16:36 | jenkins | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18331: POST_CHOMP everywhere! |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 16976 - Authorities searches with double quotes gives ZOOM error | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 16976 - Unit tests | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Minor refactoring to ease testing | |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16976 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Authorities searches with double quotes gives ZOOM error 20003 |
| 16:36 | jenkins | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Regression test for 'any' vs 'all' |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Run time errors when searching authorities with Elastic | |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18624 critical, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Software error when searching authorities in Elasticsearch - incorrect parameter "any" should be "all" |
| 16:36 | jenkins | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: (followup) opac-authorities-home.tt uses 'any' |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18624: Do not return 1 in tests | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19053: Keep auto_renew flag if a confirmation is needed | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: Fix regression on stage-marc-import with to_marc plugin | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: Testing RecordsFromMarcPlugin with a to_marc plugin | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: [Follow-up] Make sure that GetPlugins finds the plugin | |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19053 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Auto renewal flag is not kept if a confirmation is needed |
| 16:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19049 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Fix regression on stage-marc-import with to_marc plugin | |
| 16:36 | jenkins | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049 [QA Followup] - Make plugin name first item in description |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 19049: [QA Follow-up] Mock config, default format | |
| 16:36 | * fridolin.somers: Bug 18919: Repair "Transaction branch" in cash_register_stats.pl | |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18919 minor, P5 - low, ---, baptiste.wojtkowski, Pushed to Stable , "Transaction Branch" select field broken in Cash register statistics |
| 16:37 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17834: Make translation easier <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]61a93a197467bd9a1> / Bug 17834: Change library news text for single-branch libraries <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]44a36204cf4acb3c2> / Bug 19215: Fixing typo in URL for patron clubs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; | |
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| 18:36 | LeeJ | anyone good with jquery around? |
| 18:44 | jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:44 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 18:44 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #251: FIXED in 2 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/251/ |
| 18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11580 - Fix expiry calculation and rewrite tests | |
| 18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11580: Add one more test and clear the cache | |
| 18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 18927: Use fully qualified subroutine names in C4::Items | |
| 18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19215: Fixing typo in URL for patron clubs | |
| 18:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11580 normal, P5 - low, ---, baptiste.wojtkowski, Pushed to Master , If returnBeforeExpiry is on, holidays are not taken into account to calculate the due date |
| 18:44 | jenkins | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17834: Change library news text for single-branch libraries |
| 18:44 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 17834: Make translation easier | |
| 18:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18927 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , koha-rebuild-zebra is failing with "error retrieving biblio" |
| 18:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19215 minor, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , Typo in URL when editing a patron club template | |
| 18:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17834 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , Change library news text for single-branch libraries | |
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| 20:24 | * cait | waves |
| 20:27 | * LeeJ | waves |
| 20:27 | * magnuse | waves |
| 20:28 | * LeeJ | waves to magnuse |
| 20:28 | * magnuse | waves to LeeJ |
| 20:29 | * LeeJ | shakes fist at jQuery |
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| 20:58 | cait | LeeJ: do you still need someone to help with jQuery? |
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| 21:02 | LeeJ | cait: possibly...I'm trying to get jQuery to traverse HTML tags how I want but it's not working :P |
| 21:03 | cait | what exactly do you want ot do? |
| 21:04 | LeeJ | have a confirm when a patron clicks Place hold on the OPAC when the item is checked out |
| 21:06 | pastebot | "LeeJ" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "sample jQuery prompt" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/641 |
| 21:07 | LeeJ | cait: that's what I have so far |
| 21:07 | though I know it's inherently wrong since the parents() call ends up applying to EVERY result | |
| 21:08 | cait | hmm |
| 21:08 | just the normal opac reserve page? | |
| 21:08 | do you allow multiple holds? | |
| 21:08 | LeeJ | I know...I put myself in odd places :P |
| 21:09 | we do allow multiple holds..so far the only problem we've run into is from opac-search | |
| 21:09 | cait | so the confirm should show when the item is checked out? |
| 21:09 | LeeJ | correct |
| 21:09 | cait | what if there are multiple items? |
| 21:10 | is this for item level holds? | |
| 21:10 | LeeJ | ahhhhhh |
| 21:10 | I see where you're going with that... | |
| 21:10 | that didn't dawn on me...I should do it from opac-reserve instead of opac-search | |
| 21:10 | cait | actually just trying to understand the spec :) |
| 21:11 | LeeJ | haha |
| 21:11 | well the short version of it is.. | |
| 21:12 | at our main branch, patrons select what they want and the main branch allows on shelf holds and forces item-level holds on the OPAC | |
| 21:13 | cait | and you don't want them to place hold if there is still an available item? |
| 21:13 | LeeJ | only if no items are available |
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| 21:14 | * bohdan_ | slaps bohdan around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 21:15 | cait | hm |
| 21:15 | LeeJ | unusual I know :P |
| 21:15 | cait | not really |
| 21:15 | LeeJ | haha |
| 21:15 | cait | unusual i mean |
| 21:15 | but why allow onshelfholds in the first place then? | |
| 21:16 | LeeJ | it's because of the way our library is designed |
| 21:17 | we don't have stacks so patrons can't go pick what they want and bring the book to the desk to be checked out like a traditional library would operate | |
| 21:17 | instead we have a book retrieval system that houses our collection below ground.. | |
| 21:19 | we have a shelving location called "Bins" that indicates an item stored in the retrieval system so when a user is looking for an item their thought process is basically "alright...I want X book and the catalog says it's located in Bins and it has an available status" | |
| 21:20 | cait: this was our little promotional video to announce the transition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMruUES8WIY | |
| 21:20 | cait | LeeJ: actually closed stacks is a very common thing in university libraries here |
| 21:21 | so you are not that unusual | |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | sigh...I should have realized |
| 21:21 | cait | :) |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | our company was originally a German company :P |
| 21:21 | cait | lol |
| 21:21 | LeeJ | our retrieval system is from Dematic Corp |
| 21:22 | but they were originally HK Systems before the merger | |
| 21:22 | cait | workflows for closed stacks are a usually pressure point in RFPs I'd say |
| 21:22 | around here | |
| 21:22 | some want the ILS to print out the requests on specific printers depending on callnumber range | |
| 21:23 | LeeJ | hmm..so would it be fair to assume that it would give Koha an advantage around there if I were to get fully-integrated closed stacks functionality in place? |
| 21:25 | bohdan_ looks like the beating with your fishbot worked | |
| 21:26 | cait | hm kind of |
| 21:27 | i tihnk the new granular shelf holds help already a bit | |
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| 21:27 | cait | do you just want a 'do you really want that' or would yo uprefer to disallow holds when it's out? |
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| 21:29 | LeeJ | a 'do you really want that' is what I was going for...if every item is already checked out we allow them to place a hold on it for when it gets returned |
| 21:30 | cait | hm ok, so a hold when it#s available |
| 21:30 | or when all items are out | |
| 21:30 | that is not covered yet | |
| 21:30 | in the configuration options | |
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| 21:30 | LeeJ | exactly why I have this predicament lol |
| 21:30 | cait | we got... all have to be checked out... one has to be checked out... and none has to be checked out :) |
| 21:30 | LeeJ | pretty much :P |
| 21:31 | gveranis | hi |
| 21:31 | wahanui | privet, gveranis |
| 21:31 | gveranis | I would like to ask something |
| 21:31 | LeeJ | gveranis: sure what's on your mind? |
| 21:32 | gveranis | I just upgrade one instance to 17.05 , everything is almost ok. But when I check in something I have the known error |
| 21:32 | and when I go to see about page for the data problem | |
| 21:32 | I see "No warnings" ! | |
| 21:32 | any idea ? | |
| 21:33 | LeeJ | on check in does it give you an error message? If so, what's the message it gives? |
| 21:33 | gveranis | The item has not been checked in due to a configuration issue in your system. You must ask an administrator to take a look at the about page and search for the "data problems" section |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | O.o |
| 21:34 | gveranis | but when I go to that page I get No warnings |
| 21:34 | cait | hm and nothing on the systen information tab? on the about page? |
| 21:34 | gveranis | nothing |
| 21:34 | LeeJ | what version did you upgrade from? and did check ins work on the previous version? |
| 21:34 | gveranis | at all ! |
| 21:34 | I had 16.05 | |
| 21:34 | yes | |
| 21:35 | I run also the queries that mention here "https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]uto_increment_fix" -> Are your data corrupted? | |
| 21:35 | to check if I have something corrupted | |
| 21:36 | but queries returned 0 | |
| 21:36 | so I don't ( ! ) have something corrupted ( ! ) | |
| 21:36 | but the message is there ( ! ) | |
| 21:37 | Can I run something to identify why this message shows ? | |
| 21:37 | If I look a file or something ? | |
| 21:37 | LeeJ | hmm.. |
| 21:39 | cait | LeeJ: i think i'd split it |
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| 21:39 | cait | you want tricky things |
| 21:39 | LeeJ | I know |
| 21:39 | it's a curse :( | |
| 21:40 | gveranis | :-( |
| 21:40 | cait | gveranis: that's really odd |
| 21:40 | did you check the issue id of the one that would give you the error? | |
| 21:40 | gveranis | in database ? |
| 21:41 | LeeJ | gveranis: yes |
| 21:42 | gveranis | for that item I have only one issue |
| 21:42 | LeeJ | is that the only item you have found a problem with so far? |
| 21:42 | gveranis | no |
| 21:42 | I have 2 items at the moment | |
| 21:42 | an I upgrade it yesterday | |
| 21:43 | some of items check-in normally | |
| 21:43 | but those 2 no | |
| 21:43 | which function Koha use to check and show this error ? | |
| 21:43 | LeeJ | have you been able to find similarities between the two? |
| 21:44 | I wasn't really involved with fixing the issues table problem...I believe cait was | |
| 21:44 | gveranis | no, different users , differrent branches.. patrons.. |
| 21:44 | *borrowers | |
| 21:44 | cait | gveranis: i'd take note of the issue id of those 2 specifically and check it in old_issues |
| 21:45 | the reason the message shows is that the issue_id is there in issues (checked out) and old_issues (returned) | |
| 21:45 | gveranis | ok this is something strange in my database I notice that I don't have this table at all |
| 21:45 | wait | |
| 21:46 | no sorry I have it ;) | |
| 21:46 | it was down on the page :-D | |
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| 21:48 | gveranis | the issue_id that I have in issues , not exist in old_issues |
| 21:50 | LeeJ | then that's most likely where the error message spawned from I would assume |
| 21:51 | cait: I'll be on my way home when the meeting starts..I'll check back in tomorrow :) have a good night! | |
| 21:51 | cait | too quick for me |
| 21:52 | that's the only case it should be there | |
| 21:52 | the error... it should not display if your db is ok | |
| 21:52 | gveranis | do you know the lines in code ? where Koha check for this ? |
| 21:53 | If I can see something there ? | |
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| 21:58 | mveron | Good midnight / daytime #koha |
| 22:00 | barton | hi mveron! |
| 22:00 | mveron | hi barton :-) |
| 22:00 | greenjimll | Evening all. |
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| 22:00 | thd | Is there a meeting soon or did I come to the wrong time zone? |
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| 22:01 | greenjimll | thd: I hope so! |
| 22:02 | TGoat | howdy everyone :) |
| 22:02 | gveranis | cate Can I fix that thing manually direct in database ? |
| 22:02 | TGoat | thd I think there is a conflict of meetings |
| 22:02 | greenjimll | This should be the general meeting right? Dev meeting put off? |
| 22:02 | TGoat | the general meeting and the koha-dev meeting |
| 22:02 | thd | hehe |
| 22:03 | MKuhn | what conflict, isn't there a Genarl Meeting starting right now? |
| 22:03 | TGoat | what was decided on the meetings? |
| 22:03 | barton | I have a question about circulation limits... let's say that I have a patron of with category CHILD... the default circ rules for type DVD allow the patron to borrow 5 DVDs. I can check out 5 DVDs at any branch, and when I try to check out a 6th, I get a warning. ... if I clone the rules to, say, 'East Branch' and set the staff client location to East Branch, I can now check out 5 more DVD to this patron. Is |
| 22:03 | this a bug, or is this the way that Koha is designed? | |
| 22:03 | TGoat | yes the general meeting is suppose to be starting right now but there was discussion earlier that the two had conflicting times |
| 22:04 | MKuhn | Yes, the dev meeting was suspended |
| 22:04 | TGoat | cool thkx MKuhn .. |
| 22:04 | Mauricio_BR | > Next general meeting will be tonight/today at 22UTC: > https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_6_September_2017 > > And the next development meeting will be next week: > > https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]13_September_2017 |
| 22:04 | MKuhn | postpned to 13 September |
| 22:04 | georgehwilliams | barton - it depends on one of the circulation preferences |
| 22:04 | thd | barton: There should be a meeting now which has not quite yet started. |
| 22:05 | barton | thanks thd. |
| 22:06 | the circcontrol branch is 'the branch the item was checked out from' | |
| 22:06 | TGoat | thanks Mauricio_BR and MKuhn |
| 22:09 | greenjimll | #info Jon Knight, developer at Loughborough University |
| 22:11 | thd | barton: However, can you imagine how the behaviour which you are reporting would be useful as a feature? |
| 22:16 | greenjimll | Is this meeting actually happening? Its 15 minutes past the advertised start time now. |
| 22:16 | MKuhn | There seems to be no meeting... and it's already 00:30 AM over here |
| 22:16 | TGoat | doesn't cait normally lead the meetings? |
| 22:17 | Brooke | cait's probably asleep |
| 22:17 | it's late in Europe | |
| 22:17 | MKuhn | Lately people complained no one is attending the meetings... |
| 22:17 | TGoat | we had a good meeting last month |
| 22:17 | Brooke | I can drive the bus if need be |
| 22:17 | TGoat | :) |
| 22:18 | greenjimll | Well the agenda is online so why not start now? |
| 22:18 | Brooke | gonna do it if no one stops me :P |
| 22:18 | greenjimll | Do it! |
| 22:18 | Brooke | @startmeeting |
| 22:18 | huginn | Brooke: I suck |
| 22:18 | Brooke | #startmeeting |
| 22:18 | wahanui | if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me |
| 22:18 | TGoat | 00:30 for a meeting.. can do better? |
| 22:18 | huginn | Brooke: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' |
| 22:18 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 22:18 | Brooke | #startmeeting General IRC meeting |
| 22:18 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Sep 6 22:18:45 2017 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 22:18 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 22:18 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:18 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting' |
| 22:19 | greenjimll | #info Jon Knight, developer, Loughborough University |
| 22:19 | Brooke | Introductions please if you want with a #info |
| 22:19 | TGoat | #info TGoat |
| 22:19 | wahanui | #info TGoat is going to work on fundraising |
| 22:19 | MKuhn | #info Michael Kuhn, Switzerland |
| 22:19 | georgehwilliams | #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 22:19 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City. - I will need to leave the meeting early |
| 22:19 | mveron | #info Marc Véron, Switzerland |
| 22:20 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | #info TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg |
| 22:20 | gveranis | #info George Veranis , Greece |
| 22:21 | Brooke | #topic announcements |
| 22:21 | Topic for #koha is now announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:21 | Brooke | anyone have anything to announce? |
| 22:21 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | I have nothing to announce |
| 22:22 | greenjimll | Nothing from me. |
| 22:22 | Brooke | fine, I will say that the documentation meeting went well and if folks are curious, there are new tools to look at in that department |
| 22:22 | #topic Update on 16.05 | |
| 22:22 | Topic for #koha is now Update on 16.05 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:22 | Brooke | anyone here in the know on 16.05? |
| 22:23 | *crickets* | |
| 22:23 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ |
| 22:23 | Brooke | hooray |
| 22:23 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | besides what's already known, not I |
| 22:23 | hi ya cait :) | |
| 22:24 | * mveron | waves to cait |
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| 22:24 | Brooke | #topic update on 16.11 |
| 22:24 | Topic for #koha is now update on 16.11 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:24 | Brooke | anyone in the know on the status of 16.11? |
| 22:24 | cait | #info we are back on schedule for now after the security release, will start pushing again soon |
| 22:25 | yes, me, RMaint :) | |
| 22:25 | Brooke | cait++ for sentience at this hour |
| 22:26 | anything else to say? | |
| 22:26 | cait | nothing much |
| 22:26 | Brooke | #topic update on 17.05 |
| 22:26 | Topic for #koha is now update on 17.05 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:26 | Brooke | updates on 17.05 anyone? |
| 22:27 | cait | #info also back on track - some patches pushed today |
| 22:27 | fridolin is probably asleep :) | |
| 22:28 | Brooke | yeah it's nuts to be awake in Europe atm |
| 22:28 | moving along | |
| 22:28 | #topic updates on 17.11 | |
| 22:28 | Topic for #koha is now updates on 17.11 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:28 | Brooke | surely someone is dying to update us on the next release |
| 22:29 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | crickets.. |
| 22:29 | wahanui | crickets are not due to the height of their legs compared to their wingspan or something like that. |
| 22:30 | Brooke | #topic KohaCon |
| 22:30 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:30 | Brooke | so I guess it's old business first here. Anyone have anything to say about the Philippines? |
| 22:31 | * Brooke | is reminded of dance nights at RPI. |
| 22:31 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | do tell |
| 22:31 | Brooke | so does anyone have input about a new location for KohaCon? |
| 22:32 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | brooke it's in the US next year, correct? |
| 22:33 | mveron | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon18_Proposals |
| 22:33 | Brooke | looks like one bid from Portland at the moment |
| 22:34 | cait | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: that's not decided yet |
| 22:34 | Brooke | anyone here associated with that bid? |
| 22:34 | cait | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: technically.. but with one bid at the moment chances seem good :) |
| 22:35 | Brooke | how long do folks have to place their name in the hat before it's voted? |
| 22:35 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | :) |
| 22:35 | cait | checking |
| 22:36 | i think we could decide on a deadline for bidding soon | |
| 22:36 | there is none mentioned on the wiki yet | |
| 22:36 | Brooke | yeah let's do that |
| 22:36 | cait | how long is reasonable? |
| 22:36 | i think calls for bidding have been made | |
| 22:36 | Brooke | would folks be okay with setting a deadline for bids at 2 weeks from now so that a vote could be done at the next general? |
| 22:37 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | that sounds reasonable |
| 22:37 | mveron | +1 |
| 22:37 | georgehwilliams | +1 |
| 22:37 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | +1 |
| 22:37 | greenjimll | Do you vote if there's only one bid? Or is it still needed to get numbers estimates? |
| 22:37 | cait | why not make it 3 then? we have one general a month |
| 22:37 | Brooke | it is possible that some folks are unaware greenjim11 |
| 22:37 | cait | usually first Wendesday of each month |
| 22:38 | Brooke | that is a friendly amendment Cait |
| 22:38 | I'm assuming folks won't have a problem with that, right? | |
| 22:38 | cait | greenjimll: it's procedure - no deadline has been announced, so we do that and close the bidding process after |
| 22:38 | Brooke | so that would be bids close 27 Sep |
| 22:38 | cait | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sses_for_KohaCons |
| 22:39 | but if there are more bids, we will probably set up an online form for voting again | |
| 22:39 | Brooke | hearing no objections |
| 22:39 | cait | it's not limited to irc meetings because of timezones |
| 22:39 | Brooke | #agreed Bids for KohaCon close 27 Sep |
| 22:39 | we'll figure out the voting piece later if it ends up being necessary | |
| 22:40 | but don't worry, it goes out to the listserv | |
| 22:40 | so if you're not on the listserv, get on the listserv if you want to vote ;) | |
| 22:40 | #topic Fundraising | |
| 22:40 | Topic for #koha is now Fundraising (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 22:40 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | sorry for the list |
| 22:41 | Brooke | is Chris here to address the first point? |
| 22:41 | * Brooke | pokes rangi |
| 22:42 | Brooke | going to constructing a fundraising committee then |
| 22:42 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | what time is it in NZ? |
| 22:43 | Brooke | arvo |
| 22:43 | not quite, they are 10.43 AM cause DST does weird stuff | |
| 22:43 | greenjimll | In NZ its currently 10:43AM tomorrow. :-) |
| 22:43 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | I can tell you that in the discussion with Chris the assets will stay in NZ |
| 22:44 | Brooke | that's helpful, thanks |
| 22:44 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | I've emailed Joann but received no response |
| 22:45 | Brooke should I continue down the list? | |
| 22:45 | Brooke | alright well hopefully there will be some updates here next meeting |
| 22:46 | I'd belay | |
| 22:46 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | roger that |
| 22:46 | wahanui | aye aye cap'n |
| 22:46 | Brooke | so thoughts about a fundraising button |
| 22:46 | cait | we had one in the past, I am not opposed, but shouldn't we clarify who will hold the money first? |
| 22:47 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | wasn't there a fundraising button on the site at one time? |
| 22:47 | Donation button | |
| 22:47 | cait | yes, wizzyrea might know where the funds went |
| 22:47 | Brooke | a long time ago when animals could talk, KohaCon 2010 had a paypal button |
| 22:47 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | :D |
| 22:48 | greenjimll | Paypal payments? We did one for a conference in AU that we organised from UK so that payments could be in correct currency. |
| 22:48 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | of course this will be integral to fundraising |
| 22:48 | Brooke | does anyone think it's a bad idea provided it goes someplace safe? |
| 22:48 | I concur TGoat | |
| 22:48 | no button no dosh | |
| 22:49 | there are countries that do not do PayPal, but we can suss something out for them if they're in a giving mood | |
| 22:49 | georgehwilliams | provided it goes someplace safe, I think it's a good idea |
| 22:50 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | maybe we have the cart first here.. do we need a treasurer and so forth. normal fundraising committee type group |
| 22:50 | Brooke | which rests nicely on the next item, which is a New Zealand non profit |
| 22:50 | any kiwis about that want to enlighten us on that? | |
| 22:51 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | I was hoping this is where rangi would pop up |
| 22:51 | Brooke | going to have to bin a lot of this talk or at least let it stew til next meeting |
| 22:51 | I will continue to go through the motions, though | |
| 22:52 | * mveron | found a bug about the button: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14606 |
| 22:52 | huginn | 04Bug 14606: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, In Discussion , Donate to the Koha International Fund |
| 22:52 | Brooke | and add once again that I think it's a great idea for there to be a non profit someplace and I have no objection to that someplace being eNZed |
| 22:52 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | agreed |
| 22:52 | Brooke | strong thoughts on registered membership? |
| 22:53 | cait | what does it mean? |
| 22:53 | rangi | naw, no not profit in nz |
| 22:53 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | to have a registered membership is to have a db of people that are fans, users and supporters |
| 22:53 | there he is | |
| 22:53 | why so rangi? | |
| 22:54 | rangi | will hold the assets, but we arent interested in jumping through the hoops that are required to collect money |
| 22:54 | cait | needs people to run it, I think? |
| 22:54 | Brooke | are other kiwis interested in doing it? |
| 22:54 | rangi | no |
| 22:54 | thats why we havent | |
| 22:54 | Brooke | I know KohaLa in France already has their version of non profit status |
| 22:54 | so that might be another option for the community | |
| 22:54 | cait | about the membership - would that require a payment? Or would it be free? |
| 22:54 | rangi | if the money is going to be coming from us, libraries, then a us one makes sense |
| 22:54 | Brooke | I also believe that Argentina has a similar set up |
| 22:54 | cait | KohaLa is a User group |
| 22:55 | rangi | cos that way you get the tax benefirst |
| 22:55 | benefits | |
| 22:55 | wahanui | benefits are scalability AIUI |
| 22:55 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | cait that is to be established but my thoughts are free. we just want their contact info |
| 22:55 | cait | seems like another list like hea and the wiki then :) |
| 22:56 | maybe we could do something with hea to give people opportunity to register? | |
| 22:56 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | cait we need to stab;ish the breadth of our community and be able to use that info as we reach out |
| 22:56 | establish ^^ | |
| 22:56 | Brooke | cait that seems like a logical opt in option |
| 22:57 | gveranis | if we tell people why we need found rising ? I mean to have a plan for it ? |
| 22:57 | Brooke | it would be nice for a number of different reasons |
| 22:57 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | well, membership and fundraising are two different topics but one does lend itself to other |
| 22:57 | gveranis | *fund |
| 22:57 | Brooke | it'd make conference planning a heck of a lot more stable |
| 22:58 | rangi | (re the fundraising button, there was a sum total of less than 300 nzd) |
| 22:58 | Brooke | it also could theoretically fund development or bug fixing |
| 22:58 | rangi | it wasn't what you would call a success by any stretch of the imagination |
| 22:58 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | factly Brooke |
| 22:58 | zactly | |
| 22:58 | greenjimll | Does hosting of git/bugzilla need to be paid for? |
| 22:59 | Brooke | was it advertised off of IRC? |
| 22:59 | I would also imagine without proper ties to a non profit someplace, people might be less than thrilled to give | |
| 22:59 | cait | be careful |
| 22:59 | rangi | it already was tied |
| 22:59 | cait | you need to state what the contact will be used for beforehand |
| 22:59 | rangi | to a not for profit, registered charitable trust |
| 22:59 | cait | and we already have a general mailing list |
| 23:00 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | having a membership will allow us to do no-ask solicitations. a means top tell people how lucky we are to have Koha and a way to let them express without asking to donate |
| 23:00 | greenjimll | People or institutions? Or both? |
| 23:00 | rangi | by all means try again, but if you want us libraries to contribute, you're way better off with a us not for profit |
| 23:00 | Brooke | Institutional giving is even trickier |
| 23:01 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | for sure |
| 23:01 | rangi think so? | |
| 23:01 | rangi | there is zero tax incentive to donate to a nz charity |
| 23:01 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | Koha has a lot of users.. last I heard possibly over 15,000 |
| 23:02 | greenjimll | 15000 users as in librarians? Or libraries? Certainly not end users - we'll have that in just our students. |
| 23:02 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | well, li braries |
| 23:03 | I can't imagine how many people are using from personal to universities | |
| 23:03 | MKuhn | this is just estimated |
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| 23:03 | Brooke | heightened community development is definitely something the RM has been doing |
| 23:03 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | those who use and know Koha love Koha |
| 23:03 | Brooke | and I think a lot of these topics swirl into one another |
| 23:03 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | we can offer them an opportunity to be a part of it through a free membership |
| 23:04 | Brooke | so in specific Facebook was mentioned |
| 23:04 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | how that works can be decided |
| 23:04 | maybe nothing changes but they have awesome access to fantastic info | |
| 23:04 | greenjimll | You can engage people/organisations using social media before/without the funding ask. |
| 23:04 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | and all we want is an opportunity to share more with them |
| 23:04 | so true greenjimll | |
| 23:05 | it's never an ask it's more a non-ask. they have a sense of wanting top contribute in whatever manner they feel | |
| 23:05 | an obligation to do so | |
| 23:06 | cait1 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg: we have multiple channels to reach out to people |
| 23:06 | like the general mailing list | |
| 23:06 | I don't quite see what another would help | |
| 23:07 | * mveron | found a snapshot with the former Donate button: https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]ha-community.org/ |
| 23:07 | cait1 | and if they get special privileges... that kinda feels wrong |
| 23:07 | at least for a community driven thing | |
| 23:07 | greenjimll | I was at a meeting yesterday where several people said they didn't like the mailing list we use (not Koha's!) but preferred Facebook. Some people were the other way round. |
| 23:07 | cait1 | I don't even have a Facebook account :) |
| 23:07 | Brooke | yeah, I tell people you need to go to where someone lives |
| 23:08 | cait1 | and I know a lot of people who don't - this might vary between countries |
| 23:08 | * Brooke | is not a resident of Googledom or Facebookistan either |
| 23:08 | greenjimll | Different media gets people in different ways. I don't have a Facebook account either, but I do mailing lists and Twitter. Horses for courses. |
| 23:08 | Brooke | yep |
| 23:08 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | I have a Facebook account but it's so wearing |
| 23:08 | * mveron | Is not on Facebook - and does not plan to be there |
| 23:09 | greenjimll | I don't do Facebook, but I am aware that it is where a lot of people, including librarians, spend an awful lot of time and share a large amount of information. |
| 23:09 | Brooke | so I think we'll table this and if someone comes out with a dying passion to stick us on Facebook someplace, we can take up the ins and outs of setting that up over the mailing list |
| 23:09 | #topic time and date of next General meeting | |
| 23:09 | Topic for #koha is now time and date of next General meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting) | |
| 23:10 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | there is a science to fundraising and membership (you can actually get a degree in it) and ours is to find a way to get our fan base to help us with contact info so we can see where everyone is while we share more info.. remind them how lucky we all are and hope they see to helping out |
| 23:10 | Brooke | so 4 Oct? |
| 23:10 | greenjimll | I should point out that Koha is already on Twitter! ;-) |
| 23:12 | Brooke | scheduling conflicts with Wednesday 4 October anyone? |
| 23:12 | mveron | 4 Oct OK for me |
| 23:12 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | sounds good |
| 23:12 | cait1 | ok |
| 23:12 | georgehwilliams | There are also two Koha groups on facebook |
| 23:13 | Brooke | george: please send that out over the listserv |
| 23:13 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | so we do need to have a presence |
| 23:13 | Brooke | we can connect the two and then possibly find more |
| 23:13 | georgehwilliams | I will |
| 23:13 | Brooke | thank you :) |
| 23:13 | greenjimll | Who maintains the @kohails Twitter handle? |
| 23:15 | mveron | https://twitter.com/kohails |
| 23:16 | Brooke | okay so 4 October what UTC is meant for next go? |
| 23:17 | MKuhn | Is it true the last tweet is from Deecember 2016? |
| 23:17 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | let's be more accommodating for our European and NZ folks |
| 23:17 | greenjimll | @kohails has over 1300 followers, quite a lot of who look like librarians, open source fans and techies. Its not tweeted since Dec 16. Could be used to promote these/dev meetings, etc? |
| 23:17 | huginn | greenjimll: downloading the Perl source |
| 23:17 | Brooke | Tgoat it's meant to rotate, or at least it used to |
| 23:17 | just not sure what the current groove is | |
| 23:17 | MKuhn | One more good reason to stay away from Twitter Facebook Google+ and the like |
| 23:17 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | roger that |
| 23:17 | wahanui | aye aye cap'n |
| 23:18 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | well, I'm a west coasty here in the states and I'll accomodate anytime |
| 23:19 | Brooke | I'm gonna put out 16.00 UTC then and see if anyone yelps |
| 23:19 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | sounds good |
| 23:19 | mveron | +1 |
| 23:19 | cait1 | look at the wiki |
| 23:19 | georgehwilliams | +1 |
| 23:19 | cait1 | for the meeting before this one |
| 23:19 | that's the current schedule | |
| 23:19 | 2 time slots | |
| 23:20 | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings | |
| 23:20 | 14 | |
| 23:21 | Brooke | 14 then |
| 23:21 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | +1 |
| 23:21 | Brooke | #agreed Next General Meeting 14.00 UTC 4 October |
| 23:21 | #endmeeting | |
| 23:21 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct - https://koha-community.org/abo[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | kanban is https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]rm-1711/wiki/home | |
| 23:21 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Sep 6 23:21:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 23:21 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-09-06-22.18.html | |
| 23:21 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]7-09-06-22.18.txt | |
| 23:21 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]06-22.18.log.html | |
| 23:21 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | keeps getting better |
| 23:21 | mveron | Brooke++ |
| 23:21 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | Brooke++ |
| 23:22 | greenjimll | Thanks for hosting Brooke! |
| 23:22 | MKuhn | Good night everybody |
| 23:22 | TGoat-KohaGeneralMtg | Peace! |
| 23:22 | georgehwilliams | See you all later |
| 23:22 | mveron | ...and good night / daytime #koha :-) |
| 23:22 | greenjimll | Night night all - time for sleep! |
| 23:23 | Brooke | my pleasure |
| 23:33 | gveranis | cate For the problem I mentioned before meeting , the problem was that those items was in "lost" status . And that cause a problem in ModItem I think |
| 23:33 | when returned | |
| 23:34 | cait1 | hm then it showed the wrong error |
| 23:34 | you might want to file a bug repor tfor that | |
| 23:34 | best with steps on how to recreate the issue | |
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