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| 00:56 | pianohacker | bye all |
| 01:16 | wizzyrea | hi |
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| 01:34 | mtj | i wonder if the Koha BZ could use this... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s[…]?id=bugzilla-spam |
| 01:34 | huginn | 04Bug bugzilla: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
| 01:35 | mtj | ...the eclipse BZ seems to have had some success with it |
| 01:36 | https://github.com/mozilla-bte[…]Spam/Extension.pm | |
| 01:37 | looks like it uses some regexs to block spammy bugs | |
| 01:37 | https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/[…]bug.cgi?id=502814 | |
| 01:37 | huginn | 04Bug 502814: could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
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| 03:14 | AmitGupta | hi all |
| 03:14 | @seen rangi | |
| 03:14 | huginn | AmitGupta: rangi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 7 hours, and 47 seconds ago: <rangi> morning |
| 03:15 | AmitGupta | @seen cait |
| 03:15 | huginn | AmitGupta: cait was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <cait> hi pianohacker :) |
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| 05:20 | AmitGupta | @seen AmitGupta |
| 05:20 | huginn | AmitGupta: AmitGupta was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <AmitGupta> @seen cait |
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| 06:21 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:58 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:38 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | bidet, gaetan_B |
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| 08:16 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 08:48 | Tylathos | hey #koha |
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| 09:19 | magnuse | hiya Tylathos |
| 09:47 | eythian | wahanui: bill's boulder is <reply>http://tragedyseries.tumblr.co[…]154761900?fref=gc |
| 09:47 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
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| 10:12 | cait | spammers ew .( |
| 10:13 | on bugzilla, they are attaching weird code too, setting it all to private/hidden | |
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| 10:21 | cait | morning khall :) |
| 10:21 | khall | mornin! |
| 10:27 | magnuse | hiya khall |
| 10:27 | khall | mornin magnuse! |
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| 11:17 | magnuse | after upgrading to 17.05.02 i have a library reporting that <<reserves.expirationdate>> is no longer showing on printed HOLD_SLIPs. anyone else seen that? |
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| 11:33 | cait | magnuse: look for bugs related to that |
| 11:33 | I think i was involved in a longer discussion about this | |
| 11:34 | afaik we are reusing the date as pikcup-date :( | |
| 11:35 | magnuse | searching for expirationdate did not yield anything relevant, i think |
| 11:35 | cait | i am looking one sec |
| 11:37 | bug 12204 is one | |
| 11:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12204 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , in RESERVESLIP, any 'reserve' field is not being expanded correctly. |
| 11:37 | cait | but that's not the one i was looking for |
| 11:39 | magnuse | looks to me like expirationdate is not included in the list of reserves.* fields returned by sub GetReserveInfo, for some reason: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9c;hb=HEAD#l1243 |
| 11:39 | cait | yes, but kyle noted that woudl b a regression to add it |
| 11:39 | because we use it for something else | |
| 11:39 | see kyle's comment on the bug | |
| 11:40 | and bug 14937 | |
| 11:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14937 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, CLOSED FIXED, Expiration date for holds based onReservesMaxPickUpDelay should not require ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelay |
| 11:41 | cait | hm can't find the third bug I was thinking of |
| 11:42 | bug 12063 | |
| 11:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED FIXED, Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays |
| 11:43 | cait | it's not in the list because supposed to be calculated and inserted in another spot |
| 11:43 | magnuse | uh huh? |
| 11:43 | cait | expirationdate is the date the user gives the item is no longer needed |
| 11:43 | magnuse | but my library says it used to work before the upgrade? |
| 11:44 | cait | but we are... overloading it |
| 11:44 | yeah it might be broken, but you have to look at the code from that last bug | |
| 11:44 | we don't just get it out of db | |
| 11:44 | it is used for the pick-up date | |
| 11:44 | well the date a waiting hold expires | |
| 11:45 | magnuse | in the db i see expirationdate = waitingdate + 1 week |
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| 11:46 | cait | not a good topic for me I guess :) I wanted a separate field |
| 11:47 | but it might be broken as yous aid, the latest changes I know are the third bug | |
| 11:48 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=63095 removed some code from Letters.pm | |
| 11:49 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]69347818ed8ce71a9 | |
| 11:50 | magnuse | wow, looks like a real can of worms... |
| 11:52 | cait | maybe with those changes the first bug would be valid again? |
| 11:52 | as they moved the calculation to Reserves.pm and it changes in the db | |
| 11:53 | then it's just a matter of getting it in the letter from there | |
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| 12:13 | magnuse | cait: but is it correct that reserves.expirationdate is still used for two things: the last date a patron is interested in the hold and the last day the document should be left standing on the "holds to pick up" shelf? |
| 12:13 | cait | that's what I thought, but maybe test it |
| 12:14 | in my theory the date would be switched with the waiting status set - but only if it's after that date | |
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| 12:15 | magnuse | it looks very much like it is the case when i look at the dates in the db |
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| 12:20 | magnuse | stilldon't understand what changed with the upgrade to 17.05.02... |
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| 12:22 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 12:30 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #5: STILL FAILING in 1 min 49 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ob/Koha_Master/5/ |
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| 13:11 | * cait | waves |
| 13:11 | edveal | good day #koha |
| 13:13 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:14 | @seen TGoat | |
| 13:14 | huginn | tcohen: TGoat was last seen in #koha 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <TGoat> @later tell tcohen to please ping TGoat about building a kohadevbox |
| 13:16 | edveal | tcohen it is a bit early for TGoat. Give him an hour or two. |
| 13:19 | oleonard | tcohen: Do you know what will happen if you set up SYNC_REPO on an already-provisioned box? |
| 13:19 | tcohen: Or must you destroy and start over? | |
| 13:19 | tcohen | oleonard: if you vagrant reload |
| 13:19 | it will mount the SYNC_REPO dir | |
| 13:19 | if you just provision | |
| 13:19 | nothing | |
| 13:20 | oleonard | Okay, good to know. CrispyBran was afraid to run vagrant destroy because he thought he'd never get it back again. |
| 13:20 | tcohen | tell him to try having the kohadevbox code up to date |
| 13:21 | * oleonard | wants to be kohadevbox-on-Windows evangelist whenever he can |
| 13:25 | eythian | oleonard: that sounds sisyphean. |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Frustration seems to be the main impediment to getting people up and running, rather than a Windows-specific barrier. |
| 13:26 | ALTHOUGH | |
| 13:26 | wahanui | ALTHOUGH is mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3 |
| 13:26 | oleonard | Upgrading vagrant and VirtualBox cost me two days of work, so... |
| 13:26 | eythian | I feel that maybe frustration is a windows feature. |
| 13:27 | oleonard | :) |
| 13:27 | eythian | "One must remember that Microsoft is not a software company. Microsoft is an abuse company, and software is their means of delivering that abuse." |
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| 13:29 | cait | i have to say kohadevbox can be frustrating on linux too |
| 13:29 | lost a day and a half to version problems and trying to get newer versions to install correctly... and gr. | |
| 13:29 | and one of my boxes still explodes half the time | |
| 13:29 | thankfullly not the rmaint one | |
| 13:30 | * oleonard | has only had a box explode once, and there's no guarantee it wasn't user error |
| 13:32 | tcohen | what you mean *explode*? |
| 13:33 | kohadevbox is just a debian 8 VM with stuff installed on it | |
| 13:33 | oleonard | "explode" is not accurate. |
| 13:33 | I'm being dramatic. | |
| 13:34 | tcohen | you can break what's in it |
| 13:34 | that's the beauty of it, you can recreate with deterministic steps | |
| 13:34 | environmental issues are: | |
| 13:34 | oleonard | What happened to me was that I started getting strange errors from Koha and thought why not start over and upgrade Vagrant and Virtualbox while I'm at it. |
| 13:34 | tcohen | - Virtualbox malfunctioning |
| 13:34 | - Vagrant version + VBox not working correctly | |
| 13:35 | Most of the user-reported issues are networking issues | |
| 13:36 | ('couldn't download X from CPAN', 'apt failed because of DNS issues', etc) | |
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| 13:40 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #6: STILL FAILING in 1 min 26 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ob/Koha_Master/6/ |
| 13:48 | Project Koha_Master build #7: STILL FAILING in 10 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ob/Koha_Master/7/ | |
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| 14:00 | tcohen | cait: I'm interested on helping with any frustrating problem with kohadevbox |
| 14:00 | so, ping me when you have issues | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | tcohen++ |
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| 15:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:20 | cait | bit worried about bug 19101 and bug 18927 - someone more confident with the bash/package commands around to take a look? |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19101 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Zebra rebuild error |
| 15:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18927 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha | |
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| 16:10 | cait | those spammers are very annoying |
| 17:05 | eythian | rangi: http://languagehat.com/morepork/ the only time I've said this: the comments are worth reading |
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| 19:56 | pianohacker | hi! |
| 19:57 | eythian: another languagehat article with excellent comments: http://languagehat.com/solder/ | |
| 20:01 | eythian | pianohacker: heh yeah. No one in their right mind says "sodder" |
| 20:02 | pianohacker | eythian: I once had to stop a really interesting youtube video about soldering techniques halfway through because he pronounced it SOL-der... it's a damn weird word |
| 20:02 | how do you say it? | |
| 20:03 | eythian | Like it's spelt |
| 20:04 | Rhymes with shoulder | |
| 20:05 | pianohacker | huuuuuuh. Is that how it's generally pronounced in NZ/Aus? |
| 20:06 | eythian | Yep. |
| 20:07 | pianohacker | crazy |
| 20:08 | eythian | No, correct ;) |
| 20:08 | As I said, like it's spelt. | |
| 20:12 | * eythian | adds the correct pronounciation of solder to the NZ border entry requirements |
| 20:38 | pianohacker | hehehe |
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