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| 06:24 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:15 | fridolin | hie there |
| 07:15 | * fridolin | feeding 17.05.x |
| 07:16 | fridolin | my little baby is growing ;) |
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| 09:50 | koha | hai |
| 09:50 | i need koha windows version | |
| 09:57 | fridolin | is it a joke =-O |
| 09:57 | wahanui: im i online ? | |
| 09:57 | wahanui | fridolin: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 11:31 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 13:28 | tcohen | morning |
| 13:28 | kidclamp | morning tcohen |
| 13:29 | tcohen | hi kidclamp |
| 13:29 | Joubu: I did some research and couldn't find a way to roll REST api tests data back | |
| 13:30 | (using the provided tools in Test::Mojo) | |
| 13:30 | Joubu | tcohen: the least would be to create a END block to cleanup |
| 13:31 | tcohen | yes |
| 13:31 | there are examples subclassing some Mojo libs and implementing a custom rollback method | |
| 13:31 | which is basically the same | |
| 13:31 | I wonder what people using Mojo are doing | |
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| 13:57 | rangi_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: koha-common : Depends: libconvert-basen-perl but it is not installable Depends: libmodule-bundled-files-perl but it is not installable Depends: libmojolicious-perl (>= 6.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libswagger2-perl (>= 0.59) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 13:57 | any one know, how to remove this error @ koha installation time . | |
| 13:58 | hey | |
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| 14:01 | rangi_ | Any one know about HOW TO REMOVE BELOW MENTIONED ERROR |
| 14:01 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: koha-common : Depends: libconvert-basen-perl but it is not installable Depends: libmodule-bundled-files-perl but it is not installable Depends: libmojolicious-perl (>= 6.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libswagger2-perl (>= 0.59) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | |
| 14:02 | Joubu | yes yes, we received it |
| 14:02 | on which system are you working on? | |
| 14:03 | rangi_ | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS |
| 14:04 | liw | I tend to run "apt install foo" and see what errors it gives me |
| 14:05 | rangi_ | @Joubu There is any issue with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ? |
| 14:05 | huginn | rangi_: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 14:06 | Joubu | I do not think so |
| 14:08 | try `sudo apt update;sudo apt-cache policy koha-common` | |
| 14:12 | rangi_ | koha-common: Installed: (none) Candidate: 16.05.14 Version table: 16.05.14 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ 16.05/main amd64 Packages |
| 14:12 | i got this, as a result | |
| 14:14 | eythian | do you have any help packages? |
| 14:14 | dpkg --get-selections | grep hold | |
| 14:14 | will tell you | |
| 14:14 | *held packages | |
| 14:15 | rangi_ | I got blank as a result now |
| 14:15 | eythian | OK. |
| 14:15 | try, as liw suggested, 'sudo apt install koha-common' | |
| 14:15 | it might give more info | |
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| 14:16 | liw | apt is very clever about error messages, but sometimes assumes its user is as clever as the PhDs who wrote apt, which means us mortals are sometimes mystified |
| 14:16 | rangi_ | it give me same above mentioned error |
| 14:17 | eythian | hmm, perhaps try with aptitude instead, sometimes it can be smarter. |
| 14:17 | it can also find broken packages and give you options to fix them | |
| 14:18 | rangi_ | Aptitude is also not working for me |
| 14:18 | eythian | why? |
| 14:18 | rangi_ | I dont know |
| 14:18 | After running aptitude , it show none error . | |
| 14:19 | eythian | then...it worked? |
| 14:19 | like, what did it do? | |
| 14:19 | rangi_ | but it does not install koha |
| 14:19 | on my system\ | |
| 14:19 | eythian | what did it do? |
| 14:21 | rangi_ | I dont know |
| 14:21 | eythian | did it turn your computer off? |
| 14:21 | rangi_ | no |
| 14:21 | eythian | which would be weird, but otherwise you should be able to see something |
| 14:23 | rangi_ | Now it shows me this error |
| 14:23 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libmojolicious-perl : Depends: libjs-prettify which is a virtual package. koha-common : Depends: libconvert-basen-perl which is a virtual package. Depends: libmodule-bundled-files-perl which is a virtual package. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Keep the following packages at their current version: 1) koha-common [Not Installed] 2) libjs | |
| 14:24 | eythian | put the whole thing into the pastebin |
| 14:28 | I suspect the options that it's giving you that I can't see are what you want | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | isn't 14.04 based on wheeze? it might be incompatible |
| 14:29 | eythian | that's possible |
| 14:29 | it's not in the supported OS list: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 14:30 | tcohen | it is possible that Mojolicious version we ship isn't compatible |
| 14:31 | eythian | it was removed from the list on the 6th of Dec. So it's probably that. |
| 14:32 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tall_the_Database <-- also, someone needs to tidy this section. It's not very nice and is unclear. | |
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| 20:01 | reiveune | bye |
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| 20:43 | pianohacker | shalom |
| 20:45 | TGoat | WTH! pianohacker :) |
| 20:46 | pianohacker | well hi TGoat :) |
| 20:46 | edveal | hey you two! |
| 20:46 | pianohacker | hi edveal! |
| 20:46 | TGoat | howdy sir! edveal no way! :) |
| 20:47 | edveal | old home week. LOL |
| 20:47 | TGoat | Right on :D |
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| 20:47 | edveal | And JoshB runs away! |
| 20:47 | TGoat | heh |
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| 20:50 | pianohacker | I hope people show up... I have exciting things to discuss |
| 20:52 | TGoat | show up pianohacker ? |
| 20:52 | pianohacker | to the dev meeting in 8 minutes :) |
| 20:53 | TGoat | ahhh |
| 20:53 | I'll put that in the BWS channel | |
| 20:54 | edveal | I will lurk since I am not doing much any more. But would love to get plugged in somewhare. I need to go back to bug testing. |
| 20:56 | Joubu | pianohacker: Hi! :) Good to see you here |
| 20:57 | pianohacker: could you add your topic to the agenda please? | |
| 20:57 | pianohacker: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_12_July_2017 | |
| 20:57 | you did! | |
| 20:57 | pianohacker | hi Joubu! already did under general development discussion |
| 20:57 | jinx | |
| 21:00 | Joubu | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017 |
| 21:00 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jul 12 21:00:08 2017 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:00 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_12_july_2017' |
| 21:00 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 21:00 | wahanui | #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
| 21:00 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:00 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 21:00 | pianohacker | #info Jesse Weaver |
| 21:02 | Joubu | exciting |
| 21:02 | pianohacker | no kidding |
| 21:02 | Joubu | rangi, bag, barton: around? |
| 21:02 | TGoat | I'll try to get them |
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| 21:03 | barton | Joubu: Just barely -- I need to prep for a talk at my Linux User Group meeting tonight. |
| 21:03 | TGoat | I let them knoiw they're being requested to the #Koha channel |
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| 21:03 | Joubu | #topic Announcements |
| 21:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:03 | barton | but I'll hang out while prepping :-) |
| 21:03 | Joubu | #info I am going to share the result of the poll beginning of next week. |
| 21:04 | #info Next "what's on in koha-devel" email should be ready soon | |
| 21:04 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 21:04 | Joubu | I will certainly complain a lot, no need to complain here... |
| 21:04 | caboose-afk | #info Michael Cabus, Princeton, NJ |
| 21:04 | Joubu | Not a lot of attendees and I guess nobody read the IRC log (if you do, send me an email :)) |
| 21:04 | anyone else? | |
| 21:05 | #topic Update from the Release Manager (17.11) | |
| 21:05 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (17.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:05 | Joubu | #info Few refactoring patches have been pushed this week. It highlighted a problem with item type, I sent an email to koha-devel to get feedback |
| 21:05 | #info I also sent an email today about the MySQL AI behaviours that caused us lot of trouble. Review and test the procedures on the wiki page please. There is also a patch on the bug report for the alert message on the about page (bug 18931) | |
| 21:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18931 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a "data corrupted" section on the about page |
| 21:06 | Joubu | skipping updates from Rmains and QAers... |
| 21:06 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 21:06 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:06 | Joubu | pianohacker: your turn to monologue |
| 21:07 | pianohacker | all right |
| 21:07 | I've been starting work on reviving bug 15522 | |
| 21:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, ASSIGNED , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 21:08 | caboose-afk | nice I've been wanting that |
| 21:08 | pianohacker | As part of that, I would very much like to use React, but there have issues with pulling React into our frontend; I have an idea that might help with some of them |
| 21:08 | #link https://github.com/pianohacker[…]8cae202379f11940a | |
| 21:08 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, BWS |
| 21:08 | pianohacker | the above is a very very minimal proof of concept |
| 21:09 | caboose-afk | nice |
| 21:09 | pianohacker | but the basic idea is a) to use prebundled versions of React, so we don't need to add a JS package manager |
| 21:09 | and b) to show React code without ES6 or JSX | |
| 21:09 | the commit above directly brings in prebundled packages from unpkg.com, but these could easily be added to the Koha source tree instead | |
| 21:10 | Joubu | #info pianohacker is working on reviving bug 15522 (revamp circ rules) |
| 21:10 | pianohacker | I would very much like feedback on the above; I think it's a low-friction, minimal-change way to bring in a nicer UI framework |
| 21:10 | caboose-afk | I'd be on board for feedback |
| 21:11 | thd | Will there be a graceful fallback for noscript? |
| 21:11 | pianohacker | excellent :) |
| 21:11 | Joubu | pianohacker: personnaly I am more wondering "what" instead of "how". The mockup image you put on the wiki is no longer available |
| 21:11 | and IIRC there were concerns about the UI | |
| 21:12 | pianohacker | thd: this interface would strongly depend on JS, but the old interface could perhaps be preserved? |
| 21:12 | Joubu | before starting the tt part it would be great to show people (to get feedback and ideas) what you are doing |
| 21:12 | caboose-afk | I've been rethinking that interface..if that UI doc is gone I can get together what I was thinking |
| 21:12 | Joubu | that will be a good way to interest them and so find testers easily (maybe...) |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | Joubu: oh, absolutely; that needs some work, though, and I want to figure out this piece as well |
| 21:13 | Joubu | the staff interface does not work without JS, it's completely out of the discussion here |
| 21:13 | pianohacker | I'll be posting an updated wireframe soon for feedback |
| 21:13 | caboose-afk | nice |
| 21:14 | pianohacker | long story short; the UI needs to be discussed, but for now I would like to know if this is a viable way to bring in React. Not much of a quorum here; do we send this to the mailing list? |
| 21:14 | Joubu | pianohacker: I think we (core team) more or less agreed on React at the last KohaCon in Marseille, so I do not think it will be an issue |
| 21:15 | prove us and show us how nice it is, and I am sure we will follow you ;) | |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | okay, cool :) will do |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | pianohacker! |
| 21:15 | wahanui | regexes are AWESOME |
| 21:15 | Joubu | keep in mind 1. release early and 2. small steps :) |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | I was also curious about bug 15395, but that can wait until later |
| 21:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow correct handling of plural translation |
| 21:15 | pianohacker | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | sorry I see you and I get excited :) |
| 21:16 | Joubu | I would send an email to the general list with the mockup and more generally with what you have in mind (ergonomic) |
| 21:16 | and 1 the koha-devel with the commits and testable code | |
| 21:16 | to* | |
| 21:17 | pianohacker: what is the questions about 15395? | |
| 21:18 | pianohacker | I'll probably just put together a super-bare-bones React version, so both the general UI and the underlying code can be examined |
| 21:18 | Joubu: whether it's likely to move forward, and anything that can be done to help it along | |
| 21:19 | Joubu | you can let a note and/or ask the QA team to take a look |
| 21:19 | pianohacker | kk will do |
| 21:20 | that's all from me | |
| 21:20 | Joubu | thanks |
| 21:20 | anybody else? | |
| 21:20 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 21:20 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 12 July 2017) | |
| 21:21 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: July 26, 14 UTC |
| 21:21 | #endmeeting | |
| 21:21 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct - https://koha-community.org/abo[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | kanban is https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]rm-1711/wiki/home | |
| 21:21 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jul 12 21:21:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 21:21 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-07-12-21.00.html | |
| 21:21 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]7-07-12-21.00.txt | |
| 21:21 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]12-21.00.log.html | |
| 21:21 | pianohacker | thanks for chairing, Joubu |
| 21:35 | ttfn | |
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| 22:26 | mtompset | Shoot. I missed the meeting, didn't I? |
| 22:27 | Greetings, #koha. | |
| 22:28 | wizzyrea | hi mtompset |
| 22:29 | mtompset | Greetings, wizzyrea |
| 22:30 | Silly me wanted to bring up patches related to remote DBs. | |
| 22:30 | DOH! | |
| 22:30 | Missed my chance. :( | |
| 22:35 | Interesting perspective in this article: http://knowledgequest.aasl.org[…]everything-wrong/ | |
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| 22:57 | supermini | cool url http://fej2mxjpdn4aqm5l.onion/closable-retrain |
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| 23:02 | wizzyrea | I saw that "doing everything wrong" article the other day |
| 23:02 | my instinct was "if you are serving your population, you are doing it very right" | |
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