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| 01:01 | paul-kohacon17 | 3 patches signed off ! | 
| 01:02 | wizzyrea | \o/ NICE | 
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| 01:51 | mtompset | There... ANOTHER koha-create patch submitted. | 
| 01:51 | @seen Joubu | |
| 01:51 | huginn | mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 4 hours, 21 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: * Joubu is afk for ~10days, take care #koha | 
| 01:51 | mtompset | @seen tcohen | 
| 01:51 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <tcohen> @wunder cordoba argentina | 
| 01:51 | mtompset | @seen tcohen1 | 
| 01:51 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen1 was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <tcohen1> Joubu++ | 
| 01:51 | wizzyrea | mtompset, which bug? | 
| 01:51 | mtompset | bug 9409 | 
| 01:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9409 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create --request-db should be able to accept a dbhost option | 
| 01:52 | mtompset | bug 18564 | 
| 01:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18564 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , koha-common.cnf parsing is too restrictive | 
| 01:52 | wizzyrea | oh, yes approval | 
| 01:52 | would also like to see separate vhost files for opac and intranet instead of one file | |
| 01:53 | and fixing enable/disable/koha-plack to do the right things with that setup | |
| 01:53 | mtompset | that's beyond the scope of my issues right now. | 
| 01:53 | wizzyrea | :) | 
| 01:53 | mtompset | I'm attempting to dockerize Koha, and these bugs make it easier to automate nicely. | 
| 01:53 | wizzyrea | Ahhh | 
| 01:56 | mtompset | Oh and bug 14533 | 
| 01:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14533 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , koha-create --use-db option shouldn't create any db or db user | 
| 01:56 | wizzyrea | yes, I approve of all of those things | 
| 01:56 | (that's a thing I do quite often, create a Koha that uses an external server) | |
| 01:57 | mtompset | instance:user:pass:dbname:host <--- 9409 :) | 
| 01:59 | And I'm itching for issue #200 to get pushed to the kohadevbox. | |
| 02:00 | I've got jessie, xenial, and stretch coming up smoothly. | |
| 02:01 | wizzyrea | \o/ | 
| 02:01 | that is good work | |
| 02:01 | mtompset++ | |
| 02:01 | mtompset | Thanks, but it seems I've hit the horrid QA bottleneck. :( | 
| 02:02 | wizzyrea | as you do | 
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| 02:02 | mtompset | No fault of the QA team... just not enough people. :( | 
| 02:18 | Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea paul-kohacon17 | |
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| 05:53 | * magnuse | waves | 
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| 06:07 | cait | good morning #koha! | 
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| 06:10 | marcelr | hi #koha | 
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| 06:13 | magnuse | hiya cait and marcelr | 
| 06:13 | marcelr | hi magnuse, cait | 
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| 06:15 | fridolin | hie there | 
| 06:15 | * fridolin | release day for 17.05.01 | 
| 06:16 | magnuse | \o/ | 
| 06:18 | cait++ for the idea of putting the docs tools into kohadevbox | |
| 06:18 | cait | born out of frustration... had some trouble making it work last night | 
| 06:18 | :) | |
| 06:18 | works now thankfully :) | |
| 06:19 | magnuse | is gitlab the official home of the docs= | 
| 06:19 | s/=/?/ | |
| 06:22 | cait | i just asked rangi the same :) but we encourage to use it for making contributions | 
| 06:24 | sphinx is quite cool, I am still learning, but i generated the html and epub version yesterday form the source files | |
| 06:24 | lots to do tho | |
| 06:25 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual | |
| 06:25 | https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/KohaManualTodo < started a to-do list | |
| 06:30 | marcelr++ | |
| 06:31 | magnuse | yeah, i tried generating epub and there were some errors in the source that i *think* caused some chapters to be shorter than they really are | 
| 06:32 | great to see an academic library in denmark using koha! | |
| 06:37 | cait | dtu++ | 
| 06:38 | magnuse | dtu++ | 
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| 07:04 | reiveune | hello | 
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| 07:04 | drojf | hi #koha | 
| 07:09 | eythian | Hi | 
| 07:09 | drojf | hi eythian | 
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| 07:19 | * cait | waves | 
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| 07:19 | cait | morning paul_p | 
| 07:20 | paul_p | hello cait. Not really morning in Manila ;-) | 
| 07:20 | cait good morning to you though | |
| 07:20 | cait | waht time is it? | 
| 07:22 | drojf | hi cait and paul_p | 
| 07:22 | paul_p | cait 3:30PM | 
| 07:22 | drojf | cait: it's UTC+8, ours +6 | 
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| 07:23 | cait | drojf: math? at this temperatures? | 
| 07:23 | we didn't see a drop of rain here yesterday... | |
| 07:23 | drojf | hmm. are the default libraries and categories gone completely with the new onboarding tool? or did i miss something? | 
| 07:23 | cait: i looked it up yesterday | |
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| 07:24 | cait | drojf: i think there sould be a link to an advanced mode or something like that | 
| 07:24 | i only tested it early on | |
| 07:24 | but you shoudl still be able to go into the usual installer process | |
| 07:24 | drojf: you shoudl check out the manual :) | |
| 07:24 | drojf | ok. would have made more sense for the test install | 
| 07:24 | yes is hould | |
| 07:24 | cait | wb paul_p | 
| 07:24 | drojf | should | 
| 07:25 | cait | paul_p: are you still hackfesting? | 
| 07:25 | drojf | a shame i have used it for thje first time now ;) | 
| 07:25 | anyway i git a 17.05 on stretch and it seems fine | |
| 07:25 | not that i expected anything else at this point | |
| 07:25 | cait | did you experience any problems witht he web installer? | 
| 07:25 | drojf | no | 
| 07:25 | cait | hm | 
| 07:25 | drojf | should i? | 
| 07:26 | cait | some sample data, but you didn't install those | 
| 07:26 | paul_p | cait nope, it's finished. I'm waiting for the driver that will bring me back to airport (in half an hour) | 
| 07:26 | drojf | i said yes to all sample data. but maybe that is irrelevant if you then use the onboarding tool | 
| 07:26 | a bit odd | |
| 07:26 | cait | drojf: somoene had a problem completing the web installer a few days ago | 
| 07:26 | i wonder now if it was a mysql problem maybe | |
| 07:26 | drojf | stretch has mariadb | 
| 07:27 | cait | can't find the bug he filed now of course | 
| 07:27 | drojf | we should ditch mysql as recommendation and change all docs to maria | 
| 07:27 | cait | bug 18836 | 
| 07:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18836 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron login is erroring out after failing to find table | 
| 07:27 | drojf | that does not mean we should not fix the mysql bugs ;) | 
| 07:27 | cait | could you comment that it worked for you? | 
| 07:27 | drojf | but we will have mariadb as default in newer debian and as workaround in ubuntu since 16.04 | 
| 07:28 | cait | yeah, but this is a first time installation | 
| 07:28 | drojf | i'll do another instance and try to avoid the onboarding tool | 
| 07:29 | cait | missing db tables | 
| 07:29 | maybe you could take a quick look if you got the missing one in yours? | |
| 07:29 | club_enrollments | |
| 07:29 | drojf | did they say what os they are using? | 
| 07:29 | ok sec | |
| 07:30 | cait | i think on irc maybe, but not on the bug report | 
| 07:30 | drojf | MariaDB [koha_koha]> describe club_enrollments; | 
| 07:30 | +----------------+-------------+------+-----+---------------------+----------------+ | |
| 07:30 | | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | | |
| 07:30 | +----------------+-------------+------+-----+---------------------+----------------+ | |
| 07:30 | | id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment | | |
| 07:30 | | club_id | int(11) | NO | MUL | NULL | | | |
| 07:30 | | borrowernumber | int(11) | NO | MUL | NULL | | | |
| 07:30 | | date_enrolled | timestamp | NO | | CURRENT_TIMESTAMP | | | |
| 07:30 | | date_canceled | timestamp | YES | | NULL | | | |
| 07:30 | | date_created | timestamp | NO | | 0000-00-00 00:00:00 | | | |
| 07:30 | | date_updated | timestamp | YES | | NULL | | | |
| 07:30 | | branchcode | varchar(10) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | |
| 07:30 | +----------------+-------------+------+-----+---------------------+----------------+ | |
| 07:30 | 8 rows in set (0.00 sec) | |
| 07:30 | oh sorry | |
| 07:30 | table is there | |
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| 07:36 | drojf | sample data does not get imported for me | 
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| 07:36 | cait | that's a known bug | 
| 07:36 | drojf | i stopped before the onboarding too, no user categories or anything | 
| 07:36 | cait | should be gone in 17.05.01 | 
| 07:36 | drojf | ah | 
| 07:36 | ok | |
| 07:36 | cait | bug 18741 | 
| 07:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18741 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Web installer does not load default data | 
| 07:36 | cait | one line fix i think | 
| 07:37 | drojf | ok then my testing is done ;) | 
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| 08:14 | Tylathos | Hey #koha | 
| 08:17 | * cait | waves | 
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| 08:41 | Infra_3600 | koha koha scheibu scheibu | 
| 08:46 | cait | looking for 'edit the manual' testers/authors - please let me know if you have time to try it | 
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| 09:13 | fridolin | cait: hie | 
| 09:13 | im writing release post on WP | |
| 09:14 | cait | cool :) | 
| 09:14 | fridolin | but there is no release > 17.05 category | 
| 09:14 | who can create it ? | |
| 09:14 | cait | hm liz i think | 
| 09:15 | i don't have my password | |
| 09:15 | to check | |
| 09:15 | maybe jsut leave it out and leave her a later? | |
| 09:15 | fridolin | yep | 
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| 09:44 | cait | fridolin++ | 
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| 10:05 | magnuse | fridolin++ | 
| 10:08 | fridolin | thanks | 
| 10:20 | magnuse | too bad koha.dk isn't used for koha stuff any longer | 
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| 10:42 | drojf | fridolin++ | 
| 10:42 | package done too | |
| 10:49 | fridolin | yop super | 
| 10:49 | magnuse | drojf++ | 
| 10:50 | the big question then: do we consider 17.05.01 stable enough for use in production? | |
| 10:51 | drojf | that's for the bug reports to decide ;) | 
| 10:52 | fridolin | magnuse: gloups, i cant be sure | 
| 10:52 | I'd say wait a bit | |
| 10:52 | and also because of translation | |
| 10:52 | whe usually start with release .05 or .06 | |
| 10:54 | * magnuse | has upgraded to .01 for most of the majoer releases | 
| 10:54 | magnuse | most of my libraries are small and use only the core functionality | 
| 10:54 | but yeah, might be better to put it off until after my holiday in july | |
| 10:54 | drojf | unless a library is waiting for new features, i would not rush it. since we had the problems with hourly loans i am cautious. before i considered .1 or .2 ok | 
| 10:56 | i have one that needs new stuff, they'll get a 01 to test their workflows now | |
| 10:56 | maybe .02 in production if it works for them | |
| 10:57 | magnuse | very cautious :-) | 
| 11:03 | drojf | "someone" should check what is with the failing nightly master | 
| 11:04 | * ashimema | will ask atheia to take a look when he gets a moment | 
| 11:04 | ashimema | think Joubu has just gone on hols | 
| 11:04 | if atheia doesn't get to it I'll take a look | |
| 11:04 | drojf | ashimema: i mean my automated packages | 
| 11:05 | * ashimema | is knee deep in code right now | 
| 11:05 | ashimema | ah.. your packages | 
| 11:05 | can't help so much there ;) | |
| 11:05 | drojf | i think one is a missing dep | 
| 11:05 | the other, not sure, i just saw that when building 17.05.01 too | |
| 11:07 | missing Test/DBIx/Class.pm | |
| 11:07 | and DBI connect('database=koha;host=localhost;port=3306','kohaadmin',...) failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1487. | |
| 11:08 | mysql appears to be running | |
| 11:11 | magnuse | @seen Joubu | 
| 11:11 | huginn | magnuse: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 13 hours, 41 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: * Joubu is afk for ~10days, take care #koha | 
| 11:11 | magnuse | come on, qa-team, fill the PQA queue while he is gone! | 
| 11:14 | drojf | is the qa team busy and/or too small? i thought we had quite a few people | 
| 11:15 | looks like rangi worked on libtest-dbix-class-perl in the past but it is deleted on alioth | |
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| 11:34 | oleonard | Hi all | 
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| 11:40 | CJSHayward | Not sure if my last message got eaten by a bug. I've run an "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade" after the dot release was announced. I'm running into database issues both trying to upgrade an (incomplete) system I was trying to finish, and a fresh installation from scratch. | 
| 11:40 | Should I file a bug, or is this an issue people are aware of. | |
| 11:41 | eythian | CJSHayward: you'll have to pastebin your issues so people can check :) | 
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| 11:43 | CJSHayward | eythian: I've gotten a couple of errors; the one I'm working onnow is at http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21 | 
| 11:43 | eythian | heh, that's a useless error message, someone needs to improve the diagnostics on that... | 
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| 11:50 | CJSHayward | I started a fresh install to capture errors; I got http://paste.koha-community.org/473 at practically the beginning of webmin interface setup. | 
| 11:51 | drojf | CJSHayward: what is your OS? | 
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| 12:05 | CJSHayward | @drojf Mint VM (under VirtualBox on OSX) | 
| 12:05 | huginn | CJSHayward: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready | 
| 12:05 | CJSHayward | Thanks so much! | 
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| 12:08 | * LeeJ | waves | 
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| 12:30 | CJSHayward | Posted an earful of error messages from aptitude trying to configure koha-common: http://paste.koha-community.org/474 | 
| 12:33 | LeeJ | what in the world... | 
| 12:35 | CJSHayward | I'd like to try to wipe all traces of Koha and reinstall from a fresh start besides package repository configuration, and beginning from installing the koha-common package. Does this make sense, and if so, what should I do to purge all traces of the installation? | 
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| 12:36 | cait | sorry, my laptop died while I was afk - if you sent me a message and got no answer please resent | 
| 12:37 | LeeJ | hmm...well the command "koha-remove" is supposed to remove an instance of Koha. I am not sure if it does or does not remove all traces | 
| 12:37 | * LeeJ | waves to cait | 
| 12:37 | * cait | waves to LeeJ | 
| 12:37 | * magnuse | waves to cait and LeeJ | 
| 12:37 | cait | LeeJ: can I interest you in signing up for a manuel editing test drive? :) | 
| 12:37 | LeeJ | cait: I got your message...and yes of course :) | 
| 12:37 | * magnuse | tries to remember how to make sure zebra is up and running on a dev install | 
| 12:38 | LeeJ | cait and magnuse...CJSHayward asked about how to purge all traces of a Koha installation | 
| 12:38 | does koha-remove do that? Or just the specific instance? | |
| 12:38 | cait | hm just the instance i think | 
| 12:38 | i am not sure how clean you can get it | |
| 12:38 | magnuse | koha-remove removes one instance | 
| 12:39 | * magnuse | neither | 
| 12:39 | magnuse | use apt-get to uninstall | 
| 12:39 | LeeJ | it's actually a good question I think | 
| 12:39 | magnuse | something like "sudo apt-get purge koha-common" | 
| 12:40 | LeeJ | interesting.. | 
| 12:40 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad | 
| 12:40 | LeeJ | that always does that lol | 
| 12:41 | I know just the person who would love to test that command to see how well it works lol | |
| 12:42 | @later tell mtompset here's a challenge for you..install Koha then try to remove it with apt without touching the rest of the system :) something like "sudo apt-get purge koha-common" | |
| 12:42 | huginn | LeeJ: The operation succeeded. | 
| 12:43 | cait | heh | 
| 12:44 | LeeJ | cait: I'll test out the documentation shortly..so for the System Preferences it's just the usual format listing the pref and its options right? | 
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| 12:44 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. | 
| 12:44 | LeeJ | mtompset: speak of the devil :) | 
| 12:44 | cait | LeeJ: whatever you want and think is usefulr really | 
| 12:45 | mtompset | I just got your @later. | 
| 12:45 | cait | i think the documentation should go a bit beyond the mere description as in the gui | 
| 12:45 | to add more value | |
| 12:45 | LeeJ | cait: okay! I'm excited because I've been curious about the documentation generation :) | 
| 12:45 | mtompset | LeeJ: Nope. Not going to try, because -- I know it fails. :) | 
| 12:45 | cait | unless it's really totally clear what it oes :) | 
| 12:45 | LeeJ | magnuse: well there's your answer on the purge command :) | 
| 12:46 | magnuse | got it :-) | 
| 12:46 | LeeJ | mtompset: I figured if anyone would have tried wacky scenarios it would be you :) | 
| 12:46 | mtompset | It leaves all those /var/lock log lib ... koha directories lying around sometimes. | 
| 12:46 | LeeJ | mtompset: perhaps not wacky..just creative :) | 
| 12:47 | mtompset | Not creative... Normal stupid stuff libraries would do. | 
| 12:47 | LeeJ | mtompset: CSJHayward had been in here and asked about it. Actually I think you would find one of his tests interesting | 
| 12:47 | mtompset | and if there's a failure, then you might end up with the db still existing, the user still existing, etc. | 
| 12:48 | magnuse | "Normal stupid stuff libraries would do" = marc, sip2, z39.50, iso2709 = wacky | 
| 12:48 | LeeJ | mtompset: this was the log from trying to install on Mint http://paste.koha-community.org/474 it's unusual | 
| 12:48 | mtompset | No no... wackying is trying to do a tarball installation under Debian. | 
| 12:49 | * LeeJ | cringes at the thought of tarball | 
| 12:49 | mtompset | no no.. worse, trying to do a 17.05 install on Ubuntu 12.04 ;) | 
| 12:49 | no no.. worse, trying to do a 17.05 tarball install on Ubuntu 12.04 ;) | |
| 12:49 | LeeJ | O.O | 
| 12:49 | mtompset | But they found some google instruction on how to do it, and it doesn't work. :P | 
| 12:50 | LeeJ | but of course! :P | 
| 12:50 | mtompset | This is why I do not like blogs with instructions. | 
| 12:50 | They NEVER update. | |
| 12:50 | And then users try really dumb stuff. | |
| 12:50 | LeeJ | they are unfortunately of the "set it and forget it" mentality | 
| 12:51 | mtompset | Why do you think I visit the koha on ubuntu packages page each release? | 
| 12:51 | cait | there is an open bug about his intallation problem | 
| 12:51 | s | |
| 12:51 | if you know what's wrong - maybe comment? | |
| 12:51 | mtompset | bug number? | 
| 12:51 | cait | looking | 
| 12:53 | bug 18836 | |
| 12:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18836 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Patron login is erroring out after failing to find table | 
| 12:55 | mtompset | Ah, the one I didn't want to get sucked into for free. :) | 
| 12:56 | Mint 18?! | |
| 12:56 | I've never tried a Mint install. | |
| 12:56 | LeeJ | nor have I | 
| 12:57 | cait | ruling out it's a but, we can suggest t move onto the mailing list | 
| 12:59 | * mtompset | starts up a torrent download of Mint 18. | 
| 12:59 | mtompset | BTW, he hadn't mentioned Mint 18 yesterday. | 
| 13:00 | LeeJ | mtompset: I'm not surprised you considered it a challenge haha | 
| 13:00 | mtompset | LeeJ: You have to try the stupid stuff people do to see why it is stupid. | 
| 13:01 | LeeJ | mtompset: stuff like that is not hard to find :) | 
| 13:01 | mtompset | I don't get why people aren't using Debian and then choosing a GUI. | 
| 13:01 | LeeJ | amateurs lol | 
| 13:01 | mtompset | It's less likely to fail, and only frowned on because a server shouldn't be running a GUI. | 
| 13:01 | drojf | mint probably has mysql 5.7 | 
| 13:01 | mtompset | It does. | 
| 13:01 | drojf | problem solved | 
| 13:01 | mtompset | (from what he seems to say) | 
| 13:01 | drojf | well, kind of :P | 
| 13:02 | mtompset | Probably. | 
| 13:02 | But I have an idea. | |
| 13:02 | oleonard | Ubuntu's inclusion of non-free stuff solves a lot of hardware compatibility problems, significant if people are talking about, for instance, laptops for development | 
| 13:03 | (not relevant if we're talking about a Koha server running Mint of course) | |
| 13:03 | mtompset | But oleonard -- He's running Virtual Box. Hardware compatibility isn't an issue. | 
| 13:03 | LeeJ | I see that KohaCon's Hackfest went well last night..quite a few sign offs and such :) | 
| 13:03 | * oleonard | hasn't kept up with the entire conversation | 
| 13:04 | * LeeJ | waves to oleonard | 
| 13:04 | LeeJ | you're not missing much lol | 
| 13:04 | we were talking about 18836 | |
| 13:07 | * cait | wonders what kind of deity she is | 
| 13:07 | cait | don't they all have a main 'topic'? | 
| 13:07 | superpowers? | |
| 13:07 | should have used [off] | |
| 13:07 | hehe | |
| 13:08 | :) | |
| 13:11 | if the weather tool would still work... i could show you all that it's really too hot to think here... | |
| 13:11 | 32 °C | |
| 13:12 | drojf | there is no weather without a weather bot | 
| 13:12 | mtompset | drojf: Does that mean it is both hot and cold until we actually observe it? ;) | 
| 13:12 | oleonard | When I look at the sky I see a featureless void that is neither light nor dark | 
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| 13:13 | mtompset | oleonard: I'm sorry you have been sucked into the realm of pixels, where only CSS rules supreme. ;) | 
| 13:14 | LeeJ | it's pleasant here for the first time in a few days..been mostly around 26-32˚C this week (I converted it to celsius to be metric-friendly :) | 
| 13:14 | mtompset | That's still too hot for my likely. | 
| 13:14 | 23 is the perfect temperature. | |
| 13:15 | LeeJ | mtompset but that's the world that oleonard lives in all the time isn't it? | 
| 13:15 | mtompset | -- thinks I need more caffeine. | 
| 13:15 | featureless voids have no temperature. :P | |
| 13:16 | * LeeJ | bows to oleonard as he sits on his curly bracket-shaped throne | 
| 13:16 | oleonard | In the realm of no weather temperature has no meaning. Your skin crawls with the craving for input | 
| 13:16 | * mtompset | shouts, "Johnny 5 is alive!" | 
| 13:16 | LeeJ | cait: looking through the gitlab now :) | 
| 13:16 | * mtompset | wishes he had a faster internet connection. | 
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| 13:20 | tcohen | morning | 
| 13:20 | * LeeJ | waves to tcohen | 
| 13:22 | magnuse | have a nice weekend, #koha! | 
| 13:22 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen | 
| 13:23 | eythian | cait: it's a balmy 20° here. I think it's still recovering after yesterday's massive thunderstorm. | 
| 13:23 | * LeeJ | will be able to do Farenheit to Celsius conversions in his head someday.. | 
| 13:25 | * eythian | assumes LeeJ is in Belize. | 
| 13:25 | LeeJ | eythian: nope! USA haha | 
| 13:25 | some would consider that even worse haha | |
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| 13:26 | mtompset | I find it funny. I remember when room temperature was 20, and now it is supposedly 22. | 
| 13:26 | Climate change! ;) | |
| 13:26 | cait | eythian: north of germany got a lot of thunderstorms... but none here | 
| 13:27 | eythian | mtompset: yeah, in NZ I was used to it being 18°. Now I'm feeling chilly if I have my heating set below 22. | 
| 13:27 | mtompset | Glad I have torrent download link, LeeJ. Mint 18 had issues,and I had to restart the torrent download... :) | 
| 13:27 | LeeJ | mtompset oooooh sounds like an exciting day :) | 
| 13:27 | eythian | cait: we had it come straight through. We stood at the window watching lightning bolts come down and shake the windows. | 
| 13:28 | LeeJ | cait: so this looks like it's going to be fun once I get used to the syntax and workflow | 
| 13:28 | oleonard | Okay so we have a little bit of weather here: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#s/14982244930133 | 
| 13:29 | cait | eythian: i'd like a good thunderstorm here.... | 
| 13:29 | LeeJ: thiking the same :) | |
| 13:29 | i can merge your change, just let me know - or if there are any questions | |
| 13:29 | mtompset | cait: Had that last night here. | 
| 13:30 | cait | also if you spot mistakes on the wiki page etc | 
| 13:31 | LeeJ | cait: when I clicked Edit it said "You're not allowed to edit files in this project directly. Please fork this project, make your changes there, and submit a merge request." Is this correct and I should make a fork? | 
| 13:31 | cait | hm can you screenshot? | 
| 13:31 | LeeJ | sure..one moment :) | 
| 13:31 | cait | it did only look like that the first time and then I couldn't get back there | 
| 13:32 | you want a fork, but I want to upate the wiki so it's more clear | |
| 13:32 | LeeJ | just need to reinstall gyazo :) | 
| 13:32 | certainly! | |
| 13:34 | cait: https://gyazo.com/286fa7bba9b4[…]b49bb22838a3681e1 | |
| 13:34 | cait | Fork! | 
| 13:34 | :) | |
| 13:34 | * LeeJ | salutes | 
| 13:34 | LeeJ | aye aye | 
| 13:35 | cait: if you want, I can screen capture for everything if it would be helpful | |
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| 13:35 | LeeJ | cait: like this! https://gyazo.com/f4468294356c[…]8b8ae5dcec413efc3 | 
| 13:35 | cait | it might be, just not sure where we can store it | 
| 13:36 | ah, just multiple screens | |
| 13:36 | might be good for the manual later | |
| 13:36 | i noticed there actually is a chapter about contributing to it | |
| 13:36 | but haven't looked inside yet :) | |
| 13:36 | (noticed yesterday) | |
| 13:37 | LeeJ | interesting! | 
| 13:37 | wahanui | i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad | 
| 13:37 | LeeJ | why does that do that every time...I can't help I use that word often lol | 
| 13:38 | cait | what happened? | 
| 13:40 | oleonard | cait: wahanui said a thing | 
| 13:41 | cait | LeeJ: it's trained to do that | 
| 13:42 | you could make wahanui forget with forget <keyword> | |
| 13:42 | but ... not sure if that is ethically correct :) | |
| 13:42 | oleonard | wahanui: Forget your family | 
| 13:42 | wahanui | oleonard, I didn't have anything matching your family | 
| 13:42 | oleonard | You sure don't. | 
| 13:43 | eythian | wahanui is not a kidnapper, oleonard. | 
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| 13:43 | * oleonard | remains suspicious | 
| 13:45 | mtompset | wahanui? | 
| 13:45 | wahanui | yes, mtompset? | 
| 13:45 | mtompset | wahanui is? | 
| 13:45 | eythian: You didn't programme the bot to say it isn't a kidnapper? ;) | |
| 13:45 | oleonard | If wahanui could tell us something about himself would that make him sentient? | 
| 13:46 | mtompset | oooo.... 49 seconds. | 
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| 13:54 | cait | LeeJ: still alive? | 
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| 13:55 | LeeJ | cait: mhm! Trying some documentation..had to find prefs that weren't already included! :) | 
| 13:56 | eythian | wahanui: be wahanui | 
| 13:56 | wahanui | Look at me! I'm a bot! Beep beep! Boop boop! | 
| 13:56 | LeeJ | cait: am I correct that changes won't carry over from say 16.11 to 17.05's documentation? | 
| 13:57 | cait | not right now now | 
| 13:57 | totally different format | |
| 13:58 | LeeJ | I figured..just wanted to check! :) | 
| 13:59 | pastebot | "CJSHayward" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Permissioning error after migrating to MariaDB" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/475 | 
| 14:00 | CJSHayward | Hello; I wanted to give an update. I've replaced my MySQL installation with MariaDB, and have an unaltered database <config> section (besides changing the username and password). It's reporting denied access: but I can log in to the command line server with "mysql -uroot -p" without incident. | 
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| 14:09 | LeeJ_testing | cait: does spacing vs. tabs matter? | 
| 14:09 | cait | hm good question | 
| 14:09 | i don't know | |
| 14:09 | i'd stick with spaces | |
| 14:09 | oleonard | Because after all we're not cave people. | 
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| 14:12 | LeeJ_testing | cait: okay! I'm about to commit my first change! :) | 
| 14:12 | cait | yay :) | 
| 14:12 | drojf | https://stackoverflow.blog/201[…]e-money-use-tabs/ | 
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| 14:13 | oleonard | Cha-ching! | 
| 14:15 | LeeJ_testing | cait: merge request submittied! Hopefully I did it right! | 
| 14:15 | cait | will check in a moment! | 
| 14:15 | LeeJ_testing | drojf: I heard about that before! | 
| 14:15 | cait: I'm excited! | |
| 14:17 | CJSHayward | I'm having a MariaDB difficulty. "mysql -uroot -p" as root works with any password. No password is accepted, even after I tried to set one specific password, from the command line. What can I do so "mysql -uroot -p" will work with the set password from the command line? | 
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| 14:19 | LeeJ_testing | cait: I think I made an oopsie..got an email that my pipeline has failed | 
| 14:19 | cait | oh | 
| 14:19 | you switched to 16.11 i think | |
| 14:19 | not changing the right branch | |
| 14:21 | LeeJ_testing | cait: I was following the framapad and it says that the syspref was added in 16.11..so that's what I tried to do :( | 
| 14:21 | cait | you want to leave master | 
| 14:21 | hm let me see if we can try again | |
| 14:21 | LeeJ_testing | I believed I did.. | 
| 14:22 | cait | we are putting everything in master now | 
| 14:22 | it says manual16.11.x for me | |
| 14:22 | where it shoudl say master | |
| 14:22 | LeeJ_testing | ooooh | 
| 14:22 | whoops! | |
| 14:23 | that would definitely be a problem! haha | |
| 14:23 | cait | can you try if you can change it from your side? | 
| 14:23 | i am not seeing how to do it right now in the gitlab interface | |
| 14:23 | LeeJ_testing | sure..I'll poke around | 
| 14:24 | cait: can't seem to find where it allows me to change it in the merge request..I'll just close the request and start over...I copied my change to Notepad anyway :) | |
| 14:25 | cait | sorry! | 
| 14:25 | LeeJ_testing | cait: nevermind! Found it! when you're on the page for the merge request, clicking "Edit" lets you change the target | 
| 14:25 | cait | should note to leave master on the notes | 
| 14:25 | drojf | have a nice weekend #koha | 
| 14:28 | LeeJ_testing | so just so I'm sure to understand it correctly, my merge should have been to the master branch as the target yes? | 
| 14:32 | cait: I think I answered my own question..since it clearly lists in the wiki that 17.05 and back are a different format :) | |
| 14:32 | cait | yes master | 
| 14:32 | it should preselect that, so you should not have to change anything | |
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| 14:43 | LeeJ_testing | cait: okay! Let's try this again! LOL | 
| 14:43 | cait | ok | 
| 14:44 | seeing it! | |
| 14:44 | aaah | |
| 14:44 | ok | |
| 14:44 | i think another mistake i am sorry | |
| 14:44 | or not sure... | |
| 14:44 | @ldjamison changed target branch from manual16.11.x to master less than a minute ago | |
| 14:45 | looks better now but still says tehre is a merge conflict | |
| 14:45 | LeeJ_testing | cait: starting from scratch then :) | 
| 14:45 | cait | hm sorry, let me check something | 
| 14:45 | when you are here https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]vs-users/kohadocs | |
| 14:45 | make sure that the branch on top is master | |
| 14:46 | before you startt editing | |
| 14:47 | LeeJ_testing | cait: I am now :) | 
| 14:49 | cait: requested! | |
| 14:50 | cait | ok one sec | 
| 14:50 | ready to be merged... good sign! | |
| 14:50 | just taking a look at your change now | |
| 14:50 | LeeJ_testing | yayyy!!! | 
| 14:51 | I only added one syspref to make sure I had the procedure right before working on larger ones :) | |
| 14:51 | cait | reads well! | 
| 14:51 | merging | |
| 14:51 | LeeJ_testing | yay!! | 
| 14:52 | cait | it will not show up in the manual immedaitely | 
| 14:52 | LeeJ_testing | no worries! | 
| 14:52 | cait | but if you want to see you can followthe instructions on the gitlab start page for the project | 
| 14:52 | it's pretty cool | |
| 14:52 | it's still merging, but looking good | |
| 14:53 | LeeJ_testing | so will the merge request close automatically when it's done? | 
| 14:56 | answered my own question :) | |
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| 15:01 | cait | yep all happens automatically | 
| 15:01 | once you get it down it should be a quick process | |
| 15:04 | mtompset | Meeting done. | 
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| 15:09 | reiveune | bye | 
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| 15:10 | cait | LeeJ++ thx a lot! | 
| 15:10 | bbl | |
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| 15:22 | mtompset | @seen tcohen | 
| 15:22 | huginn | mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <tcohen> morning | 
| 15:23 | mtompset | You still around? | 
| 15:23 | tcohen | heading to the doctor | 
| 15:23 | I didn't manage to test your PR because of debian's local mirror issues | |
| 15:23 | will try in a couple hours at home | |
| 15:24 | I don't like the IF [ANSIBLE > 2.1] { something } else { nothing } | |
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| 15:24 | tcohen | and the problem with JSON::Validator should be fixed by pushing the OpenAPI bug | 
| 15:24 | but overall, it looks good to me | |
| 15:25 | CJSHayward | How do you set MariaDB's permissions so an unprivileged e.g "mysql -uroot -p" will work with the password set with SET PASSWORD? | 
| 15:27 | mtompset | tcohen: I agree it will eventually get fixed, but even once fixed, the patch shouldn't break. | 
| 15:27 | and yes, I don't like the if myself either, but I wanted something that worked. | |
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| 15:29 | tcohen | mtompset, what I meant about the if | 
| 15:29 | is that it looks like | |
| 15:29 | you want to make adding the repo conditional to currently available | |
| 15:29 | so it should be like | |
| 15:30 | if (available ansible < 2.1) { add special repo } ; install ansible | |
| 15:30 | mtompset | I'm not familiar with ansible. The idea was install the default repo version and upgrade it if it is too low. | 
| 15:30 | tcohen | i assume you are adding that only because stretch contains a new enough ansible | 
| 15:31 | exactly | |
| 15:31 | mtompset | Right | 
| 15:31 | feel to tweak it cleaner. | |
| 15:31 | tcohen | so you need to move the apt install ansible outside the if | 
| 15:31 | mtompset | feel free to tweak it cleaner. | 
| 15:31 | can't. | |
| 15:31 | because if the install fails, the install as a whole fails. | |
| 15:32 | there was a ordering issue. | |
| 15:32 | can't remember what exactly. | |
| 15:32 | I'll let you try to tweak it nicer, so you understand and/or improve it. :) | |
| 15:32 | tcohen | ok <.< | 
| 15:41 | mtompset | Oh shucks! | 
| 15:41 | Just when I was going to tell him how he installed it wrong. | |
| 15:42 | I successfully installed Koha on Linux Mint 18. | |
| 15:42 | LeeJ_lunch | nice! | 
| 15:43 | mtompset | Key steps being install and configure the mailer (exim4) and mariadb-server BEFORE installing koha-common. | 
| 15:43 | ubuntu instructions? | |
| 15:43 | wahanui | ubuntu instructions are at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu | 
| 15:44 | mtompset | ubuntu package instructions? | 
| 15:44 | ubuntu install? | |
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| 15:44 | mtompset | Basically just followed https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages | 
| 15:44 | obviously ignore the mysql-server step. | |
| 15:45 | no mysql server tweak. | |
| 15:45 | no port configuration | |
| 15:45 | tweak the hosts file as described. | |
| 15:45 | use firefox on the mintbox. | |
| 15:46 | no lynx necessary, did web install in firefox | |
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| 16:17 | oleonard | Is biblioitems.totalissues considered to be accurate? | 
| 16:21 | Hm I guess not in our case, at least, since it's empty for all our records | |
| 16:23 | Given a report which returns a list of items, is there an efficient way to include a total issue count for each item? Without crushing MySQL? | |
| 16:27 | LeeJ | hmm... | 
| 16:27 | oleonard I'll try something and see if it works | |
| 16:32 | * oleonard | got something which seems to work | 
| 16:33 | LeeJ | oleonard I was working on a report against the statistics table that might work if your solution doesn't | 
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| 16:36 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Authors and titles by collection code" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/476 | 
| 16:38 | * cait | waves | 
| 16:38 | * LeeJ | waves to cait | 
| 16:38 | cait | my favourite person today - LeeJ :D | 
| 16:39 | LeeJ | cait++ for being an awesome documentation teacher :) | 
| 16:39 | cait | didn't do much really | 
| 16:39 | thx for test driving :) | |
| 16:39 | LeeJ | cait: my pleasure! I love to learn :) | 
| 16:40 | cait | happy to have you around :) | 
| 16:40 | I am still learning myself about the manual process | |
| 16:40 | but i hope we can get things moving and we will keep adding to it | |
| 16:41 | LeeJ | happy to be around and be involved :) | 
| 16:43 | cait | :) | 
| 16:43 | can we clone you? heh | |
| 16:44 | i could use 20 more manual writers :) | |
| 16:47 | hm wanted to send you a screenshot of your addition in the generated entry | |
| 16:47 | but my screenshot upload thing is broken... have to fix that first | |
| 16:49 | LeeJ | oleonard your report looks good to me but can I make a suggestion for readability? It might be useful to add "ORDER BY count DESC" to group everything nicely :) | 
| 16:50 | oleonard | That's not the order we need | 
| 16:51 | LeeJ | haha my bad..I got my lines mixed up! | 
| 16:51 | meant to say "GROUP BY biblio.title" | |
| 16:52 | if my thinking is correct, that should group nicely | |
| 16:54 | oleonard | That'd work if I could also get a count of the grouped titles and a count of their items | 
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| 16:57 | LeeJ | I wonder why totalissues isn't accurate though... | 
| 16:58 | oleonard: so apparently there's a totalissues cron job? | |
| 17:01 | cait | so who else wants to do some manual writing? :) | 
| 17:03 | liw | I recomment manual writing to everyone. It's how I got rich and famous. </motivational-speech> | 
| 17:04 | cait | sounds awesome! | 
| 17:04 | thx for the support liw! | |
| 17:06 | LeeJ | cait: I took the liberty of marking "(added)" next to each syspref in the framapad to indicate which prefs in the list are already on master | 
| 17:06 | well..started to mark :P | |
| 17:06 | cait | thx! | 
| 17:06 | so we might not be missing as many as i thought initially, that's good too | |
| 17:07 | was not sure when nengard stopped | |
| 17:07 | LeeJ | we got this! | 
| 17:07 | * LeeJ | high fives cait | 
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| 17:09 | cait | *high five* | 
| 17:09 | LeeJ | :D | 
| 17:11 | cait | :) | 
| 17:13 | LeeJ | oleonard I think I figured out the totalissues mystery..it appears that /misc/cronjobs/update_totalissues.pl is a manual cronjob..it appears this is what populates that biblioitems.totalissues value :) | 
| 17:15 | cait | there is apref | 
| 17:15 | that decides if it's done on checkout or should be scheduled by a cronjob | |
| 17:15 | for performance reasons | |
| 17:15 | LeeJ | oooh | 
| 17:15 | the more you know haha | |
| 17:15 | * LeeJ | gets intimidated sometimes with the number of sysprefs available | 
| 17:21 | mtompset | LeeJ_bbs: syspref everything! ;) I agree... LOTS of system preferences, and frequently they interact and sometimes the interaction isn't always documented well. | 
| 17:25 | cait | we can work on the documentation part :) | 
| 17:26 | mtompset | cait: True! :) | 
| 17:27 | cait | mtompset: do you want to hav ea go at manual writing? :) | 
| 17:28 | i have lots of sysprefs to document heh | |
| 17:28 | mtompset | Sadly, as a programmer, I can assure you my documentation skills are not the calibre that is needed. | 
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| 17:35 | mtompset | cait: not to mention, I'm tweaked the Ubuntu instructions right now so people install mariadb. | 
| 17:35 | tweaking. | |
| 17:35 | Doing a test run first. | |
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| 17:41 | LeeJ_bbs | cait: since there aren't many bugs I can really work on currently (can't work on ES bugs until the repo gets fixed) I think I'll take a week or so and hammer out some documentation | 
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| 17:43 | LeeJ | cait: perhaps on the framapad it might be a good idea for us to mark next to the syspref something like (in progress) while we work on it so that we don't dupe efforts? | 
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| 17:49 | mtompset | Wow! Onboarding worked nicely in lynx, oleonard! | 
| 17:50 | oleonard | Excellent | 
| 17:52 | mtompset | That was my first attempt at it with lynx. | 
| 17:53 | Had to follow the instructions closely to make sure others could succeed. | |
| 17:53 | LeeJ | mtompset link? | 
| 17:54 | mtompset | packages? | 
| 17:54 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | 
| 17:54 | mtompset | Nope... ubuntu packages? | 
| 17:54 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages | |
| 17:56 | Need to add in comment about installing MTA and perhaps a wiki page that points to https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 and https://myaccount.google.com/apppasswords | |
| 17:56 | Because Xenial doesn't install an MTA by default either. | |
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| 17:58 | * eythian | has started appreciating ansible playbooks more and more for deploying complex software. | 
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| 17:59 | eythian | Building from scratch a new nextcloud server with web and db hooked up was about an hour or so. | 
| 18:00 | A good portion of which was the semi manual process of sorting out letsencrypt. The other was the playbook not supporting stretch until I figured how to fix and upstream that. | |
| 18:04 | cait | LeeJ: I was thiking about writing the name - but both is fine with me! | 
| 18:05 | mtompset | eythian: nextcloud server? Not related to Koha? Or would this be related to kohadevbox issue 200? | 
| 18:05 | cait | LeeJ: gogogo :) | 
| 18:05 | talljoy: around? | |
| 18:05 | talljoy | yup | 
| 18:06 | what's up? | |
| 18:08 | cait | someone mentioned you might be interested in manual writing :) | 
| 18:09 | talljoy | i have done some. i had been trying to get the gitlab thing working | 
| 18:09 | eythian | mtompset: not related at all, except it was a very convenient way to install one and hook it up to my backup system in a way that I can reproduce. | 
| 18:09 | cait | talljoy: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual i wrote up some instructions here | 
| 18:09 | looking for feedback and 'test drivers' | |
| 18:10 | talljoy | i can test drive! | 
| 18:10 | LeeJ | talljoy vroom vroom! :D | 
| 18:10 | talljoy | ha | 
| 18:12 | cait | talljoy: i know we are still missing stuff, but hope to grow it | 
| 18:12 | (the instructions) but the manual too | |
| 18:15 | talljoy | very nice. your gitlab steps sound so easy. i'm sure i made it way more complicated when i did it. heh | 
| 18:16 | i'm happy to find something to update and test it out. | |
| 18:16 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: don't forget to mention about that kanban page with the framapad! ;) | 
| 18:16 | cait | it's supposed to sound easy :P | 
| 18:16 | have to lure them in | |
| 18:16 | talljoy | offer cookies! | 
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| 18:16 | cait | hehe yes, there is a taiga task too and the framamad with ideas about what needs updating | 
| 18:16 | this week's menu is updating system preferences | |
| 18:16 | come and grab some! we are going to run out soon! | |
| 18:17 | talljoy: will try to figure out a command line base dworkflow too for those who prefer that | |
| 18:18 | talljoy | i excited to get more eyes on it. more voices too | 
| 18:18 | cait | yep | 
| 18:18 | and also close all the gaps | |
| 18:18 | or at least try to | |
| 18:18 | not sure if command line gitlab merge is possible... have to research | |
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| 18:26 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: suggestion..perhaps we should consider creating a "Documentation on how to document" (i.e. a style guide) in the future so everyone can follow the same format. Unless something like that is already made which would make me oblivious :) | 
| 18:26 | cait | i am not sure if there is somehtin gin the manual about it | 
| 18:27 | i don't have a complete overview yet (wonder if i will ever) | |
| 18:27 | i have tried to add some sections to the wiki page | |
| 18:27 | like use geneder neutral pronouns, capitalization | |
| 18:27 | so yep, like the idea | |
| 18:27 | not sure what else to add right now | |
| 18:29 | LeeJ_documenting: please feel free to change/fix the wiki page too when you want to add something | |
| 18:30 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: okay! I just like to run stuff by you because you're the boss :) haha | 
| 18:30 | cait | nah not really :) | 
| 18:30 | LeeJ_documenting | close enough! :D | 
| 18:30 | cait | but you can run stuff by here always of course :) | 
| 18:30 | rangi came up with most of it, including the giltlab workflow | |
| 18:31 | i am just trying to write everything down | |
| 18:31 | rangi## | |
| 18:31 | rangi++ | |
| 18:36 | LeeJ_documenting | what HASN'T rangi done?! | 
| 18:36 | rangi++ for being a force of nature :D | |
| 18:37 | cait: almost done with the article requests sysprefs :) | |
| 18:37 | cait | wow! cool | 
| 18:37 | i am trying to figure out a workflow using command line... not sure how far i will get | |
| 18:39 | LeeJ_documenting | I love poking around with stuff so I'm curious how that would work :) | 
| 18:39 | cait | it seems you might have to use an extra tool to make it possible to create a merge request from command line | 
| 18:39 | so just trying to do it with a push to your branch and then the web interface for now | |
| 18:40 | will see if that makes sense/works soon i hope :) | |
| 18:41 | LeeJ_documenting | let me know if you need help testing and I'll do what I can :) | 
| 18:42 | cait: merge request sent :) | |
| 18:46 | cait: just realized I left extra spacing before the section..but I can clean that up on the next request :) | |
| 18:47 | cait | ok | 
| 18:47 | do you want to add it right away? or have me merge it first? | |
| 18:47 | has someone seen this before? | |
| 18:47 | my kohadevbox is not ocming up | |
| 18:47 | Timed out while waiting for the machine to boot. This means that | |
| 18:47 | Vagrant was unable to communicate with the guest machine within | |
| 18:47 | the configured ("config.vm.boot_timeout" value) time period. | |
| 18:47 | LeeJ_documenting | I'd say do the merge since it's already submitted and I'll just include it | 
| 18:48 | might have to run a provision perhaps | |
| 18:48 | mtompset may suggest otherwise | |
| 18:50 | cait | merging now :) | 
| 18:51 | LeeJ_documenting | yay! | 
| 18:51 | how does it look? | |
| 18:51 | cait | will chekc in a moment | 
| 18:52 | LeeJ_documenting | okay | 
| 18:53 | cait | hm still trouble with the kohadevbox :( | 
| 18:54 | LeeJ_documenting | I believe the last time I had that problem I halted then upped and it worked | 
| 18:54 | cait | looking good | 
| 18:55 | LeeJ_documenting | nice :) | 
| 18:55 | this will probably be the rest of my night after work! haha | |
| 18:59 | * LeeJ_documenting | slinks away to work more | 
| 18:59 | cait | if you have a devbox or linux i recommend following the steps on the start page of the repo for adding your own repo | 
| 18:59 | then you can test as much as you want :) | |
| 18:59 | it's really quite easy | |
| 18:59 | clone the rpeo | |
| 18:59 | LeeJ_documenting | I have devbox myself :) | 
| 18:59 | cait | install sphinx | 
| 18:59 | and then run make html :) | |
| 19:00 | or make epub (very exciting) | |
| 19:00 | LeeJ_documenting | huh | 
| 19:00 | that's cool | |
| 19:00 | cait | i tried it last night for the first time - it's nice | 
| 19:06 | as my kohadevbox is on strike | |
| 19:06 | RenewalLog - is that appearing after issuelog or where? | |
| 19:09 | ooh, looking like it's back alive | |
| 19:10 | LeeJ_documenting | yay for working devboxes! haha | 
| 19:14 | cait | yep :) | 
| 19:14 | it was after LettersLog :) | |
| 19:22 | mtompset | LeeJ_documenting: Sorry, wasn't paying attention. Too busy with other things. | 
| 19:22 | LeeJ_documenting | mtompset all good! | 
| 19:27 | tcohen | cait: what is needed for kohadocs on kohadevbox? | 
| 19:28 | only python sphynx? | |
| 19:44 | cait | tcohen: check the notes on the startpage on gitlab | 
| 19:44 | it has all it needs | |
| 19:46 | tcohen | kohadocs? | 
| 19:52 | cait | yes | 
| 19:53 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]vs-users/kohadocs | |
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| 20:00 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: you'll have a much larger merge coming your way in a few minutes :) | 
| 20:01 | cait | ok! | 
| 20:01 | shoud i start filling up the to do list some more? :) | |
| 20:01 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: I think that might be a good idea because I'll probably be done with the sysprefs by tomorrow :) | 
| 20:01 | cait | alright :) | 
| 20:02 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: once I get the format down I can fly through tasks :) | 
| 20:02 | cait | yeah still struggling there a little too | 
| 20:02 | liw | LeeJ_documenting++ | 
| 20:02 | cait | but i think it will be eaiser in a bit | 
| 20:02 | CJSHayward | I started over on a previously Koha-free VM and got a familiar error: http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21 | 
| 20:02 | liw | cait++ | 
| 20:02 | koha++ | |
| 20:03 | cait | CJSHayward: did you install mariadb instad of mysql now? | 
| 20:03 | CJSHayward | Yes; I started by installing mariadb first | 
| 20:04 | cait | hm | 
| 20:04 | i thought that should have fixed it | |
| 20:04 | mtompset: still around? | |
| 20:04 | CJSHayward is the one installing on Mint, I think you gave it a try ealrier? | |
| 20:05 | CJSHayward | Let me backtrack and try again. I thought I tried to install mariadb and it was already there, but I'm not getting an 'i' in aptitude search mariadb. I owe it to myself and you to try to nail that down first. | 
| 20:05 | cait | i ofund some references to that kind of bug | 
| 20:06 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=10459#c55 | |
| 20:06 | huginn | 04Bug 10459: minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, borrowers should have a timestamp | 
| 20:06 | cait | i tihnk mysql has a problem with the date | 
| 20:07 | but anyway - using mariadb is necessary and will avoid other issus | |
| 20:25 | hm ok | |
| 20:26 | there is also a workflow now on the wiki with using a local repo | |
| 20:26 | probably could be refined a bit | |
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| 20:31 | cait | LeeJ_documenting: working on the todo list a bit :) | 
| 20:32 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: okay! I'll be heading out momentarily but I'll hop on when I get home :) | 
| 20:32 | cait | :) | 
| 20:32 | i guess that's the moment then to wish you a nice weekend! | |
| 20:32 | LeeJ_documenting | will have another 7 sysprefs to merge in about 2 minutes :) | 
| 20:37 | cait: merge requested! | |
| 20:37 | cait | :) | 
| 20:37 | reading! | |
| 20:38 | LeeJ_documenting | cait: and now I'm out! take care all! | 
| 20:38 | cait | bye LeeJ | 
| 20:38 | LeeJ++ | |
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| 21:43 | CJSHayward | I'm observing behavior from MariaDB that I don't understand. As root, "mysql -uroot -p" prompts for a password and accepts any password. As an unprivileged user, no password I've tried is accepted. The database koha_library exists, but it's empty of tables. | 
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