IRC log for #koha, 2017-06-19

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02:11 wizzyrea hi
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03:13 minnalyne Hello, I was able to successfully install Koha on a server. However, when I continue to follow the tutorials on the web, I do not have the default information. Namely, frameworks, Item Types, Authorized Values. Did I miss a step? I run the stable main option today. Thank your for your advice.
03:15 wizzyrea hi, when you installed Koha did you install the sample data for those things?
03:15 if you don't, you'll need to add them yourself, that stuff is all under "Administration"
03:15 installing the default frameworks is slightly more involved.
03:16 not the default frameworks, the sample frameworks
03:16 minnalyne Yes, I checked all boxes then Import
03:17 wizzyrea hm.
03:17 ah, that's a bug
03:17 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18741
03:17 huginn 04Bug 18741: critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Web installer does not load default data
03:18 wizzyrea so it's not your fault
03:18 but, it will be released in the next update
03:18 which really, should be in the next few days
03:19 i mean the fix will be released in the next few days
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03:20 minnalyne Ok, I'll wait then.
03:20 Is it a stable release? Or do I have to patch it on the web client?
03:20 wizzyrea rangi what day do the minors usually come out?
03:20 23rd?
03:20 (ish)
03:21 you'd do an apt-get upgrade koha-common
03:21 rangi supposed to be every 22nd
03:21 wizzyrea so yeah not long for the 17.05.01 release, in theory
03:22 rangi but unless they rerun the webinstaller it wont catch it anyway eh?
03:22 wizzyrea yep
03:22 minnalyne ok, cool.
03:23 wizzyrea when you've got the update, you'll need/want to remove your instance, and start with a new instance, so you can get all the sample data installed.
03:24 or create a new instance alongside the old one. how you handle that is up to you, depending on what you've got in your current instance.
03:24 minnalyne understood. thank you for clearing it up.
03:45 do you think it's the same thing with 'null' values in Citation in Manage Staged Marc21 records?
03:58 wizzyrea Hm, that one I'm not sure about, usually whatever is in the records comes through
03:58 so possibly it's not in your records
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06:30 fridolin hie there
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06:46 drojf hi #koha
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06:48 marcelr hi #koha
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06:50 reiveune hello
06:50 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:56 alex_a bonjour
06:56 wahanui bidet, alex_a
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09:00 eythian http://www.parool.nl/amsterdam[…]-graden~a4501523/ <-- 😱
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11:51 * cait waves
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12:01 * magnuse waves to cait alex_a and khall
12:01 alex_a \o
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12:01 caboose hello cait and manguse!
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12:02 cait hi caboose and magnuse!
12:02 magnuse hiya caboose and kellym and marcelr
12:02 marcelr hi magnuse
12:02 wahanui kamelåså
12:03 magnuse \o/
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12:03 * magnuse wishes there was more koha in denmark
12:04 cait whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe.
12:04 we shoud fix that
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12:11 khall mornin!
12:12 cait mornin khall!
12:14 caboose howdy barton, khall!
12:15 barton morning caboose!
12:20 * cait wonders how to translate onboarding tool into German
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12:45 Nemo_bis caboose: Kran :P
12:46 caboose :)
12:46 ha ha
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13:15 tcohen morning
13:15 cait hi tcohen :)
13:15 tcohen hi cait :-D
13:16 cait did you get my email? :)
13:17 tcohen I did =D
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13:49 * LeeJ waves
13:49 LeeJ morning all
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13:50 LeeJ cait: that OpenLibrarySearch bug is strange...and makes no sense
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13:51 cait huh
13:51 but it means it's broken for you too?
13:51 we found it stepping through release notes, not sure how it should look like
13:53 LeeJ cait: yes! I even ran reset_all and restart_all on kohadevbox and it happened
13:55 cait: my first thought was it could be a square or curly bracket being left out but they all seem to match up..not sure where to check from there LOL
13:57 cait mabe the json/xml or whatever structure they return changed?
13:57 because if you click on the link it does return results
13:57 but Koha doesn't seem able to parse them correctly :(
13:59 LeeJ which version did you test it on? your stable one? I tested it on master a few minutes ago and it happened.
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14:28 cait LeeJ: it displayed?
14:29 i tested on master and on 16.11
14:29 could you install german templates and compare?
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14:29 LeeJ cait: clarification..."it happened" == "the json error happened" :P
14:31 cait ah!
14:31 yeah rean into it on 16.11 then cnfirmed on master before filing the bug
14:37 hm
14:38 i can only change the permissions for adding7editing my shared private lists when i allow users to create public lists...
14:38 that doesn't make sense
14:49 LeeJ that's odd
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15:24 tcohen Joubu++
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15:49 cait Joubu++
16:05 reiveune bye
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16:11 LeeJ Joubu: one of the attachments (58685) to Bug 17864 has an incorrect bug number in the subject..made note of it in the signoff comment. How should it be handled if at all?
16:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages
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16:58 Joubu LeeJ: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=17864#c5
16:59 huginn 04Bug 17864: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , Increase test coverage on admin pages
16:59 Joubu bug number in the commit message is ok
17:00 cait looks like LeeJ fixed it :)
17:00 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]58685&action=edit
17:00 was wrong
17:03 Joubu k
17:03 cait: on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Getting_involved, there is a link to Documenting_Koha, should it be https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_the_Koha_Manual?
17:04 (red link)
17:04 cait i was torn about moving one or changing the other
17:04 maybe easier to just change it to editing hte manual?
17:04 Joubu: I'dlike to fix bug 18817 tonight
17:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18817 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Screenshots not appearing in the manual linked to the Help tab
17:04 cait are you ok with changing to koha-community.org/documentation?
17:05 was the solution rangi suggested when i talked to him this morning
17:06 i mean change the getting involved page
17:06 Joubu ok for renaming the page on the getting involved, I will do it
17:07 about the manual, I think it would be better to have manual.k-c.org to point to k-c.org/manual, or the reverse
17:07 but now we have 2 links and 1 is broken
17:08 cait i am not sure who can access it
17:11 Joubu tcohen: do you know who hosts manual.k-c.org? (not listed on the wiki)
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17:22 ___ Print ticket from the user when booking at KOHA, ideas please thanks
17:43 tcohen ___: on the patron (the user) page, there's a nice 'Print' button
17:43 Joubu: you should ask wizzyrea
17:43 * tcohen passes the ball fast haha
17:44 Joubu tcohen: apparently rangi does not know
17:44 tcohen it certaintly just redirects to the community site
17:46 and it just contains (wrong) links to the 3.2 version
17:46 http://manual.koha-community.org/3.2/en/
17:47 &copy; 2010-2011 Koha Library Software Community
17:47 whois manual.koha-community.org
17:47 oops
17:48 Joubu: ByWater
17:48 http://toolbar.netcraft.com/si[…]oha-community.org
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18:00 cait khall: do you have access to manual.koha-community.org?
18:00 khall cait, afraid not.
18:00 larryb would though
18:00 cait ah
18:01 just trying to figure out how to best fix links to the koha manual
18:01 khall I left him a later to have him shut down that server. is that what should be done?
18:01 cait might be best
18:01 not sure if we could redirect to koha-community.org/manual?
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18:03 cait who could do the redirect once the server is gone?
18:03 khall I'll ping him about hat too
18:04 cait thx khall!
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18:25 tcohen khall: we should change the DNS and do the redirect (maybe) on the same koha-community.org server
18:25 khall good thought
18:25 * talljoy feels like she kicked a hornet's nest
18:25 tcohen no point having a whole server for a redirect =D
18:25 khall who controls that server? bws?
18:26 I mean the DNS records
18:28 Joubu nope I think it's rangi
18:33 cait talljoy: nope you didn't - we should relaly fix that!
18:34 just haven't figured it out quite yet... and before changing all the help files i'd like to have a plan :)
18:34 talljoy me too.
18:34 :D
18:34 * talljoy didn't want to fix 212 files
18:37 LeeJ can anyone explain what t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is used for? It appears that t/db_dependent/Circulation/issues.t covers all the tests that it tries to do..
18:37 Joubu talljoy: it can certainly be scripted easily
18:39 LeeJ: it looks useless
18:40 LeeJ Joubu: I would strongly agree. It appears to be a half-baked attempt at what issues.t tests. Perhaps I should just add a patch to Bug 18797 that removes it?
18:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is skipping
18:41 Joubu I would need to deep a bit more to make sure the test exists somewhere else
18:41 but if you did and confirm, yes it's the way to go
18:42 LeeJ I'll look around myself..it appears to be testing 24- and 48-hour loans? I honestly can't even find a solid definition of what a "rolling loan" is to be honest
18:43 it would be nice if all the test files had authors listed so I could just ask :P
18:45 Joubu git log t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t will give you the author list
18:45 cait LeeJ: if you browse the git repository
18:45 ah
18:45 or that :)
18:45 LeeJ oooh
18:45 cait i often use the web version for that - navigate to the file and look at the history
18:46 LeeJ it would help if I noticed the history button on every file, huh? ;)
18:49 it appears rangi co-committed it :)
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19:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab9535b2677462446> / Bug 18697: Final polishing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7de2cc79ff463013b> / Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h=
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21:04 rangi Joubu: merged your dashboard changes
21:04 Joubu whaou, quick :)
21:10 cait1 oh something new?
21:11 rangi not noticable
21:13 just in the background
21:14 cait1 ok
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21:16 rangi oops your url got messed up in that email joubu
21:16 cait1: the email explains it
21:16 barton hey #koha, I just escalated the severity of Bug 18242
21:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18242 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Move of checkouts to old_issues is not handled correctly
21:17 Joubu how did I do that... :-/
21:17 barton oops, hold on, wrong bug number.
21:17 I just escalated Bug 18428
21:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18428 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , move of holds to old_reserves is not handled correctly.
21:18 rangi lets not rush that
21:18 like we did with issues
21:18 cait thx rangi, just spotted it on the mailinglist
21:18 rangi because the 'fix' was so so so so so much worse than the bug
21:18 barton which is the same situation in reserves tat we were having with issue id.
21:18 rangi yeah lets not do what we did with issues
21:18 cos currently returns/checkins are broken
21:18 cait :(
21:19 rangi because of that fix
21:20 Joubu rangi: no it was not
21:20 without the first fix, there was data lost
21:20 with the first fix: you cannot checkin, but the circ history is not lost!
21:20 rangi yeah well if you cant return anything
21:20 thats worse
21:20 Joubu now we need the second fix
21:21 rangi there was sometimes data lost, in some libraries, now, no one can return a book, try explaining that to your patrons
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21:21 rangi so lets fix it properly, rather than in a hurry and make it worse again
21:22 Joubu I would explain them that the fix has been provided 2 hours after it has been detected
21:22 rangi yes
21:22 Joubu and now is waiting for people to care
21:22 rangi thats fine, lets not repeat that
21:22 barton rangi: I think the right place to fix this is in the mysql init file.
21:22 ... we fix the problem on server startup, then we don't have to worry about it.
21:24 rangi thats not so hard for debian
21:24 there is a /etc/mysql/conf.d/
21:24 wahanui Hmm.  No matches for that, rangi.
21:24 barton by 'fix the problem' I mean set the auto_increment for issues and reserves.
21:25 rangi and my.cnf does includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
21:25 so you can put a koha.cnf in there
21:25 and it will be used
21:25 and not overwritten by mysql upgrades
21:25 barton excellent. We should probably do the same thing for the deleted* tables.
21:25 eythian @wunder ams
21:25 huginn eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
21:26 wizzyrea i think the wunderground plugin is broken :(
21:26 eythian I think so
21:26 wizzyrea also hi
21:26 eythian Hi
21:26 It's 28° inside at the moment.
21:26 wizzyrea that's too warm
21:26 eythian I'm melting here
21:27 cait I feel with you, it's too warm here too
21:27 eythian Officially a heat wave.
21:27 Joubu I do not find where we talked about that change in the mysql conf, but we did already
21:28 rangi also, everyone should probably be patching all their stuff and rebooting about now
21:28 https://www.qualys.com/2017/06[…]h/stack-clash.txt
21:31 im going to reboot the bugs server soon
21:31 eythian Good thing it's a local attack, and there isn't, say, an exim exploit to take advantage of it. Oh wait.
21:32 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #204: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/204/
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18806: Fix batch revert
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: Fix tests www/batch.t
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18807: t/db_dependent/www/batch.t fails
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Extend GetNextDate.t, add GetFictiveIssueNumber.t (unit=year)
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18356: Fix date calculations for yearly frequencies in Serials
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials
21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18806 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot revert a batch
21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18607: Adjusting unit tests for monthly serial frequencies
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculations for weekly frequencies in Serials
21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18807 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , www/batch.t is failing
21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for weekly serial frequencies
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Fix date calculation for dayly frequencies in Serials
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Adjusting unit tests for dayly serial frequencies
21:32 * jonathan.druart: Bug 18697: Final polishing
21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18356 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Prediction pattern wrong, skips years, for some year based frequencies
21:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18607 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for monthly frequencies in Serials
21:32 jenkins * jonathan.druart: Bug 18582 - Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view
21:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix date calculations for day/week frequencies in Serials
21:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18582 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide empty rows in detailed suggestion view
21:33 rangi heh
21:33 https://security-tracker.debia[…]/CVE-2017-1000369
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21:35 rangi https://security-tracker.debia[…]/CVE-2017-1000369
21:35 hmm why did i paste that url twice
21:35 https://security-tracker.debia[…]/CVE-2017-1000366
21:35 is the one i meant
21:36 so yeah, fun and games
21:38 wizzyrea where fun is not fun and games is pretty much torture.
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22:46 Joubu @later tell mtompset you are not supposed to signoff the patches where I added the "Academy" kw, it was for KohaCon17 hackfest...
22:46 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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