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| 04:30 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
| 04:30 | wizzyrea | oh my gosh is it that time already ! |
| 04:35 | mveron | 6:34 in the morning here... |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | 16:35 here :) |
| 04:35 | mveron | tea time? |
| 04:35 | wizzyrea | not quite, but nearly |
| 04:36 | mveron | coffee time here... |
| 04:38 | wizzyrea: Did you see my bug 18515 ? Would be somthing for tea time... :-) | |
| 04:38 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18515 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use news based help system for OPAC |
| 04:39 | mveron | No, I mean bug 18483 |
| 04:39 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system |
| 04:39 | wizzyrea | I like the idea of that |
| 04:40 | me personally I'd ditch the file based one entirely | |
| 04:40 | that bird has flown | |
| 04:42 | if I get a chance, I'll have a look at that :) | |
| 04:42 | mveron | Great! |
| 04:42 | The file based can be turned off by system preference, btw | |
| 04:43 | wizzyrea | yeah I saw that, I just don't see the point of keeping it really |
| 04:43 | but that's ok :) | |
| 04:44 | that is, it's ok to keep it | |
| 04:44 | I just think it was always kinda a badly implemented thing and really we ought to get rid of it is all | |
| 04:45 | mveron | Agreed.. Maybe the file based can be dropped later... |
| 04:56 | ...but we could keep the help files because they are translated - and then use them for Bug 18516 | |
| 04:56 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item |
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| 06:25 | mveron | Coffee time again... |
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| 08:43 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 08:49 | eythian | hi marcelr |
| 08:50 | marcelr | morge |
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| 08:56 | * andreashm | waves |
| 08:57 | andreashm | marcelr: what's the status of bug 12063? Waiting for more fixes from Alex or is it set for another round of QA? |
| 08:57 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Signed Off , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays |
| 08:58 | marcelr | andreashm: i will look at it this week; but this was until now quite an iterating experience.. |
| 08:58 | andreashm | =) |
| 08:58 | would be great if you can look at it! | |
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| 09:02 | * andreashm | is hoping it will find it's way into master soon. Every holidy we have problems with books waiting on the holds shelves. |
| 09:03 | andreashm | *fingers crossed* |
| 09:18 | eythian | marcelr: put your 'n's back on words. It's untidy just dropping them all over the place. |
| 09:20 | * magnuse | thinks marcelr meant Norge |
| 09:34 | marcelr | eythian: it is a shame |
| 09:34 | hi magnuse | |
| 09:34 | wahanui | kamelåså |
| 09:34 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 09:34 | * magnuse | is not really here |
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| 09:49 | magnuse | cait is probably not really here either? |
| 09:49 | cait | still waking up |
| 09:50 | it's a holiday here today :) | |
| 09:51 | eythian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]5yEt3WzGo#t=2m20s <-- cait, are you out visiting gleisschotterbettungsreinigungsmaschinen perhaps? |
| 09:51 | cait | ah not today |
| 09:52 | magnuse | holiday here too, trying to get a little bit done on the ill though |
| 09:54 | cait | :) |
| 09:54 | what are you working on? | |
| 09:55 | magnuse | CancelRequestItem |
| 09:55 | cait | ILL? |
| 09:55 | wahanui | well, ILL is Inter-Library Loan |
| 09:55 | eythian | http://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkv[…]l/cijfers2904.jpg <-- handy holiday calendar thing (except bevrijdingsdag is a holiday here once every 5 years for some bizzarroland reason.) |
| 10:02 | magnuse | every 5 years?!? |
| 10:03 | marcelr | bizzarroland? ik blijf leruh |
| 10:03 | magnuse | cait: yeah, ILL (NCIP) |
| 10:04 | * cait | now knows everything about Gleisbettungsreinigungsmaschinen |
| 10:19 | magnuse | but what about Gleis*schotter*bettungsreinigungsmaschinen? |
| 10:33 | cait | i watced the video robin shared :) |
| 10:34 | they clean the stones under the rails with a really long train | |
| 10:35 | * eythian | does not play scrabble in German |
| 10:40 | eythian | https://www.troyhunt.com/recko[…]ere-hold-my-beer/ <-- everything is terrible |
| 10:50 | https://vrouw.nl/artikel/opgeb[…]edag-vieren-op-30 <-- marcelr | |
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| 10:58 | marcelr | those poor tourists walking thru the city in orange on 30th |
| 10:59 | eythian | marcelr: yeah, apparently there were a few vergistoeristen floating around. |
| 10:59 | marcelr | new word: vergistoerist ! |
| 11:00 | eythian | It'll be in VanDale next edition, I'm sure. |
| 11:00 | marcelr | vergistoerismeindustrieterrein |
| 11:01 | eythian | that's when you have tourists accidentally cleaning the stones under the rails, right? |
| 11:01 | marcelr | these are certainly vergistoeristen |
| 11:32 | eythian | @later tell drojf good support for your letsencrypt work: https://security.googleblog.co[…]e-connection.html |
| 11:32 | huginn_ | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:06 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 12:06 | marcelr | hi kidclamp |
| 12:07 | kidclamp | hi marcelr |
| 12:07 | marcelr | kidclamp: i adjusted the guidelines for the approved two perl rules |
| 12:07 | kidclamp | thanks! and thanks for adding to agenda |
| 12:07 | marcelr | and added a simple example for exceptions |
| 12:08 | hope to be there again at 13utc at least | |
| 12:10 | kidclamp | that's why we have two :-) |
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| 12:13 | * oleonard | isn't really here |
| 12:14 | eythian | HI THERE OLEOPARD |
| 12:14 | * marcelr | is not really waving to oleonard |
| 12:15 | marcelr | oleopard++ |
| 12:16 | oleonard | Think of me as I sit for the next 8 hours in meetings. |
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| 12:39 | cait | hm... looks like i was disconnected.. huh |
| 12:39 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 12:39 | cait | hi marcelr |
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| 12:43 | cait | hm |
| 12:43 | (leave blank for auto calc during registration): | |
| 12:43 | for cardnumber | |
| 12:43 | but then i can't save without entering one? | |
| 12:43 | #fail | |
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| 12:48 | eythian | cait: aren't you on holiday? |
| 12:48 | cait | yes? |
| 12:49 | eythian | I feel like you're doing a bad job of being on holiday. |
| 12:49 | cait | by having some fun with Koha sign offs for the first time in ages? don't tihnk so :) |
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| 13:05 | mveron-away | Hi again #koha |
| 13:06 | marcelr | hi mveron-away |
| 13:07 | mveron | Daag marcelr |
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| 15:03 | mveron | Hmm, link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ml#globalsysprefs |
| 15:03 | Is that a known issue? | |
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| 15:27 | cait | mveron: hm think it might, the manual needs some work |
| 15:27 | you could leave rangi a message maybe? | |
| 15:28 | mveron | Will do. I'm working on bug 18516 and was considering a link to current help. |
| 15:28 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add possibility to import text from file based help system as news based help system item |
| 15:29 | mveron | current manual... |
| 15:29 | based on bug 18483 | |
| 15:29 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Customised help: Enhance staff client with news based, easily editable help system |
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| 17:44 | mveron | rangi: around? |
| 17:45 | @ later tell rangi Link to current manual does not display images, e.g. for http://manual.koha-community.o[…]ml#globalsysprefs - Is that a known issue? | |
| 17:45 | huginn_ | mveron: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:46 | tmcmahon | Has anyone else noticed problems with hotkeys on the intranet inteface? Specifically on /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl |
| 18:47 | Alt-Q goes to the Renew tab and should go to Search the catalog. Alt-W goes ththe Search the catalog tab and it should go to Renew. | |
| 18:48 | Koha version 16.11.06.000 on Debian 8. Package install. | |
| 18:50 | Tried clearing browser cache, chrl-alt-R, private browser window, two test installs and the demo on the Bywater site. All the same. | |
| 18:51 | kidclamp | hmm..well hitting ctrl+q and closing all browser windows doesn't help test that |
| 18:52 | works for me in 16.11 - not sure what could be wrong tmcmahon - anything in your intranetuserjs touching those tabs? | |
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| 18:56 | tmcmahon | I have one for alt-c to get back to the Koha start page and make sure patron info isn't sitting on the screen. |
| 18:56 | Did you test it on the return page? I haven't noticed the problem anywhere else yet. | |
| 19:14 | kidclamp | oh, you are right, my apologies, I was on the mainpage |
| 19:14 | it works as you describe, you could file a bug | |
| 19:24 | tmcmahon | Thanks kidclamp. I just wanted to make sure I'm not the only one before I file a bug. It's bug 18521. |
| 19:24 | huginn_ | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18521 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Renew and search hotkeys are swapped on returns page. |
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| 19:35 | barton | hey, does anyone have a workaround for the fact that keyword search treats "not" as a logical operator? Searching for the title "All the light we cannot see" returns correct results, but "All the light we can not see" returns a keyword search containing "All the light we can" which excludes "see". |
| 19:40 | cait | no |
| 19:40 | but there is a bug for it somewhere, an old one | |
| 19:41 | barton: the queryparser was supposed to fix that, but is not usable right now | |
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| 19:42 | barton | that makes sense, cait. |
| 19:42 | cait | it replaced it by && || i think |
| 19:42 | not sure what was not | |
| 19:43 | maybe worth checking if it works better iwth elastic | |
| 19:46 | barton | elastic is a good idea ... if nothing else, I think we could probably accomodate it using quoting in elastic... |
| 19:47 | "All the light we can not see" vs "All the light we can" NOT "see" | |
| 19:47 | cait | using not or and is problematic |
| 19:47 | also in terms of i18n | |
| 19:47 | it's not self explanatory at all | |
| 19:48 | i'd prefer if we'd find another way of expressing it | |
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| 19:49 | barton | I agree, cait. |
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| 19:54 | oleonard | Meeting report: Learned out to use a fire extinguisher. |
| 19:54 | * oleonard | over and out |
| 19:56 | cait | :) |
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| 20:22 | mveron | Good night / daytime everybody :-) |
| 20:24 | barton | @seen ashimema |
| 20:24 | huginn_ | barton: ashimema was last seen in #koha 2 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <ashimema> blimey.. that clubs one is HUGE |
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| 20:37 | tcohen | hi |
| 20:39 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 20:39 | tcohen | happy (?) labours day |
| 20:40 | cait | toyou too |
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| 21:28 | rangi | @later tell mveron I have no access to that server, https://koha-community.org/manual/16.11/html/ https://koha-community.org/manual/17.05/html/ and https://koha-community.org/man[…]nstallation/html/ are the ones I work on |
| 21:28 | huginn_ | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:44 | tcohen | rangi: is it about the translation server? |
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| 21:46 | rangi | manual.koha-community.org |
| 21:46 | i think we probably should retire it, and just leave the manuals living on the main koha site | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | that will cause quite a bit of link rot :( |
| 21:49 | a redirect would be nice | |
| 21:50 | gah the sphinx ones are so much nicer. | |
| 21:50 | tcohen | we should handle it in wordpress, yes |
| 21:50 | cait | ? |
| 21:51 | tcohen | the manual page |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | oh, it's not really "in" wordpress |
| 21:51 | kinda off to the side. :) | |
| 21:51 | tcohen | and the translated manuals should be published in the main site too |
| 21:51 | what I mean is that manual.koha-community.org doesn't make much sense | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | naw it doesn't |
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