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| 05:04 | mveron | Good morning / daytime #koha |
| 05:06 | alexbuckley++ for signing off Bug 13835 | |
| 05:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13835 trivial, P5 - low, ---, veron, Signed Off , Popup with searches: results hidden by language menu in footer |
| 05:09 | alexbuckley | no problem mveron |
| 05:10 | mveron | :-) |
| 05:12 | alexbuckley | I have also fixed up those sql removal bugs that wouldn't apply successfully for you: bugs 18212, 18247. And I have finished integrating the improved styling of 17942 with the onboarding tool so bug 18462 is ready for signoff |
| 05:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Implemented bootstrap styling on the web installer and onboarding tool |
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| 05:42 | mveron | alexbuckley: I hope I can test them this morning. |
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| 05:56 | oha | o/ |
| 05:56 | josef_moravec | good morning #Koha ;) |
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| 06:40 | fridolin | hie tehre |
| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | LibraryClaire | hi #koha |
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| 06:44 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 06:45 | * mveron | waves |
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| 07:41 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:43 | * mveron | has a meeting |
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| 08:55 | ashimema | @later tell khall do you still use your command line patron import tool? |
| 08:55 | huginn` | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:59 | nlegrand | bonjour |
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| 10:31 | LEJEUNE_FLORIAN | has somebody an issue with the creation of copies in the version 16.11 ? |
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| 11:39 | oleonard | Hi all |
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| 11:45 | josef_moravec | hi oleonard |
| 11:45 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
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| 12:07 | kidclamp | thanks oleonard |
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| 12:28 | edveal | Happy Monday |
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| 12:29 | tcohen | morning |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | I like this sign from one of the Marches for Science over the weekend: https://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/i[…]e-san-jose-26.jpg |
| 12:37 | eythian | haha |
| 12:41 | tcohen | LOL |
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| 12:49 | jcamins | oleonard: heh. I like it. |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | aynchronous answers |
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| 13:32 | Joubu | tcohen, ashimema: could you take a look at bug 18842 please? |
| 13:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18842 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
| 13:34 | kidclamp | joubu when you have a moment for thought take a glance at 18487? |
| 13:34 | Joubu | kidclamp: dup of bug 18481? |
| 13:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18481 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to pay full fine amount. |
| 13:35 | kidclamp | yes |
| 13:35 | Joubu | tcohen, ashimema: it is 18442? |
| 13:35 | tcohen, ashimema: it is 18442! | |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | and both are 17140 |
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| 13:44 | oleonard | Hi francharb |
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| 13:47 | francharb | Hi oleonard ! |
| 13:49 | oleonard | francharb and Joubu, did you get to vote in the election back in your home country? |
| 13:49 | francharb | nope. Haven't been able to register in time. :( |
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| 13:52 | Joubu | I am not French, cannot vote |
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| 13:53 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18409: Make the controller for holds use Koha::Holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0948b1027adc0f1c1> |
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| 15:26 | oleonard | ashimema: Your Sandbox 0 OPAC seems to be broken. No CSS, no JS. |
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| 15:49 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:53 | oleonard | Is there a devbox-ish way to run 'translate update' ? Or should it work correctly from koha-shell? |
| 15:55 | Joubu | cd misc/translate; perl translate LANG update |
| 15:55 | if you want to be sure | |
| 15:55 | but it should work with koha-translate in master (only) | |
| 15:56 | if you want it in old versions, comment on bug 16733 (which blocks16749) | |
| 15:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, More flexible paths in debian scripts (for dev installs) |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Thanks Joubu |
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| 16:00 | oleonard | cait? |
| 16:00 | wahanui | i heard cait was the best friend you could ever have. |
| 16:00 | oleonard | Sounds right wahanui |
| 16:00 | cait | on a train :) |
| 16:00 | waht's up? | |
| 16:01 | oleonard | Could you check to see whether I've got correct translation advice on Bug 18367? |
| 16:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18367 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Fix untranslatable string from Bug 18264 |
| 16:01 | cait | if the page opens, i am trying :) |
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| 16:02 | cait | oleonard: yours looks better |
| 16:02 | cheating with sentences like that is not good | |
| 16:03 | doesn't work when your language requires a different order of words | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | Okay, thanks for checking. I wasn't sure if my memory of best practices was up to date. |
| 16:03 | cait | you probably could also have the dievs outside |
| 16:03 | oleonard | right, of course. |
| 16:03 | cait | and end with one string... with both sentences, but it's a bit messier |
| 16:04 | * kidclamp | is always unclear on translation stuff |
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| 16:05 | * cait | encourages kidclamp to learn German :P |
| 16:05 | cait | nah, that woudl be mean |
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| 16:06 | kidclamp | oleonard and I should get together and work on our czech |
| 16:06 | oleonard | :D |
| 16:06 | kidclamp | I'll move to Prague if you will |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Deal! |
| 16:06 | * oleonard | packs |
| 16:07 | oleonard | cait: What is mean is making the rest of the world learn English. |
| 16:07 | Joubu | (be care, pints cost 1€ in Prague) |
| 16:08 | kidclamp | mmm...pivo |
| 16:10 | * kidclamp_lunch | realizes context is damning, is going to run, not drink |
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| 16:32 | CrispyBran | tcohen: is there a way to look at previous versions of Koha in the kohadevbox? |
| 16:33 | Or oleonard^ ? | |
| 16:33 | oleonard | CrispyBran: You use git to check out a previous version |
| 16:33 | git checkout origin/3.22.x | |
| 16:34 | CrispyBran | Cool. Thanks. Do I do that from anywhere or within a branch? |
| 16:35 | oleonard | You don't need to do that as part of a specific branch, but you can. |
| 16:35 | Joubu | git checkout -b 3.22.x origin/3.22.x |
| 16:35 | and restart memcached + plack | |
| 16:35 | oleonard | restart_all |
| 16:35 | Joubu | and you will certainly need to recreate the DB |
| 16:37 | CrispyBran | How about if I just wanted to look something up at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=tree? |
| 16:38 | Wait....I think I stumbled upon it | |
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| 16:41 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:42 | @seen oleonard | |
| 16:42 | huginn` | mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 6 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <oleonard> restart_all |
| 17:08 | CrispyBran | oleonard, do you have a moment for me to get your opinion on some workflow? |
| 17:09 | oleonard | Sure CrispyBran |
| 17:12 | CrispyBran | So, when you check in an item that belongs to another library, I notice that it states:"Please return item to: XYZ" and then shows a button to print slip. Our library always prints a slip, but apparently this confused a library that doesn't. It appears that the transfer is set in motion upon check in, rather than having to "confirm" like you do with a hold. |
| 17:13 | Do you think it would be better to have the message indicate that the item is already triggered for transfer? | |
| 17:13 | Perhaps the message should read "Transferring item to: XYZ"? | |
| 17:15 | oleonard | That makes sense to me. Or "Item is now in transit to XYZ" |
| 17:15 | CrispyBran | And last quesion. Since the transfer is already in motion, shouldn't the Cancel Transfer button ALWAY show? |
| 17:15 | It doesn't show the cancel when the transfer is first triggered. | |
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| 17:15 | oleonard | I think that would be useful |
| 17:16 | CrispyBran | I think both changes would make it a lot more obvious. Which message do you prefer? Yours or mine? |
| 17:18 | oleonard | I guess "transfer" is more consistent with existing terminology |
| 17:18 | CrispyBran | Okay. Thanks for the feedback. :) |
| 17:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15702: Recommended Counter-patch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]90d2c34242c0cbb61> / Bug 15702: Add test cases for modified code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]520a295c18ba70b72> / Bug 18457: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d534e4f3629590d9> |
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| 17:35 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18452: Correcting 'url' to say 'URL' in catalog detail <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c20462542ae0e5397> / Bug 15815: Reword confirm message when removing patrons from card batch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e6b505500c96e0dd> / Bug 18466: article requests box outline in opac <http://git.koha-community.or |
| 17:36 | mtompset | oleonard: I have an ugly, but error free HTML patch up for bug 3311. |
| 17:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3311 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Statistical reports should error if row and column aren't selected |
| 17:36 | * magnuse | waves from OSL |
| 17:37 | magnuse | @wunder OSL |
| 17:37 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:37 | magnuse | well, it's snowing, if anyone wanna know |
| 17:37 | mtompset | I'd appreciate your feedback on the ugliness. |
| 17:37 | magnuse | and the planes are delayed |
| 17:37 | mtompset | magnuse: That's implossible. The Toronto Maple Leafs are out of the playoffs. |
| 17:37 | impossible. | |
| 17:37 | The curse of Harold Ballard is at rest for another year. | |
| 17:38 | * magnuse | suspects mtompset of talking plain gibberish |
| 17:38 | magnuse | did anyone ever create a programming language and name it gibberish? |
| 17:39 | mtompset | https://esolangs.org/wiki/Gibb[…]ramming_language) |
| 17:40 | magnuse: It's Canadian folklore, particularly amongst those who are Toronto Maple Leaf fans (a hockey team), that winter will not end until they are eliminated from the playoffs, and this curse will last until they win the Stanley Cup again. | |
| 17:40 | magnuse | yay |
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| 17:41 | magnuse | ...for the language |
| 17:41 | and for the lore, i guess :-) | |
| 17:42 | mtompset | It's called the curse of Harold Ballard, because he was the team owner who had issues with a player who supposedly placed a hex on the team, because they refused to pay him some amount of money. |
| 17:42 | The hex goes that they won't win the Stanley Cup until the money is repaid. | |
| 17:45 | @wunder l7e5y5 | |
| 17:45 | huginn` | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:45 | mtompset | @wunder l7e 5y5 |
| 17:45 | huginn` | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:45 | mtompset | @wunder toronto |
| 17:45 | huginn` | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:45 | mtompset | @wunder toronto, ontario |
| 17:45 | huginn` | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:45 | mtompset | @wunder 90210 |
| 17:45 | huginn` | mtompset: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 17:46 | mtompset | I guess it is broken. |
| 17:46 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 17:46 | huginn` | tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. |
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| 18:19 | oleonard | After using the OPAC's password recovery process I can log in to the staff client with my new password but not the OPAC. |
| 18:23 | mtompset still here? | |
| 18:24 | mtompset | Yes. Did 3311 make you want to cry that badly? |
| 18:24 | oleonard | 'label=" "' makes me want to cry badly |
| 18:24 | I don't think it's worth it to do that just to quiet the validator's complaints | |
| 18:25 | mtompset | Yes, but label="" and label=" " make me want to cry badly. |
| 18:25 | I like quiet validator. | |
| 18:25 | So, you wish 5 errors on the page? | |
| 18:25 | I can do that. | |
| 18:26 | oleonard | It makes more sense to add a label to the empty <option>. <option value="">Choose a day</option> Something like that. |
| 18:26 | mtompset | Didn't want to force more translation work on people. |
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| 18:27 | mtompset | But I had considered that too. Is that your preference? |
| 18:27 | oleonard | The validator wants form controls to be clear and accessible. Adding an empty label attribute isn't really accomplishing anything. |
| 18:28 | mtompset | Exactly, effectively as broken as it already is. ;) |
| 18:28 | oleonard | It's not broken at all. It just doesn't pass the validator. |
| 18:28 | mtompset | for some definitions of broken. :P |
| 18:29 | So, you recommend putting a "Choose a {foo}" type message? | |
| 18:29 | oleonard | For <select>s which are optional, I'd consider also text like "None" if that better expresses the value which is being submitted. |
| 18:30 | mtompset | Okay... I'll look at those 5 lines. |
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| 18:37 | * magnuse | wanders off in search of edibles |
| 18:42 | Joubu | oleonard: works for me on master |
| 18:42 | oleonard | Thanks for checking Joubu |
| 18:45 | mtompset | oleonard: There.. |
| 18:45 | wahanui | i guess there is one... but i don't know it |
| 18:45 | mtompset | "Not filtered by..." |
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| 18:59 | oleonard | Bye all |
| 19:35 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18066: Remove warnings from translate script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]32946ca9203f7519f> |
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| 19:57 | * magnuse | sends a snack of his own choice to drojf |
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| 20:04 | Joubu | @later tell khall bug 18459 is marked as pushed but is not actually |
| 20:04 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:54 | mtompset | Have a great day, #koha |
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| 23:05 | CrispyBran | cait: do you have time for a quick question? |
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| 23:15 | CrispyBran | tcohen, do you have time for a quick question |
| 23:15 | tcohen | hi CrispyBran |
| 23:15 | shoot | |
| 23:16 | CrispyBran | I'm looking at returns.tt. Paricularly the return2 section. Is there a scenario you can think of where an item needs to show hold buttons and transfer buttons at the same time? |
| 23:17 | This particular dialog has mystified me since we joined Koha. | |
| 23:19 | Seems to me that if an item has a hold, it should go to where the hold is. Unless some libraries require items make it home before filling a hold. But then why wouldn't that be done through settings rather than facing two choices? | |
| 23:20 | tcohen | CrispyBran: i'm not sure |
| 23:21 | CrispyBran | I'm tempted to pull the transfer logic out of there and have the hold logic just handle it. |
| 23:23 | I wish there was something to refer to as to why it would have been written this way. Oh well. | |
| 23:24 | tcohen | CrispyBran: the best approach is (usually) to file a bug, and attach a proposal |
| 23:24 | that way you will pick interested parties | |
| 23:24 | attention | |
| 23:24 | and probablly get the feedback you want | |
| 23:24 | CrispyBran | Thanks. I think I may do that. |
| 23:24 | tcohen | refactoring old pieces of code seems fun at some point |
| 23:25 | but don' tdo bit stuff all together | |
| 23:25 | baby steps | |
| 23:25 | otherwise QA people can get overwhelmed | |
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