IRC log for #koha, 2017-04-13

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00:11 BobB hi folks
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02:15 wizzyrea one of my librarians came up with an interesting idea this morning
02:15 "allow rental fees on all items issued by a specific patron category
02:15 "
02:15 the use case was
02:15 "we have ILL libraries who we don't have reciprocal lending with, we'd like to charge them"
02:28 thing that is annoying
02:28 koha-email-enable vs
02:28 koha-start-zebra
02:28 vs
02:28 koha-plack --enable
02:28 vs
02:28 dcook hehe
02:29 wizzyrea I can't think of the 4th one but I know it's there.
02:29 why not koha-email --enable
02:29 and koha-zebra --start
02:29 I think I'd prefer that.
02:30 oh koha-enable-sip
02:31 so that's, in order:
02:31 koha-email-enable
02:31 koha-start-zebra
02:31 koha-plack --enable
02:31 koha-enable-sip
02:31 * wizzyrea cries
02:32 dcook We're all crying :)
02:32 wizzyrea koha-enable-* and koha-start-* are ok, because it's koha-action-*
02:32 but the other two, I can't.
02:33 dcook If it helps, I've made a script with built-in daemon options, and now I'm thinking I shouldn't so that the Debian packages can have a koha-harvester-enable --enable or whatever using daemon
02:33 wizzyrea koha-plack is probably the most robust options wise
02:33 dcook daemons are the worst..
02:34 wizzyrea well we should decide which way we like 😂
02:34 dcook Agreed
02:34 But good luck hearding those cats
02:34 wizzyrea doing them like koha-plack would be more work
02:34 dcook Or kittens or whatever they are
02:34 wizzyrea but probably better
02:34 dcook herding*
02:34 wizzyrea lol.
02:34 * dcook can't even spell
02:34 wizzyrea yeah I was just now imagining the backlash
02:34 because it'd have to be backwards compatible.
02:34 dcook Yep
02:34 :D
02:35 wizzyrea because "MY SCRIPT DOESN'T WORK NOW"
02:35 dcook We have like the worst of both worls
02:35 worlds*
02:35 wizzyrea right?
02:35 and this is why we don't have nice things.
02:35 * dcook nods
02:35 dcook People say how great Google products are, but they're 100% in control
02:35 wizzyrea and, they just change stuff and let the whiners whine
02:35 dcook They don't have to coordinate X developers from around the world, and have it be backwards compatible for X installations of X versions around the globe
02:35 wizzyrea and then the whiners get in line
02:35 dcook And there's that
02:35 Especially that
02:35 wizzyrea and do it their way
02:35 dcook Soo  much that
02:36 * dcook remembers when people used to complain about Facebook UI changes
02:36 dcook That doens't happen anymore as people just got over it
02:36 wizzyrea well it does
02:36 dcook Maybe a bit
02:36 wizzyrea they just stop whining
02:36 sooner.
02:36 dcook Yeah haha
02:36 I think I found a bug in Maps, but the process for reporting it just didn't seem worth it either
02:37 wizzyrea hard process for reporting bugs = working as intended.
02:37 dcook So I'll just put up with my distance sometimes being in miles
02:37 wizzyrea *snerk*
02:37 it's K's in canada isn't it
02:37 dcook yep
02:37 wizzyrea so you wouldn't even have the benefit of being dual brained about it
02:37 dcook km in Canada, Australia, most places
02:37 Well...
02:37 wizzyrea < is dual brained
02:37 dcook Country roads are in miles
02:38 wizzyrea things in the US are miles
02:38 dcook So if someone tells you to go 5 miles, that is kind of understandable as it's denoted by other segments
02:38 Because farmland is divided up by miles iirc
02:38 Go 5 miles, turn right, go 2 miles, turn right at the rusted tractor
02:38 Or replace miles with sections
02:39 wizzyrea: You must be dual brained about F and C as well then
02:39 ibeardslee mm fish and chips
02:39 dcook mm
02:40 wizzyrea yeah, mostly
02:40 it's quite funny actually
02:40 if we are talking about the US, it's all F in my mind
02:40 if we are talking about nz, it's all C
02:40 "what's the weather in Auckland today?" "18C"
02:41 "what's the weather in Kansas?" "80."
02:41 i mean, I'll answer you in the local unit.
02:41 dcook hehe
02:41 That's great :D
02:42 Oh, actually, I guess I do that a bit
02:42 Like when it comes to the oven
02:42 In North America, you're probably cooking at 350F I reckon
02:42 Whereas here... it's like 180-220C
02:42 350-450F in NA I guess..
02:42 Depending on what it is, when you want it, and how burned
02:45 wizzyrea I'd find ovens a lot easier if the temp scale was actually visible on my oven
02:45 as it stands, I just kinda guess.
02:45 max for my oven is 220
02:45 so I just kinda scale it down from there :P
02:46 dcook hehe
02:46 Yeah my oven is gas so I don't really trust the increments on there
02:46 I mostly just watch the flame and think "Yeah... that seems higher than high but lower than the highest"
02:46 oven-enable-heat
02:47 wizzyrea LOL
02:47 dcook oven-enable-heat-less
02:47 damn it!
02:47 :p
02:47 wizzyrea oven-enable --hot
02:47 oven-enable --less-hot
02:47 oven-enable --downright-balmy
02:47 dcook oven-disable
02:47 wizzyrea where's eythian when you need him.
02:48 dcook bed-enable
02:48 stop it, dcook!
02:48 bed-enable --ethyian
02:48 bed-enable --person eythian
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04:16 dcook Any tips for creating a per site configuration file for Debian?
04:16 I think __KOHA_CONF_DIR__ gets changed to /etc/koha, so that's not helpful..
04:18 Or is that a Debian script thing..
04:19 Ah yeah it's totally a debian/templates/koha-conf-site.xml.in thing
04:19 Not my problem..
04:22 Well I'll update the template anyway..
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06:18 fridolin hie ehre
06:24 * dcook waves
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06:33 marcelr hi #koha
06:34 dcook Ahh make upgrade is broken atm, isn't it?
06:35 * dcook seems to recall hearing that
06:35 marcelr hi dcook; yeah, there is a bug for that
06:36 dcook Is it fixed and just awaiting backporting?
06:36 marcelr not sure
06:37 dcook Hmm, well I'll rebase and try :)
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06:39 dcook Nope. Still broken.
06:39 * dcook swears under his breath
06:40 dcook Bug 18028: Remove outdated install_misc directory
06:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18028 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , install_misc directory is outdated and must be removed
06:40 dcook That would do it..
06:41 bug 18373
06:41 wahanui well, bug 18373 is major and needed for stable releases
06:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18373 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , `make upgrade` is broken
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06:43 dcook thanks marcelr for the confirmation :)
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06:43 marcelr np
06:43 reiveune hello
06:43 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
06:43 alex_a bonjour
06:44 dcook ah merde..
06:44 In reference to make upgrade. Not you guys :p
06:44 * dcook waves
06:44 marcelr hi reiveune and alex_a
06:45 alex_a hello marcelr
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07:15 gaetan_B hello
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07:16 kastan hi
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07:22 sameee sup'
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08:55 marcelr jajm++
08:58 jajm marcelr, note that i haven't tested it with elastic search, since i can't make it work on my dev install :/
08:58 marcelr ok, we still have more issues there
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11:27 marcelr @later tell tcohen please check 18361; thx
11:27 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
11:29 marcelr khall: can you push 18413? small fix
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12:04 oleonard Hi all
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12:06 marcelr hi oleonard
12:06 wahanui hi olé onard
12:10 marcelr thx khall
12:10 khall np!
12:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18349: [QA Follow-up] Add four missing error messages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]34fd676edf64f4df7> / Bug 18349: Remove useless info in alert message <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a49682da37f1f44a1> / Bug 18349: If a confirmation is required, consider as blocker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p
12:28 New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18121: Replace opac_news.new with opac_news.content in notices templates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4758495fc32947a9f>
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12:40 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18388 - Standardize serials volume information displaying <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]990597c9e75e65d81> / Bug 17872: Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ec10c31409bb1b99> / Bug 14932: Do not call can_edit_subscription with an empty value <http://git
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12:50 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17737: [QA Follow-up] Remove unused reservedfor variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9f7ca49b4e1e1dc3> / Bug 17737: Rename holds_placed_before_today with current_holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e34a39788d7e15224> / Bug 17737: Remove C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromItemnumber <http://git.koha-community
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13:01 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9988: [QA Follow-up] Satisfy QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e779e0a35184d54d> / Bug 9988: Add the cronjob and print an upgrade message <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2cdd1458e5677f7ee> / Bug 9988: Refactor the cron script <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=dea93375dc
13:01 marcelr khall++
13:06 khall: did you move the dbrev to updatedatabase already ?
13:07 dbrevs (3)
13:07 khall marcelr: working on that right now!
13:07 marcelr cool
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13:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14537: [QA Follow-up] Remove one overdues residue in pref description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96117287c9935bbac> / Bug 14537: Renaming OverdueNoticeBcc to NoticeBcc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]62336c1ca1cb81f18> / Bug 9988 - DBRev 16.12.00.023 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co
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13:25 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14537 - DBRev 16.12.00.024 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4164ed27072317e9>
13:29 marcelr have to go; bye #koha
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13:57 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #149: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/149/
13:57 kyle: Bug 18413: Fix Letters.t (following bug 17866)
13:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18413 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix Letters.t (follow-up of 17866)
13:57 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Change sender for claim and order notices
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14:37 * kidclamp waves
14:39 * CrispyBran watches in awe
14:40 * kidclamp feels slightly mocked
14:40 * CrispyBran is amused
14:41 CrispyBran kidclamp: I can't find the list of webinars anywhere.  I am trying to find the link to sign up for today's.  Can you point me to it?
14:42 kidclamp sent your way
14:43 CrispyBran got it.  thanks!
14:47 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17978
14:47 huginn` 04Bug 17978: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circ rules will not limit holds
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15:11 barton @later tell tcohen hey, good find on bug 17717 -- http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1127880
15:11 huginn` barton: The operation succeeded.
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15:39 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #150: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/150/
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18349: SCO - Do not trust the confirmed flag
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18349: $borrower is a hashref
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18349: If a confirmation is required, consider as blocker
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18349: Remove useless info in alert message
15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18349 is not accessible.
15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18349: [QA Follow-up] Add four missing error messages
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18121: Replace opac_news.new with opac_news.content in notices
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18395: (bug 14610 followup) Remove article requests methods from
15:39 * kyle: Bug 14932 - serials/serials-collection.pl-page is very slow.
15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18121 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Rename opac_news.new with opac_news.content - replace notice template
15:39 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14932: Do not call can_edit_subscription with an empty value
15:39 * kyle: Bug 17872: Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls
15:39 * kyle: Bug 18388 - Standardize serials volume information displaying
15:39 * kyle: Bug 17737: Replace GetReservesFromItemnumber with
15:39 * kyle: Bug 17737: Remove C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromItemnumber
15:39 * kyle: Bug 17737: Rename holds_placed_before_today with current_holds
15:40 * kyle: Bug 17737: [QA Follow-up] Remove unused reservedfor variable
15:40 * kyle: Bug 18208: Add RecordProcessor filter to inject not onloan count to MARC
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18395 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Wrong article request methods in Koha::Patrons
15:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14610 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to place article requests in Koha
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18208: [QA Follow-up] Get count from Koha::Items
15:40 * kyle: Bug 18274: C4::Items - Remove GetItemStatus
15:40 * kyle: Bug 18375: Better readability of patron category table for zero ages and
15:40 * kyle: Bug 18394: Remove useless code from item search
15:40 * kyle: Bug 18394: Add an option to item search to export a barcodes file
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Database revision for AuthorityMergeLimit
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14932 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , serials/serials-collection.pl-page is very slow. GetFullSubscription* checks permission for each serial!
15:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17872 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Fix small error in GetBudgetHierarchy and one of its calls
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Table revision for need_merge_authorities
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: DBIx schema changes for need_merge_authorities
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Add Koha objects for table need_merge_authorities
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Add extract_biblionumber to Koha/SearchEngine
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18388 minor, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Master , Standardize serials volume information displaying in OPAC and staff
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add get_usage_count and linked_biblionumbers to
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Merge should have a parameter hash
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Move GetReservesFromItemnumber to Koha::Item->holds
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Remove the Zebra code from sub merge
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Check the merge limit in sub merge
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add RecordProcessor filter to inject not onloan count to MARC records
15:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Items - Remove GetItemStatus
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15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Remove further references to dontmerge
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Add a subtest for specific postponed merge issues
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18375 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Better readability of patron category table for zero ages and fees
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Few subtle changes for postponed merge
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: Refactor the cron script
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Add an option to item search to export a barcodes file
15:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Leave larger authority merges to merge_authorities cronjob (pref AuthorityMergeLimit)
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 9988: Add the cronjob and print an upgrade message
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988: [QA Follow-up] Satisfy QA issues
15:40 * kyle: Bug 9988 - DBRev 16.12.00.023
15:40 * kyle: Bug 14537: Renaming OverdueNoticeBcc to NoticeBcc
15:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to Master , The system preference 'OverdueNoticeBcc' is mis-named.
15:40 jenkins * kyle: Bug 14537: [QA Follow-up] Remove one overdues residue in pref
15:40 * kyle: Bug 14537 - DBRev 16.12.00.024
15:54 kidclamp @later tell marcelr trying to catch you re some authority questions, ping me when you can
15:54 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
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17:20 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #151: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/151/
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20:19 kidclamp CrispyBran++
20:19 CrispyBran++
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20:58 barton hey #koha, I've got SearchEngine set to ElasticSearch; ps aux shows elastic is running, but my import is hanging at 0% ... is there anything else I need, or is this a bug? (the records import correctly under zebra).
21:17 how does koha tell elastic search which items have and haven't been indexed? it can't use zebraqueue...
21:17 s/items/bibs/
21:48 reiveune bye
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