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| 07:27 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:48 | * magnuse | waves! |
| 07:48 | wishes he was somewhere else | |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wudner marsielle, france |
| 07:48 | huginn` | magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wunder marsielle, france |
| 07:48 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wunder marseille, france |
| 07:48 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:49 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 07:49 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:57 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
| 07:57 | alex_a | hello magnuse |
| 07:57 | matts | hello ! |
| 07:57 | alex_a | not at the hackfest this year magnuse ? |
| 07:57 | magnuse | nope :`-( |
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| 07:59 | bag | magnuse: HI |
| 07:59 | wahanui | salut, bag |
| 07:59 | magnuse | bag: HI |
| 07:59 | everyone arrived safely? | |
| 07:59 | no hotel reservations forgotten? | |
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| 08:07 | matts | bag, Vieux Port |
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| 08:20 | oha | o/ |
| 08:21 | magnuse | \o |
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| 08:22 | oha | I might sound silly now, but I was wondering about my email regarding C4::Auth and refactoring: has it been missed/ignored or should i just wait longer for feedback? |
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| 08:23 | cait | probably just a difficult topic |
| 08:23 | maybe add it to the agenda of the next dev meeting? | |
| 08:24 | drojf | bonjour |
| 08:24 | oha | cait: yes. I want to do it even for the previous one, but i couldn't attend |
| 08:25 | cait | good morning drojf |
| 08:25 | oha: it would also be a topic for the hackfest | |
| 08:25 | but as you are not there, not sure if you could do something remote? | |
| 08:26 | oha | cait: yup, i won't. but maybe someone can bring the topic up? and we can have a chat here after? |
| 08:26 | cait | you could try emailing paul_p about it |
| 08:27 | oha | paul_p? |
| 08:27 | wahanui | paul_p is probably https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]2157654238168185/ |
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| 08:28 | cait | paul poulain |
| 08:29 | he is organising the hackfest | |
| 08:29 | bag | hiya cait |
| 08:30 | cait | welcome to this timezone bag |
| 08:30 | bag | hehe :) thanks! |
| 08:30 | ashimema | I think the core issue is it's a big topic and no-one has funding for time on it right now |
| 08:30 | happy hackfest | |
| 08:35 | cait | jajm: could you push to your branch maybe? I will do it tonight |
| 08:36 | i mean push up to the public repo | |
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| 08:37 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 08:37 | jajm | cait, bug 18275 is still in "Koha security", shouldn't we wait for it to be public ? |
| 08:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18275 is not accessible. |
| 08:38 | cait | i think right onw we are blocking people with git brnaches/customizations from updating |
| 08:39 | not sure who is going to make it public hm | |
| 08:40 | i guess as the releases are out, we can | |
| 08:41 | oha | ashimema: i think deichman is willing to put some time there (mine) but i will need help, mostly for testing CAS and Shib |
| 08:41 | cait: will contact him | |
| 08:41 | ashimema | it's the qa and signoff side I think are going to be hardest to work through |
| 08:42 | oha | ashimema: yeah, i can see that. OTOH it might save a lot of time on the long run? |
| 08:42 | ashimema | a few people have jumped in and tried re-writing auth.. but it's never been enough of a multi company team effort to actually work anything through :( |
| 08:42 | jajm | cait, ok, i'll push to the public repo in the morning then |
| 08:42 | ashimema | yup.. I behind you on that one |
| 08:43 | oha | just please, have a look at what i did so far. I wonder if it is easier than expected |
| 08:43 | ashimema | but I can't personally commit to looking at it unfortunately.. as cait has said.. getting a presence at hackfest will help.. so i agree with her.. if you can try and talk to paul_p and perhaps get someone whose there on side |
| 08:44 | cait | jajm: you mean tomorrow? |
| 08:44 | ashimema | feel free to try adn grab atheia when he comes online.. I know he's there (I sent him) and he's pretty technically adept so he might be able to help push it a bit? |
| 08:44 | jajm | cait, i can do it today, or tomorrow, or whenever you tell me to :) |
| 08:44 | cait | :) |
| 08:45 | i just don't have ym laptop here, so that's why I will be a little later i think | |
| 08:45 | can't do anything withotu the keys and stuff set up | |
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| 08:52 | drojf | are the security releases going into the public repository? it seems they are not there yet? |
| 08:53 | cait | drojf: read back up |
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| 08:56 | drojf | cait: but pushing to the public git would be a rmaint thing, wouldn't it? |
| 08:56 | cait | drojf: i don't follow you |
| 08:56 | jajm and me just talked about it | |
| 08:57 | I can't push before tonight because i need my laptop with the keys, jajm can whenever we want to (he said ;) ) | |
| 08:57 | drojf | oh haha sorry i only read half |
| 08:57 | nevermind | |
| 08:57 | ok | |
| 08:57 | cait | and i was pondering if i am brave enough to switch the bug to Koha |
| 08:57 | drojf | that is probably a rm thing? no idea ;) |
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| 09:22 | magnuse | hiya LibraryClaire, Francesca, atheia, paul_p |
| 09:22 | Francesca | hi |
| 09:22 | LibraryClaire | bonjour magnuse |
| 09:23 | atheia | hello magnuse! |
| 09:24 | magnuse | are y'all having tons of fun yet? |
| 09:35 | atheia | yeah — the traditional am/pm planning board has gone up, we have internet, there is a signoff trello board & tons of sweets! |
| 09:35 | Feels like a proper hackfest! | |
| 09:35 | (Also, I'm on IRC, which is a sign of proper hackfest ;-) ) | |
| 09:36 | LibraryClaire | HARIBO |
| 09:39 | eythian | hi |
| 09:39 | @wunder ams | |
| 09:39 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 10.0°C (10:25 AM CET on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:39 | ashimema | lol |
| 09:39 | hello atheia | |
| 09:40 | atheia | long time no speak ashimema :D |
| 09:40 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:41 | Busy, busy in Marseilles I hope ;) | |
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| 09:43 | paul_p | hi magnuse. We miss you !!! |
| 09:47 | atheia | yeah, magnuse, real shame you couldn't make it :'( |
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| 10:11 | cait | paul_p: i am starting to feel sad ;) |
| 10:12 | magnuse | paul_p, atheia: i will be there next year, promise! |
| 10:13 | * magnuse | wanders off to find norwegian lunch |
| 10:18 | atheia | Ohai cait! :-D |
| 10:18 | cait | hi atheia |
| 10:19 | atheia | Indeed, sad not to have you here this year! Miss you lots! |
| 10:19 | cait | miss you all lots too! |
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| 10:37 | paul_p | cait you shouldn't: it's raining, ppl are not smart, I forgot to organize the lunch, and internet is not working. |
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| 10:44 | cait | paul_p: feeling better thx :) |
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| 10:51 | oha | paul_p: hey! someone suggested me to talk with you about my don quixotenian project to refactor C4::Auth |
| 10:52 | paul_p | kia ora oha. |
| 10:52 | oha | unfortunately i can't be in marseille for the hackfest, but maybe you can bring the topic there, and we can have an irc chat later, or a videoconf, or something |
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| 10:55 | paul_p | oha = that would be great. What about tomorrow afternoon ? (I think joubu will be interested to join, and he's in Argentina now, so european afternoon is America morning) |
| 10:55 | fridolin | hie there |
| 10:56 | * fridolin | at #HF2017 |
| 11:00 | drojf | ashimema: could you add a comment to bug 12026 please so it goes back into qa? |
| 11:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth auto-provisioning |
| 11:06 | * ashimema | looks |
| 11:06 | would also be interested in joining any call/chat about auth | |
| 11:08 | ashimema | drojf.. I'm afraid I don't remember the irc conversation about shibboleth errors at all.. |
| 11:08 | * ashimema | embarks on looking through irc logs to try adn understand what the question was |
| 11:09 | drojf | ashimema: it was a private conversation last november |
| 11:09 | ashimema | ah.. that helps actualyl.. |
| 11:09 | thanks | |
| 11:11 | drojf | i have been running it in production like this for a while now |
| 11:11 | so i guess it works ;) | |
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| 11:11 | ashimema | hehe.. yup |
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| 11:17 | ashimema | done and done |
| 11:17 | * ashimema | is secretly hoping drojf might get a chance to try the plack patches :) |
| 11:19 | drojf | ashimema: thanks! yes, it is part of the plan |
| 11:19 | ashimema | :) |
| 11:19 | drojf | and i made sure i got the shib dev server to play this week, so i should make use of it |
| 11:20 | * ashimema | realises he will need to add some additional code for plack to handle the other patches.. at the moment it's based against mast which has neither the staff client auth or user creation patches |
| 11:20 | is happy to devote some time to that this week if any of those patches move though.. it should be trivial to update them to take plack into account | |
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| 11:40 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
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| 11:43 | vfernandes | I have two virtualhosts for the same OPAC with different design, etc... when I log in on one of them, i don't log in on the other |
| 11:43 | oleonard | Hi hackfesters and less-fortunate non-hackfesters |
| 11:43 | vfernandes | it's possible to have the same session in the different OPACs? |
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| 11:49 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 11:49 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
| 11:49 | marcelr | hi oleopard |
| 11:50 | cait | atheia: new haircut? |
| 11:52 | eythian | hi oleopard |
| 11:52 | (et al) | |
| 11:53 | Joubu | Hi hk17 ;) |
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| 11:59 | cait | jajm: could you push this afternoon once you are all done with lunch and the like? |
| 12:02 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 12:05 | jajm | cait, yes i can do it right now |
| 12:06 | cait | thx a lot |
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| 12:08 | marcelr | jajm: If you know the token, you still need the credentials |
| 12:10 | cait | jajm: sending an email to the group too |
| 12:10 | jajm | marcelr, you don't need the credentials if you use CSRF to make an attack |
| 12:11 | marcelr | sure about that? |
| 12:11 | cait | maybe discuss in #kohasecurity ? |
| 12:12 | jajm | marcelr, if you have the credentials, why bother using CSRF ? |
| 12:12 | marcelr | :) |
| 12:13 | jajm | marcelr, i'm on #kohasecurity if you want to discuss about it |
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| 12:24 | ashimema | alex_a just sent you a rebase request on bz ;) |
| 12:25 | hopefully it's a 5 minute one ;) | |
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| 12:27 | oha | paul_p: ok. irc? i'll be at the keyboard |
| 12:28 | alex_a | ashimema: i did what ? |
| 12:29 | ashimema | ah.. hang on.. I think I've read the wrong name.. you signed off.. not authored |
| 12:29 | my bad | |
| 12:30 | alex_a | :) |
| 12:30 | ashimema | grr.. that's a hard thread to follow.. |
| 12:31 | alex_a | Joubu: seems that you fixed the last QA comments on BZ 17282, right ? |
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| 12:33 | ashimema | hmm.. I'm less sure.. maybe you did author the patches on 6979.. I was just hoping someone had a branch lying around they could rebase.. save my trying to sort out a SHA1 missing error :( |
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| 12:40 | * ashimema | will dive into qa'ing 17736 tomorrow morning unless anyone beats him to it. |
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| 12:42 | tcohen1 | bonjour #koha |
| 12:43 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba argentina |
| 12:43 | huginn` | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 13.0°C (9:37 AM -03 on March 20, 2017). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:44 | marcelr | ashimema++ |
| 12:44 | Joubu | alex_a: no idea |
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| 12:44 | marcelr | probably noone will beat you |
| 12:45 | Joubu | @wunder buenos aires argentina |
| 12:45 | huginn` | Joubu: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 12:45 | Joubu | @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina |
| 12:45 | huginn` | Joubu: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 12:45 | marcelr | no |
| 12:45 | Joubu | ok |
| 12:45 | marcelr | does not exist anymore |
| 12:46 | Joubu | alex_a: should recheck the different points |
| 12:52 | What's going on in Marseille? Could someone be picked (arbitrarily) to tell us what is happening, what's planned? | |
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| 12:56 | alex_a | Joubu: we are disgesting |
| 12:56 | cait | what Joubu said |
| 12:56 | waht was for food today? | |
| 13:03 | oleonard | cait and Joubu, neither of you is there this time? |
| 13:03 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18275: Do not rely on CGI param userid to log a user in if auth is not required <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de2591caab6427d49> / Bug 18275: Regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]df1323cdd86940303> |
| 13:04 | alex_a | ashimema: oh yes, you was right. Will rebase 6979 |
| 13:05 | ashimema | thanks alex_a :) |
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| 13:06 | kidclamp | cait: asian food today, spring rolls! |
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| 13:06 | * ashimema | wants spring rolls now |
| 13:07 | ashimema | kidclamp.. you doing any more ES presentations this year? |
| 13:07 | * ashimema | is wondering if any work has progressed on relevancy ranking |
| 13:07 | kidclamp | ashimema: yeah, talking RDF/ES on wednesday |
| 13:07 | I have not done anything with relevancy - but needs to be done | |
| 13:08 | we need to compile a list if what must be done for ES | |
| 13:08 | there are bugs out there that need signs offs as well | |
| 13:08 | * ashimema | still has his ES Dev area setup with zebra and es side by side.. |
| 13:08 | ashimema | it needs a solid drive forward again I think.. |
| 13:08 | kidclamp | agreed |
| 13:09 | * ashimema | only wishes he had more time to lead the charge a bit |
| 13:09 | kidclamp | I want to test Joubus patron search this week |
| 13:09 | ashimema | :) |
| 13:10 | kidclamp | bug 18189 is a small one, but needs sign off and comments |
| 13:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch sorting broken |
| 13:12 | Joubu | and auth search is broken... |
| 13:12 | ashimema | what do we loose by making that switch kidclamp? |
| 13:12 | not sure I understand ES well enough to really sign that one off.. | |
| 13:12 | it might fix sorting fine, but break searching by partial author names for all I know.. for example? | |
| 13:14 | oha | or typo correction, or stemming, or matching reverse order. might be wise to have a sorting fields |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lle_hackfest_2017 |
| 13:15 | we need more info there | |
| 13:15 | ashimema | oha: precisely ;) |
| 13:16 | cait | kidclamp: unfair, something new! |
| 13:16 | kidclamp | ashimema: currently the waythings are done is to define indexes for sorting/faceting separate from searching |
| 13:17 | so if title is sortable we have title__sort fields | |
| 13:17 | changing the type here should only affect sortability and have no effect on searhing afaik | |
| 13:21 | * magnuse | sshould get back to reading that book on ES |
| 13:22 | kidclamp | https://trello.com/b/NYqWuFsO/[…]ackest-2017-hfk17 |
| 13:23 | cait | it would be good to have a list |
| 13:23 | of which search system preferences have any effect on elastic | |
| 13:23 | kidclamp | that would be a good list :-) |
| 13:23 | cait | or we could all put them in a section for zebra and have another for elastic |
| 13:23 | so people don't get confused | |
| 13:24 | Joubu | kidclamp: +my $item = Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>$itemnumber, barcode=>$barcode}); |
| 13:24 | magnuse | both of those sound like good ideas |
| 13:24 | Joubu | kidclamp: What is the expected behavior? |
| 13:25 | itemnumber and barcode are both unique key (first is PK, the other one is unique) | |
| 13:25 | kidclamp | only one of the variables should be defined - I thought it only populated the query if the vriable was defined' |
| 13:25 | so expected that it would fetch given either - seemed to work in my testing | |
| 13:27 | Joubu | say Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>100, barcode=>'aaa'})->title; # display the title for itemnumber 100 (no 'aaa' barcode) |
| 13:27 | say Koha::Items->find({itemnumber=>100, barcode=>'bbb'})->title; # display the title for itemnumber 100 (no 'bbb' barcode) | |
| 13:28 | I'd prefer to see something explicit, like Koha::Items->find( { ( $itemnumber ? ( itemnumber => $itemnumber ) : ( barcode => $barcode ) } ); | |
| 13:32 | kidclamp | fair enough, trying to be too clever (lazy) |
| 13:33 | cait | hm barcoe can be null |
| 13:33 | maybe something you'd need to catch | |
| 13:34 | alex_a | ashimema: rebased! |
| 13:34 | ashimema | cheers |
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| 13:36 | * andreashm | waves |
| 13:37 | andreashm | Hi marseille peep, and all others (like me) who are not there. |
| 13:37 | peeps | |
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| 13:38 | atheia | hi andreashm :-) |
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| 13:38 | kidclamp | updated Joubu |
| 13:40 | andreashm | hi atheia! at the hackfest? |
| 13:40 | atheia | Yup! |
| 13:40 | andreashm | nice. |
| 13:40 | wish I was there too. =) | |
| 13:48 | * cait | sends chocolate to all the non-hackfesters |
| 13:50 | cait | atheia: where are our updates? and what's witht he paper on the wall? :) |
| 13:51 | magnuse | hiya andreashm |
| 13:52 | tcohen | thanks, cait |
| 13:52 | * cait | has some chocolate herself |
| 13:53 | andreashm | oh, chocolate! |
| 13:53 | wahanui | reiveune ate them all |
| 13:53 | reiveune | :) |
| 13:53 | andreashm | hiya ciat, magnuse, tcohen! |
| 13:53 | cait | |
| 13:53 | * tcohen | wants pictures from cheese day |
| 13:54 | * Joubu | wants the smell of cheese day |
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| 13:55 | * magnuse | wants the cheese of cheese day |
| 13:55 | magnuse | ...and the cheesiness |
| 13:56 | i think i must procure a few nice cheeses in time for the day and have a bit of a feast anyway | |
| 13:57 | andreashm: life and other customers keep getting in my way, but I still hope to have something semantic to look at before the week is over | |
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| 13:57 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 13:58 | andreashm | magnuse: brilliant! |
| 14:01 | atheia | cait: updates!? eek, well — patches are being signed off; I'm feeling irate at sandboxes |
| 14:01 | And I'm preparing stuff for stockrotation and ILL. | |
| 14:01 | The papers on the wall are scheduled presentations! | |
| 14:01 | Also, check out | |
| 14:01 | https://trello.com/c/50udcLcK/[…]point-of-checkout | |
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| 14:01 | atheia | Oh sorry |
| 14:01 | cait | atheia: yeah they are not readable on the photos :) |
| 14:01 | atheia | https://trello.com/b/NYqWuFsO/[…]ackest-2017-hfk17 |
| 14:02 | It's where signoffs & QA's at for bugs. | |
| 14:03 | Ah — do you want a higher res pic? | |
| 14:03 | * ashimema | looks at that qa queue |
| 14:03 | rsantellan | I have a question about moving from koha 16.05 to 16.11. I'm missing the dependency on Can't locate Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch.pm on the updatedatabase.pl |
| 14:04 | magnuse | bonjour talljoy! reached marseille yet? |
| 14:04 | talljoy | oui! |
| 14:04 | just made it to the Biblibre office | |
| 14:04 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 14:04 | welcome ;-) | |
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| 14:15 | andreashm | has it been decided which day is RDF day? |
| 14:19 | cait | rsantellan: odd - how did you update? |
| 14:21 | rsantellan | git checkout origin/16.11.x |
| 14:22 | cait | so you are running a git install? |
| 14:22 | rsantellan | change the apt file to stable |
| 14:22 | wahanui | rsantellan: that doesn't look right |
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| 14:22 | cait | with or without plack? |
| 14:22 | rsantellan | with plack |
| 14:22 | cait | that's not a dependency i think, it's a Koha module |
| 14:22 | so something else is wrong | |
| 14:22 | ashimema | eythian are you attending yapc::europe by any chance? |
| 14:22 | rsantellan | I run it by hand on the koha-shell and it worked |
| 14:23 | cait | did you restat plack? |
| 14:23 | yeah, always run the installer on the koha-shell with plack and git | |
| 14:24 | rsantellan | I had the vm shut down, I change the branch and then start it up. Plack save the data from the last session? Do you have to restart plack even when you are restarting the machine? |
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| 14:28 | cait | not sure if you do a vm shut down not only pause it that should probably work |
| 14:28 | but still runnign from koha-shell is the way to go | |
| 14:31 | ashimema | alex_a.. that';; be a nice one to get off the pile ;) passed qa |
| 14:31 | rsantellan | cait: alright, I will do that from now on! Thanks a lot! |
| 14:33 | magnuse | hm, if you enable emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced is there a way to get email only when a hold is placed on an on shelf item? or should this be left off and use the "holds to pull" report instead? |
| 14:34 | cait | i'd recommend the latter |
| 14:34 | the feature is quite limited | |
| 14:34 | it hink also not unproblematic for multi-branch systems | |
| 14:34 | ok... linux question | |
| 14:34 | how do i get a list of files from a directory that matches a certain criteria like 'contains word x'? | |
| 14:35 | magnuse | cait: grep "x" * |
| 14:36 | and thanks | |
| 14:36 | cait | that looks inside the file :) |
| 14:36 | i just want the files with the names | |
| 14:36 | matts | find . -name '*x*' |
| 14:37 | cait | looks good |
| 14:37 | thx matts! | |
| 14:37 | magnuse++ matts++ | |
| 14:37 | alex_a | ashimema: thx |
| 14:37 | matts | -iname if you want it case insensitive |
| 14:37 | cait | working well enough |
| 14:37 | trying to get a list of languaguge codes from the po directory | |
| 14:38 | Joubu | -depth 1? |
| 14:38 | cait | it's ok for now it hink - thx! |
| 14:40 | hm actually, still something wrong | |
| 14:40 | i still get all files listed | |
| 14:40 | ? | |
| 14:40 | i just wanted a list of all... say opac po files | |
| 14:41 | without the others | |
| 14:41 | ls -l *opac* ... sorry | |
| 14:42 | magnuse | ls *opac* |
| 14:42 | ls -1 | cut -d'-' -f1,2 | sort | uniq | grep -v -e ".po" -e opac -e staff -e marc | |
| 14:42 | so many ways to skin the proverbial cat... | |
| 14:43 | andreashm | General question: Do you think there are any other libraries that would be interested in seperate (split) hold queues, rather than just one as today, when for example hold fulfillment is limited by itemtype or pickup location is same as home library? |
| 14:43 | cait | yeah and i treid lots of things,... but not the most simple :) |
| 14:43 | magnuse | @quote get 123 |
| 14:43 | wahanui | http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
| 14:43 | huginn` | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 14:43 | cait | andreashm: split, how? |
| 14:44 | andreashm | cait: for the same bib. When you request a hold for a specific item type, that patron isn't on hold for everything, just the books that are of that item type. |
| 14:44 | we see this as two hold queues. | |
| 14:46 | Item type A can have three holds, and type B only one. And if the one for B came in last, it will show in Koha and number 4. This confuses the hell out of our patrons, where they sometime think they will wait a long time for a hold, when in reality it might be a week. | |
| 14:47 | cait | hm not sure i can't follow right now |
| 14:47 | are you using the holds to pull or the holds queue? | |
| 14:47 | andreashm | Holds queue. |
| 14:47 | wahanui | rumour has it holds queue is to do with that table |
| 14:48 | cait | so you want to see all holds instead of one,is that it? |
| 14:49 | andreashm | nope, just show them as several queues. |
| 14:49 | like: "Book title" item type A (3), item type B (1). | |
| 14:49 | today it show was "Book title" (4) | |
| 14:50 | cait | sorry, not getting it :( |
| 14:50 | andreashm | Not explaining it very well. |
| 14:52 | Humm, thinking of how to explain it differently. | |
| 14:59 | ashimema | you mean item level holds as opposed to bib level holds basically andreashm.. right? |
| 14:59 | andreashm | its the same for the preference "same pickup library is item's home library". |
| 14:59 | ashimema | oh.. perhaps now |
| 15:00 | s/now/not | |
| 15:00 | andreashm | ashimema: not quite. |
| 15:00 | ashimema | taking location into account |
| 15:00 | andreashm | say your public library also has a school library affiliated with it. books from there should not be sent to other branches for hold, and vice versa. |
| 15:01 | ashimema: location (branch in this case) and/or item type | |
| 15:01 | ashimema | so basically split by how a hold can be forfilled |
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| 15:04 | andreashm | damn, got disconnected. |
| 15:04 | but ashimema, yes exactly! | |
| 15:05 | ashimema | did that also clarify it for you cait? |
| 15:05 | I can see it being helpful.. though I can also see if being challenging to impliment | |
| 15:05 | andreashm | when hold fulfillment syspref are set to allow, it doesn't make sense (at least to us) to have one hold queue. We are wondering if anyone else thinks the same. =) |
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| 15:06 | cait | sorry, have to concentrate on something here, will read back |
| 15:07 | andreashm | ashimema: possibly. I've spoken to khall about it a little and he seems to think it can be done (at least "virtually", i.e. showing it as seperate hold queues in staff/opac, while it is still only one queue beneath). He was not sure about what the community would think of it though. Hence my quick question here. =) |
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| 15:09 | khall | andreashm: ashimema: yeah, it would require a pretty significant re-engineering of the holds system to have multiple holds queues per record. Would you agree ashimema? |
| 15:09 | ashimema | perhaps ask the mailing list.. I think more librarians read that ? |
| 15:10 | khall | that's a capital idea |
| 15:10 | ashimema | I think so.. I'm not entirely sure.. |
| 15:10 | but yeah.. I think it's worth asking on the mailing list for comments as to whether it's broadly usefull.. I'm coming at it from a dev perspective so can't really comment on the librarian side andreashm | |
| 15:10 | :) | |
| 15:11 | khall | andreashm: I think ashimema has a good idea. Put it out on the mailing list and see if there are other libraries out there that would use such a feature |
| 15:12 | andreashm | Sounds great khall (and ashimema)! |
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| 15:13 | andreashm | will write an e-mail to the list. |
| 15:13 | thanks for the input guys! | |
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| 15:14 | andreashm | ashimema++ |
| 15:15 | khall++ | |
| 15:15 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:17 | cait | i think my brain is not ready for holds today |
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| 15:19 | andreashm | cait: that's how I feel most days. =) |
| 15:19 | matts | He's holding you back ! |
| 15:19 | badum-tss | |
| 15:19 | barrc | Hey, has anyone come across koha indexing borrower details in the biblio search index??? Eg, a catalogue search for a borrower name gets a hit on the borrower that has the item checked out!? |
| 15:20 | cait | that#s not possible |
| 15:20 | unless you have the name in an item field for example | |
| 15:20 | internal note? | |
| 15:20 | wahanui | internal note is not displayed in the opac |
| 15:20 | barrc | yup, that's what I though. but it is happening! |
| 15:20 | cait | it really can't |
| 15:20 | technically not possible, unless you have it in the data | |
| 15:20 | zebra indexes marc - it would have to be in a marc field | |
| 15:20 | check items | |
| 15:21 | and the marcxml | |
| 15:21 | wahanui | the marcxml is a representation of the usmarc in xml |
| 15:21 | barrc | have checked almost everywhere, not certain about items though, I will check that (although not sure where or have the information could be getting in there) |
| 15:22 | cait | my first thought would still be internal note or something like this |
| 15:22 | also, if you have IncludeSeeFromInSearches - check the linked authorities for the name | |
| 15:22 | barrc | if the item gets checked in the search doesn't match though |
| 15:22 | cait | becaus they get pulled into the search |
| 15:23 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #127: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/127/ |
| 15:23 | * kyle: Bug 18275: Regression test | |
| 15:23 | * kyle: Bug 18275: Do not rely on CGI param userid to log a user in if auth is | |
| 15:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18275 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , opac-memberentry.pl security vulnerabilities |
| 15:24 | barrc | IncludeSeeFromInSearches is disabled. |
| 15:25 | drojf | khall: could you please push 18222 and 18243 soon? they are just fixes for tests and make the nightly builds happy |
| 15:25 | khall | will do drojf! |
| 15:26 | drojf | khall: awesome, thanks! |
| 15:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18222 - Fix tests broken by Buug 18026 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50888c595f48205f5> / Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: Conditionally test Koha::ExternalContent::* modules loading <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2df92225b45548c9d> / Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of WebService::ILS::Ov |
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| 15:57 | cait | everyone gone already? |
| 15:57 | matts | nope |
| 15:57 | Still there | |
| 15:57 | cait | so quiet |
| 15:58 | matts | Almost beer-o-clock though :) |
| 15:59 | oleonard | Please raise a glass to sad missing comrades. |
| 16:00 | * kidclamp | will do that oleonard |
| 16:00 | matts | will do :) |
| 16:03 | eythian | ashimema: I haven't given it any thought, but I probably should. |
| 16:04 | * ashimema | is hoping to attend and wondered who he might know there |
| 16:04 | eythian | drojf: yeah, thought that was the case. |
| 16:04 | drojf | nobody is beering. french clocks are broken |
| 16:05 | LibraryClaire | my brain is beering |
| 16:05 | * ashimema | would like to beer |
| 16:05 | wishes the hackfest gang happy berring | |
| 16:05 | ashimema | s/berring/beering |
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| 16:09 | * cait | is immune to all the beer talk |
| 16:09 | cait | maybe that's my secret super power.... |
| 16:10 | eythian | you should trade it in for a better superpower |
| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:15 | matts | hackfest attendees, do you want to have a beer? We were thinking about going to a different spot, for a change. |
| 16:15 | cait | ! |
| 16:18 | matts | There: https://www.google.fr/maps/@43[…]6656!9m2!1b1!2i38 |
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| 16:21 | matts | bye |
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| 17:19 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #128: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/128/ |
| 17:19 | * kyle: Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of | |
| 17:19 | * kyle: Bug 18243: 16034 follow-up: Conditionally test Koha::ExternalContent::* | |
| 17:19 | * kyle: Bug 18222 - Fix tests broken by Buug 18026 | |
| 17:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18243 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Bug 16034 follow-up: better handling of absence of WebService::ILS::OverDrive::Patron at testing |
| 17:19 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18222 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Fix tests broken by Bug 18026 | |
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| 18:25 | barton | hey, I was talking to kidclamp; he said that the issues concerning sysprefs like intranetuserjs and opacuserjs not being updated without restarting plack had been resolved in master -- does anyone know the bug number for that? I've tried grepping the release notes for 'plack' and 'syspref' as well as bugzilla searches for the same -- I'm coming up empty. |
| 18:27 | does this ring a bell with anybody? | |
| 18:29 | eythian | maybe look in relation to "cache" or "caching" too |
| 18:29 | (just speculating, I have no real info.) | |
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| 20:03 | * magnuse | wonders what all the cool people in marseille are doing |
| 20:05 | * cait | tries not to :) |
| 20:11 | magnuse | well we who are not in marseille are doing pretty cool things too, right cait? |
| 20:11 | cait | um .. sure? |
| 20:11 | magnuse | i, for one, am doing a security upgrade of my customers, for example |
| 20:12 | pretty darn cool | |
| 20:12 | cait | :) |
| 20:12 | I pushed stuff | |
| 20:12 | magnuse | yay |
| 20:12 | cait | and had home made red lentil soup |
| 20:12 | magnuse | high five! |
| 20:12 | * magnuse | should be translating |
| 20:13 | magnuse | but its soooo booooring... |
| 20:13 | cait | :) |
| 20:13 | stop putting it off for so long, than it won't build up as much ;) | |
| 20:13 | magnuse | that is certainly true |
| 20:14 | but i had other stuff to do... | |
| 20:14 | and its soooo booooring... | |
| 20:14 | cait | hehe |
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