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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:44 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:00 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 08:17 | eythian | hi |
| 08:18 | @wunder ams | |
| 08:18 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.0°C (8:55 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:18 | LibraryClaire | @wunder konstanz |
| 08:18 | huginn` | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 6.5°C (9:15 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:21 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:21 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 08:21 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:21 | magnuse | summery! |
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| 08:56 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 08:57 | eythian | hi drojf |
| 08:57 | drojf | hi eythian |
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| 09:05 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:05 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is 5.3°C (10:00 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:05 | drojf | @wunder txl |
| 09:05 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 4.8°C (9:51 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:08 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 09:08 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 7.0°C (10:00 AM CET on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.26 in 991 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:10 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 09:20 | fridolin | drojf: hie there, do you have a sec for me ? |
| 09:21 | I have added repo https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly but i cant update it | |
| 09:23 | drojf | fridolin: what happens when you try? |
| 09:24 | eythian | drojf: that's my line |
| 09:24 | fridolin | drojf: ah thanks : E: The repository 'https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly unstable Release' is not signed. |
| 09:24 | N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. | |
| 09:25 | drojf | ah |
| 09:25 | you can add [trusted=yes] to the deb line | |
| 09:25 | deb [trusted=yes] https://apt.abunchofthings.net/koha-nightly unstable main | |
| 09:25 | i think thats the way | |
| 09:26 | fridolin | ah i test |
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| 09:26 | fridolin | drojf: it wooooooooorks |
| 09:26 | drojf | woohoo |
| 09:26 | fridolin | thanks a lot |
| 09:26 | drojf | i should put a not on the page |
| 09:26 | fridolin | we are preparing sandboxes for HF |
| 09:26 | drojf | cool |
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| 10:00 | magnuse | moin drojf |
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| 10:28 | eythian | @later tell rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFM140rju4k |
| 10:28 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:32 | cait | is there anything urgent that should be included in 16.11.05? |
| 10:33 | eythian | that video. |
| 10:41 | magnuse | cait: there is a bug report i have been meaning to check out |
| 10:41 | one sec | |
| 10:43 | bug 17985 | |
| 10:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17985 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hold request fails if only item in transit |
| 10:44 | magnuse | no, not that one |
| 10:44 | cait: bug 17940 | |
| 10:44 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17940 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred |
| 10:44 | magnuse | ah, pushed to stable. never mind! |
| 10:45 | cait | :) |
| 10:45 | everything from master but 2-3 patches i still have to look at has been reviewed and pushed | |
| 10:45 | we will have string freeze tomorrow | |
| 10:46 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 10:46 | * magnuse | should translate... |
| 10:46 | cait | yep you should :) |
| 10:46 | but not quite yet, wait another day or wo | |
| 10:46 | two | |
| 10:47 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:47 | i will probably wait too long... | |
| 10:48 | i want to hack up something RDFy for y'all to look at during the hackfest | |
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| 11:35 | cait | khall: can you please push the tiny patch on bug 7143? correction of a dev's nam |
| 11:35 | e | |
| 11:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 11:36 | cait | @later tell Joubu can you please take a look at my coment on bug 17951? |
| 11:36 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 12:04 | kivilahtio | biblio_metadata++ |
| 12:04 | One note though | |
| 12:05 | the MARCXML is lost when the biblio is deleted because of a CASCADE FOREIGN KEY -constraint in the biblio_metadata-table from biblio-table | |
| 12:05 | previously the marcxml was preserved in the oldbiblioitems-table | |
| 12:06 | this is a challenge for gathering statistics | |
| 12:06 | for example item has been ordered, received, and removed from collection during the statistics period | |
| 12:06 | information in marcxml is needed to accurately categorize the item | |
| 12:06 | ... | |
| 12:08 | we can just cut the CASCADE from our DB but this might be a bigger issue | |
| 12:08 | for some libraries with peculiar annual staistical gathering needs (like us) | |
| 12:08 | who might not realize the change | |
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| 12:33 | kivilahtio | Looks like there is a table 'deletedbiblio_metadata', but where is it populated... |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:46 | kivilahtio | morning |
| 12:47 | tcohen: where is deletedbiblio_metadata created when a biblio is deleted? | |
| 12:49 | tcohen | kivilahtio: i haven't looked at that code yet |
| 12:49 | ask joubu | |
| 12:49 | kivilahtio | Joubu: where is deletedbiblio_metadata created when a biblio is deleted? |
| 12:57 | hmm, better to look with Koha::Biblio::Metadata to find the way instead of biblio_metadata | |
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| 13:00 | Joubu | kivilahtio: oops |
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| 13:04 | kivilahtio | Joubu: looks like it |
| 13:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Replace Santallan by Santellan <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60f5c9145e23939a1> |
| 13:05 | kivilahtio | Joubu: will you provide a followup or will I? |
| 13:06 | Joubu | kivilahtio: if you can, please do |
| 13:06 | kivilahtio | Joubu: ok |
| 13:06 | Joubu | kivilahtio: set the status 'critical' and cc me |
| 13:07 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 13:07 | Joubu | kivilahtio: not sure what's the best actually |
| 13:07 | kivilahtio | Joubu: set status to 'me' and cc 'critical'? |
| 13:08 | I had the mostests horrible stomach diarrhea whatever this weekend, phew | |
| 13:08 | I am barely alive | |
| 13:08 | Joubu | happy to know |
| 13:08 | kivilahtio | yeah |
| 13:08 | It comes with the kids | |
| 13:08 | erm kid | |
| 13:08 | tcohen | yay! diarrhea! |
| 13:09 | however it is written! | |
| 13:09 | Joubu | ha but I created the table actually, 'just' not filling it when deleting |
| 13:09 | tcohen | spelled |
| 13:09 | kivilahtio | havent had 38.7 degrees celsius temperature in a decades |
| 13:09 | considering the global economic situation 38.7 is not that bad :) | |
| 13:17 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
| 13:17 | kivilahtio | hiii |
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| 13:17 | vfernandes | can anyone help me on a encoding problem? |
| 13:18 | i'm doing a fresh koha install and the languages descriptions have some encoding problems | |
| 13:19 | removing the line which enables mysql_enable_utf8 on C4::Installer the languages appears correctly | |
| 13:19 | all mysql variables are in utf8 | |
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| 13:22 | kivilahtio | Joubu: also. In Koha there once was a great idea that one biblio-entry can have multiple biblioitems |
| 13:22 | and the marcxml was tied to the biblioitems-table | |
| 13:22 | this is a nice idea, but nobdy really cared for it and now biblionumber and biblioitemnumber are used interchangeably | |
| 13:23 | except when they get out of sync during a data migration | |
| 13:23 | then things start to work really interestingly | |
| 13:23 | but the point is | |
| 13:23 | Joubu | vfernandes: check the charset and collate of your tables |
| 13:23 | kivilahtio | biblio_metadata has a biblionumber-column |
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| 13:24 | kivilahtio | shouldn't it have a biblioitemnumber-column, just for old time's sake? |
| 13:24 | Joubu | IIRC if you have biblionumber != biblioitemnumber you are going to get wrong things |
| 13:25 | kivilahtio | yes |
| 13:25 | this is bug afaik | |
| 13:25 | but so we respect the legacy and maybe make it easier to migrate to FRBR (BibFrame etc) | |
| 13:26 | I can mash the change to biblioitemnumber-column in the mix | |
| 13:26 | vfernandes | Joubu: collation = utf8_unicode_ci |
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| 13:26 | vfernandes | charset = utf8 |
| 13:27 | Joubu | kivilahtio: you are coping biblionumber, so it does not make sense to call it biblioitemnumber |
| 13:27 | s/you/we | |
| 13:27 | copying | |
| 13:27 | kivilahtio | Joubu: my suggestion is to copy biblioitemnumber |
| 13:27 | Joubu: in the biblioitems-table we had marcxml. primary keyed with biblioitemnumber | |
| 13:27 | Joubu | definitely not on the same bug report if you want to do it |
| 13:27 | kivilahtio | marcxml was moved to biblio_metadata |
| 13:28 | Joubu | but biblionumber should be a key as well |
| 13:28 | unique key I meant | |
| 13:28 | kivilahtio | hmm |
| 13:28 | well it would make things easier | |
| 13:28 | and storing a couple million extra int(11) in DB wont make any difference | |
| 13:29 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 13:29 | quick question | |
| 13:29 | We are working on the manual translation | |
| 13:29 | koha 16.05 | |
| 13:30 | Joubu | vfernandes: do you have encoding problems after the install is finished? |
| 13:30 | francharb | when I translate the manual.xml from the git |
| 13:30 | some strings are not translated | |
| 13:30 | but they are translated in the po files | |
| 13:31 | does anyone know how to fix this ? | |
| 13:31 | vfernandes | after running web installer, for example portuguese language description is "Português" instead of "Português" |
| 13:31 | Joubu | vfernandes: where? |
| 13:33 | francharb | I use msgcat to concat all po files, msgfmt to generate the mo file, then itstool to translate |
| 13:35 | Joubu | make html? |
| 13:37 | francharb | I noticed my problem comes when I generate the html from the xml. I use the docbook xsl |
| 13:38 | Any suggestion? | |
| 13:38 | Joubu | launch `make html` |
| 13:39 | francharb | Joubu, tu me parles ? |
| 13:40 | Joubu | yep |
| 13:40 | francharb | thanks |
| 13:41 | from where ? | |
| 13:41 | is it a koha shortcut ? | |
| 13:41 | Joubu | from the kohadocs repo |
| 13:42 | francharb | ok but it's a shortcut for sphynx |
| 13:42 | which doesnt' work for this version | |
| 13:42 | Joubu | we are talking about the manual, not Koha, right? |
| 13:42 | francharb | yes |
| 13:43 | but rangi already briefed me about this. It's for the last version of the manual. I think he is going "backport" the 16.11 manual | |
| 13:43 | but we use the 16.05 | |
| 13:43 | Joubu | read the REAME |
| 13:44 | :D | |
| 13:44 | I am kidding, the REAME is "Adding Kohadocs"... | |
| 13:44 | Read that page? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]on_as_DocBook_RFC | |
| 13:45 | Are you sure you do not want to work on the most recent version of the docs? | |
| 13:45 | You are going to learn an obsoleted way to do | |
| 13:46 | francharb | That's what our clients use |
| 13:46 | so... | |
| 13:49 | Thanks Joubu. I read this a while ago but I just realised that I was using a different xslt. I'm going to test again! | |
| 13:49 | Thanks! | |
| 13:58 | Joubu, it works! YOU MADE MY DAY!!! | |
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| 14:17 | vfernandes | Joubu: in the language_description table |
| 14:18 | Joubu | vfernandes: do you see encoding problems on the interface? |
| 14:19 | vfernandes: how did you install? | |
| 14:19 | vfernandes | yes, for example in the i18n tab of the admin |
| 14:19 | kivilahtio | Joubu: Why there even is a separate deletedbiblio_metadata-table? |
| 14:19 | there wont be a primary key collission | |
| 14:20 | both the biblio and deletedbiblio-tables can pull from the same tale biblio_metadata | |
| 14:20 | I guess it is nice this way due to the FOREIGN KEY-constraints | |
| 14:20 | just thinking | |
| 14:22 | Joubu | yes, pk collission is possible |
| 14:30 | tcohen | @later tell marcelr are you going to QA bug 18208? |
| 14:30 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:32 | kivilahtio | Joubu: tcohen: Do you know anything about Koha::MetadataRecord? Why there is Koha::Biblio::Metadata as well? |
| 14:33 | tcohen | kivilahtio: yes |
| 14:33 | i think they kind of overlap | |
| 14:34 | but K::MR is not wrapping db rows | |
| 14:34 | they could be merged at some point | |
| 14:34 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 14:35 | vfernandes | Joubu: turning on the mysql logs the queries are arriving with wrong enconding |
| 14:35 | so it's something on the application side | |
| 14:35 | the C4::Installer uses DBIx::RunSQL | |
| 14:35 | tcohen | bug 18098 and bug 18208 are a good approach IMHO |
| 14:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add an index with the count of not onloan items |
| 14:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add RecordProcessor filter to inject not onloan count to MARC records | |
| 14:35 | tcohen | pleease QA them |
| 14:36 | vfernandes | subtag_registry.sql is correctly encoded |
| 14:38 | Joubu | yes Koha::Biblio::Metadata is just Koha::object-based |
| 14:39 | vfernandes: sorry, too much lag and you answer only half of the questions, cannot help more | |
| 14:41 | vfernandes | thanks anyway... but which question I didn't ask? |
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| 14:47 | Joubu | vfernandes: how did you install? |
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| 14:48 | Joubu | is it a dev install, with kohadevbox? debian/ubuntu using package? |
| 14:48 | if the characters are not correctly encoded in the tables, you should reinstall, something went wrong | |
| 14:51 | jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #126: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/126/ |
| 14:51 | kyle: Bug 7143: Replace Santallan by Santellan | |
| 14:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
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| 14:58 | vfernandes | directly from tar.gz downloaded from koha-community |
| 14:59 | not from debian packages | |
| 15:01 | there something wrong with DBD::mysql or DBI | |
| 15:02 | turning mysql logs and DBIx::RunSQL verbose on: the queries are being readed from file correctly but arrives to mysql with double encoding | |
| 15:02 | removing the line $self->{'dbh'}->{'mysql_enable_utf8'}=1; on C4::Installer everything works fine | |
| 15:04 | Joubu | vfernandes: if you thinkn it's a bug, please open a new bug report |
| 15:05 | vfernandes | I don't think it's a bug |
| 15:05 | it's something related with this installation | |
| 15:05 | but I don't know what... | |
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| 15:18 | * druthb | blames cait |
| 15:18 | cait | huh? |
| 15:18 | what for? | |
| 15:18 | druthb | cait++ # taking the blame |
| 15:18 | * druthb | looks innocent. |
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| 15:22 | Joubu | vfernandes: what version are you using? |
| 15:23 | vfernandes | 16.11 |
| 15:24 | 16.11.01 | |
| 15:24 | MySQL 5.7.16 | |
| 15:24 | Joubu | strict mode disabled? |
| 15:25 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ackages#Ubuntu_16.04_and_MySQL_5.7 | |
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| 15:26 | vfernandes | yes... |
| 15:26 | sql-mode= in my.cnf | |
| 15:28 | before execute method, i get the following log: INSERT INTO language_descriptions(subtag, type, lang, description) VALUES ( 'pt', 'language', 'pt', 'Português') | |
| 15:29 | mysql log: 2017-03-14T15:27:19.243573Z 63 QueryINSERT INTO language_descriptions(subtag, type, lang, description) VALUES ( 'pt', 'language', 'pt', 'Português') | |
| 15:31 | Joubu | Hum, that's weird. I have no idea where it could come from |
| 15:31 | But I would not continue without the line you removed | |
| 15:32 | did you try to reinstall Koha? | |
| 15:32 | Why do not you use the packages? | |
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| 15:50 | vfernandes | Joubu: I'm installing Koha using Docker containers and i've tried several times to reinstall Koha |
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| 16:56 | cait | fyi: I've sent he email to bgkriegel for updating the po files - we are string frozen now on 16.11.x |
| 16:58 | oleonard | If anyone is using kohadevbox on Windows (only me, right?) don't upgrade VirtualBox. There's a bug which affects Vagrant. |
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| 17:19 | kidclamp | @later tell CrispyBran <oleonard> If anyone is using kohadevbox on Windows (only me, right?) don't upgrade VirtualBox. There's a bug which affects Vagrant. |
| 17:19 | huginn` | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:20 | kidclamp | @later tell kchris <oleonard> If anyone is using kohadevbox on Windows (only me, right?) don't upgrade VirtualBox. There's a bug which affects Vagrant. |
| 17:20 | huginn` | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:20 | kidclamp | that's all I know of oleonard |
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| 17:44 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:52 | blou | weather |
| 17:52 | francharb | @weather |
| 17:52 | huginn` | francharb: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 17:52 | blou | @weather h2r2y6 |
| 17:53 | huginn` | blou: The current temperature in Elmo Rooftop Terrace, Westmount, Westmount, Quebec is -9.1°C (1:52 PM EDT on March 14, 2017). Conditions: . Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:01 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 18:01 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 15.1°C (12:52 PM CDT on March 14, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:01 | druthb | #LifeInTheTropics |
| 18:02 | eythian | No such channel, druthb |
| 18:02 | druthb | :P |
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| 18:40 | sjenson | Greetings all. I am trying to figure out a detail about cataloguing in Koha. Most of the items have been copied catalogued into the system which is helpful. However, when I try to create a MARC record, I cannot find the subjects that should already be in the systems, eg. Space Exploration. |
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| 18:41 | sjenson | does anyone know of a good tutorial which would describe this step? |
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| 19:24 | eythian | sjenson: you're in the quiet time when Europeans are in the pub and Australasia is having breakfast. Hang around and you'll probably get a reply :) |
| 19:25 | sjenson | thanks. I was thinking of sending it out to the list-serv too. |
| 19:25 | eythian | sjenson: also, you probably need authority records. |
| 19:25 | That's also a worthwhile option. | |
| 19:26 | sjenson | are authority records imported when you import a MARC record from a Z39 server? |
| 19:26 | eythian | No, they're a separate thing |
| 19:27 | However, they can be auto generated, there's a syspref for it | |
| 19:27 | I'd ask jcamins if i were you, i can't remember the details. Also, I'm in Europe so at the pub :) | |
| 19:30 | sjenson | eythian: I have a few more hours before I can get down to the local pub, so I am a bit jealous. |
| 19:32 | eythian, thanks for your help. I will start googling the information I need. | |
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