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| 00:09 | irmab | hi #koha |
| 01:39 | kidclamp | @later tell tcohen I will be in as early as possible but your turn to chair :b |
| 01:39 | huginn | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:12 | drojf | morning #koha |
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| 06:27 | * mtj | waves to drojf |
| 06:31 | drojf | hi mtj |
| 06:34 | * cait | waves |
| 06:35 | cait | 16.11.04 is out! :) |
| 06:36 | drojf | hi cait |
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| 06:39 | drojf | cait++ |
| 06:39 | cait: any weird things i should be looking out for | |
| 06:40 | ? | |
| 06:40 | cait | i hope not |
| 06:40 | it's the biggest one so far, but i hope i haven't missed something | |
| 06:41 | the nightly is green at least | |
| 06:41 | :) | |
| 06:42 | drojf | the nightly was also green when postinst was broken in master :P it needs more checks, so far it assumes package built=done |
| 06:42 | but sounds good :) | |
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| 07:01 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 07:01 | drojf | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:01 | LibraryClaire | moin drojf |
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| 07:11 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:13 | LibraryClaire | hi reiveune |
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| 07:30 | mtj | congrats cait++ - i am working on a 16.05.x release now |
| 07:30 | cait | mtj++ :) |
| 07:30 | bbia | |
| 07:30 | b | |
| 07:31 | drojf | 16.11.04 package is out |
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| 07:59 | magnuse | drojf++ |
| 08:00 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:00 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 08:00 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -7.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 28.88 in 978 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:00 | drojf | @wunder sxf |
| 08:00 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 9.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:00 | magnuse | 20 cm of fresh powdery snow this morning! |
| 08:01 | drojf | magnuse: i am so happy for you |
| 08:01 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:02 | drojf | there was supposed to be snow again next week. i have not checked again. i hope not |
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| 08:05 | drojf | it says 13° for that day now. nice |
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| 08:11 | drojf | is anyone using koha with vufind? |
| 08:11 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
| 08:11 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -3.0°C (9:50 AM EET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Falling). |
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| 08:18 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:29 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 08:29 | LibraryClaire | bonjour Joubu |
| 08:29 | hi gaetan_B | |
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| 08:46 | cait | drojf++ |
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| 09:03 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 09:03 | gaetan_B: it's skrei-season again! | |
| 09:04 | gaetan_B | oooh, i guess you'll have to take another serving for me then ! it doesn't seem like i'll make it to Norway this time |
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| 09:19 | nlegrand | Hello ! |
| 09:19 | If I have a bug on master that is also affecting 6.11, should I cc 6.11 release maintainers? | |
| 09:23 | Joubu | it's 11.6, not 6.11 :) |
| 09:23 | nlegrand | Joubu: ho right :) |
| 09:23 | Joubu | Nope, they watch the "push to master" bug list |
| 09:23 | so no need to cc them | |
| 09:23 | nlegrand | not quite awaken yet ^^ |
| 09:24 | Joubu | nlegrand: what bug is it? |
| 09:24 | nlegrand | Bug 18150, very easy one :) |
| 09:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18150 normal, P4, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , CanItemBeReserved doesn't work with (IndependentBranches AND ! canreservefromotherbranches) |
| 09:24 | nlegrand | patch coming= |
| 09:25 | Joubu | and it's 17.5.. |
| 09:25 | well it's year.month, ok? :) | |
| 09:25 | nlegrand: do you plan to submit a patch? | |
| 09:25 | nlegrand | :) |
| 09:26 | Joubu: in a few seconds | |
| 09:27 | 10:23 <@Joubu> it's 11.6, not 6.11 :) <- you meant 16.11 right ? ^^ | |
| 09:28 | * cait | sends coffee :) |
| 09:28 | * Joubu | grabs more tea |
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| 09:39 | eythian | hi |
| 09:39 | @wunder ams | |
| 09:39 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 10.0°C (10:25 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:39 | eythian | two digits! |
| 09:43 | drojf | hi eythian |
| 09:43 | eythian | hello drojf |
| 09:46 | drojf | @wunder sxf |
| 09:46 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is 10.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:46 | drojf | ha |
| 09:47 | eythian | you're just copying my weather |
| 09:47 | drojf | heh |
| 09:47 | i did a migration error and got light rain though | |
| 09:49 | eythian | yeah, that was silly |
| 09:49 | that was fixed a few hours ago in my version. | |
| 09:50 | * drojf | rebases weather |
| 09:50 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 09:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (10:20 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 28.85 in 977 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:51 | magnuse | git remote add amsterdam |
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| 10:07 | LibraryClaire | @wunder konstanz |
| 10:07 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Jungerhalde, Konstanz, Germany is 10.5°C (11:06 AM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
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| 10:20 | eythian | oooh, look at you with your extra 0.5°. Showoff ;) |
| 10:21 | LibraryClaire | *flex* |
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| 11:17 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
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| 11:55 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 11:55 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 11:55 | magnuse | @wunder marseille, france |
| 11:55 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 16.0°C (12:30 PM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:55 | magnuse | whoa! |
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| 11:59 | drojf | nice |
| 11:59 | magnuse: are you going to the hackfest? | |
| 12:02 | magnuse | sadly, no |
| 12:02 | ooh, dev meeting in ~1 hour? | |
| 12:03 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_22_February | |
| 12:03 | drojf | i keep missing those |
| 12:03 | or not knowing of them | |
| 12:04 | somebody should invent a thing where all days are listed and you enter what stuff you want to do | |
| 12:04 | magnuse | ooh, sounds like a clever idea |
| 12:05 | you should patent it! | |
| 12:05 | drojf | then i only need somebody to look at it once in a while and tell me what it says |
| 12:06 | magnuse | even better! |
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| 12:11 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 12:12 | drojf | oh |
| 12:12 | nevermind | |
| 12:12 | hi marcelr | |
| 12:12 | marcelr | hey drojf |
| 12:15 | drojf | i get this, any ideas what it means?`http://paste.koha-community.org/323 |
| 12:16 | trying to get it working with newer catmandu and stuff | |
| 12:17 | Joubu | drojf: I did not get this one, but got errors in ES log because I was using Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch instead of Catmandu::Store::Elasticsearch |
| 12:17 | S vs s | |
| 12:18 | drojf | hm yes i think i saw something like that before |
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| 12:31 | * druthb | waves blearily. |
| 12:31 | francharb | good morning all |
| 12:33 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
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| 12:38 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:39 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 12:40 | druthb | g'morning, oleonard. :) |
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| 12:46 | eythian | hi oleopard |
| 12:49 | LibraryClaire | wahanui? |
| 12:49 | :O | |
| 12:49 | drojf | ding dong the bot is dead |
| 12:49 | LibraryClaire | I thought it was too quiet |
| 12:49 | oleonard | wahanui is having a poolside beer with rangi right now |
| 12:51 | drojf | why don't we have a pool bar for meetings? |
| 12:51 | * druthb | seconds drofj's idea |
| 12:51 | pokes at her keyboard, and tries again: drojf. | |
| 12:52 | drojf | druthb! |
| 12:52 | druthb | drojf! |
| 12:52 | drojf | :) |
| 12:52 | now i forgot what i was going to do because pool | |
| 12:55 | jajm | hi #koha |
| 12:55 | marcelr | hi jajm |
| 12:56 | jajm | marcelr, i think i'll be able to qa 18070 today :) |
| 12:56 | marcelr | ok that would be very nice :) |
| 13:02 | hey kidclamp | |
| 13:02 | kidclamp | hi marcelr |
| 13:02 | marcelr | are you chairing the meeting? |
| 13:03 | kidclamp | if tcohen isn;t here I suppose so |
| 13:03 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 13:03 | marcelr | where is tcohen when you need him ;) |
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| 13:03 | kidclamp | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 22 February |
| 13:03 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Feb 22 13:03:58 2017 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 13:03 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 13:03 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:03 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_22_february' |
| 13:04 | kidclamp | #topic Introductions |
| 13:04 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:04 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum |
| 13:04 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 13:04 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 13:04 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, USA |
| 13:04 | LibraryClaire | #info Claire Gravely, BSZ, Germany |
| 13:04 | jajm | #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre, France |
| 13:04 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 13:04 | drojf | #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany |
| 13:05 | benjamin | #info Benjamin Rokseth , Oslo, Norway |
| 13:05 | kidclamp | #topic Announcements |
| 13:05 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:05 | marcelr | I have two small 'announcements' |
| 13:06 | The first is: Three sec patches are still pending: 18010, 18019 in NSO and 18124 in SO. | |
| 13:06 | d_antonakis | #info Dimitris Antonakis, Athens, Greece |
| 13:06 | marcelr | 18124 is from Joubu, the other two from me |
| 13:06 | and second: | |
| 13:06 | On the auth merge front I am hoping for a QA of 18070 from Julian maybe today and I will submit the next patch set 9988 very soon. Will be the last fundamental change to merge in this series. After that some smaller things left. | |
| 13:06 | kidclamp | #info three security patches need attention: 18010, 18019, 18124 |
| 13:07 | marcelr | So hope for some feedback then |
| 13:07 | kidclamp | #info Authority merge set needs QA on 18070 - is waiting for patch on 9988 (coming soon) and then fundamental changes will be done |
| 13:07 | thanks marcelr | |
| 13:08 | Lets ping khall and see if we have release announcements | |
| 13:08 | barton | #info Barton Chittenden, BWS, Louisville KY |
| 13:09 | kidclamp | skipping 17.05 for now |
| 13:09 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 13:09 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:09 | kidclamp | cait? |
| 13:09 | cait | yes? |
| 13:09 | ah | |
| 13:09 | sorry, was looking at the bugs :) | |
| 13:09 | #info 16.011.04 was reeleased today, it includes 3 enh and 41 bugfixes | |
| 13:10 | I think we killed a lot of bad bugs with this one, getting it nice and stable | |
| 13:10 | kidclamp | cait++ |
| 13:10 | marcelr | cait++ |
| 13:10 | cait | hope there is not much more to be found :) |
| 13:10 | druthb | cait++ |
| 13:11 | cait | that's it basically |
| 13:11 | druthb | #info D Ruth Bavousett, no one of consequence |
| 13:11 | cait | i plan to stick to schedule for the next one as well |
| 13:11 | that's it from me :) | |
| 13:11 | kidclamp | any updates jajm or mtj? |
| 13:12 | thanks cait | |
| 13:12 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 13:12 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:12 | kidclamp | no Joubu today? |
| 13:12 | Joubu | yep |
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| 13:13 | barton | [aside] /me notes that druthb *is* of consequence; he uses her scripts often ;-) |
| 13:13 | kidclamp | ah, ops list :-) |
| 13:13 | jajm | kidclamp, 3.22.17 was released on monday, but nothing special with this release :) |
| 13:13 | Joubu | I have things to highglitht, but for next topic |
| 13:13 | druthb | [aside] /me thanks barton |
| 13:13 | Joubu | I need help to QA patches, nothing new, nothing else... |
| 13:13 | kidclamp | #info 3.22.17 was released monday |
| 13:14 | #info Keep QAing please and watch the queue doesn't get too big | |
| 13:14 | marcelr | 65 now |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 13:14 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:14 | kidclamp | go for it Joubu |
| 13:15 | Joubu | So, 5 things to highlight: |
| 13:15 | 1. As we now have marcxml out of bibitems, we need bug 17898, which is really easy to test | |
| 13:15 | * drojf | queues in line |
| 13:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a way to automatically convert SQL reports |
| 13:15 | Joubu | 2. Bug 17961 should be very easy to test and QA, it just adds tests. Please make it move forward quickly |
| 13:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17961 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , TT syntax for notices - Prove we have an equivalent for our historical custom syntax |
| 13:15 | * kidclamp | queues behind drojf |
| 13:15 | marcelr | still assigned |
| 13:15 | Joubu | see deps |
| 13:15 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 13:15 | Joubu | it's an omnibus |
| 13:15 | 3. bug 16846 is a big one, but should be interesting to get it in. We will manipulate patron object (almost) everywhere | |
| 13:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Move patron related code to Koha::Patron |
| 13:16 | kidclamp | #info please test 17898, convertin greports after marcxml move |
| 13:16 | Joubu | still assigned, no patches, too many deps, but there is a remote branch with evrything on it |
| 13:16 | kidclamp | #info bug 17961 adds test, please test and qa |
| 13:16 | Joubu | 4. Hea has been moved to another server, I will be able to access it to clean the DB and upgrade the code. It would be great to get somebody involves on bug 18066 |
| 13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Hea - Version 2 |
| 13:16 | Joubu | And finally, 5. We need testers from different countries for the onboarding tool ft (bug 17855 and bug 18039). I provided patches for 18039 and will QA 17855. Cannot test 18039 |
| 13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
| 13:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18039 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move the mandatory and optional files for non-english languages into 'default' directory so bug 17855 permits use of other languages | |
| 13:16 | marcelr | bug 18039 |
| 13:16 | kidclamp | #info bug 16846 move to Koha::Patron - dependency tree needs help |
| 13:17 | oleonard | I started to test 18066 Joubu, but ran out of time. I hope to take another crack at it |
| 13:17 | cait | i will try to test the german installer for the onboarding tool |
| 13:17 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 13:17 | Joubu | Nothing really, I highlight these things in the last 2 "what's on in koha-devel" email, but do not get help |
| 13:17 | cait | but bit short of time for the next 2 weeks |
| 13:17 | kidclamp | #info bug 17855 and 18039 Onboarding tool needs broad testing from different countries |
| 13:18 | LibraryClaire | I can take a look at the 17898 |
| 13:18 | Joubu | About the lang isntaller, we may need to discuss about removing ru-RU and uk-UA... |
| 13:18 | marcelr | they seem unsupported |
| 13:19 | send a mail to the list? | |
| 13:19 | and remove them? | |
| 13:19 | you can still find them in git, update them and get them back in later | |
| 13:19 | Joubu | yep |
| 13:20 | cait | i think maybe send an email to the translate list |
| 13:20 | the translations I think are maintained | |
| 13:20 | i tmight lack someone comfortable with git | |
| 13:20 | would not be nice to break it for them - what's he problem? | |
| 13:20 | coudl we restructure to bring it in line with the other installers? | |
| 13:20 | Joubu | #info bug 14302 has a patch, to kick GRS-1 related code |
| 13:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14302 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove GRS1 indexing related code |
| 13:21 | marcelr | cait: if they are half english, why keep them? |
| 13:21 | cait | why not keep them? |
| 13:21 | kidclamp | #info discussion on maintenance/removal of ru-RU and uk-UA as they seem unsupported |
| 13:21 | marcelr | because no one maintains them |
| 13:21 | cait | if there is a bit translated, it's still helping |
| 13:21 | i can read a bit of russian | |
| 13:21 | i can try to take a look | |
| 13:22 | Joubu | IIRC They were broken for a while, and nobody complained (ok it's not a valid reason) |
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| 13:23 | Joubu | The other way around is to push the onboarding patches and test the feature after it's in... |
| 13:23 | * Joubu | is hidden already |
| 13:23 | cait | i can still see you! :) |
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| 13:24 | marcelr | yeah Joubu: why not dismiss the qa team |
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| 13:24 | Joubu | Yesterday Alex suggested to push it for English, then push it for other languages |
| 13:24 | cait | the problem was that it breaks the ohter languages |
| 13:24 | Joubu | to me it's not really acceptable to have a feature for English only |
| 13:24 | cait | yeah |
| 13:24 | Joubu | nobody will care for others for sure |
| 13:24 | cait | so that's a big regression |
| 13:24 | maybe we can give it a bit more time? | |
| 13:24 | Joubu | if can still if else... |
| 13:25 | we can still if else... | |
| 13:25 | cait | if else? |
| 13:25 | Joubu | if english: onboarding |
| 13:25 | else: no onboarding | |
| 13:25 | cait | ah |
| 13:26 | it hink we should offer it for all languages | |
| 13:26 | drojf | for all but english |
| 13:26 | cait | as a goal - still time until release |
| 13:26 | drojf | sorry |
| 13:26 | kidclamp | need a vote or still discussion and waiting? I think maybe we should send something to list |
| 13:26 | Joubu | it's on bug 17855 comment 166 (last one) |
| 13:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Signed Off , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha |
| 13:26 | cait | can we postpone it till next meeting? |
| 13:26 | kidclamp | agreed |
| 13:26 | cait | and see if it gets tested until then? |
| 13:26 | Joubu | I sent something on the list already... |
| 13:27 | kidclamp | indded you did :-) |
| 13:27 | Joubu | yes, move on |
| 13:28 | kidclamp | drojf? |
| 13:28 | drojf | oh |
| 13:28 | * drojf | panics |
| 13:28 | drojf | i tried to backport/build all packages related to elasticsearch in koha. that includes getting libsearch-elasticsearch-perl into debian, backporting libcatmandu-perl 1.03* from debian unstable, packaging libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl (not in debian yet) and some dependencies |
| 13:28 | i had to change the package dependencies for some of the backports to make them work in debian jessie. i have emailed the maintainer to check if that may have any negative consequences, i don't think it does. they were build dependencies and the build worked anyway | |
| 13:28 | i have not uploaded it yet and i wonder if it makes sense to put it in a separate repository first. it could break dev setups and it might be nicer to have a choice | |
| 13:29 | i tried a koha + ES setup with it and indexing gave an error. it may or may not have anything to do with the packages. i have not investigated a lot. http://paste.koha-community.org/323 | |
| 13:29 | oleonard | [aside] drojf types fast when he panics |
| 13:29 | drojf | i do |
| 13:29 | :D | |
| 13:29 | kidclamp | #info discussion on onboarding tool - will table to next meeting to decide if push with english first and other langugages as they are tested or how to proceed |
| 13:29 | druthb | [aside] /me chuckles |
| 13:30 | drojf | that's all from me |
| 13:30 | [aside] aside is the new off? | |
| 13:31 | kidclamp | #info Mirko is working on packaging ES dependencies but has hit an error or two - investigating as a separeate repository until all wrinkles ironed out |
| 13:31 | #link http://paste.koha-community.org/323 Error Mirko encountered | |
| 13:31 | thanks Joubu drojf | |
| 13:32 | I just had a quick thing, working on facets a buit with elastic and hit some snags while trying to change language codes into display values | |
| 13:32 | I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on storing the display values in elastic when indexing as opposed to feteching them from codes when displaying | |
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| 13:33 | Joubu | You do not want to store the display values |
| 13:33 | kidclamp | why? |
| 13:33 | Joubu | if they change, you will have to reindex everything |
| 13:33 | kidclamp | hmm...true |
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| 13:33 | kidclamp | how often do they change :-) |
| 13:34 | eythian | kidclamp: you'll have to deal with multiple languages too |
| 13:34 | kidclamp | ah, if they use translations, fair point |
| 13:34 | Joubu | They should not change so often, but I do not think it's something to do |
| 13:34 | It's the same for other AVs | |
| 13:35 | kidclamp | good points all, thnak you - had only breifly thought so far |
| 13:35 | Joubu | kidclamp: do you have a bug number to follow? |
| 13:35 | kidclamp | will be followup to bug 17169 to add language facets |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17169 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Add facets for ccode to elasticsearch |
| 13:36 | kidclamp | but language tables are ugly |
| 13:36 | Joubu | yes they are... |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | that is all for me |
| 13:37 | Joubu | kidclamp: last time I played with that it was for bug 17762 |
| 13:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17762 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Ability to translate notices |
| 13:37 | cait | how would new ones get added? |
| 13:37 | i mean, where do you get the descriptons to feed into elastic? | |
| 13:37 | Joubu | There may be some things to help you |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | #info kidclamp will followup 17169 with language facets |
| 13:37 | currently they come from language tables cait | |
| 13:37 | cait | ah |
| 13:37 | kidclamp | thanks Joubu |
| 13:38 | cait | there was a bug somewhere to move those out of the db |
| 13:38 | there is no way for people to add translations there easily and htey are very incomplete | |
| 13:38 | kidclamp | ah, I briefly remember that |
| 13:38 | I don't think we have guidleines to review today | |
| 13:38 | cait | i thik i'd prefer something that stores the language display text in a translatable file |
| 13:38 | Joubu | bug 12017 |
| 13:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Patch doesn't apply , Move language description out of database |
| 13:39 | kidclamp | #info bug 12017 may help with language code/display issues and solve other issues |
| 13:40 | next meeting? | |
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| 13:40 | kidclamp | or anyone else for discussion? |
| 13:40 | Joubu | tcohen: tooooolate |
| 13:40 | kidclamp | tcohen maybe :-b |
| 13:41 | marcelr | tcohen: quickly introduce yourself |
| 13:41 | tcohen | hi |
| 13:42 | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi | |
| 13:42 | * tcohen | is sick today, but here hehe |
| 13:42 | druthb | [aside] applauds |
| 13:43 | kidclamp | #topic Next meeting |
| 13:43 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:43 | kidclamp | reviewing survey last meeting we think 19UTC may be better than 20, any opposition or support? |
| 13:43 | tcohen | support |
| 13:44 | oleonard | support |
| 13:44 | marcelr | if we go to 13utc the time after |
| 13:44 | LibraryClaire | marcelr they alternate :) |
| 13:44 | marcelr | yes |
| 13:44 | kidclamp | yes 13 works well for many of us :-) |
| 13:44 | marcelr | i know |
| 13:44 | khall | ack, missed everything ; ) |
| 13:45 | kidclamp | heh |
| 13:45 | once we set date you can comment khall | |
| 13:45 | March 8, 19 UTC? | |
| 13:45 | LibraryClaire | 8th March 19 UTC? |
| 13:45 | * LibraryClaire | is too slow |
| 13:46 | kidclamp | LibraryClaire++ |
| 13:46 | +1 | |
| 13:47 | cait | +1 |
| 13:47 | oleonard | +1 |
| 13:47 | Joubu | +1 |
| 13:47 | barton | +1 |
| 13:47 | kidclamp | #info Next meeting Wednesday, 8th March 19 UTC |
| 13:47 | [aside] before the torrent of downvotes :-D | |
| 13:48 | #topic Update from the Release manager (17.05) | |
| 13:48 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (17.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 22 February) | |
| 13:48 | kidclamp | khall? |
| 13:48 | khall | Nothing too noteworthy to bring up |
| 13:48 | Enhanced overdrive integration has been pushed to master! | |
| 13:49 | kidclamp | #info Overdrive integration pushed |
| 13:49 | khall | that's the only big thing I can think of |
| 13:49 | * oleonard | is getting an error related to that... Will bring it up after the meeting |
| 13:49 | kidclamp | thnaks khall |
| 13:50 | last call? | |
| 13:50 | #endmeeting | |
| 13:50 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct - https://koha-community.org/abo[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use http://paste.koha-community.org for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 13:50 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Feb 22 13:50:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:50 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-22-13.03.html | |
| 13:50 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]7-02-22-13.03.txt | |
| 13:50 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]22-13.03.log.html | |
| 13:50 | kidclamp | thanks all |
| 13:50 | marcelr | thx kidclamp |
| 13:50 | LibraryClaire | kidclamp++ |
| 13:51 | drojf | can anyone tell me what versions of Catmandu and Catmandu::Store::Elasticsearch are used in kohadevbox? (or libcatmandu-perl and libcatmandu-store-elasticsearch-perl, but i think tcohen said they are cpan'd) -- kidclamp or Joubu maybe |
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| 13:52 | tcohen | drojf: they are cpaned |
| 13:52 | Joubu | drojf: are you running the last version of kohadevbox? |
| 13:52 | drojf | tcohen: ah yes i typed that before you came in :D so it's the latest version from cpan? |
| 13:52 | Joubu | and recreated one fresh box? |
| 13:52 | drojf | Joubu: i am not running it at all |
| 13:52 | i just want to know what versions you use :) | |
| 13:52 | tcohen | if you choose elasticsearch_version: '5.' |
| 13:53 | Joubu | ok, so you need Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch |
| 13:53 | not minus s[earch] | |
| 13:53 | just what I said before the meeting | |
| 13:53 | tcohen | vagrantkohadevbox:tmp$ pmvers Catmandu |
| 13:53 | 1.0305 | |
| 13:53 | vagrantkohadevbox:tmp$ pmvers Catmandu::Store::ElasticSearch |
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| 13:53 | 0.0504 | |
| 13:53 | drojf | thanks tcohen that is what i was looking for |
| 13:54 | tcohen | kohadevbox uses the packaged ones if elasticsearch_version = 1.x |
| 13:54 | just saying | |
| 13:54 | not sure what are you trying to do | |
| 13:54 | oleonard | I'm getting an error in master when logging in to the staff client: "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Unknown column 'me.overdrive_auth_token' in 'field list' at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/Objects.pm line 83" |
| 13:55 | Looks like a db update didn't run? I tried running updatedatabase manually and it didn't trigger anything. | |
| 13:55 | drojf | tcohen: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]7-02-22#i_1910250 |
| 13:55 | i wanted to know if it is a problem with the version numbers. but the packaged ones are similar | |
| 13:55 | kidclamp | restart memcached and run update? |
| 13:55 | drojf | i use 1.7 though |
| 13:55 | maybe it works with 5.x | |
| 13:55 | ES that is | |
| 13:56 | oleonard | Ah good point I didn't try that |
| 13:56 | kidclamp++ | |
| 13:56 | * kidclamp | shakes fist at memcached |
| 14:04 | tcohen | drojf: could you evaluate packaging Mojo::JWT? |
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| 14:09 | drojf | tcohen: dpkg-deb: building package `libmojo-jwt-perl' in `../libmojo-jwt-perl_0.05-1_all.deb' |
| 14:09 | seems to work ok | |
| 14:09 | no weird dependencies | |
| 14:10 | tcohen: for which bug? | |
| 14:12 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 14:12 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0°C (11:00 AM ART on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:13 | tcohen | drojf: I haven't filed it yet |
| 14:13 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 14:13 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (2:50 PM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 28.80 in 975 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:14 | tcohen | but basically adding and authentication endpoint |
| 14:14 | for third parties to consume our API | |
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| 14:15 | drojf | tcohen: ok. the package seems easy to do. if you choose to use it tell me and i can open a bug at debian |
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| 14:15 | tcohen | drojf: please do :-D |
| 14:15 | drojf | i don't want to maintain stuff that does not go into koha in the end :D so better use it then :P |
| 14:18 | tcohen | fair enough |
| 14:20 | Joubu | tcohen: What about the *£%ù# jenkins badges? |
| 14:22 | 16.11.x says Clover Code Coverage - 57.8% method 5212/6417, conditional 8281/20570, statement 27361/43689. | |
| 14:22 | Master says Clover Code Coverage - 25.3% method 3203/5515, conditional 1329/18644, statement 11371/38665. | |
| 14:23 | sounds weird... | |
| 14:23 | ... and buggy | |
| 14:24 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 14:24 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 15.8°C (8:17 AM CST on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:25 | drojf | Joubu: you need libtemplate-stash-autoescaping-perl for 13618? or you use a custom version? i am not sure if i understand the bug correctly |
| 14:26 | Joubu | drojf: it does not work |
| 14:26 | the idea was to use a custom version, lighter | |
| 14:26 | ... and buggy | |
| 14:26 | :) | |
| 14:26 | drojf | ah ok you are removing it. my brain read the patch backwards. lol |
| 14:26 | Joubu | I am stuck with this one |
| 14:26 | * drojf | blames no coffee |
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| 14:30 | kellym | heybywater we are training at Hudson County Community |
| 14:30 | khall | hi kellym! |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | Hi Kellym |
| 14:31 | kellym | hi kidclamp |
| 14:31 | jzairo | hi kellym |
| 14:31 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I understand now why you didn't find the x-koha-authorization in the Swagger-spec such a good idea. Looking at http://swagger.io/specification/#scopesObject |
| 14:31 | I don't remember seeing this when I first started working with Swagger2 | |
| 14:32 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:32 | kivilahtio | ashimema: But looks like tehre is now a standard way of defining what permissions endpoints need and what permissions are available in the API |
| 14:32 | ashimema | indeed |
| 14:32 | kivilahtio | which is realyl nice |
| 14:32 | ashimema | there has been for years mate.. that's what I was trying to get accross ;) |
| 14:32 | kivilahtio | really? |
| 14:32 | I might have missed this because I completely tried to avoid any OAuth stuff back then | |
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| 14:33 | ashimema | the oath scopes stuff has been there since I first started working with swagger ;) |
| 14:33 | kivilahtio | ashimema: ok |
| 14:33 | ashimema: this is almost 100% what we have in Koha now. | |
| 14:33 | ashimema | I'm close to having an oath patch.. been fixing the library for the last week |
| 14:33 | kivilahtio | ashimema: well. We'll look into replacing x-koha-permission with this |
| 14:33 | ashimema: what exactly does your OAuth2-patch do? | |
| 14:34 | ashimema: I am looking into implementing a OAuth2 password-grant flow? | |
| 14:34 | a very simplistic version without the authorization server component | |
| 14:34 | ashimema | it'll do all four flows ;) |
| 14:34 | and use JWT for transport.. | |
| 14:34 | will also allow for revoking of jst's using jti identifiers | |
| 14:34 | kivilahtio | ashimema: how did you manage to get JWT into OAuth2? |
| 14:35 | ashimema | also.. tcohen is working on a first step to jwt auth route in koha's api whilst I'm still bashing this end out |
| 14:35 | kivilahtio | ashimema: are you using it as the access_token? |
| 14:35 | ashimema | easy.. the library supports it natively.. you just have to be sensible in your callbacks |
| 14:36 | access and refresh tokens are both jwt (I've not worked out how to do one but not the other) | |
| 14:36 | kivilahtio | ashimema: according to the spec, if you get the access_token, you must use it in the Authorization: Bearer <JWT> |
| 14:36 | tcohen | https://snag.gy/elLOCN.jpg |
| 14:36 | ashimema | I would prefer an opaque refresh token I think.. though there's no real justification behind that |
| 14:36 | kivilahtio | ashimema: you dont need much info in the refresh token? |
| 14:36 | ashimema | yeah.. that's where it goes |
| 14:37 | nice owkr tcohen :) | |
| 14:37 | kivilahtio | tcohen: nice work |
| 14:37 | tcohen: your token endpoint is even the same as mine :) | |
| 14:37 | ashimema | my oauth is still a little way behind this.. working through amendments to the library has been time consuming |
| 14:37 | kivilahtio | I have it drawn right here on my sheets |
| 14:37 | drojf | tcohen: ok it seems that Mojo::JWT brings a lot of happiness to people ;) |
| 14:38 | tcohen | hahah |
| 14:38 | * ashimema | would impliment on oauth/token and oauth/authorize endpoints.. so there would be no collisions ;) |
| 14:38 | kivilahtio | drojf: I am concerend about how to revoke it |
| 14:38 | ashimema: that is what you must do? | |
| 14:38 | ashimema | kivi.. you keep a copy of the jti and revoke that |
| 14:38 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I speced it to /api/v1/auth as the authorization endpoint |
| 14:38 | ashimema: then /api/v1/auth/token as the token endpoint | |
| 14:39 | ashimema | what I do is keep a copy of the jti in the db, then short cache that so it's fast to lookup |
| 14:39 | kivilahtio | ashimema: what do you mean short-cache? |
| 14:39 | ashimema: in memcached? In Mojo cache? | |
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| 14:41 | kivilahtio | ashimema: tcohen: so is there anything I can do to help you out? |
| 14:42 | ashimema | in my case I memcache it and then ensure I destroy that cache when you call revoke |
| 14:42 | kivilahtio | I need to implement OAuth2 Password grant |
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| 14:42 | kivilahtio | ashimema: tcohen: I presume you are using Koha as the authorization server as well as the resource server? |
| 14:42 | * ashimema | is currently working on all this.. explaining it is harder than just writing it and showing you ;) |
| 14:42 | tcohen | kivilahtio: yes |
| 14:43 | it is a simple implementation to allow use of the API by third parties | |
| 14:43 | ashimema | tcohens stuff is a great first step.. my aim is a followup with the rest of the stack |
| 14:43 | tcohen | ashimema is working on a proper OAuth2 server implementation using the Mojo plugin |
| 14:43 | kivilahtio | tcohen: have you already done the Swagger-spec changes to change x-koha-auth to use the OAuth claims? |
| 14:44 | tcohen | kivilahtio: nope, and I won't for now |
| 14:44 | kivilahtio | tcohen: maybe we can do that |
| 14:44 | ashimema | that will come with oauth |
| 14:44 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 14:44 | * ashimema | goes back to working on it instead of talking aobut it ;) |
| 14:44 | kivilahtio | ok ok |
| 14:44 | ashimema: any idea when you have something to sign off? | |
| 14:45 | ashimema | weeks not days from now.. at least.. |
| 14:46 | I'm working on oauth from 3 directions at the moment.. implimenting it in a pure mojo app we already have running.. using that for testing and clarifying understanding.. submitting bugfixes upstream to the oauth plugin and net::oath2::server distribution.. and then it'll be the koha piece | |
| 14:46 | kivilahtio | ashimema: sounds about what I was going to do |
| 14:46 | ashimema | koha's got the most moving parts.. so i wanted to make sure I fully understood auth and the plugin before attacking the koha end |
| 14:46 | kivilahtio | ashimema: I won't keep you from it then |
| 14:46 | me too | |
| 14:46 | it is really confusing | |
| 14:47 | ashimema | well.. i'm roughly half way through.. so not on the koha bit yet.. writing the oauth lib patches and working with Lee allot at the moment |
| 14:47 | kivilahtio | <tcohen> it is a simple implementation to allow use of the API by third parties |
| 14:47 | Doesnät Koha laready have a simple auth implemetnation? | |
| 14:48 | tcohen: https://github.com/KohaSuomi/k[…]ths/auth.json#L46 | |
| 14:48 | hmm | |
| 14:48 | tcohen: maybe that never was shared with the community | |
| 14:48 | tcohen | i think you filed a bug, or was Julian |
| 14:49 | kivilahtio | we have been using that simple username + password endpoint to get the CGISESSID via the API |
| 14:49 | tcohen | but you made it dependent on a major Auth.pm rewrite |
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| 14:49 | kivilahtio | ah yeah, now I remember |
| 14:49 | :) | |
| 14:50 | tcohen: you can kopypaste our code :) | |
| 14:50 | tcohen: actually the problem we have with this endpoint is the IP protection on the CGISESSID | |
| 14:51 | the national OPAC has a load balancer which sends requests from a pool of incoming IP-addresses | |
| 14:51 | so we need to figure out a way to authenticate securely without locking the session to IP | |
| 14:54 | tcohen | kivilahtio: you need to use my token-based authentication |
| 14:54 | kivilahtio | tcohen: what do you mean? |
| 14:54 | tcohen: where is that | |
| 14:55 | tcohen: or do you mean the work-in-progress -one? | |
| 14:55 | tcohen | that one, yes |
| 14:56 | i will try to attach it to a bug report, probably tomorrow once I get out of bed | |
| 14:56 | kivilahtio | nice |
| 14:57 | tcohen | it is a small, not-perfect, implementation that allows creating a JWT to be used in a Bearer Authorization header |
| 14:57 | kivilahtio | tcohen: is it based on Mojolicious? |
| 14:57 | Mojo::JWT | |
| 14:57 | I guess so | |
| 14:58 | eythian | kivilahtio: what's wrong with using IP affinity on your load balancer? |
| 14:58 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "{ "/auth/token": { "post": { "" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/324 |
| 14:58 | eythian | or maybe persistance, but swings/roundabouts |
| 14:58 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I was planning on having the API-client authorization as a Authorization: Basic <client apikeydigest>, <end-user crednetials JWT> |
| 14:59 | eythian: their load balancer | |
| 14:59 | eythian: I don't know | |
| 14:59 | eythian | ah right |
| 14:59 | kivilahtio | eythian: quite frankly I havenät thought about that |
| 15:00 | tcohen: I think we need to somehow have two credentials in the API request. One from the client, as the Basic-auth, and one from the end-user (Bearer JWT)whose credentials are used by the client | |
| 15:01 | tcohen: well I don't really know. That was something I was hoping for. | |
| 15:01 | tcohen: This way you can see from the request that there is a client who is using the api with somebody elses credentials | |
| 15:01 | I think that is important | |
| 15:02 | eythian: I wonder can we use IP affinity on their load balancer? | |
| 15:03 | tcohen | kivilahtio: i don't follow |
| 15:03 | not my best day, though | |
| 15:03 | kivilahtio | tcohen: me neither :) |
| 15:03 | eythian | kivilahtio: you'll need to do your own research to see if it suits, but it's a way of avoiding some of the session issues that can happen with load balancing |
| 15:03 | kivilahtio | maybe ashimema can comment on requiring both the client API Basic auth and the end-user Bearer JWT |
| 15:04 | eythian | https://imgflip.com/i/1k4jiu <-- tcohen |
| 15:04 | tcohen | hahaha |
| 15:05 | kivilahtio | C4::Search isnt that bad :) |
| 15:05 | I had to tweak it a bit | |
| 15:05 | but it takes some years to get used to | |
| 15:05 | :) | |
| 15:06 | tcohen | kivilahtio: my idea is that the API consumer has API credentials it can use through the /auth/token endpoint to get a JWT (generated by Koha) that it will use in further calls to the API as a Bearer in the Authorization header |
| 15:06 | kivilahtio | I am fearful that the new Koha::SearchEngine might not be any better in the end. The problem is that you can never get rid of complexity by refactoring. You can only hide it better :) |
| 15:07 | tcohen: are you speaking of the Client credentials grant type? | |
| 15:07 | tcohen | sort of |
| 15:07 | kivilahtio | sort of :) |
| 15:08 | tcohen | i mean, i'm implementing that |
| 15:08 | kivilahtio | ok |
| 15:08 | tcohen: so you have a explicit strong trust use-case | |
| 15:08 | tcohen | yes |
| 15:09 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I don't want to give the API consumer itself any other permission that to use another users credentials to do stuff |
| 15:09 | tcohen | my only problem is that as we have a strong trust use-case, what is the point of such complexity |
| 15:09 | kivilahtio | tcohen: well this is just a glorified basic auth with Authorization: Basic API-consumer-id.api_secret |
| 15:10 | tcohen | it is |
| 15:10 | that's why I'm in doubt about it | |
| 15:10 | kivilahtio | tcohen: I have to agree this OAuth2 is complex |
| 15:10 | tcohen: but if you think of the access_token as the CGISESSID equivalent | |
| 15:10 | this doenst look so bad | |
| 15:10 | and you upgrade the CGISESSID with JWT | |
| 15:11 | tcohen | that was the original idea |
| 15:11 | kivilahtio | I guess the good thing is that there is a standard w ecan say our API follows |
| 15:11 | tcohen | i'm hoping to see ashimema's Oauth2 implementation soon to QA it |
| 15:12 | in the meantime, we can have /auth/token and /auth/session | |
| 15:12 | if you want ot | |
| 15:12 | kivilahtio | tcohen: this Client Credentials Grant is just password+username login using the shared secret |
| 15:12 | so it is good to havea formal recognition on it | |
| 15:12 | tcohen: I think it would be better to have everything under OAuth2 | |
| 15:13 | tcohen: because the /auth/session is just a simple version of Resource Owner Password Credentials Grant | |
| 15:13 | or is it? | |
| 15:14 | hmm. looks like according to RFC6749 that the Authorization: Basic czZCaGRSa3F0MzpnWDFmQmF0M2JW is needed | |
| 15:14 | marcelr | thx jajm++ |
| 15:14 | kivilahtio | so this would imply that this "Resource Owner Password Credentials Grant" can only be used with a shared api_secret |
| 15:15 | so then it would be different from the plain username+password in /auth/session | |
| 15:15 | eythian | kivilahtio: that contains a password, if that was a real password, you probably want to be changing it |
| 15:15 | kivilahtio | eythian: thanks for the tip |
| 15:15 | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-4.3.2 | |
| 15:15 | you can find the password from here :) | |
| 15:15 | eythian | hah |
| 15:15 | as you were then :) | |
| 15:15 | kivilahtio | eythian: thank you for the warning tho! |
| 15:16 | jajm | marcelr, np, tell me when other authority bugs await QA ;) |
| 15:16 | marcelr | cool |
| 15:16 | i am struggling with 9988 | |
| 15:16 | but will be ready soon | |
| 15:16 | eythian | https://dhavalkapil.com/blogs/[…]e-OAuth-Protocol/ <-- while you're looking into oauth, this popped up the other day :) |
| 15:19 | kivilahtio | eythian: just what I needed |
| 15:19 | eythian: I was kinda thinking that phew. I am getting things under control | |
| 15:19 | eythian | happy to help ;) |
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| 15:23 | tcohen | Joubu: coverage is wrong because the run died due to missing dep (WebService/ILS/OverDrive/Patron.pm |
| 15:23 | ) | |
| 15:25 | kivilahtio | tcohen: ashimema: How do you intende to register the API consumer (client) in Koha? |
| 15:25 | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-2 | |
| 15:25 | I was planing on using the borrowers-table | |
| 15:26 | Since there already is the api_key-table with borrowers | |
| 15:26 | or atleast that is what jajm created when we were pushing the first patches | |
| 15:26 | and I finalzied into somethin nice | |
| 15:26 | This way every user in our library can make their own API key from OPAC | |
| 15:27 | and start consuming our API with the permissions they have | |
| 15:27 | I think this is great! | |
| 15:27 | And this is one of the marketing things I use here to sell our API | |
| 15:27 | that everyone can write thei own app to interact with Koha | |
| 15:27 | tcohen | kivilahtio: my plan is to resurrect those patches this week |
| 15:28 | stripping the Auth refactoring stuff | |
| 15:28 | and have /auth/token use that table | |
| 15:28 | to get the key/secret stuff | |
| 15:29 | kivilahtio | tcohen: dont hesitate to steal from here |
| 15:29 | https://github.com/KohaSuomi/k[…]c/opac-apikeys.pl | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | kivilahtio: yes, that's on the bug, at least some version of it |
| 15:29 | kivilahtio | it is important to use the Koha::ApiKeys |
| 15:29 | tcohen | you asked what you could help with |
| 15:29 | kivilahtio | instead of having all the code in the opac/opac-apikeys.pl |
| 15:29 | tcohen | go remove the deps on the rewrite from Koha::ApiKeys |
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| 15:30 | kivilahtio | tcohen: good idea |
| 15:30 | tcohen: I can port this feature to latest master soon | |
| 15:30 | tcohen | bug 13920 |
| 15:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13920 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , API authentication system - proposal |
| 15:31 | tcohen | and remove the V1.pm changes |
| 15:31 | just leave the CRUD | |
| 15:33 | hm, it seems we only need to use Julian's patch | |
| 15:33 | kivilahtio | tcohen: yup |
| 15:34 | tcohen | 38ºC, better than earlier :-D |
| 15:36 | jajm | tcohen, kivilahtio, if you plan to resurrect bug 13920 i should warn you that there were strong opinions against it (iirc the main one was "don't write your own auth system, and use OAuth") |
| 15:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13920 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , API authentication system - proposal |
| 15:36 | kivilahtio | jajm: thanks for the warning |
| 15:36 | jajm: I agreee | |
| 15:36 | jajm: Now we are using OAuth :) | |
| 15:36 | jajm | okay, cool :) |
| 15:37 | kivilahtio | jajm: also I think we can get rid of the API key digest algorithm and use basic auth |
| 15:37 | because all traffic is via https | |
| 15:37 | so just send the api_key and api_username plaintext in the Authorization-header | |
| 15:37 | I guess this is what is intended in the OAuth2 spec | |
| 15:38 | ""[17:36:47] <kivilahtio> jajm: Now we are using OAuth :) "" I meant we are moving to OAuth, not using it atm | |
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| 15:41 | kivilahtio | jajm: tcohen: what do you think about changing the Swagger2-spec to YAML? |
| 15:41 | It is much much easier to read and edit in YAML | |
| 15:42 | https://github.com/KohaSuomi/H[…]gger/swagger.yaml | |
| 15:42 | tcohen | if I had time to invest, I'd rather spend it in migrating to OpenAPI |
| 15:43 | kivilahtio | tcohen: we are already doing that |
| 15:43 | tcohen: lari has finished the work on the endpoints already pushed to master | |
| 15:43 | tcohen: I guess it would have been kinda nice to tell you earlier | |
| 15:43 | tcohen: we already have a ton of new endpoints lari has done | |
| 15:43 | just check Lari Taskula in bugzilla | |
| 15:43 | jajm | kivilahtio, i think it's a matter of taste, both formats have pros and cons |
| 15:44 | kivilahtio | jajm: So far I have far less issues with YAML than JSON. |
| 15:44 | jajm: but please share your cons of YAML? | |
| 15:46 | jajm | kivilahtio, what i don't like about yaml is that whitespaces are significant |
| 15:47 | tcohen | I like YAML, because it is human-readable |
| 15:47 | kivilahtio | jajm: I feel you. I have found out that it is easier to fix whitespace indentation issues than to find missing ending punctuations |
| 15:47 | tcohen | for JSON you better use a tool to edit the files |
| 15:47 | kivilahtio | especialyl the neding pucntuations |
| 15:47 | especially the ending punctuations | |
| 15:48 | but I remember disliking YAML for the whitespace. But hacing used Ansible quite too much, I kinda learned to love YAML | |
| 15:52 | jajm | kivilahtio, also i'm never sure about the types, for instance if you write "key: 42", is 42 a string or an int ? "key: true" string or boolean ? maybe i don't like yaml because i don't know it enough, but JSON is simpler :) |
| 15:52 | kivilahtio | yeah |
| 15:52 | that was really awkward | |
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| 16:29 | ashimema | there's too much rambling to read back over all of that |
| 16:29 | * ashimema | was collecting kids from school |
| 16:29 | ashimema | But.. I think from the skim read that OAuth basically solves all over those issues. |
| 16:30 | please don't add client records to the borrowers table though.. that's a terrible idea | |
| 16:30 | the point is that you need to identify all three parties involved in tansactions | |
| 16:30 | client, resource and owner | |
| 16:30 | Koha is the 'resource'.. or rather all the stuff in it is.. | |
| 16:31 | client is whatever system is consuming the api | |
| 16:31 | and finally owner is the 'user' that wants to interact with the resource | |
| 16:31 | you don't need to have two Auhorization headers at all | |
| 16:31 | you need to use an OAuth flow.. | |
| 16:32 | for instance.. UserPassword flow as you seem to really like to use as an example | |
| 16:33 | you hit the /token endpoint with the username+password of the 'owner' in the query parameters.. but there's nothing in there stopping you from having the client_name and client_password (i.e. client credentials) in the Authorization header as a BASIC auth.. | |
| 16:33 | that way you are doing two auths.. | |
| 16:34 | the header is being used to authenticated the 'client' is who it says it is.. and then the query parameters are being used to authenticated the 'owner' (i.e. user) that the client wants to act for. | |
| 16:34 | you need to keep those parties seperate for the sake of sanity.. | |
| 16:34 | oh.. and PasswordAuth is the least secure of all methods.. it should only be allowed as a last resort | |
| 16:34 | and... it shouldn't support refresh tokens | |
| 16:35 | I think we should be focusing on implimenting Client Credentials Grant, Implicit Grant and Code Grant flows (but once you've done that it's not hard to also support Password Grant.. though I might suggest we don't for security reasons) | |
| 16:36 | * oleonard | has nothing to contribute but waves to ashimema |
| 16:36 | ashimema | anywho.. the patch will include additional tables for storing clients |
| 16:36 | hi oleonard | |
| 16:36 | ^ kivilahtio | |
| 16:36 | /,e goes back to cook tea for kids and then will be hacking on OAuth again this evening | |
| 16:37 | * cait | copies oleonard |
| 16:39 | kivilahtio | ashimema: if the password-grant is mixed with the client basic auth. I think that is very secure |
| 16:39 | possibly not as secure as the code-grant since you are redirected to a auth server | |
| 16:39 | ashimema: but the password-grant implies that the password is coming from a trusted source | |
| 16:40 | ashimema: I agree that it shoulnd't be used in the wild for public access | |
| 16:40 | ashimema: I am using it more like in a priviledge escalation manner | |
| 16:40 | ashimema: And I am planning to support refresh tokens, otherwise our 3rd party will jsut store our users passwords in their db | |
| 16:41 | ashimema: see the link I posted about borrowers-table -> api_keys-table | |
| 16:41 | ashimema: https://github.com/KohaSuomi/k[…]c/opac-apikeys.pl | |
| 16:42 | and from tcohen Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13920 | |
| 16:42 | huginn | 04Bug 13920: new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , API authentication system - proposal |
| 16:42 | kivilahtio | ashimema: our users must be able to generate their own API-keys |
| 16:42 | ashimema: the SIP2-clients are borrowers-rows, their borrower category is AUTOMAT | |
| 16:42 | ashimema: in the same fashion non-human API consumers can be AUTOMAT | |
| 16:42 | ashimema: anyway gotta go home | |
| 16:42 | wife misses ime | |
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| 17:15 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:39 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 17:39 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #217: "<slef> maybe I should chew their legs off, then use the sharp bony end to kill kittens...?" (added by mtompset at 03:29 PM, September 26, 2012) |
| 17:39 | jls | is today a bugfix release date? looked here but no longer seeing the calendar: https://koha-community.org/abo[…]release-schedule/ |
| 17:40 | just trying to identify why a new issue has surfaced at a few branch libraries.... thanks. | |
| 17:45 | cait | jls: yes, 16.11.04 has been released this morning |
| 17:45 | I think 16.05 is underway, 3.22 was a few days ago | |
| 17:46 | jls | yes but I thought there was a bugfix release on the 22nd of each month... We aren't scheduled for 16.11 yet. |
| 17:46 | trying to identify why a local issue has popped up today.... | |
| 17:46 | cait | sometimes the date is a bit off |
| 17:46 | which version are you on? | |
| 17:46 | jls | 16.05 |
| 17:46 | thanks | |
| 17:47 | cait | ah ok, i think mtj mentioned he was workin gon it this morning |
| 17:47 | best to watch the mailing list or the koha community website - it will be announced on both | |
| 17:47 | jls | okay |
| 17:47 | cait | https://koha-community.org/news/ |
| 17:47 | have to leave - by all! | |
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| 20:01 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 20:01 | mtompset | @seen mtj |
| 20:01 | huginn | mtompset: mtj was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 31 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mtj> congrats cait++ - i am working on a 16.05.x release now |
| 20:06 | * druthb | waves to talljoy, just because |
| 20:06 | talljoy | hi!!! |
| 20:06 | how goes things? | |
| 20:06 | druthb | perking along. Wedding in 10 days. |
| 20:07 | talljoy | oh my gosh |
| 20:07 | * magnuse | waves to #koha, just because |
| 20:07 | talljoy | are you going to be staying in houston? |
| 20:07 | or moving to a new love nest/lair somewhere else? | |
| 20:07 | druthb | He's moved into my Lair. :) |
| 20:08 | talljoy | awesome! |
| 20:08 | * druthb | waves to magnuse |
| 20:09 | * magnuse | waves to druthb and talljoy |
| 20:09 | talljoy | hi magnuse |
| 20:09 | magnuse | hiya talljoy |
| 20:11 | @wunder enbo | |
| 20:11 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 PM CET on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 28.82 in 976 hPa (Rising). |
| 20:16 | magnuse | it's rather pretty now, with all the snow |
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| 22:20 | mtompset | *sigh* |
| 22:20 | Anyone know why the OverDrive integration into OPAC is giving me an Internal Server Error? | |
| 22:21 | Or more accurately, why is it even trying, when I don't have OverDrive enabled? | |
| 22:23 | oleonard | mtompset: I'll suggest what kidclamp_away suggested earlier: Restart memecached and run db update manually |
| 22:23 | That worked for me (kohadevbox) | |
| 22:24 | mtompset | I'm running this on an oldschool git install, not a kohadevbox. |
| 22:24 | I have no overdrive variables set. | |
| 22:25 | I suspect this would work if i disabled, but had the variables set. | |
| 22:25 | The problem being, I don't know what values to set the system preferences to. | |
| 22:25 | because I am not subscribes to OverDrive. | |
| 22:25 | ^subscribed | |
| 22:25 | oleonard | What's the error mtompset? |
| 22:26 | mtompset | [Wed Feb 22 17:17:08.480655 2017] [cgi:error] [pid 7045] [client 192.168.71.100:52503] AH01215: [Wed Feb 22 17:17:08 2017] overdrive: OverDriveClientKey pref not set at /home/mtompset/kohaclone/opac/svc/overdrive line 38., referer: http://library.debiankoha.ca/c[…]koha/opac-user.pl |
| 22:26 | The URL is totally bogus. | |
| 22:27 | I'm pretty sure the croak causes the internal server error visible in the opac. | |
| 22:27 | Summary tab of opac-user. | |
| 22:28 | slight lag, and then internal server erorr is inserted. | |
| 22:29 | edveal | mtompset is this happing for all searches in your opac? |
| 22:29 | mtompset | and since there is a slight lag, I suspect this is some java script somewhere, but my tracing skills of javascript triggering is poor. |
| 22:29 | No... | |
| 22:29 | I'm attempting to test bug 18118 | |
| 22:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18118 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Unexpected behaviour with 'GoogleOpenIDConnect' and 'OpacPublic' syspref combination |
| 22:29 | mtompset | which caused me problems. |
| 22:29 | edveal | ah ok |
| 22:29 | mtompset | so I wrote bug 18144 |
| 22:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18144 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Removal of persona broke openidconnect |
| 22:29 | mtompset | so then I applied 18144 and 18118 |
| 22:29 | and tried to log in. | |
| 22:30 | when it puts me on the opac/opac-user.pl page, I get the internal server error as part of the check out data table. | |
| 22:30 | even though I have no overdrive stuff set. | |
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| 22:30 | oleonard | What about in master mtompset? |
| 22:31 | mtompset | This is master. |
| 22:32 | On an oldschool -- NOT kohadevbox -- git install. | |
| 22:32 | oleonard | You just said you applied patches, so I assumed you were not testing master |
| 22:32 | mtompset | OH... sorry, misunserstood. |
| 22:32 | Let me check. | |
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| 22:33 | mtompset | Same problem on master with a regular log in. |
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| 22:35 | mtompset | So, if anyone has OverDrive set to work, if you could make note of your settings, set it to blank and turn off overdrive, and allow logins to your OPAC, I'm pretty sure you will see the problem on master. |
| 22:35 | phemmy | hello anyone here to help on some technical docmentation pls |
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| 22:35 | mtompset | phemmy: Perhaps. :) I never promise answers, though I try. :) |
| 22:35 | oleonard | I don't get an error when logging in but I get when when searching in the opac. "Internal server error" |
| 22:35 | mtompset | Do you have circulation? |
| 22:36 | I am using a practically empty DB, oleonard. | |
| 22:37 | Fresh install, all sample data, one book imported via z39.50, reindexed, Koha Admin set to superlibrarian and username, password, and primary email address set. | |
| 22:38 | phemmy: That was a kind of yes. What's the technical documentation help you need? | |
| 22:38 | phemmy | installation on my localserver |
| 22:39 | oleonard | Interesting... I get an error when searching in the staff client too |
| 22:40 | mtompset | phemmy: what do you mean installation on my local server? How to install Koha on a server? |
| 22:41 | phemmy | on my system without internet that is on intranet |
| 22:42 | mtompset | And what operating system is this server going to be running? |
| 22:43 | Is there anything else running on this server? | |
| 22:44 | phemmy | linux probably |
| 22:44 | talljoy | cait do you know what the syspref 504MARC is in 16.11? |
| 22:45 | what does that relate to? | |
| 22:45 | cait | 504marcß |
| 22:45 | ? | |
| 22:45 | is it really called 504marc? let me check | |
| 22:46 | talljoy | is it a german thing? |
| 22:46 | cait | i am not seeing it in my installation |
| 22:46 | sorry,maybe i am misunderstanding you | |
| 22:46 | talljoy | weird, it's in ours. |
| 22:46 | cait | which tab? |
| 22:46 | talljoy | sorry not a syspref |
| 22:46 | it's a authorisedvalue category | |
| 22:46 | cait | ah |
| 22:46 | i don | |
| 22:46 | * talljoy | is tired = long day |
| 22:46 | cait | t think that is standard |
| 22:46 | maybe they just added it? | |
| 22:47 | mtompset | phemmy: Then perhaps https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian is what you are looking for. |
| 22:47 | cait | not standard |
| 22:47 | sorry, my hand is half asleep :) | |
| 22:47 | talljoy | well if it's not standard, then i'm not going to add it to my migration databases. |
| 22:47 | if it breaks we'll find out what it's for! ha | |
| 22:48 | cait | heh |
| 22:48 | 504 is a note field | |
| 22:48 | not sure what you coudl authvalue there | |
| 22:48 | talljoy | jz just found it |
| 22:48 | bibliography note: "includes index" etc | |
| 22:49 | i guess it's just a common note for some catalogers that can be linked to the 504 tag and frameworks. | |
| 22:49 | cait | yeah - but as you can't mix authvalue and free text entry... not sure how useful |
| 22:49 | talljoy | ikr |
| 22:49 | cait | do you see where it came from? |
| 22:49 | talljoy | jz found it in her database. |
| 22:49 | and she got a random one from larry. | |
| 22:49 | so it's a mystery. | |
| 22:49 | and a non-sequitur | |
| 22:50 | cait | hm git grepped master, it's not turning up there |
| 22:51 | why did you ask if it was german? :) | |
| 22:51 | talljoy | we think it was just an old copy of a demo database highlighting the frameworks and ability to tie in to authorised values |
| 22:51 | oh, probably a typo, but you typed marc504ß | |
| 22:51 | random reference. | |
| 22:51 | cait | ah |
| 22:51 | talljoy | are you going to hackfest cait? |
| 22:52 | cait | just because ? and ß are the same key on my keyboard |
| 22:52 | talljoy | HA! |
| 22:52 | cait | not this year I am afraid |
| 22:52 | talljoy | another mystery solved! |
| 22:52 | cait | :) |
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| 22:53 | talljoy | bummer. |
| 22:55 | bag | yeah BIG bummer |
| 22:55 | or BUMMER (that’s big) | |
| 22:55 | cait | talljoy: go to the crepes place |
| 22:56 | bag | it is a requirement cait |
| 22:56 | cait | think of me and order one with salted butter caramel :) |
| 22:56 | bag | I’ll be there :) |
| 22:56 | talljoy | crepes |
| 22:56 | mmmmmm | |
| 22:57 | bag | these are good ones talljoy |
| 22:58 | oleonard | talljoy: Raise a glass or 4 to your absent comrades. |
| 22:59 | * talljoy | plans to pack the aspirin |
| 22:59 | dani | I barely remember the crepes, I think I was going on 24 hours without sleep at that point in Oct |
| 22:59 | talljoy | don't go until i get there bag |
| 22:59 | oleonard | I *know* I was on 24 hours without sleep. |
| 23:00 | bag | talljoy: we’ll go monday night :) |
| 23:01 | yeah dani we did a ton in the first 36 hours | |
| 23:01 | dani | Yeah, I was so proud to have made it to Monday without crashing |
| 23:01 | ha | |
| 23:01 | bag | train tickets I need to buy train tickets |
| 23:01 | ok back in a sec | |
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| 23:02 | talljoy | oooo this is new for 16.11 yes? Sereal/Encoder.pm |
| 23:03 | dani you familiar with that? | |
| 23:03 | i can't run updatedatabase.pl without it | |
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| 23:03 | dani | i am not |
| 23:04 | bag | talljoy: do you fly home from marseille |
| 23:04 | talljoy | mrs to lhs to dfw |
| 23:04 | with 24 hours in lhr | |
| 23:04 | s/lhs/lhr/ | |
| 23:04 | cait | @wunder lhr |
| 23:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 11.0°C (10:50 PM GMT on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:04 | talljoy | flying out of paris was economically impossible |
| 23:04 | cait | aha! |
| 23:05 | bag | ok thanks that’s all I needed to know :) |
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| 23:18 | mtompset | talljoy: Yes, that library is new, as far as I know. |
| 23:21 | talljoy | yup getting installed now! |
| 23:25 | mtompset | @wunder yyz |
| 23:25 | huginn | mtompset: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is 5.0°C (6:00 PM EST on February 22, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
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