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| 01:02 | BobB | hi folks |
| 01:02 | bug 7317 is about ILL | |
| 01:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, NEW , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC |
| 01:03 | BobB | but hasn't been updated since march 2015 |
| 01:03 | does anyone know if there is work gonig on? | |
| 01:06 | cait | hm definietely was after 2015 |
| 01:06 | I think magnuse was testing it | |
| 01:07 | BobB | hi cait |
| 01:07 | cait | did you see the URL in the bug? https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_Module |
| 01:09 | hm | |
| 01:10 | probably best to wait fo ran answer on the bug | |
| 01:10 | g | |
| 01:10 | BobB | yep, and I'll check with magnuse when he comes into the channel |
| 01:11 | it must be the middle of the night where you are cait? :) | |
| 01:11 | cait | yep - def should be sleeping :) |
| 01:11 | BobB | ok, leave you to it :) |
| 01:11 | cait | have a nice day :) |
| 01:11 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 01:11 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.6°C (2:07 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Unknown. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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| 01:35 | martinmorris | Hey, I’ve got a question about installing koha on ubuntu where the www and mysql are on different servers, the documentation isn’t entirely clear |
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| 06:46 | * magnuse | waves to BobB and #koha |
| 06:46 | BobB | hi magnuse |
| 06:46 | * BobB | waves from down under |
| 06:47 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:47 | ptfse have been working on the ill module | |
| 06:47 | BobB | yay! |
| 06:47 | magnuse | atheia or ashimema should be able to give you the details |
| 06:47 | but i think they are getting close to submitting it | |
| 06:48 | BobB | very cool |
| 06:48 | magnuse | the goal has been to create a generic ill module that can be configured to support different workflows |
| 06:49 | atheia demoed it in marseille, and it looked pretty neat | |
| 06:49 | BobB | we have a prospective client who's interested |
| 06:50 | I'd reckon its a big piece of work | |
| 06:50 | I guess ptfs havae a client they are doing it for? | |
| 06:51 | it almost fills in the last big gap in koha as far as traditional LMSs go | |
| 06:52 | very cool | |
| 06:52 | ashimema +1 | |
| 06:53 | magnuse how is Oslo PL going? they went live I think? | |
| 06:55 | magnuse | yeah, i'd also say ill is the last big missing piece |
| 06:55 | i think they have customers using it already | |
| 06:55 | yeah, OPL went live while we were in marseille last time | |
| 06:56 | i think they are doing ok, i have not heard a whole lot from them | |
| 06:56 | BobB | no noise is good noise :) |
| 06:56 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:57 | BobB: you can see their stuff here: https://sok.deichman.no/search?query=hamsun | |
| 06:57 | everything the borrowers see they made themselves | |
| 06:58 | koha is only used internally | |
| 06:59 | BobB | yep |
| 06:59 | I can't read much of that :) | |
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| 07:06 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 07:32 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:41 | fridolin | hie |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:45 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
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| 07:58 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:14 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 08:55 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:56 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 08:57 | cait | hi marcelr |
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| 09:33 | * magnuse | waves |
| 09:33 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
| 09:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:34 | magnuse | forecast says we will have +10 on wednesday or thursday |
| 09:52 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 09:52 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 0.0°C (10:25 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:52 | eythian | also, hi |
| 09:54 | magnuse | hiya eythian |
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| 10:04 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 10:04 | just beat me to answer on the bug | |
| 10:04 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 10:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -2.8°C (10:59 AM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:04 | cait | colder than norway *grump* |
| 10:07 | marcelr++ - very brave takingon all those authority bugs :) | |
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| 10:38 | marcelr | cait: just halfway |
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| 11:19 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:19 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
| 11:43 | Joubu | khall: around? |
| 11:43 | khall | what's up? |
| 11:43 | Joubu | hi! |
| 11:43 | khall | mornin! |
| 11:43 | Joubu | I have a wording question :) |
| 11:44 | khall | sure! |
| 11:44 | Joubu | I am create a Koha::Object[s] based class for the message_queue table |
| 11:44 | but | |
| 11:44 | Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessageQueues do not make sense | |
| 11:44 | as we do not have several queues | |
| 11:44 | so I have Koha::MessageQueue and Koha::MessagesQueue | |
| 11:44 | * cait | waves |
| 11:44 | Joubu | or Koha::QueuedMessage and Koha::QueuedMessages |
| 11:44 | in mind | |
| 11:45 | but I do not manage to decide, and maybe you will have a third suggestion :) | |
| 11:45 | marcelr | Joubu: Koha::MessagesQueue is confusing |
| 11:45 | cait | Koha:MessageQueueEntries? |
| 11:45 | kidclamp_away | I like QueuedMessage(s) |
| 11:45 | Joubu | kidclamp_away: yep, me too |
| 11:45 | cait | or that yep |
| 11:45 | khall | yeah, I'm of that mind |
| 11:45 | al, Koha::Queue:Messages and Koha::Queue::Message perhaps? | |
| 11:46 | nah, that makes no sense | |
| 11:46 | how about just Koha::Messages and Koha::Message | |
| 11:46 | marcelr | QueuedMessage(s)++ |
| 11:46 | cait | if i ask now why it is message and not notice i will be in trouble right? :) |
| 11:46 | marcelr | sure |
| 11:46 | * cait | doesn't ask |
| 11:47 | cait | just wondering, because there is also a messages table |
| 11:47 | khall | cait: good point, if we always call them notices in the interface, we should move to notices in the code ; ) |
| 11:47 | cait | an they are not related, it's the notes from patron account that go in there |
| 11:47 | khall | but if they aren't all notices, we should just say a notices is a type of message |
| 11:47 | Joubu | Koha::Message sounds too generic |
| 11:47 | cait | yeah, maybe fix when we get there |
| 11:47 | Koha::Patron::Message? | |
| 11:48 | Joubu | I have 20 patches on top of it, but should be easy to rename |
| 11:48 | cait | notes would make more sense probably, as it's more of apassive thing that just displays |
| 11:48 | Joubu | so yes, if you want me to rename it, it's better now than later: ) |
| 11:48 | cait | you already did the messsages one too? |
| 11:48 | sorry if i confused things by bringing that one up | |
| 11:48 | Joubu | Koha::Patron::Message already exists, yet |
| 11:49 | khall | cait: yeah I like Koha::Patron::Message(s) |
| 11:49 | cait | ah ok |
| 11:49 | khall | dang ; ) |
| 11:49 | cait | sorry! |
| 11:50 | Joubu | So is QueuedNotice[s] the conclusion? |
| 11:51 | marcelr | sounds not bad |
| 11:51 | khall | Joubu: that sounds good, I don't even think you need the Queued part, could just be Koha::Patron::Notice(s) |
| 11:51 | cait | hm |
| 11:51 | marcelr | i would leave queue |
| 11:51 | cait | i wouldn't put it in patron |
| 11:51 | because things in there that don't go to the patrons | |
| 11:51 | marcelr | cait: |
| 11:51 | khall | ok, then I say QueuedNotice(s) sounds good |
| 11:52 | cait | claims, list invites, the overdus email to the library etc |
| 11:52 | marcelr | wrong window |
| 11:52 | khall | or just Koha::Notice(s) |
| 11:52 | cait | how would we name the one for editing/managing notices then? |
| 11:52 | ah at the moment that's letters i think | |
| 11:52 | oh all the confusion in terminology | |
| 11:53 | khall | cait: yep, it's complicated ; ) |
| 11:53 | Joubu | but we will have Koha::Letter and Koha::Notice |
| 11:53 | khall | I would call those notice templates |
| 11:53 | marcelr | notice template ++ |
| 11:53 | Joubu | (what cait was saying..) |
| 11:53 | cait | it should not be so hard to get this sorted... but it is |
| 11:53 | Joubu | yes to me Koha::Letter is a template |
| 11:54 | bug 17958 | |
| 11:54 | cait | would letter in english also refer to email? |
| 11:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Letter[s] packages |
| 11:54 | Joubu | bug 17959 |
| 11:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::MessageQueue[s] packages |
| 11:54 | cait | or text message? makes me more think of mail |
| 11:54 | Joubu | Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message ? |
| 11:55 | or just Koha::Template and Koha::Notice | |
| 11:55 | cait | hm thinking |
| 11:55 | we also have gui templates and marc modification templates | |
| 11:56 | might be confusing | |
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| 11:56 | Joubu | yes and the interface uses "notices" for both "letters" and "messages" |
| 11:57 | that why I suggested to group them into the same namespace with Koha::Notice::Template and Koha::Notice::Message | |
| 11:57 | cait | sorry, what would message be then? |
| 11:57 | Joubu | an entry of message_queue |
| 11:59 | cait | i kind of get confused by message |
| 11:59 | kidclamp_away: khall - native speakers? | |
| 12:00 | bbiab | |
| 12:00 | khall | cait: notice letter and message are all basically synonyms with slightly different connotations |
| 12:00 | cait | i like notice::template or similar tho |
| 12:01 | kidclamp_away | hmm...Koha::Notice::Message makes sense to me, and Koha::Notice::Template |
| 12:01 | khall | Joubu: I think you are on the right track with Koha::Notice::Template/Message |
| 12:01 | kidclamp_away | Joubu++ |
| 12:01 | now I am really away for a bit | |
| 12:02 | Joubu | ok thanks, I will go first with that |
| 12:02 | and we will rename things later if needed | |
| 12:04 | bug 17958 | |
| 12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add the Koha::Notice::Template[s] packages (letter table) |
| 12:04 | Joubu | bug 17959 |
| 12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , Add the Koha::Notice::Message[s] packages (message_queue table) |
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| 12:47 | LibraryClaire | hi #koha |
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| 12:56 | cait | Joubu++ |
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| 13:07 | tcohen1 | hi cait |
| 13:07 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
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| 13:08 | tcohen | cait++ # new point release! |
| 13:09 | druthb | cait++ # wait, we need *reasons* now? |
| 13:09 | cait | yes, you do |
| 13:10 | druthb | cait++ # for imposing "reason" on the Karma system. |
| 13:10 | tcohen | druthb: she's a busy girl now, and she found the time to be rmaint! |
| 13:10 | druthb | Indeed, tcohen; she's been a busy girl as long as I've known her. :) |
| 13:11 | tcohen | exactly |
| 13:11 | :-D | |
| 13:12 | </south_park_quote> | |
| 13:12 | * cait | runs off |
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| 13:16 | magnuse | cait++ for all the reasons |
| 13:16 | @wunder enbo | |
| 13:16 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:21 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 13:21 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 10.3°C (8:21 AM EST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.40 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:22 | oleonard | Yay, warmer than Norway for once. |
| 13:22 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
| 13:22 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Montrose, Houston, Texas is 10.6°C (7:16 AM CST on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:22 | druthb | Chilly morning, here. |
| 13:22 | #LifeInTheTropics | |
| 13:29 | LibraryClaire | hi oleonard |
| 13:29 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 13:29 | LibraryClaire | @wunder konstanz |
| 13:29 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is -1.4°C (2:22 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:30 | oleonard | Hi LibraryClaire and everyone |
| 13:30 | LibraryClaire | I think huginn underestimates. I think it's colder than that! |
| 13:31 | oleonard | huginn please recalibrate your sensors. |
| 13:31 | huginn | oleonard: downloading the Perl source |
| 13:31 | LibraryClaire | :D |
| 13:31 | oleonard | huginn how many fingers am I holding up? |
| 13:31 | huginn | oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:31 | LibraryClaire | huginn is sassy |
| 13:31 | huginn | LibraryClaire: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 13:32 | oleonard | huginn you need to compile more quotes |
| 13:32 | huginn | oleonard: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:32 | magnuse | oleonard, druthb: forecast says we will have +9C on thursday :-) |
| 13:32 | @quote random | |
| 13:32 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #287: "Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch" (added by wizzyrea at 11:48 PM, January 09, 2014) |
| 13:33 | druthb | brrrrrrr |
| 13:34 | oleonard | It's forecast to be 17C here on Wednesday, then a high of 7 the next day. |
| 13:35 | LibraryClaire | oh to run in the warm... |
| 13:38 | magnuse | at least the Lofoten islands just had some nice sun on them |
| 13:43 | oleonard | FTFY xkcd: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#0/14851790081399 |
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| 13:56 | edveal | Hello #koha |
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| 13:59 | LibraryClaire | hi edveal |
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| 14:51 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 14:56 | cait | good morning rsantellan |
| 14:57 | hi edveal | |
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| 15:04 | oleonard | cait: On Bug 5784 you suggest dividing the side navigation into Administration and Acquisitions sections. Can you explain what you mean? |
| 15:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5784 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , link to acq from budgets & funds |
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| 15:05 | oleonard | cait: Do you mean changing acquisitions-menu.inc? |
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| 15:19 | magnuse | hm bug 17940 |
| 15:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17940 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred |
| 15:21 | cait | oleonard: yep |
| 15:21 | not sure what is best, but i think breadcrumbs won't work | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | I agree |
| 15:22 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 15:22 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 2.8°C (4:20 PM CET on January 23, 2017). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling). |
| 15:22 | cait | maybe it would be nice to have a design similar to tools? |
| 15:22 | hm not sure about that either :) | |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Actually I think that might work |
| 15:25 | * oleonard | will think about it |
| 15:40 | oleonard | cait: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/14851860069021 |
| 15:41 | LibraryClaire | oleonard++ |
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| 15:50 | cait | oleonard: nice! |
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| 16:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | oleonard | Only 28 more bugs to 18000 |
| 16:31 | cait | scary |
| 16:32 | i still remember times when bugs had 4 digits... | |
| 16:33 | oleonard | I still don't understand the 2nd and 3rd parts of this comment. https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=17942#c2 |
| 16:33 | huginn | 04Bug 17942: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Update style of the web installer with Bootstrap 3 |
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| 23:33 | CrispyBran | Anyone available to confirm a bug for me? |
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| 23:38 | tmcmahon | I'm here CrispyBran, but I'm not sure what kind of help I'd be. What's the bug? |
| 23:40 | CrispyBran | I'm using a ByWater sandbox with the tiny dataset and on MASTER. I can't seem to limit the number of holds on an item type in the circ rules. |
| 23:40 | I can limit them with the maxreserves setting, but it does want to work in the rules. | |
| 23:41 | doesn't work in the rules. | |
| 23:41 | :) | |
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| 23:47 | CrispyBran | It appears that it will block if I set the limit to 0, but if I set it to 1, it lets me place more than one hold. |
| 23:47 | tmcmahon | I went over my hold level without any warnings too. |
| 23:48 | CrispyBran | Hmmm...seems something is broken. |
| 23:48 | I appreciate you trying. Thanks for confirming. | |
| 23:48 | tmcmahon | Have you searched the bugs yet? |
| 23:49 | CrispyBran | I did an initial seach, but didn't see anything. |
| 23:50 | tmcmahon | Bugzilla says I have an open bug assigned to me. Does anyone know if that means I have to be the one to close it? It's already been pushed to master. |
| 23:51 | rangi | has it been pushed to a stable release? |
| 23:51 | if not, you can mark it resolved fixed | |
| 23:51 | tmcmahon | My first patch. Don't know the proper procedures. |
| 23:51 | rangi | normally the release managers/maintainers do it, but i's fine to do it yourself |
| 23:52 | if it has been released (ie pushed to master before november 22, or to a stable branch that has been released) you can mark it closed | |
| 23:52 | does that make sense? | |
| 23:53 | tmcmahon | Yes. I just didn't want to mess with things if it was meant for someone higher up on the dev chain. |
| 23:54 | rangi | nope all good |
| 23:54 | tmcmahon | It's in 16.11.02 |
| 23:56 | Status says "Pushed to Stable" | |
| 23:57 | CrispyBran | tmcmahon, I filed the bug at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17978. Feel free to make note that you have confirmed this issue. |
| 23:57 | huginn | 04Bug 17978: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Circ rules will not limit holds |
| 23:57 | rangi | that can be closed then if you like |
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