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07:06 | mig | hi friends at koha |
07:07 | need help in migrating to koha from excel | |
07:08 | i am using marcedit | |
07:09 | when i gave a field mapping for accession number with field 0 as 541##$e | |
07:09 | marcedit tells to gve subfields in 245 $a | |
07:10 | what does it mean to do... | |
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07:13 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:14 | mig | hi all |
07:14 | any help | |
07:14 | wahanui | i think any help is appreciated ;) |
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07:39 | reiveune | hello |
07:39 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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07:46 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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08:01 | mig | how good is using openrefine to convert data |
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08:23 | schnydszch | hi Koha community! do we have a meeting today? |
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08:42 | marcelr | hi schnydszch : i think you missed it |
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08:43 | schnydszch | I think so, i did not realized that 4:00 is 4:00 AM in our time |
08:43 | I only realized that now. Sorry | |
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08:44 | cait | happy new year rocio :) |
08:44 | rocio | happy new year to you! thank you cait :-) |
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08:48 | * bahaa | slaps bahaa around a bit with a large fishbot |
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08:54 | mig | hi all |
08:54 | anybody there to help | |
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08:54 | bahaa | hi |
08:54 | wahanui | bidet, bahaa |
08:55 | bahaa | Wayne appreciate benefited from this Chat |
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09:14 | bahaa | السلام عليكم |
09:14 | اكو واحد عربي | |
09:14 | mig | is there a free/opensource alternative to marcedit |
09:16 | wa alaikum assalaam bahaa | |
09:16 | cait | mig: sorry, not aware of one, but i think there might be other programs you can edit marc with |
09:16 | probably not with the same feature set | |
09:16 | in Linux I have used this occasionally: https://galencharlton.com/blog[…]-marc-editor-vim/ | |
09:21 | mig | cait , i am using marcedit, when i gave a field mapping for accession number with field 0 as 541##$e marcedit gives a maping error |
09:22 | i have a spreadsheet converted to tab-limited text file with necessary fields in different columns | |
09:22 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
09:22 | huginn` | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is -18.0°C (10:50 AM EET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -28.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
09:28 | cait | for help with marcedit, better ask on its own mailng list |
09:29 | people here will probably not be able to help with such specific questions | |
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09:29 | cait | but take a look at the koha manual for how to create items - I think 541 might not be correct |
09:29 | depending on what you try to do - is that your barcode/number for checkout? | |
09:35 | magnuse | @wunder enbo |
09:35 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -9.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). |
09:35 | magnuse | liw wins |
09:36 | liw | it's not a competition but if it were "winning" wouldn't be what I'm doing |
09:37 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
09:37 | huginn` | ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is -1.0°C (9:37 AM GMT on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
09:38 | * cait | waves at ashimema |
09:38 | ashimema | hi ciat |
09:38 | cait | happy new year :) |
09:39 | magnuse | liw: :-) |
09:39 | ashimema | happy new year #koha |
09:39 | magnuse | happy new year ashimema |
09:39 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
09:39 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 0.7°C (10:32 AM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
09:39 | cait | and happy new year, liw too :) |
09:40 | it's snowing here, rather prettily | |
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10:38 | drojf | hi #koha |
10:41 | in 16.05.05, when i add a MANUAL_INV type of fine, i get a checkout block, even though i set ManInvInNoissuesCharge to "don't include". is that a bug or am i doing something wrong | |
10:47 | ah it might be maxoutstanding | |
10:48 | hm no | |
10:58 | does not work for me in master either | |
10:59 | kivilahtio | Is there a reason why <elasticsearch> -config is not in the etc/koha-conf.xml? |
11:00 | can I add it there with a Bugzilla bug? | |
11:08 | magnuse | @wunder kautokeino |
11:08 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -33.0°C (10:00 AM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -35.0°C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
11:08 | magnuse | they had -42 last night |
11:09 | marcelr | brrr |
11:09 | kivilahtio | Where can I find the newest HEAD of elasticsearch development? |
11:10 | catalyst's git repo's elastic-branch was 1 months old | |
11:10 | catalyst's git repo's elastic-branch was 11 months old | |
11:10 | I need a new keyboard.. | |
11:10 | marcelr | maybe nothing happened after that. kivilahtio |
11:11 | kivilahtio | marcelr: could be. So you think most of the bugs are pushed to master and then extra development happens via Bugzilla? |
11:11 | marcelr: just asking so I know where to contribute | |
11:11 | marcelr | i think so, but you could ask chris or a catalyst guy to be sure |
11:12 | kivilahtio | marcelr: ok. Thanks |
11:13 | marcelr: looks like the install instructions in KohaDevBox are the correct ones and produce the newest version of ElasticSearch | |
11:13 | + assortment of Bugzilla bugs | |
11:13 | marcelr | k |
11:14 | eythian | @wunder jordaan, ams |
11:14 | huginn` | eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.8°C (12:11 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). |
11:22 | cait | oh tropical |
11:22 | drojf | bug 17850 |
11:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17850 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ManInvInNoissuesCharge does not seem to work |
11:22 | drojf | i'd be happy to be proven wrong |
11:23 | bonus bug, the german translation speaks of overdues in the "blocked" message | |
11:24 | eythian | cait: it's so tropical that the windchill actually makes it warmer! |
11:24 | cait | i think kidclamp was workingon it |
11:24 | kivilahtio: they said something about update to 2.4 in the meeting yesterday | |
11:24 | kivilahtio: maybe talk to kidclamp when he is around | |
11:25 | kivilahtio | cait: thanks. Bug 17255 seems to be about the upgrade |
11:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17255 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 2.4+ |
11:25 | kidclamp | I put the update of what I did top get things working on the bug |
11:25 | cait | and there he is :) |
11:26 | kidclamp | kivilahtio - I haven't played with facets yet, but will soon - the catalyst code will need rebasing onto master at some point too |
11:26 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: do you know wo is working et Elasticsearch atm? |
11:26 | kidclamp: like who is paid to do so? | |
11:27 | kidclamp | I believe Catalyst - rangi and srdjan |
11:27 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: so how is the catalyst-code different from what we have in master? |
11:28 | kidclamp: I recall there was two version. One which changed pretty much nothing, just runs elasticsearch together with Zebra | |
11:28 | kidclamp: and one which replaces most of the old serach bits with elasticsearch? | |
11:28 | kidclamp: and one which replaces most of the old search bits with elasticsearch? | |
11:28 | kidclamp | I am only aware of the first - elastic running beside zebra |
11:29 | I think we need to get es running well next to sebra so we can compare for a while and tweak mapppings/relevance | |
11:29 | changes for 2.4 aren't too big, you can see here: http://git.catalyst.co.nz/gw?p[…]b0c4d186950174118 | |
11:29 | http://git.catalyst.co.nz/gw?p[…]2388cd926a7f96a11 | |
11:29 | second one, sorry | |
11:30 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: what we want is facets from Elasticsearch directly |
11:30 | kidclamp | then there are other things to investigate once 2.x is working - like joubus patron search |
11:31 | kivilahtio | I guess everybody wants ElasticSearch facets |
11:31 | kidclamp | yes, just is a change to search reqeuest - we have to request 'aggregations' on the indexes we are faceting |
11:31 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: ok. |
11:31 | kidclamp | in theory it is simple - but haven't actually tried it yet |
11:31 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: I read Mastering Elasticsearch a long time ago and getting facets wasn'tthat involved |
11:32 | cait | i think the plan was to get 2.4 first and then build on top of that? |
11:32 | afaik there is no 'replacing version' - you might be thinking about how SOLR was done at first | |
11:32 | kidclamp | yeah, we had facets working, 2.x switches to aggregations and that is what we need to do |
11:32 | kivilahtio | but cant remember much about the specfics any more |
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11:32 | kivilahtio | hi tcohen |
11:32 | cait | we also need Zebra atm to provide Z39.50 and SRU |
11:32 | kivilahtio | I am trying to catch up on Elasticsearch happenings and where the latest development head is going |
11:33 | cait: I am hoping it wouldn't be too difficult introducing SRU to Elasticsearch | |
11:33 | there has to be a ready implementation somewhere already | |
11:33 | cait | can't tell, but sure is good not to try it all at once |
11:33 | but get things right this time step by step | |
11:33 | otherwise I think we'd just end up with another Search.pm | |
11:35 | kidclamp | kivilahtio - pianohacker intended bug 13937 as a start to providing z39 via elastic |
11:35 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Add a Z39.50 daemon that can inject item status MARC subfields |
11:35 | kivilahtio | kidclamp: why do we need to inject item statuses to z39.50? |
11:35 | kidclamp | it needs tests |
11:35 | cait | kivilahtio: I think because some external systems doesn't like that koha has not one but multiple fields to check for determining status |
11:36 | lost, damaged, on loan, restricted, etc. | |
11:36 | kidclamp | what cait said :-) |
11:36 | cait | they want 'one field of truth' |
11:36 | kidclamp | they want one field |
11:36 | kivilahtio | ok |
11:36 | cait | so the bug description is a bit misleading for starting an SRU :) |
11:36 | kivilahtio | that is a bit ambivalent considering the arcance permutations of availability in Koha |
11:37 | kidclamp | heh, the underlying concept is catching the z39 request and routing it/altering it as we want to |
11:37 | does one thing - opens the door for others | |
11:38 | eythian | I remember writing the facets code for ES and then reading a few days later that it was deprecated. It was so annoying. |
11:39 | * cait | sends ginger bread cookies |
11:39 | kivilahtio | eythian: all we can do is our best :) |
11:40 | eythian: I am sure what you wrote is a good foundation to rebase | |
11:41 | eythian | I hope so, for all your sakes :) that said, I doubt that updating the code that's there would be particularly hard, it doesn't really doing anything too complicated (from memory: it's been about a year since I've looked at it.) |
11:41 | kivilahtio | ok |
11:41 | Ill go back into turning Elasticsearch on on our new Ubuntu16.04 LXC-containers :) | |
11:42 | eythian | "doesn't really doing" ... I shouldn't be back from holiday ... |
11:42 | kivilahtio | I'll see what I come up, already wriiting installer for makefile and found a bug in Makefile.PL :) |
11:42 | eythian: I need a holiday | |
11:43 | eythian | I recommend them |
11:43 | kivilahtio | eythian: luckily fridays is a public holiday and wife left me home for the weekend and too the kid with her |
11:43 | I wonder what to play | |
11:43 | maybe 7D2D :) | |
11:43 | it is super cool | |
11:44 | eythian | I am in the worst country in Europe for public holidays :( |
11:45 | kivilahtio | I have to wonder why in a state with free religion I am forced to have a vacation due to some religious event |
11:45 | Not all religions share the same dates | |
11:46 | eythian | there's exactly that conversation happening where I work at the moment: should it be OK to work easter and take the holiday off when you want in the next 6 months. |
11:46 | * eythian | lunches |
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11:48 | cait | public holidays have the advantage of everything being closed |
11:48 | if you can move them as you want... someone probably has to keep shops open etc | |
11:48 | oleonard | Hi all |
11:48 | cait | I'd prefer to keep the all is closed holiday and just ignore why it is one :) |
11:48 | kivilahtio | hi oleonard |
11:48 | wahanui | hi olé onard |
11:48 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
11:48 | kivilahtio | cait: that is a good point |
11:52 | cait | hm more snow |
11:53 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
11:53 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is -6.2°C (6:52 AM EST on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 9 am this morning to 3 am EST Friday... |
11:53 | drojf | @wunder sxf |
11:53 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -2.0°C (12:20 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
11:53 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
11:53 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.5°C (12:42 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
12:26 | oleonard | I added a minor followup to Bug 16239 which needs signoff if anyone is willing to look. |
12:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Upgrade Bootstrap in the staff client |
12:27 | oleonard | I think we should push those patches as soon as possible to give lots of time for bugs to shake out |
12:27 | cait | +1 |
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12:51 | cait | Joubu++ for noting where a bug originated from often - much easier to see what's needed and what not |
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13:37 | oleonard | Okay... weird question if anyone is awake. I'm working on a Mac today, accidentally hit CMD+F4 while in a Virtualbox Debian guest. This killed the GUI and took me to a debian login prompt. Did I lose my work, or can I get back to the GUI and continue somehow? |
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13:43 | oleonard | Never mind I think I got it |
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14:10 | Joubu | @later tell rangi the certificate for bugs needs to be renewed |
14:10 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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14:18 | cait | Joubu: just left him a Twitter DM too |
14:18 | :) | |
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14:20 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
14:20 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #239: "slef: man cannot live by beer alone. But it's fun to try!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:54 AM, April 03, 2013) |
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14:41 | oleonard | "man cannot live by beer alone" [citation needed] |
14:42 | drojf | heh |
14:43 | * drojf | got snow |
14:43 | drojf | a lot of it |
14:43 | wahanui | i guess a lot of it is just making sure we get our books back |
14:43 | drojf | @wunder sxf |
14:43 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -3.0°C (3:20 PM CET on January 05, 2017). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising). |
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14:54 | oleonard | Is there a good way to verify that ansible installed correctly on a Mac? I got some warnings about directory ownership when I installed. |
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15:07 | eythian | oleonard: does it work? that seems like a good way to test :) |
15:08 | kivilahtio | oleonard: I recommend installing the pip packages under user root |
15:08 | not as sudo pip install | |
15:08 | but sudo su | |
15:08 | pip install | |
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15:17 | tcohen | hi |
15:17 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
15:18 | tcohen | marcelr: around? |
15:18 | marcelr | hi tcohen |
15:18 | tcohen | quick question |
15:19 | marcelr | yes |
15:19 | tcohen | how is the Koha::Upload-ed files |
15:19 | cleanup done | |
15:19 | marcelr | superb |
15:19 | :) | |
15:20 | patches are simple to read | |
15:20 | tcohen | my question is about temporary files |
15:20 | the patches seem simpĺe, i'm testing them | |
15:20 | marcelr | i have few extra bugs about temp uploads, you saw them? |
15:20 | tcohen | nope |
15:21 | marcelr | let me see |
15:21 | bug 17669 | |
15:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17669 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Add purging temporary uploads to cleanup_database |
15:21 | marcelr | bug 17777 |
15:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17777 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , koha-remove should deal with temporary uploads |
15:22 | marcelr | those two |
15:22 | tcohen | ok |
15:23 | marcelr | the cleanup is pref based (number of days before purging) |
15:24 | appreciate your testing; just ask if you see something strange | |
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16:04 | oleonard | Thanks kivilahtio, I took eythian's suggestion first so I didn't get to try yours |
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16:55 | bag | morning |
17:00 | oleonard | Hi bag |
17:01 | bag | hiya oleonard |
17:07 | reiveune | bye |
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17:21 | tcohen | morning |
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19:29 | rangi | morning |
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19:43 | tcohen | hi rangi |
19:44 | oleonard | tcohen I have a kohadevbox question if you have a moment |
19:44 | tcohen | only half a moment, but shoot |
19:45 | oleonard | I'm setting it up on my mac for the first time and I'm finding that it doesn't seem to be making changes the hosts file. Shouldn't it? |
19:45 | tcohen | it only changes /etc/exports if I recall |
19:46 | if you want name-based access you need to do it yourself | |
19:46 | sudo vim /etc/hosts | |
19:47 | oleonard | Okay thanks |
19:47 | tcohen | i have 127.0.0.1 kohadev on my hosts file |
19:47 | and kohadev-intra | |
19:47 | * tcohen | is checking |
19:48 | tcohen | and tweaked vars/user.yml |
19:48 | have to run | |
19:48 | bye! | |
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22:28 | rangi | @later tell joubu http://git.koha-community.org/[…]hea.git;a=summary |
22:28 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
22:35 | rangi | @later tell joubu https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]%20Infrastructure |
22:35 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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