IRC log for #koha, 2017-01-03

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05:13 nice happy new year all
05:18 in which marc21 tag  is it better to put volume information
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05:32 mtompset Happy New Year, nice.
05:33 nice thank you mtompset
05:33 mtompset https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]data_fields_(9xx)
05:33 That's my guess, nice.
05:33 Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha nice.
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05:44 nice i used 830#0$v
05:44 is it correct
05:44 for volume info
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06:07 nice what is an added entry
06:07 and main entry difference
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07:07 * magnuse waves
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07:36 reiveune hello
07:36 wahanui que tal, reiveune
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07:51 alex_a bonjour
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08:11 magnuse @wunder enbo
08:11 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
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08:23 fridolin hie there
08:24 kivilahtio fridolin: hi frido!
08:24 fridolin kivilahtio: hie, happy new year 8-)
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08:38 kivilahtio happy new year!
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08:40 gaetan_B hello
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09:02 cait good morning #koha
09:02 and a happy new year :)
09:13 kivilahtio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_B1AB9nu8
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11:05 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14610 [QA Followup] - Minify opac.css <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]23177c76062be84cc>
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12:17 tcohen morning!
12:17 cait good morning and happy new year tcohen :)
12:17 tcohen hi cait!
12:17 * druthb waves
12:18 cait happy new year druthb!
12:18 tcohen hi druthb !
12:18 druthb happy new year to y'all, too
12:32 magnuse druthb! cait! tcohen!
12:33 druthb magnuse!
12:33 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
12:42 Joubu khall, tcohen, ashimema: Take a look at bug 17835. I have used some interesting DBIx::Class stuffs in these patches
12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17835 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move C4::Koha::GetItemTypes to Koha::ItemTypes
12:43 Joubu like views, and additional conditions on join
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12:43 tcohen Joubu: will take a look, great!
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12:49 sophie_m Happy new year #koha !
12:53 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #81: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/81/
12:53 kyle: Bug 14610 [QA Followup] - Minify opac.css
12:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14610 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to place article requests in Koha
12:58 magnuse gah - libraries that change names so their instance names no longer match their real names...
13:01 tcohen unstable? wtf?
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13:09 oleonard Hi #koha
13:10 tcohen hi oleonard !
13:10 happy new year!
13:11 oleonard Thanks, Happy new year to you and everyone else too
13:11 So. Work.
13:12 cait happy new year!
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13:29 magnuse happy new year cait
13:30 cait happy new year magnuse :)
13:35 magnuse \o/
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13:42 kivilahtio khall: Bug 15253
13:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15253 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Add Koha::Logger based logging for SIP2
13:43 kivilahtio I am facing problems with Koha::Logger/Log4Perl loading all the filehandles to all logfiles defined in log4perl.conf
13:43 khall do go on
13:43 kivilahtio this is problematic if you are running Koha::Logger with different user credentials
13:44 khall: invoking Koha::Logger fomr apache requires www-data, sip2-server can be ran as www-data or koha
13:44 cli-scripts need different setup
13:44 khall: any suggestions on ho to resolve this issue?
13:44 Log4Perl needs to only load the logfiles it needs, not all of them
13:45 maybe this can be configured, but just asking if you have any tips
13:46 I managed to get the Koha::Logger to work on cli-scripts as well, but that needed some code changes to the Koha::Logger
13:46 khall hmm, we could rework Koha::Logger to optionally accept log4perl configuration instead of using the config file, and configure the SIP2 log4perl either in the SIPconfig.xml file, or yet another file
13:46 kivilahtio khall: that might work
13:46 khall the other option would be to just set up group permissions to the log files
13:46 kivilahtio khall: I really enjoy the single point of configuration for all config tho
13:47 khall me too kivilahtio
13:47 kivilahtio khall: If i can find the lazy-loading of log files, would that be ok?
13:47 khall so you've got a group koha_logger that has permissions for the log file(s) and www-data, the koha user and any other user could be part of that group
13:47 kivilahtio the less permissions the better
13:47 khall kivilahtio: yeah, I think that would be fine
13:47 kivilahtio khall: ok. Ill dig into that. Tahnks for help
13:48 khall np!
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13:48 cait hey kidclamp - happy new year!
13:48 tcohen happy new year, kidclamp!
13:48 kidclamp happy new year cait tcohen!
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13:49 cait happy new year, nengard!
13:50 nengard To you too!!
13:50 kivilahtio khall: looking at the code in production: log4perl.appender.INTRANET.create_at_logtime=true
13:50 nice :)
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14:07 oleonard Why did 2016 me commit to doing work in 2017? It just doesn't make sense.
14:09 cait hm?
14:09 magnuse foolish old oleonard2016
14:09 oleonard That guy was a jerk.
14:10 oleonard2017 will never do that to oleonard2018
14:12 cait ah :)
14:12 * cait likes allt he oleonards and oleopards
14:12 magnuse hooray for oleonard2017
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14:19 kivilahtio khall: I realized, you instantiate one Koha::Logger for the process handling SIP-requests. And that is passed all over hte place in the $server-HASH. I recall the best practice for Koha::Logger was to initialize on for each package?
14:19 so this way you can turn on debugging levels on a package-level
14:19 but then lose the ability to debug a specific SIP-client
14:20 khall exactly
14:20 kivilahtio looking into how to not pass the $server-pointer around
14:20 maybe that actually needs to be passed :(
14:20 khall we need to have the ability log on a per-client basis, if you come up with an alternative let me know!
14:21 kivilahtio maybe it can be a environment or global variable?
14:21 so instead of apssing the reference, just get the current server from $C4::SIP::SIPServer::activeServer
14:21 so instead of passing the reference, just get the current server from $C4::SIP::SIPServer::activeServer
14:22 or even better C4::SIP::SipServer::getCurrentServer()
14:22 or to have the logger in a global scope
14:24 khall: or does this sound like too-much-bad-practice to you?
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14:25 khall kivilahtio: That seems fine by me but we should probably get a second opinion. tcohen? ^
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14:53 oleonard I'm getting installer infinite loop when doing a db upgrade. I restarted memcached but the problem persists.
14:53 Anything else I should try?
14:54 tcohen khall: i've been trying to understand the problem and still have no opinion
14:54 oleonard: restart memcached then plack?
14:54 khall tcohen: thanks for looking tcohen!
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14:55 oleonard tcohen: I tried that with no success
14:55 cait oleonard: i had the same happen often
14:55 kidclamp try running the perl update script manually
14:55 cait only way i got out was by disabling pkack
14:55 kidclamp that has worked for me
14:55 tcohen ah, atomic updates
14:55 cait and then reenabling it after update
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14:56 tcohen kidclamp is right, oleonard
14:56 oleonard If I stop plack I get a 503 "Service unavailable" error
14:56 tcohen oleonard: not stopping it
14:56 you need to
14:56 kidclamp you have to disable plack, stop plack, restart apache
14:56 tcohen sudo koha-plack --disable kohadev ; sudo service apache2 restart
14:58 oleonard Thanks tcohen that worked
14:58 tcohen++
14:58 kidclamp++
14:58 cait++
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15:33 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: Error when testing Bug 13757" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/238
15:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC'
15:34 tcohen oleonard: you are missing a dependency bug
15:34 or didn't restart koha-plack
15:34 so it doesn't know about the new/changed .pm
15:34 oleonard I applied 17792
15:35 tcohen it needs 17755
15:35 and 17813
15:35 oleonard Oh right I missed that 17792 had dependencies too. Sorry.
15:35 tcohen https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]raph.cgi?id=13757
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15:36 tcohen oleonard: thanks for taking care!
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15:59 oleonard khall: I think it's probably possible to replace the animated spinner gifs with Font Awesome, but I don't think it should block 16072
15:59 Oh sorry, I see that it didn't :)
16:00 khall oleonard: thanks! was just wondering. that way we can ditch the last gif as well!
16:00 oleonard Yup
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16:27 reiveune bye
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16:27 tcohen oleonard: any clue where is the mistake on 13757?
16:28 oleonard I have not investigated, tcohen
16:29 tcohen alright
16:29 * tcohen loves Joubu's git-bz
16:30 tcohen we should make it the default on kohadevbox
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16:33 cait oleonard: thx for commenting on bug 15505
16:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15505 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, In Discussion , Mark Hold Items 'On hold' instead of 'Available'
16:34 cait oleonard: I was worried some libraries might not like it - not sure about ours, most have build holds queue running but don't pick the items
16:34 or only when there is time
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16:37 bag @wunder pdx
16:37 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Mikeshouse Cully, Portland, Oregon is -1.6°C (8:36 AM PST on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady). Air stagnation advisory in effect until 10 am PST Monday...
16:47 druthb @wunder Houston, TX
16:47 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Daintrees Corner, First Ward, Houston, Texas is 23.5°C (10:47 AM CST on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
16:47 druthb Life in the tropics.
16:48 bag happy new year druthb
16:48 druthb happy new year to you, too, bag. :)
16:48 oleonard @wunder 45701
16:48 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Longview Hts, Athens, Ohio is 13.4°C (11:48 AM EST on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
16:49 * oleonard looks at that temperature wonders if we'll get our annual mid-January blizzard
16:49 druthb We're getting another cold snap tomorrow, probably get down close to freezing. The farmers are worried about their oranges.
16:55 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:55 huginn` cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is -1.2°C (5:52 PM CET on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
16:58 kivilahtio bye bye
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17:41 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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18:19 mtompset @seen khall
18:19 huginn` mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 19 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <khall> oleonard: thanks! was just wondering. that way we can ditch the last gif as well!
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19:22 mtompset rangi++ # thanks for the quick reply on the question.
19:59 oleonard Bye all
19:59 eythian @later tell rangi been watching "Travelers" on Netflix, might be your thing too.
19:59 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
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20:20 tcohen hi
20:21 * kchris_away waves
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20:28 tcohen1 @wunder cordoba, argentina
20:28 huginn` tcohen1: The current temperature in Valle Escondido, Cordoba, Argentina, Córdoba, Argentina is 31.5°C (5:28 PM ART on January 03, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
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