IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-29

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00:19 dcook It would be great if we actually had the REST API up and running...
00:19 * dcook is hacking together something which just seems like a bad idea without it..
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00:44 * Francesca waves at dcook
00:48 * dcook waves to Francesca
00:48 Francesca sup dcook
00:51 dcook Too much work and too little time :)
01:04 Francesca that does not sound like a good combo
01:05 dcook Nopes!
01:06 Surely it'll all work out in the end thoguh
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05:20 dcook I wonder sometimes how often we remove Perl dependencies
05:20 * dcook sometimes wonders if Koha will just depend on all of CPAN one day
05:23 dcook Interesting...
05:23 wahanui hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:24 dcook "Upgrade to 16.06.00.050 done (Bug 8835). Everything is fine."
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8835 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Two indexes on biblioitems.issn
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06:53 ashimema dcook
06:54 the rest api 'IS' up and running
06:54 you just need to add endpoints to it
06:54 the cities endpoint is the best example so far
06:55 * ashimema is encouraging documentation to be written, but there's a lack of experience around REST and API good practice in general.
06:56 ashimema we're trying to answer the guidline questions to start with..
06:58 like: Should we practice HATEOS? How REST should we go? What should we do with ID's? Why are we mimicking the database when REST gives us a means to create a clean departure from poor db design?  How far should we go in splitting up the specification files? Should we also be developing an RPC API in parallel for endpoint which don't clearly fit REST practices?
06:59 How should we handle partial updates of resources? (PATCH with a specified patch format OR PUT on field level endpoints)
07:00 dcool^
07:00 dcook ^
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07:26 reiveune hello
07:26 wahanui que tal, reiveune
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07:43 fridolin hie there
07:43 cofeeeeeeeeeee
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07:43 fridolin thusday only, mhhh
07:45 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams
07:45 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 2.7°C (8:42 AM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady).
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07:57 alex_a hello
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08:48 cait can someone confirm adding library ean under plack is working for them on master? just tried and failed in 16.11.
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10:08 * cait waves
10:11 fridolin 16.11 is in the air
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11:29 ashimema caits evil cati1 twin is here again
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12:22 vfernandes hi #koha
12:23 one question: in acquisition module when ordering form a new record, the record is automatically created on the system?
12:23 *from a new record
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13:22 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:43 rsantellan good morning #koha
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13:55 * kidclamp waves
13:56 LibraryClaire hey kidclamp
13:56 wahanui kidclamp is rockin the stache
13:56 LibraryClaire amazing
13:57 kidclamp hah
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14:10 * cait1 waves
14:10 cait1 LibraryClaire: got your delivery?
14:10 * LibraryClaire waits
14:10 LibraryClaire no
14:10 cait1 boo
14:11 no call yet?
14:11 LibraryClaire fyi sitting in a flat without furniture gets uncomfortable really fast
14:11 no
14:11 cait1 build a pile out of clothes?
14:11 LibraryClaire sitting on a blanket
14:11 leaning against a radiator
14:12 cait1 hope they will be there soon
14:13 LibraryClaire me too but the slot is until 9pm
14:13 so might be here abother 6 hours
14:15 * LibraryClaire debates the practicality of eating without plates or bowls
14:15 cait1 paper towels?
14:15 LibraryClaire not sure pasta and sauce will go on a towel :D
14:16 cait1 eat out of the pot? :)
14:16 LibraryClaire that is my current top option
14:17 or locate tupperware
14:22 kidclamp mugs?
14:22 LibraryClaire i have a couple of mugs
14:25 cait1 hm does someoen have experience with the fine days feature?
14:25 well suspension in days feature?
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15:34 josef_moravec khall: are you online?
15:34 khall what's up?
15:34 josef_moravec i would like to know your opinion on this idea:
15:35 does it make sense to somehow refactor the code related to account types?
15:35 for now, we have some hardcoded values and MANUAL_INV authorised values,
15:36 but setting the manual_inv av is a bit weird
15:37 i am thinking about a new db table accounttypes, with own admin page.... how do you like that idea khall?
15:37 reiveune bye
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15:38 khall josef_moravec: that sounds good to me! though I'd name it account_types ; ) Also, think forward to having both custom fee types *and* custom payment types
15:39 josef_moravec i have no problem with name account_types ;)
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15:40 josef_moravec khall: what do you mean by payment type? like: payment, forgive, write-off? Or like: cash, paypal, creditcard, ...
15:41 khall the latter. Like cash, check, credit card, cans of food, etc
15:42 it's a feature the original accounts rewrite has that I'd like to re-implement
15:42 josef_moravec khall: that make sense to me, thanks!
15:42 khall np!
15:42 josef_moravec Yep, I remember you have a big amount of code in your original account rewrite
15:43 khall yeah, I'm re-implementing it all bit by bit. Gotta get moving on that again! Couple of pqa patches ready for pushing, but we need to let master sit for a bit in case some bugs show up in 16.11
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15:45 josef_moravec khall: I'd like to collaborate on it, if you are not against it ;)
15:45 khall josef_moravec: and it's always on my wish list for new features to be implemented using the API and AJAX rather than full page refreshes
15:45 josef_moravec: absolutely!
15:46 josef_moravec khall: absolutely agree!
15:46 khall: do you have that react code you showed up in Marseille somewhere? What is your plan with it?
15:47 khall josef_moravec: https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]its/cities_editor
15:48 I'm still highly inclined that we go with React. I've gathered feedback from many people. It really seems like React is the best fit for us in ease of use and power
15:48 josef_moravec khall: sounds good ;)
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17:00 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
17:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.0°C (5:51 PM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady).
17:00 eythian @wunder amsterdam, nl
17:00 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Aalsmeerderdijk, Schiphol-Rijk, Netherlands is 2.2°C (5:58 PM CET on November 29, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady).
17:00 eythian weird
17:00 josef_moravec khall: do you still think we should accountlines table split into account_credits and account_debits?
17:01 khall it has pros and cons. At this point I don't think it's absolutely necessary.
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17:22 josef_moravec khall: yep, thanks
17:22 khall it's just such a radical change that at this point I think it would cause more problems than it solves ; )
17:24 * cait1 wishes her mysql workbench would stop dying
17:27 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17344 - Followup to fix selectors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bf7e24aaa25db3b53> / Bug 17344 - Can't set guarantor in quick add brief form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]245fb03838ecc560e>
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17:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17670: Grammar mistakes - effect vs affect <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c3e9b189845dd68a4> / Bug 17577: Improve sample notices for article requests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cfef8431bae8f4086> / Bug 17395 - exporting checkouts in CVS generates a file with wrong extension <http://git.koha-community.org
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19:59 eythian @later tell cait https://blog.kallisti.net.nz/2[…]museum-amsterdam/
19:59 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
19:59 eythian @later tell wizzyrea https://blog.kallisti.net.nz/2[…]museum-amsterdam/
20:00 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
20:00 cait thank you :)
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22:00 dcook @later tell ashimema All good questions I reckon. I know I'm struggling a bit with those very topics due to the structure of the existing system.
22:00 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:00 dcook @later tell ashimema As for the REST API being up and running, it requires Mojolicious, yeah? But Mojolicious isn't a required module for Koha. Maybe I should look at the Debian packages rather than the source though... with a install from source there's no REST API.
22:00 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
22:01 dcook @later tell ashimema At least no REST API out of the box. If the Debian packages have it out of the box, maybe I should be developing with that in mind...
22:01 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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