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| 01:27 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 01:28 | ahh, i see crispy is no longer online | |
| 01:30 | ..was going to suggest apache + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules | |
| 01:30 | rangi: https://perishablepress.com/ei[…]ches-mod_rewrite/ | |
| 01:31 | oops, typo.. sorry to bother chris :) | |
| 01:32 | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/c[…]t/howto/auth.html | |
| 01:33 | http://webauth.stanford.edu/auth.html | |
| 01:36 | @later tell CrispyBran: try apache + mod_webauth or mod_rewrite modules | |
| 01:36 | @later tell CrispyBran: https://perishablepress.com/ei[…]ches-mod_rewrite/ | |
| 01:36 | @later tell CrispyBran: http://webauth.stanford.edu/auth.html | |
| 01:36 | huginn | mtj: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:36 | mtj: The operation succeeded. | |
| 01:36 | mtj: The operation succeeded. | |
| 01:39 | mtj | ..but afaik, its trivial to fake a referer... so perhaps a bad idea? :'( |
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| 01:47 | mtj | apache and shib is probably the best option |
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| 01:48 | mtj | ^ ..i think that would work as an ezproxy substitue, even? |
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| 01:55 | mtj | apache+shib+mod_shib+mod_proxy = ezproxy |
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| 02:08 | dcook | @later tell wizzyrea this made me think of you for some reason http://imgur.com/gallery/6z6Wp |
| 02:08 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:08 | dcook | @later tell wizzyrea I may have popped on to IRC just to say that... |
| 02:08 | huginn | dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 02:09 | dcook | "D |
| 02:09 | :D* | |
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| 04:14 | dcook | I seem to recall there being test builder scripts.. |
| 04:14 | t::lib::Mocks? | |
| 04:15 | t/lib... | |
| 04:16 | Cool, I'm going to make a t::lib::MockServer, or something | |
| 04:21 | Or is that just too much work today.. | |
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| 05:32 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:33 | * cait | waves |
| 05:35 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:11 | drojf | morning #koha |
| 06:12 | * cait | waves |
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| 06:15 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
| 06:15 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:15 | huginn | LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 8.4°C (8:14 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:15 | cait | brr |
| 06:15 | drojf | hi cait and LibraryClaire |
| 06:15 | LibraryClaire | completely soaked through |
| 06:16 | and my bag broke on my way in | |
| 06:16 | cait | ;( |
| 06:16 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 06:16 | LibraryClaire | hi drojf :) |
| 06:16 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Segeberger Straße, Wensin, Germany is 7.5°C (8:12 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:16 | drojf | stop giving me wensin, whatever that is |
| 06:16 | cait | about the same |
| 06:17 | drojf | Wensin ist eine Gemeinde am Ufer des Wardersees im Kreis Segeberg in Schleswig-Holstein |
| 06:17 | wtf | |
| 06:17 | cait | lol |
| 06:17 | drojf | @wunder txl |
| 06:17 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 7.3°C (8:15 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:17 | Joubu | @later tell dcook what's wrong with t/lib? |
| 06:17 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:20 | * drojf | wants tea. or coffee. omg decisions before first tea or coffee |
| 06:20 | LibraryClaire | I will be getting coffee as soon as the machine has finished making it! |
| 06:21 | * LibraryClaire | goes on a coffee hunt |
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| 06:23 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:23 | * cait | guesses she should hurry up to join LibraryClaire at work |
| 06:23 | cait | but it's raining! |
| 06:23 | * LibraryClaire | recommends an umbrella |
| 06:23 | dcook | Joubu: Nothing at all. I just didn't realize it existed until just the other day, and remembered again today :) |
| 06:24 | Joubu: I was thinking of adding a module for mocking servers... | |
| 06:24 | I've been using Test::TCP and Net::Server::HTTP within individual tests, but it would probably be nicer to have a module shared among tests for it.. | |
| 06:25 | Joubu | yes we have not put enough code yet in lib |
| 06:25 | but we need to centralise some stuffs | |
| 06:25 | dcook | Agreed :) |
| 06:26 | I wonder if having a mock server would be helpful to people.. | |
| 06:26 | I suppose so | |
| 06:26 | For my purpose, I'm using it to mock a OAI server, so my OAI client can be tested | |
| 06:26 | But it could be used for the Koha::OAI modules as well.. | |
| 06:26 | In fact, I suppose those all could be tested together? | |
| 06:26 | Joubu | I don't think we have tests already |
| 06:26 | dcook | I'll keep it in mind, and see what I come up with :) |
| 06:26 | Joubu | iirc someone asks on a bug to get test for it, but not sure we got them |
| 06:27 | drojf | hi dcook! |
| 06:27 | dcook | heya drojf :) |
| 06:27 | Joubu: Cool. I figure people are going to be asking for lots of tests with bug 10662 so I'm trying to provide as many as possible | |
| 06:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Patch doesn't apply , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client |
| 06:27 | drojf | and hi Joubu. thanks for the key, i'll try to add it somewhen this weekend |
| 06:27 | dcook | And learning the hard-way the joys of test-driven design. I wish I'd written the tests from the start rather than after.. |
| 06:28 | Joubu | dcook: bug 15108 |
| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , OAI-PMH provider improvements |
| 06:29 | dcook | Oooh. I've been hoping someone would fix the server to use UTC as per the spec.. |
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| 06:29 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:29 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
| 06:30 | LibraryClaire | hi alex_a |
| 06:30 | alex_a | salut LibraryClaire |
| 06:34 | Joubu | I am stuck with a pref name... cf bug 17453 |
| 06:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17453 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Inter-site holds improvement |
| 06:34 | Joubu | I need a pref to list the patron categories which won't be affected by the behavior of the other pref is it's switched off |
| 06:35 | OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupUnlessForCategories sounds... a bit ... too long... isn't? | |
| 06:37 | dcook | hehe |
| 06:38 | Joubu | cait, LibraryClaire maybe? |
| 06:41 | LibraryClaire | hello |
| 06:41 | hehe | |
| 06:41 | OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickupExceptions ? | |
| 06:41 | it's still relatively long | |
| 06:42 | cait | i like exceptions |
| 06:42 | drojf | a nice acronym for holdsifavailableatpickup. HIAAP :P |
| 06:42 | * cait | grabs the umbrella and heads out |
| 06:42 | Joubu | It's but it's "if available" not "not if available" |
| 06:43 | so it's an exception for something true | |
| 06:43 | the name sounds wrong in that case | |
| 06:43 | LibraryClaire | brrrrr |
| 06:43 | * LibraryClaire | searches for brain |
| 06:43 | Joubu | that would work if the first pref did the contrary |
| 06:43 | LibraryClaire | what's the first pref called? |
| 06:44 | Joubu | OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup |
| 06:44 | LibraryClaire | the first pref excludes people, yes? |
| 06:44 | ok | |
| 06:44 | Joubu | no the first pref is on by default |
| 06:44 | So maybe I should invert everything | |
| 06:45 | LibraryClaire | the first pref doesn't change current functionality unless turned off - am I understanding correctly? |
| 06:45 | Joubu | yes, that's it |
| 06:45 | LibraryClaire | ok |
| 06:46 | * LibraryClaire | thinks |
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| 06:51 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:51 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:51 | magnuse | :-O |
| 06:51 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:51 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 06:52 | alex_a | :-) |
| 06:52 | magnuse | @wunder bodø, norway |
| 06:52 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
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| 06:53 | AndrewIsh | g'morn all |
| 06:53 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:55 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 06:55 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 4.8°C (8:54 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:55 | eythian | Chilly |
| 07:05 | LibraryClaire | hi AndrewIsh |
| 07:08 | AndrewIsh | hi LibraryClaire |
| 07:09 | drojf | hi eythian and AndrewIsh |
| 07:13 | liw | @wunder helsinki |
| 07:13 | huginn | liw: The current temperature in Helsinki, Finland is 4.0°C (9:50 AM EEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | AndrewIsh | hi drojf |
| 07:13 | ashimema | @wunder stevenage, uk |
| 07:13 | huginn | ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.9°C (8:13 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | AndrewIsh | @wunder machynlleth |
| 07:13 | ashimema | mornin' #koha |
| 07:13 | huginn | AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, United Kingdom, United Kingdom is 4.3°C (8:06 AM BST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | AndrewIsh | wunder, you wrong! it's 2.5C |
| 07:15 | hi ashimema | |
| 07:15 | LibraryClaire | hi ashimema |
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| 07:16 | * AndrewIsh | peeks outside, shivers and returns to the warmth of the office |
| 07:28 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:28 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:28 | magnuse | does that mean i can take the rest of the week off? |
| 07:29 | AndrewIsh | magnuse: i think it does! |
| 07:29 | magnuse | woohoo! |
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| 07:32 | archer121 | Hi, we use the batch checkout facility to issue books to the patrons. But through this feature, it is not possible to renew the books. I know that the "forced_checkout" permission will do the job, but is there a permission that will just allow renewals only from batch checkout? |
| 07:33 | Joubu | no |
| 07:33 | We do not have specific behavior for batch checkout so far | |
| 07:34 | archer121 | forced checkout will bypass all limits. All I want is the staff be allowed to renew books to the patron when he tries to checkout the book (that is already in his account) |
| 07:34 | Joubu: Is it difficult to implement? | |
| 07:35 | Joubu | It depends |
| 07:35 | I don't think so | |
| 07:35 | But it would be the first behavior specific for batch checkouts, so I guess they are some hidden problematics | |
| 07:36 | there* | |
| 07:37 | archer121 | If I sponsor some developer, how muck would it cost? |
| 07:37 | much* | |
| 07:38 | Joubu | heh |
| 07:39 | archer121 | I just need the approximate figure so that I can talk with my superiors |
| 07:39 | Joubu | it depends on the number of hours it needs and who are you going to ask to implement it I guess :) |
| 07:41 | archer121: whoever you ask, make sure the code will be submitted on bugzilla | |
| 07:41 | * ashimema | hints at Joubu being a good contractor for this sort of thing ;) |
| 07:42 | ashimema | but you need to write a good spec explaining exactly what it is you want.. for any developer to stand a chance getting it right to your specifications ;) |
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| 07:45 | Joubu | or ask the developer to write the spec and validate it :p |
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| 07:47 | Joubu | haaa atheia :) |
| 07:47 | atheia: hi! Would you like to take a look at 17471 and 17472 please? | |
| 07:48 | archer121 | ashimema: I need to ask my boss. What she will be asking first is how much it will cost. Can I know how much (atleast max amount), so that I can propose this to my boss? How much do developers usually charge for such things? |
| 07:52 | drojf | i don't think it is possible to answer that. i'd say you should pay joubu to write the spec to get an estimate how much the feature would cost :) |
| 07:52 | atheia | Good morning! |
| 07:52 | wahanui | well, it's morning somewhere, yes |
| 07:52 | drojf | hi atheia |
| 07:52 | atheia | Joubu, sure will do. |
| 07:52 | * atheia | waves |
| 07:54 | atheia | Joubu, yeah, both sound sensible and eminently doable. |
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| 07:54 | magnuse | archer121: people here are mostly developers, not necessarily the ones who set the price. my recommendation would be to write up what you want in an email, send it to the list and ask for prices/offers. that will reach more people and give some time to think about it |
| 07:54 | bug 17471 | |
| 07:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17471 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Date of last checkout |
| 07:55 | magnuse | bug 17472 |
| 07:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title |
| 07:58 | smon | hi! how would I bulkimport loc authority data? i am new to ILSs: is there already some script/program that can map loc's rdf to marc? |
| 08:02 | * ashimema | hasn't yet got round to scheduling OSS Tuits for AndrewIsh and atheia yet.. but likes the idea of those two getting done at some point too |
| 08:02 | * atheia | goes off to find out what or who OSS Tuits is. |
| 08:02 | ashimema | that should be /open time oss tuits/ really.. i.e unsponsored work time |
| 08:02 | OSS = open source software | |
| 08:03 | atheia | sure… tuits? |
| 08:03 | ashimema | tuits https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round_tuit |
| 08:04 | atheia | Ooh, that's a fun word. |
| 08:04 | ashimema | or http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]ine.php?term=tuit perhaps is a better explanation ;) |
| 08:04 | you never heard that before atheia? | |
| 08:04 | atheia | I like |
| 08:04 | nope | |
| 08:04 | ashimema | it's fairly common in oss circles I've lurked in in the paste |
| 08:05 | atheia | It will be in my circles now too :D |
| 08:05 | ashimema | kind of a 'mythical payment' for work you 'might never get around to' |
| 08:05 | :) | |
| 08:06 | I'd like to arrange 'tuits' to be dished out within the company.. i.e alloted time for us devs to just do what we think needs doing to better koha without it being driven by the boss or the client ;) (QA, Signoff, Minor Enhancements like the above) | |
| 08:06 | * AndrewIsh | is intrigued by the concept of "mythical payment" |
| 08:07 | ashimema | it's use in the context of "I've love to, but I don't have enough tuits right now" |
| 08:07 | round tuits is interchangable | |
| 08:07 | smon | sorry, i am somewhat confused: are you talking about my question or continuing a conversation from before I joined the chat? :D |
| 08:08 | ashimema | continueing smon |
| 08:08 | I'm not sure of the answer to your question.. | |
| 08:09 | Joubu | ashimema: it's more or less what I try to do every day ;) |
| 08:09 | ashimema | bulkmarcimport.pm 'might' do it if you can get the loc authorities in a mass marc file |
| 08:09 | smon^ | |
| 08:09 | indeed Joubu :) | |
| 08:09 | smon | it only might? |
| 08:09 | atheia | Definitely, mythical tuit payment would be a lovely company perk ^^ |
| 08:09 | smon | are there tools for rdf->marc? |
| 08:12 | mtj | smon: perl ./bulkmarcimport.pl -a -m ISO2709 -file ./authorities.mrc |
| 08:13 | ashimema | thanks mtj |
| 08:13 | mtj | ^..ive used that script for authority import, it works well :0) |
| 08:13 | ashimema | it's been ages sin'ce i've looked at those scripts ;) |
| 08:13 | smon | ok thx mtj |
| 08:13 | i am thinking about using that or stage-marc-import.pl | |
| 08:14 | mtj | np ashimema :) |
| 08:14 | ashimema | cait knows about stage-marc-import |
| 08:14 | smon | i was just wondering what ashimema's `might` in quotations was supposed to indicate :D |
| 08:14 | ashimema | the two importers 'should' match each other for functionality.. but they do sometimes fall out of sync |
| 08:14 | mtj | smon, they basically do the same thing - commandline script is more 'reliable' (ive found) |
| 08:15 | ashimema | it was supposed to indicate that I couldn't remember if it handled authorities as well as biblio's |
| 08:15 | smon | i see |
| 08:15 | ashimema | mtj, you realise you can use the stage scripts from the commmand line too right ;) |
| 08:15 | smon | no, i already produced my own authority files and uploaded them to koha |
| 08:15 | that worked quite well so far | |
| 08:16 | mtj | ashimema: hmm, i dont think ive used those scripts via cli, thanks |
| 08:16 | eythian | @later tell marcelr in case you need help with the language, https://twitter.com/nuttyxande[…]89242044610936832 |
| 08:16 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:17 | ashimema | cait uses them regularly for their union catalogue stuff I believe ;) |
| 08:19 | Joubu | atheia: sorry I thought the 2 bugs were regressions, but they and enh indeed, feel free to ignore them! |
| 08:19 | ashimema | hehe |
| 08:20 | smon | ok, so b) I will have to see if the scripts do what I want, but for a) transforming loc's rdf into marc I'd have to write something myself? |
| 08:21 | Joubu | are* |
| 08:22 | ashimema | I'm sure there's somthink out there to do the rdf -> marc21? conversion already.. but not sure who wold be best to ask |
| 08:23 | smon | ok |
| 08:23 | where should I leave a note? :D | |
| 08:23 | atheia | Joubu ah, yeah — no they are enhancements. They make sense. I have them on my 'when I get a chance' pile :-) |
| 08:33 | smon | aaaand another question: what about the loc's update feed (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/feed/1)? is there a tool to crawl that and update koha/generate marc authority records? |
| 08:35 | ah wait, the feed already lists marcxml records, nevermind | |
| 08:41 | atheia | bug 17472 should be ready for signoff :-) |
| 08:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Needs Signoff , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title |
| 08:41 | atheia | (that was the easy one — though both are quite trivial). |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | tuits :) |
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| 09:05 | * LibraryClaire | is finally dry |
| 09:05 | LibraryClaire | Germany rained on me |
| 09:08 | eythian | https://goo.gl/photos/5u2KzVYWj7bEYgWC8 <-- LibraryClaire, it does that |
| 09:09 | LibraryClaire | eek |
| 09:13 | * LibraryClaire | makes note not to get a ground floor apartment |
| 09:20 | eythian | that was summer, too. |
| 09:20 | (and I'd taken the wrong bus by accident.) | |
| 09:25 | LibraryClaire | I took the wrong bus the other week |
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| 09:36 | eythian | I don't recommend it, you end up in the wrong place. |
| 09:37 | * cait | doesn't know what she is talking about |
| 09:38 | cait | i got here safe and dry :) |
| 09:55 | drojf | @wunder txl |
| 09:55 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Rue du Capitaine Jean Maridor, Berlin, Germany is 8.1°C (11:50 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:56 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 09:56 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 9.8°C (11:42 AM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:56 | eythian | warming up |
| 10:05 | alex_a | Does anyone know if the borrowers.updated_on column is visible anywhere in koha ? |
| 10:09 | Joubu | see bug 16276, no it's not |
| 10:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , When automatically deleting expired borrowers, make sure they didn't log in recently |
| 10:09 | drojf | @later tell rangi can you kick digitalmarketing.xperts12gmail.com from BZ? |
| 10:09 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:18 | drojf | Joubu++ |
| 10:18 | bug 17476 fixes the koha nightlies. it's trivial, could someone qa it please? | |
| 10:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17476 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Failed test 'Create DateTime with dt_from_string() for 2100-01-01 with TZ in less than 2s' |
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| 10:56 | * AndrewIsh | thinks his coding buddy isn't pulling his weight today https://goo.gl/photos/KErVK7pBuHLjvfJF7 |
| 11:03 | drojf | AndrewIsh: getting done more than i do |
| 11:04 | AndrewIsh | drojf: lol |
| 11:17 | * cait | waves |
| 11:37 | * AndrewIsh | waves back at cait |
| 11:42 | eythian | http://www.robbomb.com/wp-cont[…]2016/10/tasks.gif <-- AndrewIsh, it's because you're working as a team. |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:31 | LibraryClaire | hola tcohen |
| 12:31 | tcohen | =D |
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| 12:32 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 12:33 | tcohen | hola rsantellan |
| 12:33 | AndrewIsh | eythian: aha, *that's* what it is ;-) |
| 12:34 | hola tcohen | |
| 12:34 | drojf | later #koha |
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| 12:37 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 12:37 | LibraryClaire | hallo oleonard |
| 12:38 | tcohen | hi oleonard |
| 12:38 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:40 | LibraryClaire | :D |
| 12:43 | oleonard | Someone please ban digitalmarketing.xperts12gmail.com from Bugzilla >:( |
| 12:44 | tcohen | cait: ? |
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| 12:47 | ashimema | love that meme eythian |
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| 12:50 | AndrewIsh | hi oleonard |
| 12:50 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 12:51 | tcohen | hehehe |
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| 13:25 | tcohen | hi jenkins_koha |
| 13:42 | rsantellan | one little question, are the koha jenkin project setup available somewhere? |
| 13:42 | * magnuse | hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon |
| 13:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session |
| 13:44 | tcohen | magnuse: have you tested it? |
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| 13:46 | AndrewIsh | quick question that i couldn't find the answer to on the wiki. when creating a template for the admin interface, where would new css styles be added? |
| 13:46 | tcohen | staff-global.css maybe? |
| 13:47 | AndrewIsh | tcohen: aha! that looks promising, despite finding the directory in which it lives, i somehow missed that particular file... |
| 13:47 | ashimema | lol |
| 13:48 | tcohen | koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css |
| 13:48 | he, ok | |
| 13:48 | AndrewIsh | i guess it's just a case of appending new style definitions to the end? there doesn't appear to be any particular structure to that file |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Correct |
| 13:49 | tcohen | well, we try to put things together |
| 13:49 | even though there is no structure | |
| 13:49 | eythian | @wunder ams |
| 13:49 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.1°C (3:48 PM CEST on October 21, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:50 | AndrewIsh | ok, sounds good. i'll keep all my styles together and keep their scope suitably small :) |
| 13:50 | thanks both | |
| 13:50 | tcohen | the best advise is that you ask oleonard :-P |
| 13:51 | oleonard | AndrewIsh: I plan to convert staff-global.css to Sass, and that would be a good time to re-think how to manage our CSS in a more modular way if it makes sense for us to do so |
| 13:51 | AndrewIsh | tcohen: indeed, i'm finding that's the case for most things i'm asking, he really is a fount of all knowledge |
| 13:52 | oleonard: sounds like a good plan :) | |
| 13:52 | oleonard | AndrewIsh: I'd be interested to hear if you have opinions about it based on your non-Koha work |
| 13:53 | AndrewIsh | oleonard: only that i wish i'd adopted it at the start of the project rather than thinking about it 18 months in, so my css bears an uncanny resemblance to staff-global.css, only slightly less structure... |
| 13:53 | oleonard: a conversion to LESS is on my to-do list too... | |
| 13:54 | s/LESS/Sass/ | |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Yeah LESS doesn't appear to have a future |
| 13:55 | AndrewIsh | oleonard: indeed, Sass does seem to be in favour, that is, until another CSS preprocessor comes along |
| 13:57 | * ashimema | for a moment wonders why we have serverside session storage at all |
| 13:57 | * LibraryClaire | wants to learn about Sass |
| 13:57 | * ashimema | reads mojolicious::sessions for inspiration to session management and how it relates to bug 17427 |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17427 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Replace CGI::Session with Data::Session |
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| 13:59 | eythian | ashimema: what would you have other than server side session storage? |
| 13:59 | AndrewIsh | LibraryClaire: it's awesome, makes CSS considerably less of a nightmare to create / maintain :) |
| 13:59 | eythian | if you want to load all session data into a cookie, well, I won't talk to you any more :P |
| 13:59 | LibraryClaire | cool! :D |
| 14:00 | * AndrewIsh | realises he somehow has never worked with YUI and suddenly realises he needs to, off to read the docs... |
| 14:00 | eythian | no you don't |
| 14:00 | you don't want to do that | |
| 14:01 | * ashimema | wonders what eythian find so offensive about cookies? |
| 14:01 | eythian | cookies are fine, but they're not the place to cram all session data |
| 14:01 | Joubu | cookies are not good with beers |
| 14:01 | eythian | just a token that accesses the local session storage. |
| 14:02 | wahanui: cookies | |
| 14:02 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 14:02 | ashimema | what session data do we actually need.. I'm trying to remember what we do with our sessions ;) |
| 14:02 | eythian | probably not a lot :) |
| 14:02 | but there's also safety concerns | |
| 14:03 | there have been popular systems where, well, guess what happened when someone set a cookie "admin=1" | |
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| 14:03 | * ashimema | relies happily on signed hmac cookies |
| 14:03 | eythian | yes, that's good. |
| 14:03 | Also, they take up network space unnecessarily. | |
| 14:03 | because they have to go back, forth, back, forth, every request. | |
| 14:04 | ashimema | in fact.. I don't use cookies at all in my other project.. we use jwt bearer tokens and are in general stateless |
| 14:04 | (we don't do search history or the likes in those apps) | |
| 14:05 | * AndrewIsh | immediately goes cross-eyed reading the YUI docs and decides a cup of tea is in order... |
| 14:05 | eythian | AndrewIsh: told you so |
| 14:05 | * ashimema | should really look into our sessions system in koha.. remind myself exactly what we need such sessions for.. I'm sure there's 'a better way' ;) |
| 14:05 | AndrewIsh | eythian: you were *so* right... |
| 14:06 | * eythian | sees no upsides to client-side session storage, expect when you have a specific need to keep the server as stateless as possible. |
| 14:11 | oleonard | AndrewIsh: You only need to know about the YUI grid. https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]erns#Page_layouts |
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| 14:13 | AndrewIsh | oleonard: oooooh! that's exactly the sort of thing i was looking for! thanks :) trying to disassemble existing markup (with all the TT conditionals) to figure out the YUI grid structure was proving somewhat tedious |
| 14:14 | Joubu | tcohen: do you remember why WWW::CSRF and Sereal are not packaged? |
| 14:17 | * ashimema | sees no upsides to server-side session storage, except when you have specific need to have state on the server ;) |
| 14:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17477: Duplicating a subfield yields an empty subfield tag <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]066ca1ebad169a5b6> / Bug 10337: (followup) Upper case MARC flavour <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b4cbbd0a295bbaaf5> / Bug 10337: (QA followup) Allow choosing MARC flavour <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
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| 14:22 | * ashimema | thinks he's got too into the world of REST and having clientside and serverside apps developed independently |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Is the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin system preference not working? Doesn't look like it is to me. |
| 14:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17393: Fix non-Latin chars handling in self reg <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7168cd36b40d7941> |
| 14:32 | LibraryClaire | see ya laters #koha |
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| 14:38 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17426: Do not set AutoCommit in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd1a7eb64a2ecc9f6> / Bug 17405 Edit record uses Default framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0404fa5b3b2aa8651> |
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| 14:46 | oleonard | Oh I see, the UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin *must* have a space after the colon. That seems very picky (and not obvious from the description) |
| 14:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10455 - DBRev 16.06.00.034 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bc1c6529feaddf0c> / Bug 10455 (QA Followup) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0517d8f26512a1c71> / Bug 10455: Fix tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b24e934a3af7c73de> / Bug 10455: Remove MARC |
| 14:58 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16245: [QA Follow-up] Replace typeofrecord2 by biblevel <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2ad472769e79e148> / Bug 16245: RIS export file type incorrect <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c13274c0e41497472> / Bug 17368: Update KitchenSinkPlugin.kpz <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a=commitdiff;h=6f | |
| 15:10 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17411: Remove 3 other occurrences of exit 1 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fbdeeaaedd9703382> / Bug 17411 - Change exit 1 to exit 0 in acqui/basket.pl to prevent Internal Server... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7a91fa4a45a90668> / Bug 16687 - Translatability: Fix issues in Administration preferences <http: | |
| 15:20 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17249: GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - rm GetAuthValCodeFromField <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1b7639be56058a26> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]261a8831f2cd4ecaf> / Bug 17249: Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesFromField - (follow-up) inventory <http://gi | |
| 15:20 | ashimema | huginn soup |
| 15:20 | huginn | ashimema: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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| 15:33 | oleonard | Is it possible to seach the OPAC and exclude a certain collection code or itemtype in your query? |
| 15:35 | tcohen | oleonard: yes |
| 15:36 | that's what advanced search does | |
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| 15:38 | * LibraryClaire | waves |
| 15:39 | oleonard | tcohen: Advanced search with "more options" gives the option of using "not" for keyword, title, etc, but not for ccode or itemtype |
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| 15:41 | tcohen | oleonard: what are you trying to do, specifically? |
| 15:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17251: Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetKohaAuthorisedValuesMapping <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]750ad58df2c25c744> / Bug 17250: Do not retrieve marc subfield structure when the authorised value is not... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d8e19ba3e24519757> / Bug 17250 - Koha::AuthorisedValues - Remove GetA |
| 15:42 | oleonard | tcohen: I would like to design a search by keyword which excludes results with a specific item type |
| 15:42 | tcohen | alrigth |
| 15:49 | ashimema | tcohen.. cities fixed :) |
| 15:50 | I was wrong :D Swagger is ok, i was just testing the wrong thing :S | |
| 15:50 | so.. no need to package a new json-validator or swagger2.. | |
| 15:50 | I've added the alteration to the test in a followup.. would apreciate your final thoughts :) | |
| 15:51 | tcohen | ok |
| 15:51 | I'll review it today | |
| 15:51 | so Kyla can push it :-D | |
| 15:51 | ashimema | :) |
| 16:00 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:02 | tcohen | farewell, biblioitems.marc |
| 16:03 | ashimema | :D |
| 16:03 | * ashimema | hopes his comments didn't stall that one |
| 16:04 | tcohen | ashimema: it is pushed AFAICT |
| 16:05 | ashimema | oh.. i'm thinking about the wrong bug |
| 16:05 | biblioitems.marcxml ;) | |
| 16:05 | bug 17196 | |
| 16:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17196 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move marcxml out of the biblioitems table |
| 16:10 | AndrewIsh | the weekend has arrived, bye #koha! |
| 16:11 | tcohen | ashimema: http://search.cpan.org/~miyaga[…]e/ReverseProxy.pm |
| 16:15 | ashimema: you can find this line - $env->{REMOTE_ADDR} = $ip; | |
| 16:16 | it does the job | |
| 16:16 | LibraryClaire | bye AndrewIsh! |
| 16:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17318: Allow chosing fixed normalization routines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64341561dd40df3a5> / Bug 17318: Make C4::Matcher::_get_match_keys handle 'norms' param <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1669b0a08138745d1> / Bug 17318: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a=commitdiff;h=a0 |
| 16:34 | oleonard | What is the guideline for when one can mark something as closed/fixed? Is it reserved for release maintainers? |
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| 16:36 | paul_p | magnuse : are you here ? |
| 16:36 | (hello #koha) | |
| 16:37 | LibraryClaire | hi paul_p :) |
| 16:40 | paul_p | !seen magnuse |
| 16:40 | @seen magnuse | |
| 16:40 | huginn | paul_p: magnuse was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: * magnuse hopes bug 17427 shows up in a stable release soon |
| 16:42 | paul_p | meliss_lunch good lunch ! almost dinner time for me :D |
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| 17:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16907: Make sure the log will be written only if the patron has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e5bae3af65a8d08c4> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move HandleDelBorrower to ->delete <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5bdd2fe4010ad4b1> / Bug 16907: Koha::Patrons - Move DelMember to ->delete <http://git. |
| 17:16 | meliss | paul_p lunch was very good. Yes, almost dinner time for you |
| 17:16 | tcohen | hi paul_p |
| 17:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17445: Move the params check after the authentication check <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a086407ecfb1cbae1> / Bug 17445: Just some refactoring <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]499f3fab77356005a> / Bug 17445: Add 'malformed query' error response <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h |
| 17:23 | paul_p | hi tcohen. back to Argentina/home without any trouble ? |
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| 17:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 16965: Allow Koha::Objects->result_class <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]896a3af5553bf7875> / Bug 16965: [Follow-up] Adjust get_object_class <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]128e6b8d1a34c463e> / Bug 16965: search_related returns an instanciated Koha::Objects-based object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p |
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| 17:45 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425: Add the Object::MethodNotCoveredByTests exception <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82ee97685f1841d48> / Bug 17425: Add Try::Tiny dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc202e5c200f0575b> / Bug 17425: Make Koha::Object raise exceptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=7 |
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| 18:13 | oleonard | Want: https://metacpan.org/pod/Templ[…]inify::JavaScript |
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| 18:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17425 [QA Followup] - Remove superfluous tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ea8dd4e38b85aa96> |
| 18:25 | ashimema | https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojol[…]Plugin::AssetPack |
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| 18:30 | oleonard | ashimema: I like the idea of the template plugin because we embed a lot of JS right in the template when our JS depends on template variables |
| 18:37 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5670 - DBRev 16.06.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7911f7e14e77cf951> / Bug 5670: Add a confirmation message on delete <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1242b8c1d96b5384> / Bug 5670: Use the fa icon for the save button <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e92f895919f8f718 |
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| 18:58 | oleonard | I thought we had a bug report for removing Mozilla Persona support but I can't find it |
| 19:00 | bye #koha, happy weekend | |
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| 21:37 | rangi | @later tell drojf I cant delete the user, because they have made changes on bugs |
| 21:37 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 21:57 | * cait | waves |
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| 22:18 | bag | hmm looks like kyle was pushing today :) |
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