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| 05:32 | * magnuse | waves |
| 05:33 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 05:33 | @wunder marseille | |
| 05:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on October 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.77 in 1042 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:33 | magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 13.7°C (7:32 AM CEST on October 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Falling). | |
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| 06:22 | LibraryClaire | morning #koha |
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| 06:36 | drojf | mrnng |
| 06:36 | fridolin | hie there |
| 06:38 | LibraryClaire | drojf: not a fan of vowels this morning? |
| 06:38 | hi fridolin | |
| 06:38 | fridolin | hie |
| 06:39 | drojf | LibraryClaire: np |
| 06:39 | Lbrryclr | |
| 06:41 | LibraryClaire | :P |
| 06:42 | drf | bttr |
| 06:44 | drojf | that was fun, now back to work :( |
| 06:44 | LibraryClaire | ho li day |
| 06:44 | drojf | soon |
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| 06:45 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 06:46 | drojf | hi cait and gaetan_B, right in time for vowels |
| 06:46 | cait | morning |
| 06:47 | LibraryClaire | morning cait, gaetan_B :) |
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| 06:55 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:56 | alex_a | bonjour |
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| 07:20 | * magnuse | waves again |
| 07:20 | * cait | waves too |
| 07:20 | drojf | hei magnuse |
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| 08:18 | eythian | hi |
| 08:18 | @wunder ams | |
| 08:18 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 10.2°C (10:07 AM CEST on October 05, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:19 | eythian | we've lost nearly 20° in one month. How unfair. |
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| 08:31 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:31 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on October 05, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.77 in 1042 hPa (Steady). |
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| 10:06 | thd | Is there an IRC meeting now? |
| 10:09 | kidclamp | seems like noone is here? |
| 10:10 | thd | Not here or not awake. |
| 10:10 | * ashimema | is in meetings at the minute.. but is watching out the corner of his eye |
| 10:10 | manny | Hi there Koha friends |
| 10:11 | thd | Who is here for the general IRC meeting? |
| 10:11 | manny | Manny from the Philippines |
| 10:11 | kidclamp | I would join |
| 10:12 | ashimema | cait Joubu ? |
| 10:13 | Joubu | ashimema: ! |
| 10:13 | ashimema | is there meant to be a meeting.. i just happend to be watching the screen when someone asked ;) |
| 10:14 | thd | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]meeting_5_October |
| 10:15 | The page creator accidentally left the year off the wiki page title but I do not think that is the problem of insufficient attention. | |
| 10:19 | Do we have enough people here to conduct a meeting? | |
| 10:20 | Joubu | I am sorry I am not really around (off today) |
| 10:20 | cait: are you around? | |
| 10:21 | thd | If we do not have an answer then we should defer to next month. |
| 10:21 | kidclamp | I would thionk so thd |
| 10:22 | or reschedule | |
| 10:23 | thd | Joubu, ashimema, kidclamp, manny, khall would you prefer to reschedule for later in the month or defer to next month? |
| 10:24 | Joubu | What are the topics? The wiki page is blank... |
| 10:24 | thd | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_7_September_2016 |
| 10:25 | oops | |
| 10:25 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]meeting_5_October | |
| 10:25 | The page creator accidentally left the year off the wiki page title but I do not think that is the problem of insufficient attention. | |
| 10:26 | Joubu | ha no it's not |
| 10:27 | manny | <thd>I'm here to inform you guys about the KohaCon 2017 registration |
| 10:28 | thd | I note that past practise for low turnout is to defer until the next month. |
| 10:28 | kidclamp | can you send info out to the koha list manny? or is discussion needed? if so I would say reschedule for when there is a larger group |
| 10:28 | manny | we can send it to the list |
| 10:28 | thd | kidclamp++ |
| 10:29 | Joubu | manny: yes I agree, please send your info to the list :) |
| 10:29 | manny | okay i'll do that |
| 10:30 | thd | manny: I assume that you have a functioning URI for registration which you can post to the koha mailing list. |
| 10:30 | manny | yes |
| 10:30 | a Google form :) | |
| 10:32 | thd | Shall we postpone to Wed. 2 November 2016 20 UTC? |
| 10:34 | kidclamp | +1 |
| 10:34 | manny | +1 |
| 10:37 | thd | I will be happy to start to gradually have time for Koha again then after my friend's landlord withdrew the case against him. |
| 10:39 | kidclamp | sounds like good news thd |
| 10:41 | thd | In the absence of objections, I will create a wiki page for a general IRC meeting Wed. 2 November 2016 20 UTC. |
| 10:42 | I will also hope that someone will send a reminder to mailing list before next month. | |
| 10:42 | I may be busy reconfiguring my mail server at the time. | |
| 10:45 | I have far too many tasks which I had to suspend while my friends landlord was pursuing him for almost 2 years for the terrible crime of having a wonderful and large home library. | |
| 10:46 | cait | sorry, i forgot :( |
| 10:47 | too much to do, not enough time | |
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| 10:47 | thd | cait: Is that not a universal condition? |
| 10:48 | cait | yes, but i not always forget about the meetings - it's a miracle! |
| 10:48 | thd | :) |
| 10:49 | cait: In the absence of objections, I will create a wiki page for a general IRC meeting Wed. 2 November 2016 20 UTC. | |
| 10:50 | cait | yes thx |
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| 11:51 | thd | cait: Are you still here? |
| 11:52 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:52 | thd | Hello oleonard |
| 11:54 | oleonard: I had finally managed to visit Ohio but could not stay long. | |
| 11:55 | * thd | came for the IFLA subject analysis satellite conference |
| 11:58 | thd | oleonard: Ohio needs more bus service within and between cities. |
| 11:58 | oleonard | thd: I assume the same can be said about all but the largest cities in the US |
| 11:59 | thd | oleonard: I am spoilt by generally only visiting the largest ones :) |
| 12:00 | oleonard: My very long walks around Columbus between bus service were still very pleasant. | |
| 12:00 | oleonard | Columbus? So you were quite near me. 90 minutes away. |
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| 12:01 | thd | Yes, IFLA was held in Columbus. |
| 12:02 | oleonard | I think I knew that. |
| 12:03 | thd | I could not afford the IFLA price but the subject analysis satellite conference had no fee and was very informative. |
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| 12:22 | thd | Quit |
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| 13:35 | rsantellan | good morning #koha |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Hi rsantellan |
| 13:45 | rsantellan | One quick question, from where is taken the frameworkcode when editing a biblio? It always take the default one in my case. And on the the table biblio I have the frameworkcode set. |
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| 13:57 | Joubu | rsantellan: do you use the advanced editor? |
| 13:58 | see bug 16424 | |
| 13:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16424 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Advanced editor reverts records back to Default framework |
| 13:58 | rsantellan | no, the "simple" one |
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| 14:05 | Joubu | rsantellan: whatever the value of biblio.frameworkcode, the default one is always used, that's what you say? |
| 14:07 | rsantellan | Joubu: yes, the wierd part is that if I look up on the MARC tab the framework is display. If I edit it is always the default one |
| 14:09 | Joubu | and if you change the framework from the edit form? |
| 14:13 | rsantellan | If I edit the record, change the framework and edit again no framework is selected. |
| 14:14 | I see the framework on the title but is not selected on the settings | |
| 14:18 | Joubu | it remembers me bug 17206 |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17206 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Can't switch to default framework |
| 14:29 | rsantellan | Joubu: I update to 16.05.04.001 now I'm searching the item again to look if now is working |
| 14:33 | Joubu: is the same. I'm looking on the patch if it leaves something not contemplated | |
| 14:35 | Joubu | rsantellan: if you think it's a bug, please open a bug report |
| 14:38 | rsantellan | I will check if my data is wrong first and then see if is a bug or my data is the problem |
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| 14:42 | oleonard | Joubu: I'm trying to set up qa-test-tools in a new VM and I'm getting an error: Can't locate Test/Perl/Critic/Progressive.pm in @INC. But it is installed |
| 14:42 | rsantellan | Joubu: one question, where is the variable current_framework of file cat-toolbar.inc initilizated? |
| 14:44 | oleonard | rsantellan: It's initialized in the Perl script corresponding to the template into which it is included |
| 14:45 | rsantellan: So there's not one answer | |
| 14:45 | Joubu | oleonard: this is because you did not read the readme or install file ;) |
| 14:45 | you need to install it via cpan | |
| 14:45 | cpanm Test::Perl::Critic::Progressive should do the trick | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | :) |
| 14:46 | rsantellan | oleonard: I'm looking at catalogue/detail.pl and is not initialized |
| 14:46 | oleonard | Joubu: I *did* see that warning in the docs, but thought that step was required later |
| 14:46 | Joubu: My bad. | |
| 14:46 | Joubu | no worries ;) |
| 14:47 | rsantellan: indeed | |
| 14:47 | something looks wrong | |
| 14:50 | rsantellan | Joubu: if I do -> grep 'current_framework' * -nr there is only matches on cat-toolbar.inc |
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| 14:51 | Joubu | rsantellan: it works for me on master |
| 14:52 | the script detail.pl does not need to know the frameworkcode, it's a leftover from old code. | |
| 14:52 | The script knows what is the framework to use with the biblionumber | |
| 14:52 | I am able to edit a record with a frameworkcode=DVD | |
| 14:53 | and under the Settings menu I see the correctly framework selected | |
| 14:53 | correct* | |
| 14:54 | rsantellan | I'm on branch: origin/16.05.x |
| 14:54 | I will checkout master and compare | |
| 14:56 | Joubu | don't forget to restart plack |
| 14:56 | rsantellan | not using plack yet |
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| 15:16 | rsantellan | Joubu: can you paste the url of the editing DVD biblio? only the parameters to see if I'm missing the parameter entering or is something with addbiblio.pl |
| 15:17 | Joubu | you just need the biblionumber |
| 15:18 | try: select frameworkcode from biblio where biblionumber=? | |
| 15:19 | then, select count(*) from biblio_framework where frameworkcode=? | |
| 15:19 | rsantellan | the GetFrameworkCode of C4::Biblio is called and return the correct framework |
| 15:20 | but is not passing it to the settings options | |
| 15:21 | I found out that the edit url is generated like this: addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=62310&frameworkcode=&op= if I remove &frameworkcode=&op= it all works like a charm | |
| 15:23 | I have compared master with branch 16.05.X and both have the same line: <li><a id="editbiblio" href="/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl?biblionumber=[% biblionumber %]&frameworkcode=[% current_framework %]&op=">Edit record</a></li> | |
| 15:24 | and on master current framework is only defined on cat-toolbar.inc | |
| 15:34 | Joubu: I found the problem, if I change the line 713 of addbiblio.pl from: if ( $biblionumber and not( defined $frameworkcode) and $op ne 'addbiblio' ); to if ( $biblionumber and (not( defined $frameworkcode ) or $frameworkcode eq '') and $op ne 'addbiblio' ); works like a charm!! | |
| 15:34 | My problem now is that I don't know if this is a bug or this is supposed to be like this. | |
| 15:42 | Joubu | rsantellan: I think that the good fix would be to remove the frameworkcode from the url, so in the template remove this current_framework useless var |
| 15:43 | rsantellan | Joubu: op is never set to a value on edit should I remove it also? |
| 15:45 | Joubu | yes |
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| 15:52 | rsantellan | just added bug: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17405 with the corresponding file to fix it. |
| 15:52 | huginn | 04Bug 17405: normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , The creation of the url on cat-toolbar.inc is using obsolete current_framework |
| 15:53 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:54 | oleonard | Would it be appropriate to remove links to non-Koha libraries in this list https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sers/NorthAmerica ? |
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| 17:50 | CrispyBran | This might be an easy fix for a programmer. (I'm not a programmer) https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16387 |
| 17:50 | huginn | 04Bug 16387: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Incorrect loan period calculation when using decreaseLoanHighHolds feature |
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| 18:52 | rangi | morning |
| 18:53 | bag | morning rangi |
| 18:54 | LibraryClaire | hi rangi |
| 18:55 | CrispyBran | greetings rangi |
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| 19:25 | ExtraCrispyBran | Just posted: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17406 |
| 19:25 | huginn | 04Bug 17406: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Simplify pay.pl interface - pt.1 |
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| 19:59 | ExtraCrispyBran | Just posted: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17409 |
| 19:59 | huginn | 04Bug 17409: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove redundant note fields for payments on pay.pl |
| 19:59 | ExtraCrispyBran | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17408 |
| 19:59 | huginn | 04Bug 17408: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , paycollect.pl should show more information |
| 20:09 | ExtraCrispyBran | Is there an advantage of having a confirmation on a new page over a modal confirmation? |
| 20:10 | rangi | you'd want to check the modal is accesible |
| 20:11 | a lot of the "improvements" we've made lately make it much harder for a visually impaired user to use Koha, we need to fix that | |
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| 20:12 | ExtraCrispyBran | Are we keeping a list somewhere of these improvements and how they have made it harder? |
| 20:14 | rangi | screenreaders don't cope well with on the fly DOM changes, anything were people make something work only with JS is a bad change |
| 20:16 | http://wave.webaim.org | |
| 20:16 | is a good tool for finding a bunch | |
| 20:19 | we should be aiming to pass at least the WCAG 2.0 guidelines, definitely the OPAC and I contend staff client too | |
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| 20:22 | rangi | we should actually be able to build testing for it, as part of regression testing, that would be pretty neat |
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| 20:26 | Banta_L | Out of curiosity: Is there any ongoing effort to convert the staff client away from yui and to bootstrap? And if so are there guidelines for how to contribute ? (I guess this also plays into WCAG support) |
| 20:28 | CrispyBran | @rangi, thanks for the info. |
| 20:28 | huginn | CrispyBran: I suck |
| 20:28 | rangi | no worries, i think in a lot of countries, public/govt sites have to actually comply (by law) so something worth keeping in mind |
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| 20:55 | rsantellan | good night #koha! |
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| 22:20 | nnn | we wish to use RFID with our koha. we had proprietary software where RFID was implemented it used NCIP protocol. For getting RFID on on Koha do we need any middleware for circulation of books |
| 22:20 | can we not configure koha directly for issue/return through RFID | |
| 22:22 | rangi | easiest is via NCIP or SIP .. that's what those protocols are for |
| 22:23 | if you wanted to write some code that could read an rfid tag and send the barcode portion of that to a webbrowser, then you could do that too | |
| 22:24 | nnn | my query is it is necessary to have middleware for RFID |
| 22:24 | and appararantly they work on windows | |
| 22:24 | that is what local vendor mentioned | |
| 22:25 | vendor mentioned that middleware software will carry out issue/return and data will be updated on koha | |
| 22:27 | rangi | you need some software to read (and sometimes write) the tags |
| 22:27 | if the protocol for the tags follows a standard, and is well documented, in theory you could programme that yourselves | |
| 22:28 | if not, then you pretty much have to use the software they give you | |
| 22:28 | (self check machines etc obviously have this software built in) | |
| 22:28 | nnn | our earlier proprietary used high frequency tags and NCIP protocol and vendor said u will only need to buy middleware software which runs as a client on windows machine |
| 22:29 | before accepting this option I wanted to confirm | |
| 22:31 | rangi | its really down to what the RFID vendors tags and hardware support |
| 22:32 | nnn | ok |
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